Throwing Cigerette Butts out Car Windows

LFCFan · 17-10-2008 2:20pm #1

I think this may be my biggest pet hate. It REALLY F&*king annoys me. I see it happen at least once a day while driving. If I see it that often I can only imagine how many people actually do it. What the hell is the ashtray for in cars anyway? Loose change? How many of you smokers do this and do you have a reason in your head why you think it's ok?

pingpongz · 17-10-2008 2:22pm

I do it, why stink your car out with old cig butts?

ejmaztec · 17-10-2008 2:24pm

Do they have ash-trays in any new cars anymore?

I usually flick 'em at passing petrol-tankers, or when I'm driving past a tinder-dry forested area, cause I like arson about.

But that was before that Lenihan guy put 'em up 50 cent. Sob......

mike65 · 17-10-2008 2:24pm

Smokers eh?

Mike

Honey-ec · 17-10-2008 2:25pm

pingpongz wrote: »

I do it, why stink your car out with old cig butts?

Well it already stinks of smoke anyway, so what's the difference???

pingpongz · 17-10-2008 2:26pm

Honey-ec wrote: »

Well it already stinks of smoke anyway, so what's the difference???

Nope.. its called opening a window and air fresheners..

arybvtcw0eolkf · 17-10-2008 2:27pm

LFCFan wrote: »

I think this may be my biggest pet hate. It REALLY F&*king annoys me. I see it happen at least once a day while driving. If I see it that often I can only imagine how many people actually do it. What the hell is the ashtray for in cars anyway? Loose change? How many of you smokers do this and do you have a reason in your head why you think it's ok?

+1.

I detest it, scumbags mostly.

I've a work mate who came in one day complaining that she'd received a fine for doing it, bitching like it was someone else's fault SHE was caught.

Fvcking filthy disgusting habit.

**I was getting into a taxi in town recently, when I was getting in I noticed the driver fvck a cig out the window, the smell in the car was disgusting. I should have reported the fvcker for it but didn't (so I'm complaining about him to boards).

Honey-ec · 17-10-2008 2:27pm

pingpongz wrote: »

Nope.. its called opening a window and air fresheners..

Believe me, to a non-smoker it still stinks...

jim o doom · 17-10-2008 2:28pm

pingpongz wrote: »

I do it, why stink your car out with old cig butts?

I drive a motorbike as do many other road users, and a lot of us drive (from time to time) with an open face plate - a few times cigarettes have nearly gone into my helmet - if that was to occur, the owner of said cigarette butt would be missing a mirror off their car a few seconds later.
so to answer your question, you would either "stink your car out" because (a) it's your filthy habit, why should the environment have to suffer (b) It could be dangerous to a biker (c) in case of something with point b, you car mirrors (or other car parts) could be forfeit depending on the biker who you hit (d) littering is illegal, throwing a butt out the window is littering, hence throwing a butt out your window is illegal.

Ruu_Old · 17-10-2008 2:29pm

Bigger fines for it please and maybe a night or two in the slammer.

DarkJager · 17-10-2008 2:31pm

LFCFan wrote: »

I think this may be my biggest pet hate. It REALLY F&*king annoys me. I see it happen at least once a day while driving. If I see it that often I can only imagine how many people actually do it. What the hell is the ashtray for in cars anyway? Loose change? How many of you smokers do this and do you have a reason in your head why you think it's ok?

Thats a fine eco warrior horse you're sitting on there.....

joe_chicken · 17-10-2008 2:34pm

Try working in a petrol station.

The amount of people I saw flicking cigarettes at the pumps!

One landed at my feet! When I shouted at the guy, his face turned white, he had no idea what he was doing.

petes · 17-10-2008 2:34pm

It is disgusting!!

Jack Bauer999 · 17-10-2008 2:36pm

LFCFan wrote: »

I think this may be my biggest pet hate. It REALLY F&*king annoys me. I see it happen at least once a day while driving. If I see it that often I can only imagine how many people actually do it. What the hell is the ashtray for in cars anyway? Loose change? How many of you smokers do this and do you have a reason in your head why you think it's ok?

once a car behind me flashed me for flicking my fag butt out the window,
so i lit up another one straight away and made the best attempt i could
to bounce that one off his windshield when finshed.

AnonoBoy · 17-10-2008 2:37pm

DarkJager wrote: »

Thats a fine eco warrior horse you're sitting on there.....

It's harldy an eco complaint. Just manners really not to flick a lit cigarette out a window with no regard for where or who it could hit. Like what if I'm wearing my brand new pair of Diesel jeans - they'd go up in a shot!!!!!

biko · 17-10-2008 2:37pm

It's cool to smoke and even cooler to flick the butt out the window, so there!

geuro · 17-10-2008 2:38pm

pingpongz wrote: »

I do it, why stink your car out with old cig butts?

Why smoke if you don't like the smell? For some bizarre reason, lots of smokers who would not normally litter feel that cigarette butts are in some way exempt - that throwing your cigarette butt out the window or on the pavement doesn't count as litter. I am not anti smoking, i smoked for 15 years and still smoke a spliff. But litter is litter.

jim o doom · 17-10-2008 2:39pm

Jack Bauer999 wrote: »

once a car behind me flashed me for flicking my fag butt out the window,
so i lit up another one straight away and made the best attempt i could
to bounce that one off his windshield when finshed.

Wow that's amazingly sound of you - I hate it when people call me on something irresponsible and ignorant that I have done too! Best way is to get back at them for trying to make you feel like the douche they think you are, as soon as humanly possible -especially good if done in a stupid and illegal fashion that shows how manly you are!

ejmaztec · 17-10-2008 2:39pm

It was always fun, being followed by some guy in a convertible, flicking the butt out of the window and watching his gelled hair explode in my rear-view mirror, before he careered up an embankment and disappeared in a cloud of smoke and flames.

That Lenihan guy really screwed up my motoring fun.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 17-10-2008 2:41pm

jim o doom wrote: »

Wow that's amazingly sound of you - I hate it when people call me on something irresponsible and ignorant that I have done too! Best way is to get back at them for trying to make you feel like the douche they think you are, as soon as humanly possible -especially good if done in a stupid and illegal fashion that shows how manly you are!

+1.

But I think the chap was spoofing us.

_feedback_ · 17-10-2008 2:42pm

LFCFan wrote: »

I think this may be my biggest pet hate. It REALLY F&*king annoys me. I see it happen at least once a day while driving. If I see it that often I can only imagine how many people actually do it. What the hell is the ashtray for in cars anyway? Loose change? How many of you smokers do this and do you have a reason in your head why you think it's ok?

I do use my ashtray for loose change actually. It's handy.

I reckon it's a lot safer throwing em out the window.. The ashtray is on my left hand side in an awkward spot, so trying to put out a cigarette in there would be a nightmare and probably end up with me swerving all over the road. Plus, all me loose change would be smelly and covered in ashes.

They'll probably end up banning smoking while driving anyway, as it probably is fairly dangerous.

AnonoBoy · 17-10-2008 2:43pm

Jack Bauer999 wrote: »

once a car behind me flashed me for flicking my fag butt out the window,
so i lit up another one straight away and made the best attempt i could
to bounce that one off his windshield when finshed.

How dare they? How F*cking Dare They!!!!!!!?????????

HOW F*CKING DARE THOSE B*STARDS EVEN THINK ABOUT FLASHING THEIR LIGHTS AT YOU FOR LITTERING!!!!

I hope you gave them more than another cigarette out the window. I hope you slammed on the brakes, got out and used something large, blunt and heavy to smash the sh*t out of their miserable excuse for a car. Those hippie commie nazi bastards.

cornbb · 17-10-2008 2:43pm

I've gotten out of the habit of doing this recently. But sheesh, I had no idea people's vaginas could get so sandy over it...

Mr. Presentable · 17-10-2008 2:44pm

DarkJager wrote: »

Thats a fine eco warrior horse you're sitting on there.....

Just looks that way from the Low Road.........

jim o doom · 17-10-2008 2:45pm

elviscostello wrote: »

I do use my ashtray for loose change actually. It's handy.

I reckon it's a lot safer throwing em out the window.. The ashtray is on my left hand side in an awkward spot, so trying to put out a cigarette in there would be a nightmare and probably end up with me swerving all over the road. Plus, all me loose change would be smelly and covered in ashes.

They'll probably end up banning smoking while driving anyway, as it probably is fairly dangerous.

I don't think smoking in cars should be banned myself - I don't care WHAT people do in their cars, as long as it doesn't interfere with their driving.. But littering in a way that can be dangerous for me on the road (cigarette butt inside helmet in the face) is a factor... if you have issues being unable to put a cigarette out in your ashtray, then maybe YOU shouldn't drive and smoke - don't see what other car driving smokers should be affected by a law, when they are happy to use the ash tray provided in the vehicle. Personally I find my trouser pockets a good place for change as opposed to throwing them out of a moving vehicle..

DarkJager · 17-10-2008 2:46pm

AnonoBoy wrote: »

How dare they? How F*cking Dare They!!!!!!!?????????

HOW F*CKING DARE THOSE B*STARDS EVEN THINK ABOUT FLASHING THEIR LIGHTS AT YOU FOR LITTERING!!!!

I hope you gave them more than another cigarette out the window. I hope you slammed on the brakes, got out and used something large, blunt and heavy to smash the sh*t out of their miserable excuse for a car. Those hippie commie nazi bastards.

Yeah exactly, what sad patethic bastard flashes his lights at someone for throwing a fag out the window? What ****in business is it of theirs?

Mr. Presentable · 17-10-2008 2:47pm

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Like what if I'm wearing my brand new pair of Diesel jeans - they'd go up in a shot!!!!!

Common misconception there. If they were Petrol, yes, but not Diesel

Dopey · 17-10-2008 2:48pm

Call Anti Litter Hotline

Freefone 1800 201093

Give them the reg plate number. They send out a fine automatically.

If the fine isn't paid their ma gets thrown out the window of a moving car. :P

Dinter · 17-10-2008 2:48pm

Yep I hate that too. Plus whatever about looking messy the butts aren't biodegradeable and carry a load of toxins that end up being washed into shores and from there into the water table.

Tbh it's just laziness to drop them.

LFCFan · 17-10-2008 2:49pm

DarkJager wrote: »

Thats a fine eco warrior horse you're sitting on there.....

the main reason has nothing to do with the environment. It's just plain disgusting, ignorant and shows very little regard on the part of the smoker to those around them. Would any of you smokers feel ok about throwing a burger wrapper or the cigarette box out the window?

I do think though that a lot of smokers just don't see it as littering. Like they have some divine right to throw their butts on the ground because they are afflicted with a decease and shouldn't be held accountable for anything they do because of said disease. Kind of like the druggies who use their addiction as an excuse for being scum, or the alcoholics who use their addiction as an excuse for beating the wife or crashing their car into someone while drunk.

DarkJager · 17-10-2008 2:50pm

Dinter wrote: »

Yep I hate that too. Plus whatever about looking messy the butts aren't biodegradeable and carry a load of toxins that end up being washed into shores and from there into the water table.

Tbh it's just laziness to drop them.

Somewhere, the dolphins are playing violins for you.....

jim o doom · 17-10-2008 2:50pm

Dinter wrote: »

Yep I hate that too. Plus whatever about looking messy the butts aren't biodegradeable and carry a load of toxins that end up being washed into shores and from there into the water table.

Tbh it's just laziness to drop them.

that's a pretty good point about the water table senor!

_feedback_ · 17-10-2008 2:51pm

jim o doom wrote: »

I don't think smoking in cars should be banned myself - I don't care WHAT people do in their cars, as long as it doesn't interfere with their driving.. But littering in a way that can be dangerous for me on the road (cigarette butt inside helmet in the face) is a factor... if you have issues being unable to put a cigarette out in your ashtray, then maybe YOU shouldn't drive and smoke - don't see what other car driving smokers should be affected by a law, when they are happy to use the ash tray provided in the vehicle. Personally I find my trouser pockets a good place for change as opposed to throwing them out of a moving vehicle..

Don't get your knickers in such a twist.. I was joking, although think it probably is dangerous... (dropping cigarette in car, both hands not 100% free, ashtray issues etc.)

I'm nearly sure it has been banned in some countries?

jim o doom · 17-10-2008 2:54pm

elviscostello wrote: »

Don't get your knickers in such a twist.. I was joking, although think it probably is dangerous... (dropping cigarette in car, both hands not 100% free, ashtray issues etc.)

I'm nearly sure it has been banned in some countries?

oh, sorry dude, totally misread it - sometimes it's hard to get the feeling of a post

Nah I don't really think it is dangerous, unless the driver is an idiot - it's not THAT distracting - it's only the part that interferes with me that I have a major problem with..

air born debris is enough of a pain on a bike without adding airborne flaming cigarettes to the mix!

Jack Bauer999 · 17-10-2008 2:54pm

jim o doom wrote: »

Wow that's amazingly sound of you - I hate it when people call me on something irresponsible and ignorant that I have done too! Best way is to get back at them for trying to make you feel like the douche they think you are, as soon as humanly possible -especially good if done in a stupid and illegal fashion that shows how manly you are!

your right, because of those inspirational comments of yours, im now a reformed man!

Eoin · 17-10-2008 2:54pm

geuro wrote: »

Why smoke if you don't like the smell?

Not excusing it in any way at all, but for what it's worth there is a difference between the smell of a used cigarette butt and the smell of tobacco. Smokers will probably notice it a lot more than non-smokers.

Dinter · 17-10-2008 2:55pm

DarkJager wrote: »

Somewhere, the dolphins are playing violins for you.....

And somewhere you're tossing a cigarette butt from the window because you're somehow far too cool for bins.

jim o doom · 17-10-2008 2:57pm

Jack Bauer999 wrote: »

your right, because of those inspirational comments of yours, im now a reformed man!

Sweet! Now I know there's no danger of me removing one of your mirrors with a boot on the road because of a foolishly thrown ciggarette.

Wagon · 17-10-2008 2:57pm

Another anti-smoking bitch rant eh?

Nope, always put em in the bin. Don't drive, try to avoid it if a passenger but when your on a 4 hour journey and you just want the quick one, and the driver doesn't want the cigerette butt in the car then I'd resort to it. I feel guilty when i do it but there's no bins on the M50. Even if they were it'd be pretty hard to get them in at 120kmh.

DarkJager · 17-10-2008 2:58pm

Dinter wrote: »

And somewhere you're tossing a cigarette butt from the window because you're somehow far too cool for bins.

Ex-smoker

Non smokers really get on my nerves. First its too smokey in pubs, then they want smoking banned from peoples own cars (what right they have to suggest this baffles me), they want prices increased on cigarettes...and then they wonder why smokers don't actually give a **** about where the fag butts go???

Dinter · 17-10-2008 3:00pm

Wagon wrote: »

Another anti-smoking bitch rant eh?

Nope, always put em in the bin. Don't drive, try to avoid it if a passenger but when your on a 4 hour journey and you just want the quick one, and the driver doesn't want the cigerette butt in the car then I'd resort to it. I feel guilty when i do it but there's no bins on the M50. Even if they were it'd be pretty hard to get them in at 120kmh.

Nah it's not anti smoking. I smoke in the car all the time I just don't fuk it out the window when I'm finished. I know what you mean about the car though. Been very tempted.

jim o doom · 17-10-2008 3:00pm

DarkJager wrote: »

Ex-smoker

Non smokers really get on my nerves. First its too smokey in pubs, then they want smoking banned from peoples own cars (what right they have to suggest this baffles me), they want prices increased on cigarettes...and then they wonder why smokers don't actually give a **** about where the fag butts go???

I don't smoke tobbacco but I do weed - where do you get the idea that all of us "anti tobbacco" heads care about the price, or what you do INSIDE your car? I think expensive tobbacco is insane, because people get hooked, then the government taxes the addiction, which also drives up inflation - complete folly. I also think you should be allowed to do whatever you want with tobbaco in your car, as long as it isn't interfereing with my day (which airborne cigarettes do). Most of my non-smoker mates would be the same as me. Nobody needs a nanny state.

Honey-ec · 17-10-2008 3:02pm

DarkJager wrote: »

Non smokers really get on my nerves. First its too smokey in pubs, then they want smoking banned from peoples own cars (what right they have to suggest this baffles me)

I don't want smokers banned from smoking in their own cars, I just want them to stop launching their fag ends out the window.

Same as I think people who drop their chewing gum on the ground should be tarred & feathered. Doesn't mean I think the practice of chewing gum itself should be banned, though.

hopalong85 · 17-10-2008 3:02pm

jim o doom wrote: »

I drive a motorbike as do many other road users, and a lot of us drive (from time to time) with an open face plate - a few times cigarettes have nearly gone into my helmet - if that was to occur, the owner of said cigarette butt would be missing a mirror off their car a few seconds later.
so to answer your question, you would either "stink your car out" because (a) it's your filthy habit, why should the environment have to suffer (b) It could be dangerous to a biker (c) in case of something with point b, you car mirrors (or other car parts) could be forfeit depending on the biker who you hit (d) littering is illegal, throwing a butt out the window is littering, hence throwing a butt out your window is illegal.

most bikers in dublin are a danger to themselves with their reckless driving. some of them should seriously realise that they ain't valentino rossi. i imagine cigarette butts are well down the list on the dangers they face.

Mena · 17-10-2008 3:02pm

Look at it this way. We're in a recession. People need jobs. Chucking butts out the window means the roads need to be cleaned. People are needed for these jobs and thus we're ensuring our employment situation gets back to normal.

You can spare the thanks, we know we're well appreciated.

As for taking out a biker, that's just an added bonus!

DarkJager · 17-10-2008 3:04pm

jim o doom wrote: »

I don't smoke tobbacco but I do weed - where do you get the idea that all of us "anti tobbacco" heads care about the price, or what you do INSIDE your car? I think expensive tobbacco is insane, because people get hooked, then the government taxes the addiction, which also drives up inflation - complete folly. I also think you should be allowed to do whatever you want with tobbaco in your car, as long as it isn't interfereing with my day (which airborne cigarettes do). Most of my non-smoker mates would be the same as me. Nobody needs a nanny state.

Agreed, nobody needs a nanny state the same way nobody needs do gooders telling them what they should and should not be doing.

LFCFan · 17-10-2008 3:04pm

Wagon wrote: »

Another anti-smoking bitch rant eh?

Nope, always put em in the bin. Don't drive, try to avoid it if a passenger but when your on a 4 hour journey and you just want the quick one, and the driver doesn't want the cigerette butt in the car then I'd resort to it. I feel guilty when i do it but there's no bins on the M50. Even if they were it'd be pretty hard to get them in at 120kmh.

It's not an anti-smoking bitch rant, it's an anti flicking cigarette butts out the window of your car bitch rant

I couldn't give a toss if people want to smoke. I just don't agree with them subjecting everyone else to their litter.

dade · 17-10-2008 3:05pm

elviscostello wrote: »

They'll probably end up banning smoking while driving anyway, as it probably is fairly dangerous.

i recall them trying to do that in Germany a few years ago because of all teh car accidents

jim o doom · 17-10-2008 3:05pm

hopalong85 wrote: »

most bikers in dublin are a danger to themselves with their reckless driving. some of them should seriously realise that they ain't valentino rossi. i imagine cigarette butts are well down the list on the dangers they face.

well down the list? well clearly you realise biking is dangerous, and with the amount of dangers we face on the road, do we really NEED an extra one cause by something so stupid as a person unwilling, or simply too lazy to put their butt in an ashtray? a resounding NO is the answer. It's one thing for a person to put themself in danger by driving irresponsibly, if something happens then it is THEIR fault - but by throwing butts out the window you are endangering someone else. It's fairly simple logic really.

Wagon · 17-10-2008 3:06pm

Dinter wrote: »

Nah it's not anti smoking. I smoke in the car all the time I just don't fuk it out the window when I'm finished. I know what you mean about the car though. Been very tempted.

Apologies there my friend! Also LFC fan. Just noticed your reply there.

DarkJager wrote: »

Ex-smoker

Non smokers really get on my nerves. First its too smokey in pubs, then they want smoking banned from peoples own cars (what right they have to suggest this baffles me), they want prices increased on cigarettes...and then they wonder why smokers don't actually give a **** about where the fag butts go???

I agree. I'd throw them in the bin because I don't litter. But the anti-smoking thing is way out of hand. If you don't like it, don't do it. That's grand. But don't go telling others they should so the same. Load of me bollocks.

jim o doom · 17-10-2008 3:07pm

DarkJager wrote: »

Agreed, nobody needs a nanny state the same way nobody needs do gooders telling them what they should and should not be doing.

do gooders? that's ridiculous - anyone throwing a butt out of their window can directly affect me - and if something will badly affect me, I will certainly do something about it, up to and including abusing the person who carelessly endangered me. Just because your windscreen protects you in a car from such debris.. I don't have that protection.

Throwing Cigerette Butts out Car Windows

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