The following phones can be turned into bug devices and controlled by remote access

Run_to_da_hills

"Phone Dead" is a limited software available to the sheeple for $900 It can assigned to just one registered phone and end user. The software must be loaded into the phone first before it can be used as a bug device.

It would be marketed as a means to monitor the likes of your kids on the hop from school or your missus doing the dirt.

You can access the phone remotely by switching on the microphone and listening to ALL conversations even though the phone has been switched off by the owner. :eek:

The following mobile phones will work with this version of Phone Dead and I am sure there are several other versions of similar software on the market that could activate other phones.

Lenovo P930/ Motorizr Z8/ Nokia N95/ N93i/ N93/ N92/ N91/ N90/ N80/ N77/ N76/ N75/ N73/ N72/ N71/ N70/ E90/ E70/ E65/ E62/ E61i/ E61/ E60/ E50/ 7610/ 6682/ 6681/ 6680/ 6670/ 6630/ 6620/ 6600/ 6290/ 6260/ 6120/ 6110/ 5700/ 5500/ 3250/ 3230/ Panasonic X800/ Samsung SGH-D730/ Samsung SGH-D720/ Samsung SGH-i520

http://www.davidsteele.com/Spy-Phone-Software-Phone-Dead-p/sps-pd.htm

How can we tell if the authorities can access our phones without this special software installed? Are the manufacturers hiding something?

No doubt the authorities have the full version which can check your address books, calls log, drafted text messages, stored pictures, illegal mp3 collection, etc. :eek:

This all comes into line with the UK authorities proposal to have all mobile phones eventually registered and will also be an effective tool of the NWO.

meglome

I mean it's so difficult to bug people or use directional microphones. This way they need to actually get your phone and install it.

Run_to_da_hills

meglome wrote: »

I mean it's so difficult to bug people or use directional microphones. This way they need to actually get your phone and install it.

Not necessarily, the software could be forwarded to the target phone as a trojian unknown to the owner and then subsequently activated. All those phones listed are basically micro computers and can be hacked just like any normal PC.

The technique is called a "roving bug," and was approved by top U.S. Department of Justice officials for use against members of the New York Mafia crime family who were wary of conventional surveillance techniques such as tailing a suspect or wiretapping him.

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1035_22-150467.html

toiletduck

RTDH was right!!! :eek: :pac:

This patent sets out the vision for a "personal area network" that uses RFID chips in clothes, cars, houses and pretty much everything else to 'talk' to one another and connect to the internet.

http://content.zdnet.com/2346-9595_22-245173-7.html

Run_to_da_hills

toiletduck wrote: »

RTDH was right!!! :eek: :pac:



http://content.zdnet.com/2346-9595_22-245173-7.html

Wireless Personal Area Networking "WPAN" is another but very much related topic.

You get into your car, immediately your mobile phone, car stereo and satnav is link up together via the blue tooth. The authorities can then emit a roving bug signal to your registered mobile and find out through your bluetooth satnav your intended destination.

They will also know the exact speed you are doing your intended route and the estimate time of arrival.

They can use cell site analysis on your mobile phone to track your position if they wanted to apprehend you en route.

I wouldn't be too worried about any of this stuff now but maybe in a few years time.

Halfdog

what if you decide to switch off your bluetooth on all your gadgets can they still track you?

Run_to_da_hills

Halfdog wrote: »

what if you decide to switch off your bluetooth on all your gadgets can they still track you?

If you decide to disgard your gadgets and mobile phone on your trip you will be tracked on congestion charge / traffic ANPR cams, e-tags and Multi-camera system (MCS) Gatsos.

There will be no escape from the all seeing eye of Big Brother in the NWO. :eek:

Gareth37

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

You can access the phone remotely by switching on the microphone and listening to ALL conversations even though the phone has been switched off by the owner. :eek:

Yes, this is what happened me. Millions of phones in the UK are bugged but a huge number in ireland. You don't need access the phone, the phone is accessed remotely. The IMEI number is all they need or whatever its called. The phone can be switched off.

Sofa_King Good

Gareth37 wrote: »

Yes, this is what happened me. Millions of phones in the UK are bugged but a huge number in ireland. You don't need access the phone, the phone is accessed remotely. The IMEI number is all they need or whatever its called. The phone can be switched off.

Sure your battery just didn't die?

Run_to_da_hills

Gareth37 wrote: »

Yes, this is what happened me. Millions of phones in the UK are bugged but a huge number in ireland. You don't need access the phone, the phone is accessed remotely. The IMEI number is all they need or whatever its called. The phone can be switched off.

The system when fully up and running will work on seeking out random buzz words and tip off information on suspects.

If obvious words Garda, M15, Police, CCTV, Heathrow, Semtex, Potassium Nitrate, Airport, child, bank, escape, porn etc were picked up the details would automatically register and show up on monitoring screens. It would be up to the authorities monitoring the system to discern whether it is important enough to activate live monitoring and follow it up. Anyone who has been convicted in the past can expect to be randomly monitered on a regular basis.

The "Buzz" word system has been used for checking text and email messages by M15 and the FBI for years however it has been very difficult to assign names and faces on IP and IMEI members. This will soon all change with Global compulsory mobile phone registration and assigned internet administration in the near future.

oscarBravo

Heh. Guess who just triggered Echelon.

Gareth37

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

The system when fully up and running will work on seeking out random buzz words and tip off information on suspects.

If obvious words Garda, M15, Police, CCTV, Heathrow, Semtex, Potassium Nitrate, Airport, child, bank, escape, porn etc were picked up the details would automatically register and show up on monitoring screens. It would be up to the authorities monitoring the system to discern whether it is important enough to activate live monitoring and follow it up. Anyone who has been convicted in the past can expect to be randomly monitered on a regular basis.

The "Buzz" word system has been used for checking text and email messages by M15 and the FBI for years however it has been very difficult to assign names and faces on IP and IMEI members. This will soon all change with Global compulsory mobile phone registration and assigned internet administration in the near future.

Money, profit, business are probably buzzwords too. Yes, the world is certainly taking shape going towards the end.

thecommander

Gareth37 wrote: »

Yes, this is what happened me. Millions of phones in the UK are bugged but a huge number in ireland. You don't need access the phone, the phone is accessed remotely. The IMEI number is all they need or whatever its called. The phone can be switched off.

You were bugged? How do you know?

Gareth37

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

If you decide to disgard your gadgets and mobile phone on your trip you will be tracked on congestion charge / traffic ANPR cams, e-tags and Multi-camera system (MCS) Gatsos.

There will be no escape from the all seeing eye of Big Brother in the NWO. :eek:

They can also put a tracking device on your vehicle and probably use Live Satellite image/camera technology also.

Owen

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Not necessarily, the software could be forwarded to the target phone as a trojian unknown to the owner and then subsequently activated. All those phones listed are basically micro computers and can be hacked just like any normal PC.

How? An MMS wouldn't have the ability to have an application Java or otherwise attached to it, so it would physically have to be pushed to the phone over bluetooth, or USB. Then, it would take a complete thicko to a) accept the file transfer and b) actually click 'accept' and 'install' several times to load up this unknown program to their phone.

Also, the Symbian operating system you're claiming that can be hacked does not run anything like a normal PC. It doesn't have open ports that can be DOS'd, nor do they have services running on them that allow people to externally connect, save for Bluetooth/Infrared - both of which require the user to accept the file transfer before it will take place.

Highly blown out of proportion IMO.

Gareth37

thecommander wrote: »

You were bugged? How do you know?

Im not going to post up the details but the evidence is undeniable. I also know many other people who know that they are bugged too, some because they promoted anti government policies but thats life. Nothing you can do about it. They are in charge of this world but not the next world.

thecommander

ned78 wrote: »

Highly blown out of proportion IMO.

Thats what they want you to think etc etc blah blah

Owen

Hardly. I worked in the cellular industry for 5 years through college, and have worked on and off in IT for a lot longer. I do have a fair idea of what I'm talking about

thecommander

Gareth37 wrote: »

Im not going to post up the details but the evidence is undeniable. I also know many other people who know that they are bugged too, some because they promoted anti government policies but thats life. Nothing you can do about it. They are in charge of this world but not the next world.

Who decided the evidence was undeniable?

KTRIC

ned78 wrote: »

How? An MMS wouldn't have the ability to have an application Java or otherwise attached to it, so it would physically have to be pushed to the phone over bluetooth, or USB. Then, it would take a complete thicko to a) accept the file transfer and b) actually click 'accept' and 'install' several times to load up this unknown program to their phone.

Also, the Symbian operating system you're claiming that can be hacked does not run anything like a normal PC. It doesn't have open ports that can be DOS'd, nor do they have services running on them that allow people to externally connect, save for Bluetooth/Infrared - both of which require the user to accept the file transfer before it will take place.

Highly blown out of proportion IMO.

Completely agree Ned, I work for one of the main phone manufacturers and believe me if they could do this sh!te , then there would be uproar.

I work in the IT department as well and a phone handset is nothing like a windows or linux client.

Run_to_da_hills

KTRIC wrote: »

Completely agree Ned, I work for one of the main phone manufacturers and believe me if they could do this sh!te , then there would be uproar.

I work in the IT department as well and a phone handset is nothing like a windows or linux client.

Do you think that M15 or the FBI would let their secrets out? Have you been reading the press recently. The UK authorities want to ban any media from reporting anything that could be contary to the interests of National Security. If such technology becomes availible to the police forces and is implimented we are obviously not going to hear about it.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/mps-seek-to-censor-the-media-1006607.html

seamus

Why would anyone care about your conversations?

Owen

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Do you think that M15 or the FBI would let their secrets out?

But they don't have any secrets in this regard. Take for example the new iPhone. There were literally dozens of developers who stripped every single line of the software apart when they were looking to unlock the phone to any network. They decoded everything, how it worked, why it worked. These guys were the best crackers out there, and they found nothing.

It's so so easy to see what a phone is made of, and what it's doing these days. These type of crackpot theories are best left for the tinfoil hat brigade. This isn't a conspiracy theory, because there's no merit behind it. This is an uneducated stab at sensationalism.

KTRIC

ned78 wrote: »

This is an uneducated stab at sensationalism.

Run_to_da_hills sensationalist !!! surely you jest ?? :rolleyes:

oscarBravo

Gareth37 wrote: »

Im not going to post up the details but the evidence is undeniable.

There's a shock.

ArseBurger

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

The system when fully up and running will work on seeking out random buzz words and tip off information on suspects.

If obvious words Garda, M15, Police, CCTV, Heathrow, Semtex, Potassium Nitrate, Airport, child, bank, escape, porn etc were picked up the details would automatically register and show up on monitoring screens. It would be up to the authorities monitoring the system to discern whether it is important enough to activate live monitoring and follow it up.

You think this doesn't happen already? Look at Omagh.

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

The "Buzz" word system has been used for checking text and email messages by M15 and the FBI for years however it has been very difficult to assign names and faces on IP and IMEI members. This will soon all change with Global compulsory mobile phone registration and assigned internet administration in the near future.

I find it quite amusing that people think there's anonymity with mobiles at the moment.

It isn't hard to track down a user once the warrants have been issued.

Same goes for 'anonymous' Internet access.

All the information is there - all it requires is a warrant.

Oh - and before your tinfoil hat melts, the authorities can't get the information without a warrant. Believe me.

Run_to_da_hills

ArseBurger wrote: »

All the information is there - all it requires is a warrant.

Warrents in this day and age?. ROFL.

Do you honestly think the authorities will request warrents to inspect data from your service providers if they already have direct live access to your mobile phone. :rolleyes:

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2008/1107/1225925540654.html

http://www.independent.ie/business/technology/in-a-state-of-surveillance-1301589.html

ArseBurger

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Warrents in this day and age?. ROFL.

Do you honestly think the authorities will request warrents to inspect data from your service providers if they already have direct live access to your mobile phone. :rolleyes:

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2008/1107/1225925540654.html

http://www.independent.ie/business/technology/in-a-state-of-surveillance-1301589.html

Yes, because they do issue warrants and they don't have live access as presented in the media.

Gareth37

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Warrents in this day and age?. ROFL.

Do you honestly think the authorities will request warrents to inspect data from your service providers if they already have direct live access to your mobile phone. :rolleyes:

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2008/1107/1225925540654.html

http://www.independent.ie/business/technology/in-a-state-of-surveillance-1301589.html

Do you ever notice on these forums when you post the truth antichrists like oscarbravo and friends respond with rubbish to as many other threads as possible to push down the truth?

Very obvious

The problem is when you start bugging people who do no wrong they start telling people for they have nothing to hide. Covert operations are supposed to be kept covert but antichrists only contain evil, not wisdom, so this passes them bye.

Its very obvious that every telephone and Internet connection in the world is being monitored at this stage.

Gareth37

ArseBurger wrote: »

Yes, because they do issue warrants and they don't have live access as presented in the media.

Don't make me laugh, you guys certainly have live access

Gareth37

KTRIC wrote: »

Run_to_da_hills sensationalist !!! surely you jest ?? :rolleyes:

He speaks the truth

ArseBurger

Live access has always been available - when a warrant is issued.

For example, the cops have always been able to go to the Telco with a warrant and listen in to a telephone call. Since telephone calls existed.

Similarly, if a cop turns up with a warrant to an ISP, they can give him / her a mirror port on a switch and filter to 'listen' to live traffic. Technically, it's always been possible.

However, it all requires a warrant to initiate the gathering of data.

Tell me this - who exactly has your so called unrestricted and unsanctioned access? And who is giving it to them?

No ISP or Telco that I know of would let a cop through the door on anywhere near the network without a warrant. Simply because they are custodians of the customers privacy. By law. And ethically.

Just because you're mental, doesn't mean they're out to get you.

oscarBravo

Gareth37 wrote: »

Do you ever notice on these forums when you post the truth antichrists like oscarbravo and friends respond with rubbish to as many other threads as possible to push down the truth?

Yay - I've been promoted from little Hitler to Antichrist!

Now I need to find a nice antichrist avatar...

Mahatma coat

dont get ahead of yerself there Oscar, your only AN Antichrist yet, I wouldnt be changin the Avatar till they confirm you as THE Antichrist

seamus

There's a very simple solution to your problem Gareth - stop using phones and telecommunications devices and move into a camo tent in the Arizona desert. How would they find you then?

KTRIC

seamus wrote: »

There's a very simple solution to your problem Gareth - stop using phones and telecommunications devices and move into a camo tent in the Arizona desert. How would they find you then?

duh !!, with the transmitters in his fillings :rolleyes:

Gareth37

seamus wrote: »

There's a very simple solution to your problem Gareth - stop using phones and telecommunications devices and move into a camo tent in the Arizona desert. How would they find you then?

Satellite surveillence

bonkey

seamus wrote: »

How would they find you then?

There's a far more important question...

If we're supposed to believe in this all-powerful, all-monitoring, all-controlling, secret world power.....

Why would they care enough to bother with you?

Let me guess....you could tell me, but it might draw the attention of the people you're alleging monitor everything and everyone anyway.....

Run_to_da_hills

KTRIC wrote: »

Completely agree Ned, I work for one of the main phone manufacturers and believe me if they could do this sh!te , then there would be uproar.

I work in the IT department as well and a phone handset is nothing like a windows or linux client.

Interesting but surprised that it would come from a state censored source.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G1fNjK9SXg

Mahatma coat

ah but thats DISINFO, taking the battery out may not actualy stop them from listening to you, remember that young fella that was killed in Cork, they found him by boosting the power being transmitted to his phone even tho the battery was dead.

Run_to_da_hills

Mahatma coat wrote: »

ah but thats DISINFO, taking the battery out may not actualy stop them from listening to you, remember that young fella that was killed in Cork, they found him by boosting the power being transmitted to his phone even tho the battery was dead.

I already mentioned that in my BIG BROTHER post.

You need to remove the sim. This is how the authorities will trick you into believe that taking the battery out is sufficient.

Some newer generation phones may automaticaally clone the data from the sim directly on to the ssd drive unknowingly. The data base has the record of the IMEI which is sufficient enough.. Old analogue phones on the 088 TACS system never had any sims. Then we are foooked altogether. :eek:

FOX is a state run news channel for the NWO just like TASS was for the former Soviet Union.

Kershaw.D

your all just a lil paranoid

Run_to_da_hills

Kershaw.D wrote: »

your all just a lil paranoid

We will be when all this surveillance can be used as evidence against us in court :eek:

You would be afraid to tell a joke about a bomb on a plane in case Big Brother took it serious. :eek:

seanybiker

ha ha ha i only read about 5 lines of op and seen its all just paranoia mate. I can use my n95 as a motion sensor but if im out i normaly bring phone with me.complete bull mate. Topic should be closed trust me. Im busting meself laughing at thought of it. Theory out the window mate.ill give ya proof if ya want

Run_to_da_hills

Keep your phone close to a running tap, the background noise will throw the authorities off. :pac:

bonkey

Mahatma coat wrote: »

remember that young fella that was killed in Cork, they found him by boosting the power being transmitted to his phone even tho the battery was dead.

Never heard that story...but it sounds really interesting.

Do you have any details?

Run_to_da_hills

bonkey wrote: »

Never heard that story...but it sounds really interesting.

Do you have any details?

O' Holleran case, there was a mention of this in the press at the time. The Service provider boosted up the signal for a couple of seconds from near by booster transmitters and located the phone. There was enough current in the bios/clock battery to omit a small signal. Apparently its only in very rare circumstsnces that they do this as it can damage equipment.

Mahatma coat

seanybiker wrote: »

ha ha ha i only read about 5 lines of op and seen its all just paranoia mate. I can use my n95 as a motion sensor but if im out i normaly bring phone with me.complete bull mate. Topic should be closed trust me. Im busting meself laughing at thought of it. Theory out the window mate.ill give ya proof if ya want

Well come on then, what is it you can prove?


oh and Tahnks RTDH, I couldnt remember that youngfellas name.

oscarBravo

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

O' Holleran case, there was a mention of this in the press at the time. The Service provider boosted up the signal for a couple of seconds from near by booster transmitters and located the phone. There was enough current in the bios/clock battery to omit a small signal. Apparently its only in very rare circumstsnces that they do this as it can damage equipment.

I'd love to hear more about this. It's not at all consistent with my understanding of how cellular systems work, and I make my living in the wireless communication field.

seamus

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

O' Holleran case, there was a mention of this in the press at the time. The Service provider boosted up the signal for a couple of seconds from near by booster transmitters and located the phone. There was enough current in the bios/clock battery to omit a small signal. Apparently its only in very rare circumstsnces that they do this as it can damage equipment.

The power was taken from the battery. The phone was switched off, but even in the switched off or low battery states many phones will still check in with the network now and again.

To the best of my knowledge most phones don't have a separate BIOS/clock battery, they just use a tiny amount of charge from the battery to maintain the clock. This is why many older phones used to prompt for the correct date and time if the battery was taken out for any extended period of time. Most modern phones take the date/time from the network unless you tell them otherwise, which is why you don't get prompted for the correct time.

Run_to_da_hills

oscarBravo wrote: »

I'd love to hear more about this. It's not at all consistent with my understanding of how cellular systems work, and I make my living in the wireless communication field.

If they can turn a 3G handset into a "roving bugs" from its switched off mode i am sure they are capibile of doing a lot of other things with them. :eek:

O Hollerans phone would have been quite dated compaired to anything of today.

seamus wrote: »

The power was taken from the battery. The phone was switched off, but even in the switched off or low battery states many phones will still check in with the network now and again.

To the best of my knowledge most phones don't have a separate BIOS/clock battery, they just use a tiny amount of charge from the battery to maintain the clock. This is why many older phones used to prompt for the correct date and time if the battery was taken out for any extended period of time. Most modern phones take the date/time from the network unless you tell them otherwise, which is why you don't get prompted for the correct time.

All phones to the best of my knowledge have been using a separate bios batteries for years. It my be some form of a capacitor built into the circuitry that takes its charge from the main battery.

If they were to depend on taking the power from the main battery al lot of the data would be lost as soon as the battery is removed. I have an old Nokia 5100. The "clock" battery is long gone, I have to reset the clock and date each time the battery is removed or if it goes dead. This is the same as removing the bios battery from the motherboard of a PC.