O.J Simpson Is Finally found Guilty!

LAS VEGAS, Nevada (CNN) -- Former gridiron great O.J. Simpson was found guilty of all 12 counts in the armed robbery of two sports memorabilia dealers at a Las Vegas, Nevada, casino hotel last year.

The jury reached the verdict 13 years to the day O.J. Simpson was acquitted of two murders.

Simpson, 61, and his co-defendant Clarence "C.J." Stewart, 54, were charged with a dozen offenses stemming from the alleged sports memorabilia heist.

Stewart was also found guilty of the same charges as Simpson. Both men will likely spend the rest of their lives in prison.


http://edition.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/10/04/oj.simpson.verdict/index.html

Video of verdict reading - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z3bIG2RF8M



This is wonderful news,Hope the prick gets life.

mikemac

Deleted User wrote: »

This is wonderful news,Hope the prick gets life.

+1

Quick google search shows charges including criminal conspiracy, kidnapping, assault, robbery, and using a deadly weapon.

He's gonna service life for this, no clever lawyer can get him out of this sentance this time

Edit: Clever lawyer idea in Post 4 :cool:

The Mighty Ken

Sounds incredibly dubious to be perfectly honest. As guilty as I think Simpson is of the murders 13 years ago, this whole thing wreaks of set up.

mikemac

Wait a second. I'm no lawyer but my extensive knowledge of John Grisham novels shows this might be grounds for an appeal

the jury of nine men and three women, none of them African-American

Demographics of Las Vegas from wikipedia

The racial makeup of the city was 69.86% White, 10.36% African American, 0.75% Native American, 4.78% Asian, 0.45% Pacific Islander, 9.75% from other races, and 4.05% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 23.61% of the population.

A jury of your peers, hmmmmmmmm

Btw this the shoddiest law argument you've ever seen, no lawyer would quote facts from wikipedia

Quick search

"The 6th Amendment guarantees the accused the right to a speedy and public trial by an impartial jury. The phrase "jury of one's peers" is not included in the Amendment.

A jury of one's peers does not mean a black defendant must be tried by an all black jury or a female defendant must be tried by an all woman panel. The objective is to select an impartial jury from a randomly selected juror pool who will be fair, listen to the facts of the case, and render a just verdict based on the evidence"

mikemac

I thought it would be roughly representative of the local demographics and I don't think I'm incorrect on this.

Hollywood has a lot to answer for! Those lawyers are always trying to relocate juries to different counties so they can get their preferred ratio of jurors.

A Time to Kill is an example of this and yes, it's a John Grisham novel too.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117913/

Lirange

O.J. was acquitted by an all black jury thirteen years ago.

Fault the defence team in both instances. Both prosecution and defence can dismiss potential jurors prior to the case without providing reason. Both sides typically use this to leverage the panel of jurors so that it's not tilted too much to their disadvantage. High profile cases in America tend to dismiss large numbers before settling on the final twelve and alternate.

CHD

Karma is finally gona get em

arybvtcw0eolkf

I'm absolutely delighted.

OJ's gonna be someone's prison bitch

So this means no more Naked Gun movies?

Mairt

Mairt wrote: »

I'm absolutely delighted.

OJ's gonna be someone's prison bitch

+1

He'll be walking like John Wayne after a week hopefully

Jimbo

If he gets life, do you think he'll finally admit to the murders?

irish_bob

seeing that he got off 13 yrs ago , this means he had no previous convictions when on trial for this crime , purely from a legal point of view , a life sentence would seem incredibly harsh for armed robbery , no one in this country ever done more than 10 for such an offense

mikemac

Wasn't just armed robbery irish_bob.

It was criminal conspiracy, kidnapping, assault, robbery, and using a deadly weapon.
I suppose all of these come under armed robbery but it's not you or me who decide what charges to pursue

Sure in California, you can get the death penalty for kidnapping alone.
This was Nevada though.

Auvers

irish_bob wrote: »

no one in this country ever done more than 10 for such an offense

well thankfully its not in this country

Hopefully he will get life and be thrown in a cell with Big Bubba :cool:

it would a small bit of justice for the family's of the people he brutally killed

eddiet610

Ah yes but conviction of Kidnapping alone in the states can be automatic life sentance......

Mr. Presentable

irish_bob wrote: »

seeing that he got off 13 yrs ago , this means he had no previous convictions when on trial for this crime , purely from a legal point of view , a life sentence would seem incredibly harsh for armed robbery , no one in this country ever done more than 10 for such an offense

Not a life sentence per se, but at age 61 he could get 20 years and that'd do it!

Mossy Monk

Auvers wrote: »

it would a small bit of justice for the family's of the people he brutally killed

Wasn't he acquitted of that?

arybvtcw0eolkf

eddiet610 wrote: »

Ah yes but conviction of Kidnapping alone in the states can be automatic life sentance......

In some states you can get the death sentence for it too, it came about after the Lindberg baby kidnapping.

Sharpshooter

l hear the inmates love their OJ first thing in the morning.

Auvers

Mossy Monk wrote: »

Wasn't he acquitted of that?

dont care what the jury said he was guilty as fcuk

EamonnKeane

Mairt wrote: »

I'm absolutely delighted.

OJ's gonna be someone's prison bitch

is rape funny now?

dresden8

Depends on the context. In this case, yes. This is After Hours after all.

evad_lhorg

You see. This, is Chewbacca!

javaboy

micmclo wrote: »

Wait a second. I'm no lawyer but my extensive knowledge of John Grisham novels shows this might be grounds for an appeal

the jury of nine men and three women, none of them African-American

Demographics of Las Vegas from wikipedia

The racial makeup of the city was 69.86% White, 10.36% African American, 0.75% Native American, 4.78% Asian, 0.45% Pacific Islander, 9.75% from other races, and 4.05% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 23.61% of the population.

A jury of your peers, hmmmmmmmm

Btw this the shoddiest law argument you've ever seen, no lawyer would quote facts from wikipedia

micmclo wrote: »

I thought it would be roughly representative of the local demographics and I don't think I'm incorrect on this.

Who says the jury was not roughly representative of the demographics? There's 12 people on a jury and roughly 1 in 10 people in the area are African American. That's nowhere near high enough a number to guarantee a black juror. Sure by that logic, with only 4.78% of the population, there should never be an Asian juror.

Pure nonsense and I sincerely hope that's not actually considered grounds for an appeal.

4zn76tysfajdxp

EamonnKeane wrote: »

is rape funny now?

Is it not?

Mossy Monk

Auvers wrote: »

dont care what the jury said he was guilty as fcuk

Nice to know that you have the final word on all things.

javaboy

Auvers wrote: »

dont care what the jury said he was guilty as fcuk

As guilty as fcuk: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/1258961.stm

tech77

Mossy Monk wrote: »

Wasn't he acquitted of that?

LMAO.

MooseJam

good news

coyote6

Watch the video of the verdict being read. It shows O.J.'s expressions. You have to wonder what is going through his head. I can imagine his twisted mind was trying to find a way out. Trying to find a way to survive, manipulate and twist the situation to his advantage. Watch the video closely observing his body language and it is pretty interesting. As slippery as O.J. is I wouldn't be surprised if he somehow, someway got out of this too.

Also watch the lawyers as he is being handcuffed. They are looking for anything they can to point their fingers at in an appeal. "They cuffed him too tight! Brutality!".

Weasels!

KerranJast

I guess Karma really does exist. I'd say the majority of the African American community in the States no longer have any time for him after his infamous book. While its refreshing to see justice finally catch up with him I still personally blame those racist ****s in the LAPD for screwing up the original murder trial and denying those poor families justice. Hopefully this will be some comfort to them.

4zn76tysfajdxp

coyote6 wrote: »

Watch the video of the verdict being read. It shows O.J.'s expressions. You have to wonder what is going through his head. I can imagine his twisted mind was trying to find a way out. Trying to find a way to survive, manipulate and twist the situation to his advantage.

Who wouldn't though, in fairness? I have no time for the man either but if I was sent to prison I'd try and find a way out of it, even if I was guilty. Hell, most people would.

Latchy

You would think that with OJ getting away with the orginal murder accusation of which i am with the ' he done it brigade ' he would have crawled off to relitive obscurity but even the patience of the american legal / justice system has it's limits ,even with has - being hollywood stars .

arybvtcw0eolkf

latchyco wrote: »

You would think that with OJ getting away with the orginal murder accusation of which i am with the ' he done it brigade ' he would have crawled off to relitive obscurity but even the patience of the american legal / justice system has it's limits ,even with has - being hollywood stars .

He's just a bad bastard and has shown his true colours.

Latchy

Mairt wrote: »

He's just a bad bastard and has shown his true colours.

Yes , fcuking evil twat

Terry

I blame Leslie Nielsen for making him hit his head so many times.

tallaght01

I think it's really really important in society that if you're acquited by a jury, then you're innocent. It's so easy to just say "ah yea but he did it. We all know that".

That aside, I was listening to some of the legal guys on CNN today. They reckon that there could be grounds for appeal based on the fact that there was apparently some discord amongst the jurors. They were offered the chance to go home to rest, as they'd been there so long, but they declined.

So, the word is that his team are thinking that there could have been one or 2 jurors who thought he was innocent. But they may have been persuaded to change their mind when they were exhausted.

This has been grounds for a retrial before in other cases. So, who knows.

kraggy

It's mad the way it's 15 years exactly since he was acquitted of murder.

Talk about fate giving ya a kick up the arse.

Latchy

Many will be glad to see him to go down for as long as possibe .

Specialy if he's guilty .Justice must be served

Overheal

kraggy wrote: »

It's mad the way it's 15 years exactly since he was acquitted of murder.

Talk about fate giving ya a kick up the arse.

did you read the original post?

kraggy

Overheal wrote: »

did you read the original post?

I'm so sorry Overheal. I mistyped it. Will you ever forgive me?

God help you if you ever make a mistake while constructing a post. I'll come down on you like a ton of bricks.

And your little performance in the thread during the week about the guy who was looking for the Jetset for the sick kid was duly noted by many.

Have you nothing better to do with your time?

pablomakaveli

I heard his lawyers are going to appeal on the fact that the jury was all-white. basically they are assuming that all potential white jury members are racists who hate blacks and will find any black person guilty which is racist in itself.

this kind of attitude in america is what is damaging race relations. if an african-american or someone from another ethnic minority cries racism every time something doesnt go their way it will just increase tensions and when a genuine victim of racism comes forward they are less likely to be believed.

CHD

eddiet610 wrote: »

Ah yes but conviction of Kidnapping alone in the states can be automatic life sentance......

You signed up just to say that. Did it feel good?

mikemac

javaboy wrote: »

Who says the jury was not roughly representative of the demographics? There's 12 people on a jury and roughly 1 in 10 people in the area are African American. That's nowhere near high enough a number to guarantee a black juror. Sure by that logic, with only 4.78% of the population, there should never be an Asian juror.

Pure nonsense and I sincerely hope that's not actually considered grounds for an appeal.

Hey Javaboy
First of all I reckon you're one of the funniest posters on boards and while you don't have a witty sig at the moment, they are always good for a laugh.
Fair play

You ripped three of my posts to shreds
It's already confirmed he is going to appeal here.
This is After Hours, not the legal forum and I did say it was a shoddy legal argument. And yes, I hope he gets a life sentance but just posting to defend my posts

Fanny Cradock

jimbo78 wrote: »

If he gets life, do you think he'll finally admit to the murders?

He more or less admitted it in his book IF I DID IT in which he details how he *cough* hypothetically *cough* would have committed the murders. The Goldman family were later granted the rights to the book and have coined it in with some *cough* of the the profits going to the Ronald Goldman foundation for Justice. The parents of Nicole Brown didn't want the book published.

Overheal

kraggy wrote: »

ead during the week about the guy who was looking for the Jetset for the sick kid was duly noted by many.

This is After Hours, forgive me for cracking a joke. I'll be sure to run them all by you in the future lest they offend anyone, Mastah.

http://www.ericdsnider.com/images/easterbunnycry.JPG

Overheal

micmclo wrote: »

It's already confirmed he is going to appeal here.

I love the photo. But it mentions nothing about them appealing on a grounds of the jury being all white, or even racist, or even prejudicial for that matter. The appeal is based on the behavior of the detectives in the case.

Capt'n Midnight

Mossy Monk wrote: »

Wasn't he acquitted of that?

http://edition.cnn.com/US/OJ/simpson.civil.trial/index.html

oj

O.J. Simpson is liable for the 1994 death of Ronald Goldman and committed battery against his ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson, a civil trial jury ruled February 4, 1997.

The Superior Court jury awarded $8.5 million in compensatory damages to the Goldman family and to Ron Goldman's biological mother.

The jury ruled against Simpson on each of the eight technical questions of liability it was asked to consider. It effectively found Simpson liable for his ex-wife's death, though the Brown family did not seek such a verdict.

oh and $25m in punitive damages

Capt'n Midnight

micmclo wrote: »

A jury of your peers, hmmmmmmmm

so if a Muslin or Othordox Jew were put on trial for something like marrying a forth wife or stoning someone for turning on a radio on the wrong day would it be right to only have a jury of like minded persons. ??

Hey why not pick a jury from death row for two time murderers ??

Rented Mule

Overheal wrote: »

I love the photo. But it mentions nothing about them appealing on a grounds of the jury being all white, or even racist, or even prejudicial for that matter. The appeal is based on the behavior of the detectives in the case.

It wouldn't be an OJ trial without them playing the race card.

The only difference in this trial is he didn't (almost) cut the head off of two white people.

You have to realise that OJ was considered a 'sellout' before the double murder because he left his wife for a 'trophy white woman'. He was held in contempt by the black community until that trial when they accused OJ of being framed because of his celebrity/colour.

The absolute irony of the story is that it was 13 years to the day that he was found not guilty of the double murder.