Garda ANPR

donvito99

Does any one have any idea of how much it costs?

TheNog

yayamark wrote: »

We arent "officially" trained up yet just playing around with it at the moment.

During the day it works brilliant but at night its not as good.


cameras back and front always looking for a reg to read can ping off 6 0r 8 regs off straight away.

That sounds really cool. Are they confined to Traffic at the moment or will it be used by district case. Also whats the problem with using it at night? Have you come across problems with illegal reg plates?

donvito99

This is a Metropolitan Police ANPR sys.

donvito99

The screen itself, probably newer.

donvito99

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-4tRWMuLhM

This guy can explain. Pretty interesting, also explains blues and twos etc. Most of its already been discussed.

donvito99

German court rules against Garda scanners





DAVID LABANYI
GERMANY'S FEDERAL Constitutional Court has ruled that laws used by police to automatically scan car number plates to search for stolen vehicles violate privacy rights.
In a statement yesterday, the court says that the current rules lack "a clear definition as to when data may be collected and of the scope of data use".
The news comes as An Garda confirmed that it will shortly place a tender for 100 automatic number plate recognition (ANPR) systems to detect stolen, untaxed and uninsured cars. The ANPR systems can also be used for speed enforcement and will complement the eight new mobile speed detection "Gatso" vans which have been ordered by the Garda and also the privatised speed camera which was recently approved by the Cabinet.
Gardaí expect each division will be given three mobile ANPR units with a number of additional units reserved for enforcement in high activity areas.
The ANPR system uses two small in-car infrared cameras to scan the number plates of passing cars. It cross-checks these numbers against a file of stolen, missing, uninsured and untaxed vehicles, as well as those associated with persistent offending, which is downloaded daily from the Garda's Pulse database. If a number plate from this file is identified, the system alerts gardaí, who can then intercept the vehicle.
ANPR units can monitor number plates on vehicles travelling in both directions and British registration plates.
The Garda have declined to comment on the cost of the ANPR project although The Irish Times understands that individual ANPR units cost between €40,000 to €70,000.
© 2008 The Irish Times
This article appears in the print edition of the Irish

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This is from March 08. Unit price could be anywhere between 40000 and 70000, so they are pretty damn dear. Nice to know that (touch wood) there will probably be 100 ANPR units on Irish roads, along with 8 GATSO vans.

Eru

That German ruling wont effect Ireland. We are entitled to stop cars purely to detect and prevent crime without any suspicion and collect any data available in public.

ScubaDave

Gotta love ireland!

TheNog

Got to see the ANPR very, very briefly the other night. Looks like a great system but was told at night it doesn't work too well but sure maybe that will be ironed out soon enough.

A skipper told me it is a brilliant set up. He pinged a van with no tax and it turned out the lad had no insurance and was disqualified from driving. Great catch. One other porblem he mentioned was if they get a ping in heavy traffic it is difficult to know which vehicle it was cos it will have just passed them by. This will probably be sorted out once the lads get to know the system better and used to it. They only have it a week now. These are the traffic lads.

Marcus.Aurelius

Is it just on pilot with a few units or what?

No sign of it yet with us.

TheNog

House wrote: »

Is it just on pilot with a few units or what?

No sign of it yet with us.

No I have heard it has been spotted in Dublin, Cork and Meath. It is in the Policing plan that it is being rolled out Nationally. I do remember reading somewhere that the target is 3 units per division but I could be wrong there. I would hope that at least one district patrol car would have one as well as Traffic Corp.

Cars with the ANPR are easy to spot with a short aerial (about a foot long and at the rear of the roof of the car I saw), camera mounted above the rear window and it was on a marked Traffic car that I saw. Front facing camera was fitted in behind the rear view mirror.

Marcus.Aurelius

Sounds like a really decent bit of kit for a change.

Costs are estimated at 40-65k per vehicle.

yeesh

smokeybear1980

The ANPR system has been rolled out to Traffic Units over the country. Wateford/KIlkenny Traffic Corps have their units for approx 1 month. ANPR cars can be identified very easily by the small black box positioned on the boot lid of the car. They are a very effective unit and yes they can be used during the hours of darkness. It's a very impressive piece of technology.

On the few ANPR equiped cars that I have seen I have not seen an extra ariel on the car

There is no plans for district patrol cars to get these units at the moment as they are expensive and training is required by all operators.

donvito99

TheNog wrote: »

Got to see the ANPR very, very briefly the other night. Looks like a great system but was told at night it doesn't work too well but sure maybe that will be ironed out soon enough.

A skipper told me it is a brilliant set up. He pinged a van with no tax and it turned out the lad had no insurance and was disqualified from driving. Great catch. One other problem he mentioned was if they get a ping in heavy traffic it is difficult to know which vehicle it was cos it will have just passed them by. This will probably be sorted out once the lads get to know the system better and used to it. They only have it a week now. These are the traffic lads.

Doesnt the system take a picture of the offending vehicle?

SV

It's in Carlow as well on an unmarked.

Hagar

donvito99 wrote: »

The screen itself, probably newer.

Not much point blurring the plate in the photo but still showing the plate P20PAJ highlighted on screen in blue.

smokeybear1980

Yeas it does take a picture of the offending vehicle and this can be made bigger by pressing a function key,

miju

House wrote: »

Is it just on pilot with a few units or what?

No sign of it yet with us.

nope it's not a pilot AFAIK there'll be about 200 cars fitted with the ANPR in total.

braypaul

seen a few around the phonics park . one or two were marked cars but most on unmarked i would have thought it would only be put into new car's like 08's and 09's but most i have seen are older cars i didn't notice the little aeral on the back the the camera was at the base of the rear window . wouldn't mind have a look at it in action . also seen my first 09 garda car today the new volvo's look really nice

Hooch

ANPR is working well, we have two cars since well before xmas. Not great at night, bad glare off the screen so its unsafe to use sometimes.
Costs €10,000 per vehicle. Its GPS linked and will have live PULSE in about 2 years in the vehicles. very few car fitted at the moment and it will only be allocated Traffic vehicle for the foreseable future.
Its PULSE linked for info at the moment so only %50 of hits are good ones and it has to be manualy updated everyday. ANPR is also calibrated for speed and can record video, both front and back at same time. Also takes still photos. Good piece of kit.

O ya the box on the booth is an infra red light for the rear camera, which is night vision.....or so they tell us.

timmywex

nice guy always wrote: »

ANPR is working well, we have two cars since well before xmas. Not great at night, bad glare off the screen so its unsafe to use sometimes.
Costs €10,000 per vehicle. Its GPS linked and will have live PULSE in about 2 years in the vehicles. very few car fitted at the moment and it will only be allocated Traffic vehicle for the foreseable future.
Its PULSE linked for info at the moment so only %50 of hits are good ones and it has to be manualy updated everyday. ANPR is also calibrated for speed and can record video, both front and back at same time. Also takes still photos. Good piece of kit.

O ya the box on the booth is an infra red light for the rear camera, which is night vision.....or so they tell us.

According to any report i read it was significantly more than 10000?

Hooch

timmywex wrote: »

According to any report i read it was significantly more than 10000?

Nope €10,000 for the system. Report you read was more then likely giving the cost per division which is between 30 - 40 grand.

Run_to_da_hills

esel wrote: »

Run to Da Hills is an authority on ANPR. Should I PM him a link to this thread? :eek:

In the UK news. :eek:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1158071/Motorway-cameras-let-police-MI5-track-car-trips-country.html

andrewh5

ANPR is a great tool. Now all the Gardai need are the same rights as police in the UK namely:

• No tax - car seized
• No insurance - car seized
• No NCT - car seized

Eru

andrewh5 wrote: »

ANPR is a great tool. Now all the Gardai need are the same rights as police in the UK namely:

• No tax - car seized
• No insurance - car seized
• No NCT - car seized

Shhhh, keep it a secret but we can

Hooch

Eru wrote: »

Shhhh, keep it a secret but we can

Dont tell anyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CamperMan

If the Gardai don't know how to use a desktop computer, how are they going to operate this system? ONLY JOKING ;-)

It is a great system.., I have seen the UK police using it, it's amazing how many cars the police stop for no MOT, tax or insurance.

donvito99

CamperMan wrote: »

If the Gardai don't know how to use a desktop computer, how are they going to operate this system?

Ctrl Alt Kick

Hooch

CamperMan wrote: »

If the Gardai don't know how to use a desktop computer, how are they going to operate this system?

I dont get it???

towel401

CamperMan wrote: »

If the Gardai don't know how to use a desktop computer, how are they going to operate this system?

they'll probably pay some company an absolute fortune to design a web 2.0 interface similar to facebook so they'll be well used to it