champions leauge again

redfan

man u and inter but woefull odds.
wouldnt touch pool game

what bets are you guys doing?

barney85

I would fancy united, inter, chelsea, zenit st petersberg, villarreal, bordeaux, all home wins....i have no access to prices at work though

Bubs101

Roma without Totti are useless ergo Chelsea at whatver, maybe minus 1

Villareal and Zenit double will also tempt on Tuesday

redfan

roma useless . beaten at home last night 4.0 by inter

but there will be 1 shock result im sure along the way tu/wed night
barca are flying right now . 1/2 away win

thedini

redfan wrote: »

man u and inter but woefull odds.
wouldnt touch pool game

what bets are you guys doing?

i actually think that utd are at good odds. celtic missing few players (forwards) in particular. celtic never won away from home. utd flying etc. I will actually be having a fairly decent punt on this.

redfan

2/7 would you trust yourself to lay 7ton to get 200 back? man u never won a cl game in old traford this season

mike65

Man Utd - 1
Chelsea - 1
Real Madrid
Inter Milan

11/1

Mike

redfan

if i had spare cash id go for madris plus 1 4/11 and man u 2/7
buying money ...........:D

PIMPHO

Slightly off the topic but Man Citeh tonight should be bankers against a brutal Newcastle team? Might load on it and use winnings on accum for CL Tues/Weds.

Thoughts?

Collie D

redfan wrote: »

2/7 would you trust yourself to lay 7ton to get 200 back? man u never won a cl game in old traford this season

They've only played one. Think the bet here could be Celtic +2 @ 10/11 with PP. Despite their woeful away record they never really take a hiding. United to win but I reckon there'll be just the one in it.

Also think Chelsea will rip Roma to shreds so -1 @ 5/4 also with PP, Bayern will beat Fiorentina @ 5/6 with Boyles and tentative shout for Lyon to beat Steau Bucharest @ 6/5 with PP.

Draw should suit both Liverpool and Atletico @ 9/4 with PP.

Five selections there, haven't figured out what to do with them yet.

dotsflan

only one bet for me this and im going with my heart and backing liverpool @9/5 with PP i know im going to regret it but im liking the heart there showing this season:pac::pac::pac:

holdemfoldem

PIMPHO wrote: »

Slightly off the topic but Man Citeh tonight should be bankers against a brutal Newcastle team? Might load on it and use winnings on accum for CL Tues/Weds.

Thoughts?

yeah had that plan to, took city -1.. damn

thedini

redfan wrote: »

2/7 would you trust yourself to lay 7ton to get 200 back? man u never won a cl game in old traford this season

yes very happy:)

estebancambias

Man Utd
Fenerbache
Villarreal
Zenit
Juventus
Fiorentina


Anybody know what odds that would be?

holdemfoldem

estebancambias wrote: »

Man Utd
Fenerbache
Villarreal
Zenit
Juventus
Fiorentina


Anybody know what odds that would be?

thats just pure lazy.. but i was doin my bets anyway so in and around 90-1..

good look btw:rolleyes:

thedini

estebancambias wrote: »

Man Utd
Fenerbache
Villarreal
Zenit
Juventus
Fiorentina


Anybody know what odds that would be?

94/1

estebancambias

surely not?

holdemfoldem

estebancambias wrote: »

surely not?

(€1 )
by 15/4 ( €4.75 )
by 15/8 ( €13.66 )
by 5/2 ( €47.81 )
by 1/5 ( €57.37 )
by 2/7 ( €73.76 )
by 2/7 = €94.83

I'm bored

Lao Lao

There's a very good reason why it's 94/1, sorry, correction, two very good reasons why it's 94/1 - Fiorentina aren't going to beat Bayern and Fenerbache aren't going to beat Arsenal......you might as well just give the money to charity

estebancambias

im gonna put a fiver on that tommorow. Only result which worries me is the Fiorentina vs Bayern game. I just feel Fiorentina could nick that one.


Eh no. fenerbache are at home and Bayern aren't that good.

holdemfoldem

estebancambias wrote: »

im gonna put a fiver on that tommorow. Only result which worries me is the Fiorentina vs Bayern game. I just feel Fiorentina could nick that one.


Eh no. fenerbache are at home and Bayern aren't that good.

might as well put the bet on now.. but i agree with lao munich should have that game.. id do a 4's ,5's and accum on the six game, spread out a couple of € and then if one or two go wrong ( which looks like they will sry ) all might not be lost

cashville

bayern suck this season, but so do fener,cant see them beatin the arse.
fiorentina are playin well/scorin goals

kryogen

having a look at a possible double draw right now

liverpool and arsenal both to draw is just about 9.5/1

thinking of going crazy and looking for even more miracles by throwing in a draw in the psg and marseille game aswell to make it a 33/1 treble

thoughts?

Xavi6

PIMPHO wrote: »

Slightly off the topic but Man Citeh tonight should be bankers against a brutal Newcastle team? Might load on it and use winnings on accum for CL Tues/Weds.

Thoughts?

Lol one day people will learn to never ever bet on City.

barney85

I did an 8 home game accum spread over the next 2 days which include the english football league. €10 @ 11.5/1
Man Utd
Villarreal
Zenit
Inter
Chelsea
Reading
Sheff Utd
Leeds

redfan

just a heads up.. ronaldo may be rested for man u.
goal.com story on it there.is fergie getting cocky or playing games?
im going to try read up on any team news for chelsea . if the drog is fit 49 is a great price lads




il never back liverpool in any comp............
never...........

mike65

I think Atletico will be allowed to win this week and Liverpool will be allowed to win next week.

Mike

semibluff

i like madrid +1. Juve are in the horrors.
Also man U to win.

to note - i think that villareal are a bit short at 1.2, and may be worth a lay.

5starpool

I'd be a bit loathe about backing any italian team in Europe lately, even Inter aren't the most reliable of teams although they *should* be fine this week.

If I were doing an accumulator (not decided yet) I would probably do:

Villareal
Porto
Chelsea
Barca
Reading (after a very quick glance at the championship fixtures)

holdemfoldem

decided to do one semi-accum over two days instead of seperate for each:

Villareal -2 ( I think aalborg are weak, -2 mite be to much though)
Porto
inter -1 ( they completed my last win accum with -2 winning 4-0)
chelsea -1 (same as above chelsea flying and roma took a beating mid week )
barcelona ( wouldn't be in my bet if they were up against a better team )
manu -1 ( i support them also i think they're startin to hit form finally)

€10 split on fourfolds, fiv'es and accum.. think it worked out at €180 odd

have another small trble with arsenal etc but above is my main one for next few days

jArgHA

holdemfoldem wrote: »

decided to do one semi-accum over two days instead of seperate for each:

Villareal -2 ( I think aalborg are weak, -2 mite be to much though)
Porto
inter -1 ( they completed my last win accum with -2 winning 4-0)
chelsea -1 (same as above chelsea flying and roma took a beating mid week )
barcelona ( wouldn't be in my bet if they were up against a better team )
manu -1 ( i support them also i think they're startin to hit form finally)

€10 split on fourfolds, fiv'es and accum.. think it worked out at €180 odd

have another small trble with arsenal etc but above is my main one for next few days

Excuse my green-ness but is it possible to do such accumulators on Betfair? All I can see in their Champions League section is doubles & trebles for Tuesday or Wednesday...

mike65

Looking at

Real Madrid
Rooney anytime
Reading -1
Leeds
Brentford

About 27/1 as a accu but if I do it, it'll be 4 from 5s.

Mike

holdemfoldem

haven't used betfair in ages, this is just a normal PP bet like a lucky 63 without singles, doubles or trebles.

thedini

utd single 2/7

villarreal,zenit,utd treble evs

mike65

Aalborg are second bottom of the league and have not won in five games. The only risk is that Villareal might take this a bit too easy with a big game this weekend.

Mike

holdemfoldem

mike65 wrote: »

Aalborg are second bottom of the league and have not won in five games. The only risk is that Villareal might take this a bit too easy with a big game this weekend.

Mike

good point.. i based it on odds instead of considering how the game might play out.. think it was 4 to 6 or 7 for the -1 and 8 to 5 for -2.. i think i should have went for the safer -1 but sure can't change it now

estebancambias

BATE beating Zenit

thedini

thedini wrote: »

utd single 2/7

villarreal,zenit,utd treble evs

utd cruised home. how did zenit not win, kicked them off the park.

holdemfoldem

PP had a porto win in their results and on my receipt for about 15 mins after FT.. damn them getting my hopes up..

oh well wonder what the five wins would get me back..

got my little fiver treble up as well so no harm done:D

Lao Lao

estebancambias wrote: »

Eh no. fenerbache are at home and Bayern aren't that good.

Fenerbache 2 - Arsenal 5

Bayern 3 - Fiorentina 0

When will people learn that when bookie's give odds of 94/1, it's because they (the bookies) are a massive favourite to win, really cannot understand why people go for these massive (stupid) odds - as said previously, you're better off giving the money to charity

ArmaniJeanss

Lao Lao wrote: »

Fenerbache 2 - Arsenal 5

Bayern 3 - Fiorentina 0

When will people learn that when bookie's give odds of 94/1, it's because they (the bookies) are a massive favourite to win, really cannot understand why people go for these massive (stupid) odds - as said previously, you're better off giving the money to charity

Just because odds are 'massive' does not make them stupid.
If you found a bookie that gave 594/1 or 994/1 on this double in the reverse fixtures in 2 weeks would you consider it worth backing? Every outcome has a price that makes it value, big odds are not always bad bets.

holdemfoldem

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

Just because odds are 'massive' does not make them stupid.
If you found a bookie that gave 594/1 or 994/1 on this double in the reverse fixtures in 2 weeks would you consider it worth backing? Every outcome has a price that makes it value, big odds are not always bad bets.

yeah have to agree with lao here.. it was 94/1 for a reason.. in terms of a value bet alot of people would think 94/1 is good value on 6 matches but the bookies have such a massive edge in this bet that it makes it in poker terms negative EV or a big loser in the long run.

Bubs101

Lao Lao wrote: »

Fenerbache 2 - Arsenal 5

Bayern 3 - Fiorentina 0

When will people learn that when bookie's give odds of 94/1, it's because they (the bookies) are a massive favourite to win, really cannot understand why people go for these massive (stupid) odds - as said previously, you're better off giving the money to charity

Take it you haven't researched these at all. Fenerbache are actually quite good at home. Last year they scored victories over both Inter and Chelsea at home, both much better teams than Arsenal. As for Bayern, they aren't exactly dominating the Bundesliga while Fiorentina are impressing again in Serie A and did well in their last away trip in the Champion's League against Lyon. I would have thought the value was in Fener and Fiore tonight, particularly Fener

thedini

holdemfoldem wrote: »

yeah have to agree with lao here.. it was 94/1 for a reason.. in terms of a value bet alot of people would think 94/1 is good value on 6 matches but the bookies have such a massive edge in this bet that it makes it in poker terms negative EV or a big loser in the long run.

whilst the bookies do typically have a massive edge in these type of bets that is because of punters picking the 'incorrect' selections. if you can find an accumulator @ 94/1 which should be say 80/1 etc then of course it's value.

Lao Lao

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

Just because odds are 'massive' does not make them stupid.
If you found a bookie that gave 594/1 or 994/1 on this double in the reverse fixtures in 2 weeks would you consider it worth backing? Every outcome has a price that makes it value, big odds are not always bad bets.

That's a ridiculus argument, no bookie would ever give odds of 591/1 or 994/1 on a double.

I never said that big odds are always bad bets, but when odds are so high it is because the win outcome is not expected

Pj!

The old value debate again.

Some understand it, others don't.

Lao Lao

Bubs101 wrote: »

Take it you haven't researched these at all. Fenerbache are actually quite good at home. Last year they scored victories over both Inter and Chelsea at home, both much better teams than Arsenal. As for Bayern, they aren't exactly dominating the Bundesliga while Fiorentina are impressing again in Serie A and did well in their last away trip in the Champion's League against Lyon. I would have thought the value was in Fener and Fiore tonight, particularly Fener

I think you'll find that I have researched this. Where are Fenerbache in the league this season??? 10th is where they are and they are not playing great. They may have had a few scalps last season in the CL but their form this season so far has been poor. On top of that Arsenal are in very good form and finally seem to have sorted out their away CL games in dodgy places

Bayern got off to a rocky start in the Bundesliga but played well last week when they beat KSC. They are still a quality team and there was always going to be a backlash when they finally clicked, which they did last night

jArgHA

Barca / Chelsea / Inter Treble @ 6/4 on Betfair -
I can't see this not working out based on form (could be famous last words) so will be throwing a few bob on it.

stryker mcqueen

chelsea -1

6/5 on boyles

I think chelsea will destroy roma

PIMPHO

jArgHA wrote: »

Barca / Chelsea / Inter Treble @ 6/4 on Betfair -
I can't see this not working out based on form (could be famous last words) so will be throwing a few bob on it.

Hmmmm interesting treble indeed! Is this the best odds for this treble as you have to take into account BF's commission?

redfan

barca 1/2 tom floods messi and the lads . chelsea almost a dead cert . inter im not to sure.
its the one you think is a dead cert foooks us all up . 1/6 on, inter is a joke price .