i got caught driving without a full license driver wat will happen to me???

darcyd1991

hi!im 17!i actually got pulled over for dangurous driving den wen asked to produce my license i only had a provisional!!
it wasnt too dangerous i just pulled out off a junction too fast and an under cover car pulled me over!!i have never been in trouble with the police be4 either nd i had no other passengers in my car!!! wat do ppl tink dey will do 2 mii!!im pretty worried about it?:(

Henry Ford III

Prosecution and fine most likely. €1000 if you had L plates displayed and €2000 if you didn't I think.

darcyd1991

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Prosecution and fine most likely. €1000 if you had L plates displayed and €2000 if you didn't I think.

seriously dat bad?

vibe666

i'm gonna grab me some popcorn and wait for the boards.ie lawmen to arrive.

bullpost

Not necessarily AFAIK. Friend of mine got pulled in similar circumstances lately and let off with warning.

mcwhirter

darcyd1991 wrote: »

hi!im 17!i actually got pulled over for dangurous driving den wen asked to produce my license i only had a provisional!!
it wasnt too dangerous i just pulled out off a junction too fast and an under cover car pulled me over!!i have never been in trouble with the police be4 either nd i had no other passengers in my car!!! wat do ppl tink dey will do 2 mii!!im pretty worried about it?:(

50 whacks with a large studded stick should do the trick yer bleeding prov driver

macnab

darcyd1991 wrote: »

seriously dat bad?

and probably time if you use text speak in court.:cool:

andrewh5

Good! Perhaps now you will realise that the law is there to be obeyed not ignored.

gyppo

macnab wrote: »

and probably time if you use text speak in court.:cool:

Might not be a bad thing - a bit of time to brush up on the english language.

L1011

I don't know what scares me more, people born in the 1990s driving or people who typ lyk dis passing the theory test!

Henry Ford III

darcyd1991 wrote: »

seriously dat bad?

Ya, dat bad

DaveyGem

Worst Case Scenario-1000/2000 euro fine

Best Case Scenario- Nothing will happen.


Most likely, you'll get a warning at most. Depends really on the Guard that pulled ye. Was he sound about it or did he slap on a real business like tone when he saw your licence.



P.s your a very bold boy for driving unaccompanied, in my day we never did such things, I hate prov drivers etc etc yada yada yada

caesar

I know a guy who go a two week sentence in the English Grammer school in Tullamore........I'll grab my coat.

Seriously though I've no idea, amazingly my mother and sister passed their respective driving tests before the laws were enforced. Some of my friends are probably on provisionals or permits but I never asked them about it.

Im sure some people got examples made of them.

@vibe666
Can I have some popcorn?

bladebrew

i doubt there going to prosecute you for dangerous driving,but the driving unaccompanied on a provisional licence is up to a 1000euro fine,may have pissed off the gardai if they saw a 17 year old booting out of a junction with a car full of passengers!!!

Penn

Judge: How do you plead?
OP: wat!!i neva did nuffin!!
Judge: You broke several laws
OP: dat bad?
Judge: dat very bad!!

ArthurGuinness

A friend of a friend of mine recently got pulled inwaterford and she got an on the spot 1000 euro fine and she still has to appear in court. As far as i know

superjosh9

Why can't you write normally? You're 17, not 12. The other posters are right to make fun of you.

caesar

superjosh9 wrote: »

Why can't you write normally? You're 17, not 12. The other posters are right to make fun of you.

Its at times like this that I think being an eighties baby is so much better

jhegarty

ArthurGuinness wrote: »

A friend of a friend of mine recently got pulled inwaterford and she got an on the spot 1000 euro fine and she still has to appear in court. As far as i know

why do these posts always end with "as far as i know".....

Graham_B18C

andrewh5 wrote: »

Good! Perhaps now you will realise that the law is there to be obeyed not ignored.

He came here for advice, not a lecture. His Mother probably didn't even say that to him. I drove on a prov licence for 10 months, and i'm sure pleanty of others did, but that was about two years ago, was caught twice and just got a warning both times and one of the Guards was an ass, he took my Girlfriends name and address too. Thay say its gotten stricter since that law came in but i haven't heard any bad stories yet.

Wit a bi o luk yal ger way wi it!

Alanstrainor

jhegarty wrote: »

who do these posts always end with "as far as i know".....

My aunty's, uncle's, brother's, son's, dog's, nephew's owner, got a fine too afaik.

Robbo

Alanstrainor wrote: »

My aunty's, uncle's, brother's, son's, dog's, nephew's owner, got a fine too afaik.

Yeah but they all got off because the Garda's hat was the wrong size.

OP, await a summons in the post; if it arrives, go to a solicitor and seek proper legal advice.

pyramuid man

I would presume that as you got pulled for dangerous driving you will get the fine if you dont get charged for dangerous driving.

How dangerous was it?

studiorat

Doubt if the fine will be as high as €1,000. Was in court the other day, they were dishing €1,000 fines for having no licence or insurance etc. €300 I'd reckon if it doesn't get struck out. Best thing to do is get your test quickly, if you can produce a full licence on the day you'll be grand.

Steve

Worst case would be a fine and ban for both the dangerous and unaccompanied driving. Best case, a bolloking from the judge and a donation to the poor box.

Dangerous driving is a court appearance afaik.

Write down every detail you can remember about what happened - road contitions, weather, time, what you did, what the guard said...anything. Your memory of the event will be shaky in 8 months time if it goes to court and you can bet the guard recorded every detail he needs to prosecute.

Wait and see what comes in the post and get a solicitor if it's a summons.

brian plank

darcyd1991 wrote: »

seriously dat bad?

no. you'll more than likely just get locked up for a while. in a cell with some huge black dude called buba whos a raving looney and a screeming homo!!

COME ERE BOY!!

ExoduS 18.11

andrewh5 wrote: »

Good! Perhaps now you will realise that the law is there to be obeyed not ignored.

Next time you do 121 km/h on the motorway i'll make sure to call the guards. Off the high horse please! This so called law is at the discretion of the guards. I.e depending on what guard you get, determines your punishment.

Graham_B18C

ExoduS 18.11 wrote: »

Next time you do 121 km/h on the motorway i'll make sure to call the guards. Off the high horse please! This so called law is at the discretion of the guards. I.e depending on what guard you get, determines your punishment.

+1 Can't stand that crap!

studiorat

Originally Posted by andrewh5

Good! Perhaps now you will realise that the law is there to be obeyed not ignored.

Actually that's not why the law is there, but if that's what you want to believe off you go...

jimmycrackcorm

A guy I know landed in court for the same offense and same scenario - boy racer, provisional, pulling from the junction too fast, with an undercover car behind. He had the case dismissed however when his solicitor tore into the Garda asking him how he measured the speed of take off etc. The judge got annoyed with the Garda for bringing the case without proper evidence other than an opinion. A good solicitor will knock off the DD charge.

That was before the accompanied driver changes so I reckon a fine is still on the cards.

drunkymonkey

jhegarty wrote: »

why do these posts always end with "as far as i know".....

to cover their asS in case they're wrong, we all do it! :rolleyes:

Steve

ExoduS 18.11 wrote: »

This so called law is at the discretion of the guards. I.e depending on what guard you get, determines your punishment.

eh, no.

It depends on the Judge and what mood they're in that day. the Guard has no say in the punishment.

Resi12

Jesus lads will ye cop on leave the poor boy or girl alone, well first off what did the guard say?

Surely the guard told you whether or not she/he would follow it up or not? Well imo guards should spend more time pulling over scum than innocent drivers.

ExoduS 18.11

My point was that the guard has the power to give a slap on the wrist or summons? or fine ? you dont see many judges pulling over cars do you?

ExoduS 18.11

Resi12 wrote: »

Well imo guards should spend more time pulling over scum than innocent drivers.

Agreed but, innocent would incinuate that the driver was in no way in the wrong! although i dont see the accompanied driver being a problem, dangerous driving is a hazard to other motorists as well as her/himself!

Resi12

ExoduS 18.11 wrote: »

Agreed but, innocent would incinuate that the driver was in no way in the wrong! although i dont see the accompanied driver being a problem, dangerous driving is a hazard to other motorists as well as her/himself!

I no, I never quite got what a person with no control of the car and can be as young as the provisional driver can do to actually help in case something happened..

While I do see it can help in other ways I think its complete rubbish.

Keith186

Alanstrainor wrote: »

My aunty's, uncle's, brother's, son's, dog's, nephew's owner, got a fine too afaik.

So it was your ma?


I'd say you'll get a fine €300/€500 possibly up to a grand. If you were ok to the garda he might do nothing and just let it go etc. If he's in an unmarked I'm sure he's probably got bigger fish to fry and couldn't be bothered with paperwork.

'Slow down and wise up'

Steve

ExoduS 18.11 wrote: »

My point was that the guard has the power to give a slap on the wrist or summons? or fine ? you dont see many judges pulling over cars do you?

True but a guard can also be reprimanded for failing to act.
It depends on the situation and how 'dangerous' it was - yes, they have discretion but it has limits.

sdanseo

darcyd1991 wrote: »

hi!im 17!i actually got pulled over for dangurous driving den wen asked to produce my license i only had a provisional!!
it wasnt too dangerous i just pulled out off a junction too fast and an under cover car pulled me over!!i have never been in trouble with the police be4 either nd i had no other passengers in my car!!! wat do ppl tink dey will do 2 mii!!im pretty worried about it?:(

Learn to speak English, firstly.

Secondly, as someone who was put off the road in an attempt to abide by this new law in June, until I passed the test, it makes my blood boil to see people flouting what is possibly the best-known and clearest-cut law in the book and expecting to get away with it in true Irish fashion.

If you're prosecuted for dangerous driving, you could be looking at nasty things like custodial sentences and fines, but I'd say from the way you attempted to describe what happened that the Garda more than likely won't charge you with it.

As others have said, €1-2k seems to be the going rate in court for driving unaccompanied.

Moral of the story = stop driving (edit: unaccompanied that is)and pay more attention to your English classes. You have absolutely no excuse whatsoever. Twat (Edit: bit harsh, apols).

Fighting Irish

bullpost wrote: »

Not necessarily AFAIK. Friend of mine got pulled in similar circumstances lately and let off with warning.

:rolleyes: typical bull****

studiorat

sdonn_1 wrote: »

Learn to speak English, firstly.

Secondly, as someone who was put off the road in an attempt to abide by this new law in June, until I passed the test, it makes my blood boil to see people flouting what is possibly the best-known and clearest-cut law in the book and expecting to get away with it in true Irish fashion.

If you're prosecuted for dangerous driving, you could be looking at nasty things like custodial sentences and fines, but I'd say from the way you attempted to describe what happened that the Garda more than likely won't charge you with it.

As others have said, €1-2k seems to be the going rate in court for driving unaccompanied.

Moral of the story = stop driving and pay more attention to your English classes. You have absolutely no excuse whatsoever. Twat.

:eek:

Twat? What's your problem? Why don't you just go do your test and stop whining because your mother took the car off you...

ExoduS 18.11

sdonn_1 wrote: »

Moral of the story = stop driving and pay more attention to your English classes. You have absolutely no excuse whatsoever. Twat.

If she has problems with english, you certainly have problems with maths. Stop driving isnt the key, driving more carefully is. Not gonna rant on about how the whole "learning to drive" system here needs to be reformed, but maybe a few driving lessons is what she needs! P.s. which law are you referring to, dangerous driving or unaccompanied driving??

sdanseo

ExoduS 18.11 wrote: »

If she has problems with english, you certainly have problems with maths. Stop driving isnt the key, driving more carefully is. Not gonna rant on about how the whole "learning to drive" system here needs to be reformed, but maybe a few driving lessons is what she needs! P.s. which law are you referring to, dangerous driving or unaccompanied driving??

Sorry. That should have read "stop driving unaccompanied".

I have a particular bee in my bonnet about this so I'll retract the word twat. Bit harsh, accepted. For the record, I have a full licence. But I played by the rules to get it (after 30th June that is) and it's the people who go on doing it that annoy me.

studiorat

sdonn_1 wrote: »

Learn to speak English, firstly.

Secondly, as someone who was put off the road in an attempt to abide by this new law in June, until I passed the test, it makes my blood boil to see people flouting what is possibly the best-known and clearest-cut law in the book and expecting to get away with it in true Irish fashion.

If you're prosecuted for dangerous driving, you could be looking at nasty things like custodial sentences and fines, but I'd say from the way you attempted to describe what happened that the Garda more than likely won't charge you with it.

As others have said, €1-2k seems to be the going rate in court for driving unaccompanied.

Moral of the story = stop driving and pay more attention to your English classes. You have absolutely no excuse whatsoever. Twat.

:eek:

Twat? What's your problem? Did your mother stop you driving?
Not going to be near €1,000. Not in Dublin anyway.

macroman

OP, it's people like you who f**k it up for the rest of us provisional drivers. Like many others I pay for professional tuition, and I'd love to be able to drive unaccompanied - but the fact of the matter is I can't as there is a law preventing it . I'm sure the Guards reason for pulling you over was justifiable and could stand up in court and if it does I hope that they prosecute you to the full extent of the law.

I'm not sure how you thought you could get away with it, and how you think that it's acceptable to drive unaccompanied and dangerously.

Running Bing

darcyd1991 wrote: »

hi!im 17!i actually got pulled over for dangurous driving den wen asked to produce my license i only had a provisional!!
it wasnt too dangerous i just pulled out off a junction too fast and an under cover car pulled me over!!i have never been in trouble with the police be4 either nd i had no other passengers in my car!!! wat do ppl tink dey will do 2 mii!!im pretty worried about it?:(

First of all, learn English. It will be a massive help throughout this whole thing.


Secondly be grateful that your careless driving did not result in a collision with another car as the driver you collided with would've been right up the creek due to your selfishness and carelessness.

sdanseo

studiorat wrote: »

:eek:

Twat? What's your problem? Why don't you just go do your test and stop whining because your mother took the car off you...

studiorat wrote: »

:eek:

Twat? What's your problem? Did your mother stop you driving?
Not going to be near €1,000. Not in Dublin anyway.

Was there a need for double posts? And no, I chose to stop driving because 1) There was a law that was actually being enforced against it and
2) It carries a hefty fine

'nuff said.

ExoduS 18.11

sdonn_1 wrote: »

Sorry. That should have read "stop driving unaccompanied".

I have a particular bee in my bonnet about this so I'll retract the word twat. Bit harsh, accepted. For the record, I have a full licence. But I played by the rules to get it (after 30th June that is) and it's the people who go on doing it that annoy me.

I drove without a driver for 3 months. Do i annoy you? Considering i could write pages of people who cut me off, drove an inch from my bumper, undertook me etc etc. Bad driving is all around us, young and old. Full licence and provo alike! P.s. in that 3 month bracket i did not have a scrath on my car and its still in that shape now !

ExoduS 18.11

Babybing wrote: »

First of all, learn English. It will be a massive help throughout this whole thing.


Secondly be grateful that your careless driving did not result in a collision with another car as the driver you collided with would've been right up the creek due to your selfishness and carelessness.

And your advice would be................ Can we move on from the bad english please!

sdanseo

ExoduS 18.11 wrote: »

I drove without a driver for 3 months. Do i annoy you? Considering i could write pages of people who cut me off, drove an inch from my bumper, undertook me etc etc. Bad driving is all around us, young and old. Full licence and provo alike! P.s. in that 3 month bracket i did not have a scrath on my car and its still in that shape now !

You'd annoy me if you drive after June yes...because though it was against the law beofre then there was no enforcement and the accepted status quo was that driving was fine. It's people who push too far that are the problem. I'm shocked people had the nerve to complain when the law started being enforced.

Re. bad drivers - agreed. But there's a difference between a bad driver with a full licence and a bad driver who's also flouting the law.

seanybiker

poor kid looking for advice and some fools abusing him/her. Just answer the question or keep quiet. Hopefully you get off with it .