Osteitis pubis

bubbleking

nafo wrote: »

im 16 and had this for the last 6 months and didnt run since but it was never as sore as the rest of the people who had well it was very sore when last played on it but ever since it was only slighty but i can stil feel it... so is mine just a less serius case of it? and im wordering will i ever be back fully been able to play cause its a young age to get this type of injury and its driving me mad and i feel like ill never be back?

what sports do you play?
have you been to see your physio?
has he given you an active rehab programme?

nafo

ye i have since it hapend i was seeing a phisio and iv been doin the exercises for the past 3 and a hafe months and iv a good bit to do everyday ....i play hurling and gealic and i was realy into the gym before it happened so id say it happened cause i was burnt out because i was training around 6 times a week ....but im more of a hurler so i surpose that would be easyer to play than football because of the kicking?

bubbleking

nafo wrote: »

ye i have since it hapend i was seeing a phisio and iv been doin the exercises for the past 3 and a hafe months and iv a good bit to do everyday ....i play hurling and gealic and i was realy into the gym before it happened so id say it happened cause i was burnt out because i was training around 6 times a week ....but im more of a hurler so i surpose that would be easyer to play than football because of the kicking?

Kicking can be a factor - my advice is just to stick with the programme it does take time but you will eventually get better

nafo

alright never realised how much i miss it till now so il def be working hard to get back cheers for comment much appreciated

UUJ_Lad

There is no other option with this type of injury but to do your core work, do your streches. I am just back in the gym, week 2 since having taken a whole 2 months off. Theres still a bit of soreness from inactivity - but other than that everything that I had seems to have cleared up, the sneezing still makes me uncomfortable, so obviously i am not totally healed up...but I can do everything I usually do in the gym - I even completed 10k on a treadmill this morning. I havent went back to full on training with the team as I want to take it slow and get confident....but my advice to anybody suffering from this is, take the break, get some good work in everyday and its totally worth it when you get to the end of the break.

nafo

when it goes does it normal stay gone do ya no or does it often effect you later?

UUJ_Lad

Honestly, I dont know, can only go from my own experience but warming up and down was something I never would have bothered with before now, I'll not be making that mistake again....If you really want to get back - get yourself to a physio and he should get you diagnosed and give you some excercises to do and help you on your way...
I would imagine when you get something like this it probably will never go away but you can prevent it with proper care and effort.

nafo

alright but i have been goin phisio and was told i have it so was just wondering if its long term which im worryed about..cheers for the advice

John32c

Can anyone recommend a good physio who has experience of Osteitis Pubis and or Abbductor issues or Symphysis Pubis in the Dublin area?

bubblyone

Physios are great but make sure it's a definite diagnosis-ideally by MRI. There are other options too to make it easier to do the physio required. A good plan would be to attend a good sports doctor and ask for advice re further management. Examples would be Dr Alan Byrne, the Mater, Cappagh, Santry...

matt86

hi guys. was just googleing osteitis pubis and came across these posts.
just thought id share my experience, it might help.
i am a 24 and was diagnosed with 'op' 7 months ago.

i play hurling and football and i work as a personal trainer. my symptoms were very similar to alot of the messages i just read through. the pain came gradually over the space of a month, getting more and more severe as the month went on. initially i and the physio thought it was a groin strain but when it wasnt improving my doc sent me for an mri and that confirmed 'op'. i
didnt rest it initially as we were in the thick of the hurling season but by mid september it had got so bad that i couldnt run atall without that annoying pain in the middle of the groin. so rest and core it was for aout 5 months and gradually the pain got less .
i returned to light running in february and things were goin well but went back hurling training 2 weeks ago and there it was again, sore as ever. i got the cortisone injection 8 days ago cos i was just fed up of the pain and within 2 days i noticed an amazing improvement. i done my first full impact training session yesterday (tackle bags and all) and i was amazed at how well it held up. i thought for sure it would be killing me afterwards or even today but amazingly its not. i am still doing regular pilates sessions and also yoga and i also find ice baths very beneficial after trainings.
hopfully that helps someone and if anyone finds out about a cure please let me know!!!!
one question someone might know an answer to is, is there an operation for this and is it successful?

John32c

Was just wondering what Clinic or Doctor gave you the Cortisone injection?
Did you have to have an MRI/Ultrasound so they could target the right area of your groin for injection to work?

nafo

matt86 wrote: »

hi guys. was just googleing osteitis pubis and came across these posts.
just thought id share my experience, it might help.
i am a 24 and was diagnosed with 'op' 7 months ago.

i play hurling and football and i work as a personal trainer. my symptoms were very similar to alot of the messages i just read through. the pain came gradually over the space of a month, getting more and more severe as the month went on. initially i and the physio thought it was a groin strain but when it wasnt improving my doc sent me for an mri and that confirmed 'op'. i
didnt rest it initially as we were in the thick of the hurling season but by mid september it had got so bad that i couldnt run atall without that annoying pain in the middle of the groin. so rest and core it was for aout 5 months and gradually the pain got less .
i returned to light running in february and things were goin well but went back hurling training 2 weeks ago and there it was again, sore as ever. i got the cortisone injection 8 days ago cos i was just fed up of the pain and within 2 days i noticed an amazing improvement. i done my first full impact training session yesterday (tackle bags and all) and i was amazed at how well it held up. i thought for sure it would be killing me afterwards or even today but amazingly its not. i am still doing regular pilates sessions and also yoga and i also find ice baths very beneficial after trainings.
hopfully that helps someone and if anyone finds out about a cure please let me know!!!!
one question someone might know an answer to is, is there an operation for this and is it successful?

hows it going matt. i got this the same time you did about in august. i see u said u got the injection and im just wondering if what i was told was right that the injection only gets rid of the pain not the problem?...i think there is also a operation you can get but i dont no much about it, are you seeing anyone at the moment like a physio ?

nafo

John32c wrote: »

Can anyone recommend a good physio who has experience of Osteitis Pubis and or Abbductor issues or Symphysis Pubis in the Dublin area?

dr eanna falvey in ssc santry. go to him and he may tell to to go to a physio called james alan and they both no there stuff and will let you no about all the options you have

trentv

I last posted in this thread a year ago when i was told i had OP, I have had to quit football since then as no matter how many weeks/months i rested and did my core work, as soon as i would go back to play the pain would come back.
I have started mountain running in the absence of football and have found it fills the void, but i do get a hankering for a game now and then.
Has anyone had their MRI and been told it was something other than OP, such as Gilmores Groin, Hernia etc?

PD23

matt86 wrote: »

hi guys. was just googleing osteitis pubis and came across these posts.
just thought id share my experience, it might help.
i am a 24 and was diagnosed with 'op' 7 months ago.

i play hurling and football and i work as a personal trainer. my symptoms were very similar to alot of the messages i just read through. the pain came gradually over the space of a month, getting more and more severe as the month went on. initially i and the physio thought it was a groin strain but when it wasnt improving my doc sent me for an mri and that confirmed 'op'. i
didnt rest it initially as we were in the thick of the hurling season but by mid september it had got so bad that i couldnt run atall without that annoying pain in the middle of the groin. so rest and core it was for aout 5 months and gradually the pain got less .
i returned to light running in february and things were goin well but went back hurling training 2 weeks ago and there it was again, sore as ever. i got the cortisone injection 8 days ago cos i was just fed up of the pain and within 2 days i noticed an amazing improvement. i done my first full impact training session yesterday (tackle bags and all) and i was amazed at how well it held up. i thought for sure it would be killing me afterwards or even today but amazingly its not. i am still doing regular pilates sessions and also yoga and i also find ice baths very beneficial after trainings.
hopfully that helps someone and if anyone finds out about a cure please let me know!!!!
one question someone might know an answer to is, is there an operation for this and is it successful?

Quick background on my problem . I am 26 years of age and play hurling and football to a good standard. I was told by a phyiso in Australia last August I was suffering from OB. I have always had problems with my RHS groin and about 3 years ago now I was operated on by that former meath footballer which fixed the problem until last Aug (tenanotamy). The pain I'm feeling is different than the original pain as it is now centralised mainly around the RHS pubic bone.

I continued to play and train until the pain was unbearable so i went to see miritis sports massage in Melbourne. They have treated alot of top class athletes and have specilised treatment for OP refer to there website. The first visit was a sucess they massaged the area for about an hour which was very painful but worth it. I was training the next day pain free I couldnt beleive it. The problem reoccured the start of this year so I returned to MM but my second visit did not have the same results as the first.

I have been able to train and play since Jan but like others the next day my groin has been very sore but i dont mind this once I can get through a match and training. I am now returning to Ireland with the ongoing problem as its in the middle of the hurling/gaelic season i am looking for a quick fix. I have never had a cortisone injection for any injury but at this stage I am willing to try it. I know it is quick fix but if it gets me through the season im happy.

So if anyone has a doctor they can recommend in the dublin area who gives cortisone shots can they please PM me.

Cheers

nafo

does anyone no of someone who had this condition and made a full recovery from it?

kingofthehills

Hi all,

I'm a 30 year gaelic footballer and basketballer. It happened for me around 4 months ago playing basketball a pain in the upper end of the adductor. I kept playing for a week or 2 after but was getting pain in lower region of my Abdomen. Football began in Feb and i was still getting a kniggling pain in the left upper groin area. I went to a physio and was told to rest for 3 weeks and continue with the standard strengthing exercises for a groin strain. In the third week i was feeling good and decided to play a football match but at the end of game i pulled the adductor i a quick burst of pace and couldnt walk for a day after. Since then i have been getting treatment for my groin strain and my pubic bone is very tender and hurts after exercise. It seems my pubic bone is the area that is always sore after any training or exercise. Had a mri last week and had a doc in waterford to oversee the results. He said its a strain to the adductor and gave me new exercises to do for the next 6 weeks. I began them and my abdomen is constantly sore and there is still a pinch in groin injury area still after the 5 weeks since the injury. He said if the pubic bone is still giving problems he will give me the cortisone injection in 2 weeks. i asked him about osteitis pubis and he said that doctors/specialists use these words when they don't know whats wrong with you. Still at the strenghtening exerices for the adductor can't do more than 10 sit ups without having pain in the obdomen still but will keep it up till i am called again next week(2 weeks later). I have to get the cortisone injection at this stage pain not easing off. Would love to hear whats wrong and why the pain in the pubic bone instead of groin area.. its the most frustrating injury i ever had and believe me i had a few injuries over the years

matt86

yea as far as i am aware the injection is given in an attempt to relieve the pain and bring down the inflammation around the joint. doesnt stop it from coming back once you start running on it again though. since i last wrote on the blog i have been taking full part in training and playing matches. i have some pain after wards but ice baths really seem to help. i am getting regular physio on my groin, glutes etc and that helps too,cant forget the bit of yoga.
i still dont know about an operation , i have been askin around and noone seems to know. so if ya hear of anythin let me know

thirdmantackle

Paul O'Connell apparently has this

kingofthehills

Did anyone hear or have a prolotherapy injection instead? Is it more advanced than the cortisone injection does it work? Went on treadmill last night for 20 mins was feeling good with no kniggling pain so felt fine after iced and stretched lightly, however up this morning pain in pubic bone/abdomen area. This is really killing me man no where to turn...

bubblyone

kingofthehills wrote: »

Did anyone hear or have a prolotherapy injection instead? Is it more advanced than the cortisone injection does it work? Went on treadmill last night for 20 mins was feeling good with no kniggling pain so felt fine after iced and stretched lightly, however up this morning pain in pubic bone/abdomen area. This is really killing me man no where to turn...

Haven't heard of anyone doing prolotherapy. It seems to have some effectiveness in conditions like tennis elbow and Achilles tendinopathy...likely because it kind of scars down tiny blood vessels that are recruited when there is inflammation. A tear is a different process. The steroid injection is only meant to ease inflammation so that you can do the physio required to get back to normal. It can take time to settle and the physio itself is time consuming and dull but worth it eventually. If you don't think you're progressing at all you could try seeing a sports specialist. Cappagh hospital and Santry would have lots of experience.

cowen4life

hi guys, i too have osteitis pubis...what a horrible injury!! Ive had it for over 4 months now and ive had an mri scan. Ive just started taking arcoxia which is a powerful painkiller/anti inflammatory. I'l be finished the course in 10 days so i'l let ye know then if ive found the miracle cure!!! Im not feeling overly confident however....

John32c

yeh a horrible injury and seems so hard to diagnose..I have had a groin problem since november was told firstly it was probably a UTI and or epidymitus then I was told it was prob Abbuctor tendenitis. I have had to take about 5 different antibiotics-no result..physio about 6 sessions hasnt helped much...Bone scan clear...MRI inconclusive...Im now on the cortisone injection path heres hoping...!!!

Paulmee

Hi,
I would just like to give an update to my progress.
I have had problems with my groin, swelling of the pubic bone/symphasis since last June. The advice of my physio had been rest. :-(
So, I went for an MRI a few months ago, and was due to go for the injection. I had to cancel it, I felt unwell the day of the injection.
So I was referred to Dr Falvey in SSC for an appointment a month ago. He was excellent. He gave me three stretches to do, wall squats, lunges, and leg exercises, as well as recommending the use of a cross trainer. I have being doing this programme for the last month, and I feel like(at last!!) there is an improvement. I will do this for 8 weeks, while attending another physio to monitor my progress.
Thats my 2c...

kingofthehills

Got a referral to a doc using prolotherapy. Had an injection into my groin last tue using the prolotherapy treatment and i am feeling a unbelievable improvement already. I have another the last injection tomorrow and the doc said i should be ok a week after just in time for championship. I must just rest and do light stretching at moment. I believe this is the way forward fuk all them anti inflammatories and steroid injections the injury will reappear again believe me. This process allows your own body repair itself so strengthening it for the future. I will be back training next Tuesday night can't wait..:D:D:D:D

cowen4life

Kingofthehill...just wondering who done the prolotherapy for you? I read up about it there and it definately sounds like the way to go!!

kingofthehills

Sorry mate no can do!!!

amg-slurp

Anyone whose suffering from this, one man id advise seeing is Eanna Falvey in SSC, in santry.

As he said himself, whilst touching my groin.."its my speciality"!
He knows his stuff (works with the irish rugby team too), is sound, and will get you sorted asap.

After getting my MRI with SSC, i was referred to him and then when he had checked me out he sent me for an injection, again in SSC. It done the trick, a course of pilates, lots of stretching when doing sports and resting when i need to and ive been fine since.
Only thing that bothers me lately is some tightness in hip flexors, which i think is what caused the OP in the first place, but its a matter of being careful and smart with your training and stretching etc etc.

As regards sex and so on, my hip flexors are tight so some thrusting movements do cause some discomfort!! :o

Let her go on top sure, problem solved!

nafo

amg-slurp wrote: »

Anyone whose suffering from this, one man id advise seeing is Eanna Falvey in SSC, in santry.

As he said himself, whilst touching my groin.."its my speciality"!
He knows his stuff (works with the irish rugby team too), is sound, and will get you sorted asap.

After getting my MRI with SSC, i was referred to him and then when he had checked me out he sent me for an injection, again in SSC. It done the trick, a course of pilates, lots of stretching when doing sports and resting when i need to and ive been fine since.
Only thing that bothers me lately is some tightness in hip flexors, which i think is what caused the OP in the first place, but its a matter of being careful and smart with your training and stretching etc etc.

As regards sex and so on, my hip flexors are tight so some thrusting movements do cause some discomfort!! :o

Let her go on top sure, problem solved!

scems like iv a very similar problem myself with the op and hip tightness and i went to dr falvey and he gave me a few stretches and told me to go to this other phisio in ssc , they all no there stuff up there ,hopefully they will get me fixed quick because its been 8 months out so far and its driving me mad.
aw ye never thought of her going on top good sugestion cheers! ha