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O.J Simpson Is Finally found Guilty!

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  • #32
    KerranJast
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭KerranJast


    I guess Karma really does exist. I'd say the majority of the African American community in the States no longer have any time for him after his infamous book. While its refreshing to see justice finally catch up with him I still personally blame those racist ****s in the LAPD for screwing up the original murder trial and denying those poor families justice. Hopefully this will be some comfort to them.


  • #33
    4zn76tysfajdxp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    coyote6 wrote: »
    Watch the video of the verdict being read. It shows O.J.'s expressions. You have to wonder what is going through his head. I can imagine his twisted mind was trying to find a way out. Trying to find a way to survive, manipulate and twist the situation to his advantage.

    Who wouldn't though, in fairness? I have no time for the man either but if I was sent to prison I'd try and find a way out of it, even if I was guilty. Hell, most people would.


  • #34
    Latchy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    You would think that with OJ getting away with the orginal murder accusation of which i am with the ' he done it brigade ' he would have crawled off to relitive obscurity but even the patience of the american legal / justice system has it's limits ,even with has - being hollywood stars .


  • #35
    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    latchyco wrote: »
    You would think that with OJ getting away with the orginal murder accusation of which i am with the ' he done it brigade ' he would have crawled off to relitive obscurity but even the patience of the american legal / justice system has it's limits ,even with has - being hollywood stars .

    He's just a bad bastard and has shown his true colours.


  • #36
    Latchy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Mairt wrote: »
    He's just a bad bastard and has shown his true colours.
    Yes , fcuking evil twat


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  • #37
    Terry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,073 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    I blame Leslie Nielsen for making him hit his head so many times.


  • #38
    tallaght01
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,778 ✭✭✭tallaght01


    I think it's really really important in society that if you're acquited by a jury, then you're innocent. It's so easy to just say "ah yea but he did it. We all know that".

    That aside, I was listening to some of the legal guys on CNN today. They reckon that there could be grounds for appeal based on the fact that there was apparently some discord amongst the jurors. They were offered the chance to go home to rest, as they'd been there so long, but they declined.

    So, the word is that his team are thinking that there could have been one or 2 jurors who thought he was innocent. But they may have been persuaded to change their mind when they were exhausted.

    This has been grounds for a retrial before in other cases. So, who knows.


  • #39
    kraggy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    It's mad the way it's 15 years exactly since he was acquitted of murder.

    Talk about fate giving ya a kick up the arse.


  • #40
    Latchy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Many will be glad to see him to go down for as long as possibe .

    Specialy if he's guilty .Justice must be served ;)


  • #41
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    kraggy wrote: »
    It's mad the way it's 15 years exactly since he was acquitted of murder.

    Talk about fate giving ya a kick up the arse.
    did you read the original post?


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  • #42
    kraggy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    Overheal wrote: »
    did you read the original post?

    I'm so sorry Overheal. I mistyped it. Will you ever forgive me?

    God help you if you ever make a mistake while constructing a post. I'll come down on you like a ton of bricks.

    And your little performance in the thread during the week about the guy who was looking for the Jetset for the sick kid was duly noted by many.

    Have you nothing better to do with your time?


  • #43
    pablomakaveli
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    I heard his lawyers are going to appeal on the fact that the jury was all-white. basically they are assuming that all potential white jury members are racists who hate blacks and will find any black person guilty which is racist in itself.

    this kind of attitude in america is what is damaging race relations. if an african-american or someone from another ethnic minority cries racism every time something doesnt go their way it will just increase tensions and when a genuine victim of racism comes forward they are less likely to be believed.


  • #44
    CHD
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,956 ✭✭✭CHD


    eddiet610 wrote: »
    Ah yes but conviction of Kidnapping alone in the states can be automatic life sentance......
    You signed up just to say that. Did it feel good?


  • #45
    mikemac
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,967 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    javaboy wrote: »
    Who says the jury was not roughly representative of the demographics? There's 12 people on a jury and roughly 1 in 10 people in the area are African American. That's nowhere near high enough a number to guarantee a black juror. Sure by that logic, with only 4.78% of the population, there should never be an Asian juror.

    Pure nonsense and I sincerely hope that's not actually considered grounds for an appeal.

    Hey Javaboy
    First of all I reckon you're one of the funniest posters on boards and while you don't have a witty sig at the moment, they are always good for a laugh.
    Fair play :)

    You ripped three of my posts to shreds
    It's already confirmed he is going to appeal here.
    This is After Hours, not the legal forum and I did say it was a shoddy legal argument. And yes, I hope he gets a life sentance but just posting to defend my posts :)


  • #46
    Fanny Cradock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,240 ✭✭✭✭Fanny Cradock


    jimbo78 wrote: »
    If he gets life, do you think he'll finally admit to the murders?

    He more or less admitted it in his book IF I DID IT in which he details how he *cough* hypothetically *cough* would have committed the murders. The Goldman family were later granted the rights to the book and have coined it in with some *cough* of the the profits going to the Ronald Goldman foundation for Justice. The parents of Nicole Brown didn't want the book published.


  • #47
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    kraggy wrote: »
    ead during the week about the guy who was looking for the Jetset for the sick kid was duly noted by many.
    This is After Hours, forgive me for cracking a joke. I'll be sure to run them all by you in the future lest they offend anyone, Mastah.

    http://www.ericdsnider.com/images/easterbunnycry.JPG


  • #48
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    micmclo wrote: »
    It's already confirmed he is going to appeal here.
    I love the photo. But it mentions nothing about them appealing on a grounds of the jury being all white, or even racist, or even prejudicial for that matter. The appeal is based on the behavior of the detectives in the case.


  • #49
    Capt'n Midnight
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 99,701 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Mossy Monk wrote: »
    Wasn't he acquitted of that?
    http://edition.cnn.com/US/OJ/simpson.civil.trial/index.html
    oj

    O.J. Simpson is liable for the 1994 death of Ronald Goldman and committed battery against his ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson, a civil trial jury ruled February 4, 1997.

    The Superior Court jury awarded $8.5 million in compensatory damages to the Goldman family and to Ron Goldman's biological mother.

    The jury ruled against Simpson on each of the eight technical questions of liability it was asked to consider. It effectively found Simpson liable for his ex-wife's death, though the Brown family did not seek such a verdict.
    oh and $25m in punitive damages


  • #50
    Capt'n Midnight
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    micmclo wrote: »
    A jury of your peers, hmmmmmmmm :confused:
    so if a Muslin or Othordox Jew were put on trial for something like marrying a forth wife or stoning someone for turning on a radio on the wrong day would it be right to only have a jury of like minded persons. ??

    Hey why not pick a jury from death row for two time murderers ??


  • #51
    Rented Mule
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    Overheal wrote: »
    I love the photo. But it mentions nothing about them appealing on a grounds of the jury being all white, or even racist, or even prejudicial for that matter. The appeal is based on the behavior of the detectives in the case.

    It wouldn't be an OJ trial without them playing the race card.

    The only difference in this trial is he didn't (almost) cut the head off of two white people.

    You have to realise that OJ was considered a 'sellout' before the double murder because he left his wife for a 'trophy white woman'. He was held in contempt by the black community until that trial when they accused OJ of being framed because of his celebrity/colour.

    The absolute irony of the story is that it was 13 years to the day that he was found not guilty of the double murder.


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  • #52
    MooseJam
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    13 unlucky for some


  • #53
    mikemac
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,967 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Capt'n Midnight wrote: »
    so if a Muslin or Othordox Jew were put on trial for something like marrying a forth wife or stoning someone for turning on a radio on the wrong day would it be right to only have a jury of like minded persons. ??

    Hey why not pick a jury from death row for two time murderers ??

    Jaysus, another person misreading or too lazy my three posts from this morning.
    I never posted that murderers should be tried by murderers or muslims should be only be tried by Muslims.

    I posted that since the trial was in Nevada I was interested to know if the jury was a fair representation of the area.
    Nothing more, read the posts before misquoting me!

    I posted it wasn't a legal argument, in fact I posted it was a shoddy legal argument. just an idea and now I've every wannabe internet lawyer quoting me as if they know Nevada state law


  • #54
    Capt'n Midnight
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    micmclo wrote: »
    Jaysus, another person misreading or too lazy my three posts from this morning
    it was directed at the US justice system
    why does the jury have to be representative of the local area , should it not be representative of the nation as a whole, and colour shouldn't really matter since all the citizens are equal. Yes they should vet jurors for bias, but cherry picking is crazy , anyone remember how many questions the OJ jurors had to fill in before the first trial ? http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/simpson/jurypage.html
    Attorneys can exercise their peremptory challenges for almost any reason--body language, appearance, dissatisfaction with answers--but not for reasons of race or sex
    That black woman's hair is too long ;)


  • #55
    giggsy664
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭giggsy664


    micmclo wrote: »
    Wasn't just armed robbery irish_bob.

    It was criminal conspiracy, kidnapping, assault, robbery, and using a deadly weapon.
    I suppose all of these come under armed robbery but it's not you or me who decide what charges to pursue

    Sure in California, you can get the death penalty for kidnapping alone.
    This was Nevada though.

    In Nevada, if you make a person move 10 or more yards against their will, you KIDNAPPED them.


  • #56
    Rented Mule
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    This is an unfortunate verdict for Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman as this will surely interrupt OJ’s search for the real killers.


  • #57
    Eoin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,288 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    CHD wrote: »
    You signed up just to say that. Did it feel good?

    I'm sure your first post here was much better?


  • #58
    Capt'n Midnight
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 99,701 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Rented Mule wrote: »
    This is an unfortunate verdict for Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman as this will surely interrupt OJ’s search for the real killers.
    http://www.theonion.com/content/node/65037


  • #59
    javaboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    micmclo wrote: »
    Hey Javaboy
    First of all I reckon you're one of the funniest posters on boards and while you don't have a witty sig at the moment, they are always good for a laugh.
    Fair play :)

    Oh you! /flutter eyelashes :o
    You ripped three of my posts to shreds
    It's already confirmed he is going to appeal here.
    This is After Hours, not the legal forum and I did say it was a shoddy legal argument. And yes, I hope he gets a life sentance but just posting to defend my posts :)

    It wasn't meant as an attack on your post exactly. And I noticed you did say it was a shoddy legal argument and were basing your arguments on John Grisham novels and Wikipedia sources, so I knew you weren't being entirely serious about it. :)

    But the sad thing is that the composition of the jury is actually being considered as a basis for an appeal. That was what I was actually getting at.


  • #60
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    MooseJam wrote: »
    13 unlucky for some
    better watch out when that black man crosses your path though.


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  • #61
    GirlInterrupted
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    tallaght01 wrote: »
    I think it's really really important in society that if you're acquited by a jury, then you're innocent. It's so easy to just say "ah yea but he did it. We all know that".....

    I would agree with this, and I also consider it important that society recognises that when a person has been found guilty and serves their term in prison, that their debt to society is paid and the slate wiped clean.

    Unless/until they prove otherwise, we should assume that people are rehabilitated. Everyone makes mistakes.


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