Katherine Lynch's WonderWomen

JP Liz

Katherine Lynch Is Back in WonderWomen

Back next Monday 20/10/08 on RTE 2

constipatinator

Load of ****e.

amacachi

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055398730

ianrush

Awful mess. Please make it stop.

podge018

First time I seen it tonight, (was it the first one??) and I thought it was hilarious. The Leitrim one especially, and the Tallaght one too. The traveller one dragged on a little and the blogger one is pointless.

I'm fully aware there'll be people on here slating it, but I don't care, gutted for you actually that you didn't find it funny, it's your loss.

daveywavey08

It's so bad. How do these people get their own shows? ABSOLUTE BOLLLOCKZZZ!!$!! Everyone knows women can't be funny

Ah-Watch

I was in a hoop laughing at it, harmless fun!:D

subfreq

How can the clip with the Egyptian and African be seen as anything but racism??

I have a high tolerance for comedy and black humour in particular but I thought that section was inexcusable...

podge018

Exactly! What do people expect sometimes, there's only so many Larry Davids and Steve Coogan's in the world. That tonight had some genuinely laugh out loud moments.

estebancambias

i just wouldn't watch this under any circumstance.

aylevaroo

awful

Utopia Parkway

subfreq wrote: »

How can the clip with the Egyptian and African be seen as anything but racism??

I have a high tolerance for comedy and black humour in particular but I thought that section was inexcusable...

Sure if her "traveller" character didn't get her in trouble she must have thought anything goes.:D

It really is very poor stuff in fairness. Her attempts to get on the Rose of Tralee were mildly amusing but I had to turn it off after that when she did some godawful skit on something or other.

Snake Plisken

Brilliant stuff, great to have Bernie back The only weak character was the Blogger! The rest was brilliant Worth the license fee alone!

JP Liz

She should stick with the Bernie and Shelia characters

Our man in Havana

Threads merged.

hot fuss

Loved Liz Hurley - absolutely brilliant!

lubie76

She is hilarious! I work with a few Leitrim women and she is spot on with that character (Don't tell them I said that though).

topper75

Funny girl. She won't be getting any stipend from the Limerick tourist board though! :pac: The traveller is supposed to be from there (even though there is actually way more of em up here in Connaught) and the Leitrim one is paranoid about it! Funny how many standups include a bit of Limerick-bashing in their routines these days. They should do it at the start of their shows to get it out of the way. It's a little old.

SprostonGreen

I enjoyed it, there were some funny moments alright, I liked Liz Hurley, the Tallaght one, bits of the Gypo Rose.

Maybe later down the series there might be more from Dalkey but last night, that character didnt do much.

I think people approached this programme ready to bash it, expecting it to be bad merely because its Irish, but thats bollix, it was good.

jmauel

Loved it. Sheila Sheik was definitely the best of them though. The blogger was poor though, a bit too like a one off character katherine tate did a few years ago.

JP Liz

I'd love to see Sheila Sheik on Fair City

Saint_Mel

SprostonGreen wrote: »

I think people approached this programme ready to bash it, expecting it to be bad merely because its Irish, but thats bollix, it was good.

Nope, people approached this programme ready to bash it because Katherine Lynch and her previous show are just not funny.

Utopia Parkway

Saint_Mel wrote: »

Nope, people approached this programme ready to bash it because Katherine Lynch and her previous show are just not funny.

Harsh. Harsh but fair.:D

missingtime

Saint_Mel wrote: »

Nope, people approached this programme ready to bash it because Katherine Lynch and her previous show are just not funny.

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SprostonGreen

Saint_Mel wrote: »

Nope, people approached this programme ready to bash it because Katherine Lynch and her previous show are just not funny.

Its probably best then that those people dont watch something that they clearly dont like.

Wertz

Enjoyed this myself...I don't know if it's that funny per se, but the woman is clearly mental and it's worth watching it for that alone...she has the accents and mannerisms down well, but I didn't take to the Leitrim one and thought the D4 thing was a bit weak. The Tallaght girl was funny as hell, and i enjoyed the street side stuff with the goat...
Racism? Christ back when I was a youngster "racism" was an accepted part of humour...no harm was meant either then or now...people playing the racism card at any given opportunity piss me the hell off...go watch some sanitised American bullsh*t if it's such a problem.
TBH I don't know where the show is going from here...the voiceover guy made me think it was trying to go down the Paths to Fredom route, but I don't think she can develop the characters that much...will be interesting to see.

Mr.Nice Guy

I wasn't bowled over by it to be honest. I liked the Sheila Sheik character but the rest of it was pretty meh. Not the sort of show I'd go out of my way to see although I imagine it would appeal to some.

gazzer

JP Liz wrote: »

I'd love to see Sheila Sheik on Fair City

That would be brilliant. I would definatlely watch Fair City if she was in it. She could play a relative of that ugly scanger one that was having the affair with Jimmy.

Sheila Sheik is my fav character on the show. The bit where she was hanging the mirror over that howya at the ATM was hilarious.

anotherlostie

Liz Hurley reminded me a bit of Ruth Scott the bogger DJ on 2FM. Other than that, I thought Sheila Sheikh was still funny, despite the change of husband and blackening of her skin.

ScumLord

Glad to see this back one of RTEs better shows. It's about time we got some more bogger comedy on the tele.

vote4pedro

Nice to see RTE finally have an African character on their screens, and turn him in to a Nigerian scam artist who dresses up like a witchdoctor whilst trying to rob Irish people.

An utterly pathetic half hour of "comedy", the premise was embarassingly awful ("What about if it's Little Britain....but like, for Ireland") and the sketches were cheap, humourless, pathetically staged, and downright offensive. If you found any moment of that odious show in any way funny then its lobotomy time....

shinny

I saw it for the first time the other night (not sure if it was on before that) and found it quite funny. Some parts were not good, but some of them were hilarious.

As for the racist comments above, I just don't get that. Irish people by our very nature are self deprecating, something many non Irish/English/Welsh/Scottish etc don't really get. The portrayal of the "Nigerian" in Ireland is an extension of this self deprecation. They are one of us and as such will be treated the same way we treat ourselves. Look at the stick she gave the Gypsy Rose. Stop playing the race card were it's not warranted, it dilutes the effect of it when it should really be raised.

vote4pedro

She dressed up as a gollywog for f*cks sake. In 2008. She blacked up. It might be the height of comedy in some rural backwaters, but in the main I like to think we're a little above that sort of sh*te.

If she had something to say a point to make about African immigrants, or even was able to poke a little fun at them/Irish society then fair enough. I'm one of the least PC people you could imagine, I like my jokes spectacularly offensive. But crucially they're jokes, that pathetic woman didn't try to make jokes. Saying "Nigerians have big mickeys and try to rob Irish people" isn't a joke, there is no humour involved. She's not lampooning anything. She's just being a moron.

And fwiw her traveller sketch was also pathetic. Pre-arranging with the organisers of the festival for her gruesome character to "interrupt" proceedings was so staged, and so lacking in humour it was cringeworthy. The whole show looked like a take on Little Britain that a Transition Year group might have knocked together.

shinny

It reminds me of how many have reacted to Killinaskully. Comments like, "They're making an eejit out of Irish People" - Please, a bit of perspective here. It's taking something minuscule about a place, person etc and blowing that totally out of proportion.

I think most intelligent (even "rural" ones) know that the average Nigerian person isn't trying to scam them !

I do agree that the "blackening up", as you called it, was wrong.

vote4pedro

shinny wrote: »

It reminds me of how many have reacted to Killinaskully. Comments like, "They're making an eejit out of Irish People" - Please, a bit of perspective here. It's taking something minuscule about a place, person etc and blowing that totally out of proportion.

I think most intelligent (even "rural" ones) know that the average Nigerian person isn't trying to scam them !

I do agree that the "blackening up", as you called it, was wrong.

I dont see how making a sweeping, crude and incredibly childish generalisation on African immigrants is "something miniscule". If it was would there really be needs for so much equality legislation and state bodies?

I agree, the vast vast majority of people watching tripe like that know well the average Nigerian isn't out to scam them, but when that is the one portrayal of an African immigrant on Irish screens (though I do tend to avoid RTE, perhaps there is such a character in the Clinic or Fair City or something) sends out an incredible message, that perhaps such a take on a Nigerian is an irreverant, acceptable, slight exaggeration on the truth. Which it isn't.

Havermeyer

It's so bad I couldn't even manage to sit through an ad for this tripe.

It's just so bad. How did this get recommissioned for new episodes?

lostexpectation

blacking up is okay to do when its funny and clever, its really made a come back in the past few years, harry enfield does a naughty mandela blacked, little britain had a browned up indian last week,( a bit pointless but the indian guy wasn't the butt of the joke), and then there yerman in tropic thunder well funny and clever.

when that culchie did for the that tg4 talent show it was an abomination

does kathlynn lynch pass the funny and clever benchmark eh no!!

podge018

nummnutts wrote: »

It's so bad I couldn't even manage to sit through an ad for this tripe.

It's just so bad. How did this get recommissioned for new episodes?

So you haven't even seen a full advert for this series but you know it's bad? How open-minded of you.

As for racist? She's taking the mick out of everybody. What about the character from Leitrim, are 'they all like that' down there, pushing their Honda 50s home and picking Mint Feasts off their crotch?

And who was blacked up? The Sheila character? She is a white woman from Tallaght, who is either caked in make-up or has decided herself to black her skin. She isn't supposed to be a black woman.

yaynay

subfreq wrote: »

How can the clip with the Egyptian and African be seen as anything but racism??

I have a high tolerance for comedy and black humour in particular but I thought that section was inexcusable...

Oh for fooks sake

Cork Exile

FFS if it were racist would the black actor have taken part in it. Same goes in the last series for the Egyptian actor.
I don't find the show hilarious, funny in parts and quite watchable for the cringeworthy moments. If you don't like it then use your remote. It just seems that there are certain folks here who will sit through a whole show that they don't like just so they can be offended.
VOTE4PEDRO
Were you just as offended by Robert Downey Jr in Tropic Thunder?

Its simple as this, you don't like the show, pick up your remote and change the channel.

ScumLord

I don't think she "blacked up" at all she was just wearing that ridiculous fake tan you see on pasty Irish women up and down the country. All her skits are making fun of the character. She was playing a horrible person that could only get a two faced immigrant (not saying all immigrants are two faced) that's only in it for the money. The Black guy hates her for what she and that's part of the joke.

SprostonGreen

The usual brigade of morons who are waiting to be offended come out in force. She is sending up the notion that all Nigerians are scam artists or the perception thereof.

Too many people shout raaaaaayycist if there is any reference to other cultures where it isnt lauding it up, maybe we should a red triangle in corner of the screen to notify them that it "may cause offence to some gobsh ites".

TvWatcher

i liked a lot of it.

The Leitrim character was nicely written ("Howiye Eilish, will you get out the condiments for a snake-bite and two packets a taytos"), Bernie was mostly funny, Sheila from Tallaght was pretty funny.

I'm usually first in line to be offended on behalf of those who probably don't need my bleeding heart liberalism to prop them up, and I'm usually first to bristle at perceived racist agendas.

On this occasion though I understood the joke to be on Sheila, not on the Nigerian character. The joke is that Sheila IS a racist, in that her conception of other cultures is based purely on stereotypes -- the Egyptian was a murderous philanderer, the Nigerian is a scam artist. In her well-meaning way, Sheila attempts to immerse herself in what she understands these cultures to be. Of course, she hasn't the first notion, and her unwitting boyfriends are casualties of her hamfisted attempts to become what they are not. I see from the promos that her next boyfriend is Spanish. I don't think it's racist, I think it's a satire on racism. On that level I found it quite amusing.

The yummy-drummy character didn't work for me, but all in all I thought this was a decent half hour and I laughed more than five times, which is 10 times less than I laughed at, say, The Office, but 5 times more than I laughed at Catherine Tate. It's not a masterpiece, but it's quite good.

yaynay

SprostonGreen wrote: »

The usual brigade of morons who are waiting to be offended come out in force. She is sending up the notion that all Nigerians are scam artists or the perception thereof.

Too many people shout raaaaaayycist if there is any reference to other cultures where it isnt lauding it up, maybe we should a red triangle in corner of the screen to notify them that it "may cause offence to some gobsh ites".

This is a great idea, but what will the complainers complain about then :rolleyes:.

People are too quick to use the 'racist' card.

Utopia Parkway

Leaving aside the racism hot potato for a minute and her depiction of travellers and foreigners the show really is spectacularly unfunny. Lowest common denominator comedy. Essentially a female Bernard Manning. Now fair enough even some people used to find Bernard Manning hilarious but this stuff is just so lousy I'm amazed anyone can find any merit in it. It's just downright bad.

vote4pedro

Cork Exile wrote: »

VOTE4PEDRO
Were you just as offended by Robert Downey Jr in Tropic Thunder?

Its simple as this, you don't like the show, pick up your remote and change the channel.

First off, yes I know I can change a channel. But for gods sake thats a pathetic argument to make if someone disagrees with you or criticises a show. Its a perfectly reasonable thing to watch a show, and then give out about it.

As for Robert Downey Jr in Tropic Thunder, I loved it. It was hilarious, clever, original, un-PC, well developed and simply great. Interestingly they took time to develop another black character, who is constantly antagonistic towards Downey Jr's idiot character. But yeah, I can see how you can compare that to that moron on RTE attempting her own rather clever and accutely accurate send up of African people living in Ireland.

podge018

vote4pedro wrote: »

First off, yes I know I can change a channel. But for gods sake thats a pathetic argument to make if someone disagrees with you or criticises a show. Its a perfectly reasonable thing to watch a show, and then give out about it.

As for Robert Downey Jr in Tropic Thunder, I loved it. It was hilarious, clever, original, un-PC, well developed and simply great. Interestingly they took time to develop another black character, who is constantly antagonistic towards Downey Jr's idiot character. But yeah, I can see how you can compare that to that moron on RTE attempting her own rather clever and accutely accurate send up of African people living in Ireland.

Suppose there was nothing stereotypical about the Mexican character and family you've based you're username on?

Aidric

I think this show is good fun overall, a bit hit and miss. There is some good writing in it though, some great quote ables.

ianrush

There's very little difference between what she is doing and anything brendan o'carroll does with his Mrs Brown garbage, which is about as damning as I can get. The only reason this got recommissioned was because the roaring twenties was even worse...

elshambo

Same problem all RTE comedy has, lack of writers
Why? At least 2 reasons
1.RTE chased most of them away years ago with the "who you related to again?" way they hire(d) people
2. Good writing takes time and money

When was the last time an RTE comedy looked like it had either time or money spent on it?

paulieeye

This thread is more entertaining than the show..maybe that was her plan!!