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Left 4 Dead

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    #932
    Stephen
    Registered Users Posts: 18,484 ✭✭✭✭Stephen


    Yeah, they fixed it about a week ago. Apparently Eircom's network had something of a bottleneck at Portlaoise which got ugpraded.


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    #933
    Maximilian
    Legal Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 5,400 Mod ✭✭✭✭Maximilian


    Stephen wrote: »
    /shakes fist at DoW traitors

    JOIN US


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    #934
    TerrorFirmer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    I've actually been playing a lot of World at War lately, have to say I'm not really interested in DOW2 despite having well over a thousand games clocked on DOW/Winter Assault online....

    Will probably try play a bit of L4D again in the next while, tried playing a game with a few randomers last night and its just ****. Any extra news on the new content?


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    #935
    SeantheMan
    Registered Users Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭SeantheMan


    New content still not out :(

    Also..for the first time today since patch....teams got switched after a round...i thought this bug was fixed :o:(:(


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    #936
    Sephiroth_dude
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 80,103 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    Whats the single player like?


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    #937
    Stephen
    Registered Users Posts: 18,484 ✭✭✭✭Stephen


    Not great, its just you vs bots. This is really a multiplayer only game, the single player experience is only really useful for learning how it works.


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    #938
    Sephiroth_dude
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 80,103 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    hmm,the reason I asked is because my net connection is fairly dodgey,i.e it disconnects me every so often :-/.


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    #939
    Fanny Cradock
    Registered Users Posts: 10,245 ✭✭✭✭Fanny Cradock


    I don't think it would be worth a purchase simply for single player. There is maybe 10 hrs playtime in single player.


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    #940
    CutzEr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 837 ✭✭✭CutzEr


    So would it be fairly useless on midband speeds 1mb/ps - 4mb/ps ??


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    #941
    Stephen
    Registered Users Posts: 18,484 ✭✭✭✭Stephen


    No it'd be fine, assuming you're not on a 3G connection or something. What you need is low ping rather than high download speeds.


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    #942
    Sephiroth_dude
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 80,103 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    wont be getting this anytime soon my rig is after dieing on me :mad:


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    #943
    witnessmenow
    Registered Users Posts: 7,030 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    CutzEr wrote: »
    So would it be fairly useless on midband speeds 1mb/ps - 4mb/ps ??

    I mostly play it on 1mb eircom BB over the wireless and its playable (far from perfect for obvious reasons but its mostly pretty good)


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    #944
    SeantheMan
    Registered Users Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭SeantheMan


    witnessmenow wrote: »
    I mostly play it on 1mb eircom BB over the wireless and its playable (far from perfect for obvious reasons but its mostly pretty good)

    I remember when eircom BB was first released, think it was the backend of 2004 .....that it was 512kbps , and that was fine for online gaming.

    Cant see 1-4mb being a problem


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    #945
    Illkillya
    Registered Users Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭Illkillya


    SeantheMan wrote: »
    I remember when eircom BB was first released, think it was the backend of 2004 .....that it was 512kbps , and that was fine for online gaming.

    Cant see 1-4mb being a problem

    It's the upload that is the problem... 128k upload (on the 1Mb account) will lag you out in some games (especially when used with voice comms). L4d is fine for me though on it.


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    #946
    Fnz
    Registered Users Posts: 2,848 ✭✭✭Fnz


    Illkillya wrote: »
    It's the upload that is the problem... 128k upload (on the 1Mb account) will lag you out in some games (especially when used with voice comms).

    Is that true? Experienced my first serious lag when 2 people were playing on the one connection.

    I should have a 5 Mb download and (supposedly) 384 Kb upload speed. Though speedtest.net returns this result:

    404440940.png

    ... would the upload speed be the problem or could it be that I have had interleaving removed from my line?


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    #947
    Stephen
    Registered Users Posts: 18,484 ✭✭✭✭Stephen


    ^^ That's pretty much bang on for the speeds you quoted. You have plenty of upstream bandwidth for L4D. We you playing a non-dedicated server by any chance? That always results in horrendous lag.


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    #948
    Fanny Cradock
    Registered Users Posts: 10,245 ✭✭✭✭Fanny Cradock


    Fnz wrote: »

    404440940.png

    ... would the upload speed be the problem or could it be that I have had interleaving removed from my line?

    404532268.png

    My upload speed is almost identical to yours and I experience no lag (though I don't use VOIP). You should be fine.


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    #949
    Fnz
    Registered Users Posts: 2,848 ✭✭✭Fnz


    Stephen wrote: »
    ^^ That's pretty much bang on for the speeds you quoted.

    You reckon? Thought the upload was a bit slow, even accounting for the quoted figure - actual speed droop. :D
    Stephen wrote: »
    You have plenty of upstream bandwidth for L4D. We you playing a non-dedicated server by any chance? That always results in horrendous lag.

    I thought 300 kb would be grand for 2 people too - perhaps the problem was a once (twice) off. We were using the best available server in the server browser - latency was probably < 90.


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    #950
    Fnz
    Registered Users Posts: 2,848 ✭✭✭Fnz


    Fanny Cradock wrote: »
    My upload speed is almost identical to yours and I experience no lag (though I don't use VOIP). You should be fine.

    Only thing I can think of is that I asked for interleaving to be removed from the line to reduce my latency. I'll test 2 players a bit more before having it re-enabled. I use the in-game voice talk, aright, but player 2 didn't.


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    #951
    Basq
    Registered Users Posts: 43,835 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    For the 360 owners... finally a price-drop!

    Just bought it there!


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    #952
    koneko
    Registered Users Posts: 10,304 ✭✭✭✭koneko


    http://www.left4dead411.com/news/2009/02/new-game-mode/

    Not much information in it, I'm afraid :/


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    #953
    OK-Cancel-Apply
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,528 ✭✭✭OK-Cancel-Apply


    I keep getting kicked from servers for no apparent reason. My score would be about the same as the others, and I'd be playing normally, and then suddenly, "Kicked". One time a guy angrily said, "F**k you, Boomer" right before kicking me.

    Anyone else experience this?


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    #954
    Stephen
    Registered Users Posts: 18,484 ✭✭✭✭Stephen


    Sounds like you were playing on a server adminned by a twat.


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    #955
    OK-Cancel-Apply
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,528 ✭✭✭OK-Cancel-Apply


    Stephen wrote: »
    Sounds like you were playing on a server adminned by a twat.

    Yeah but there must be SOME reason. Is any reason that new(ish) people to the game might get kicked? Is there some unwritten rule that I'm not following? I mean...it's not rocket science!


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    #956
    Retr0gamer
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    OK-Cancel-Apply wrote: »
    Yeah but there must be SOME reason. Is any reason that new(ish) people to the game might get kicked? Is there some unwritten rule that I'm not following? I mean...it's not rocket science!

    Unwritten rule number 1: Never doubt how retarded the general public can be.
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    #957
    Azza
    Moderators Posts: 5,554 ✭✭✭Azza


    Update news.

    http://www.edge-online.com/news/paid-left-4-dead-content-spring

    Well if Valve want to kill this game stone dead this if true is the way to go about it.


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    #958
    koneko
    Registered Users Posts: 10,304 ✭✭✭✭koneko


    On that page:

    "Update: Due to a miscommunication, we had updated the original piece saying that PC and Xbox 360 Survival Packs would be paid. However, Valve again contacted Edge to say that it hasn't ruled out the possibility of the price being "$0.00." Sorry for any confusion."


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    #959
    OctavarIan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭OctavarIan


    Oh Valve, your release date game has actually become kind of cute.

    I really hope Survival isn't what I think it is. That being, survive against the waves of zombies for as long as you can...

    I hope it's an uber realistic single player mode. Just you against the zombie horde, with no crosshair, a depletable flashlight a la AVP2, scarce ammo... ah yeah


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    #960
    Maximilian
    Legal Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 5,400 Mod ✭✭✭✭Maximilian


    I doubt Valve will charge on the PC. There will be all kinds of rage if they do.


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    #961
    L31mr0d
    Registered Users Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭L31mr0d


    OctavarIan wrote: »
    I really hope Survival isn't what I think it is. That being, survive against the waves of zombies for as long as you can...

    doesn't the game already have a survival mode? i.e. just play the finale of any campaign for as long as possible :D

    They'd better not charge for it though. Even if they do, once the free SDK is released somebody will make a free version of it.


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