X -Music

PaulBrewer

Has anyone heard about the New 15,000 sq feet X-MUSIC store near the Red Cow.

It looks like it's going to be some operation. There'll be a Fender Store and a Roland Planet within it.

Should be interesting for the retail sector here .....

fitz

Yeah, got a press release about it sent onto me by a friend.
Looks like it'll be something like a Thomann superstore...
Bad news for shops in town.

PaulBrewer

fitz wrote: »

Yeah, got a press release about it sent onto me by a friend.
Looks like it'll be something like a Thomann superstore...
Bad news for shops in town.

Good News for Consumers, more importantly. I'm looking forward to them doing well.

fitz

Absolutely Paul, hopefully they'll be competative with their pricing in comparison to the online options. I've no sympathy for the city centre shops either tbh. They've had long enough to adjust their business models. If this hurts them, they've no-one to blame but themselves.

Savman

PaulBrewer wrote: »

Has anyone heard about the New 15,000 sq feet X-MUSIC store near the Red Cow.

It looks like it's going to be some operation. There'll be a Fender Store and a Roland Planet within it.

Should be interesting for the retail sector here .....

News to me?? This type of thing has been long overdue IMHO. Just hope it's not a massive let down.

edit: seems to be happening alright http://www.xmusic.ie/

PaulBrewer

fitz wrote: »

They've had long enough to adjust their business models. If this hurts them, they've no-one to blame but themselves.

Agreed.

TelePaul

Hmmmm....let's just hope they last.

frobisher

Woah! This will be very interesting!

dav nagle

1. Great news for many reasons:

I went into 3 guitar shops in the city and rang a guitar repair guy and not one had a plastic top for my treble switcher on my telecaster.

Pathetic

Any studio audio gear in town is definitely over priced rubbish

News:
Monster music just closed down and is in liquidation

Musician Inc are also setting up a new store in the Red cow!

artvandulet

dav nagle wrote: »

News:
Monster music just closed down and is in liquidation

Musician Inc are also setting up a new store in the Red cow!

Wow, Monster music were still open??
Is the Musician Inc shop at the Red Cow in addition to Drury St.? I see it says they are expanding on their window. I just thought they were making the shop bigger.

PaulBrewer

dav nagle wrote: »

Musician Inc are also setting up a new store in the Red cow!

Musician Inc's management is involved in X-Music ..... and apparently it's 23,000 sq ft on 3 floors in two adjoining units...

artvandulet

PaulBrewer wrote: »

Musician Inc's management is involved in X-Music ..... and apparently it's 23,000 sq ft on 3 floors in two adjoining units...

Wow! Fair play to them

Savman

PaulBrewer wrote: »

Musician Inc's management is involved in X-Music ..... and apparently it's 23,000 sq ft on 3 floors in two adjoining units...

Hmm very knowledgeable on the subject...whaddya selling! :D

artvandulet

A-ha....

From http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055369309&page=3


Hi folks, just found this thread. I'm Steve from Musician Inc and I'll clear it all up for you. After 20 years of trading, we're expanding the store. 27 Drury St will be sold and number 26 will reopen as X-Music. We will also have a 23,000 square ft super store out at the Redcow. Fear not, it's only about 20 mins out of town on the Luas and extremely handy if on the M50 (we also have plenty of free parking). We will have a comprehensive Drum department, studio room, stage for gear demos/instore gigs, a coffee area so your folks don't go crazy while you play and Ireland's first 'Planet Roland'. The guitar floor will be somewhere in the region of 10,000 square ft and will give us the space to stock a better range of the good stuff. There will also be a web site to match: www.x-music.ie All prices will be the same, in store and on the web. Our current launch date is the 3rd and 4th of October to coincide with the Music Show in the RDS. In the meantime,all of us here at Musician Inc would like to thank you all for your support over the last 20 years and look forward to seeing you in the biggest music shop in Ireland and the UK.

Stephen O'Brien
Sales Manager
Musician Inc/X Music

PaulBrewer

I was out there today!

We'll probably be supplying them with sE mics, Audient stuff and Auralex.

I'd heard it was going to be a big deal but the place is proper big! I was very impressed.

They're just going through their snag list at the moment so there's no stock there or anything, I believe they're opening in October.

I'd not really heard much bar a few rumours 'til the last couple of weeks - quite a few staff have been half-inched from shops in town.

PaulBrewer

artvandulet wrote: »

A-ha....

From http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055369309&page=3


Hi folks, just found this thread. I'm Steve from Musician Inc and I'll clear it all up for you. After 20 years of trading, we're expanding the store. 27 Drury St will be sold and number 26 will reopen as X-Music. We will also have a 23,000 square ft super store out at the Redcow. Fear not, it's only about 20 mins out of town on the Luas and extremely handy if on the M50 (we also have plenty of free parking). We will have a comprehensive Drum department, studio room, stage for gear demos/instore gigs, a coffee area so your folks don't go crazy while you play and Ireland's first 'Planet Roland'. The guitar floor will be somewhere in the region of 10,000 square ft and will give us the space to stock a better range of the good stuff. There will also be a web site to match: www.x-music.ie All prices will be the same, in store and on the web. Our current launch date is the 3rd and 4th of October to coincide with the Music Show in the RDS. In the meantime,all of us here at Musician Inc would like to thank you all for your support over the last 20 years and look forward to seeing you in the biggest music shop in Ireland and the UK.

Stephen O'Brien
Sales Manager
Musician Inc/X Music

I remember him from when I was working in Da Maker.... nice chap.

dav nagle

PaulBrewer wrote: »

I remember him from when I was working in Da Maker.... nice chap.

He is a legend, great guitar tech and as has been serving me for 17 years

jtsuited

i'll be delighted if they can compete with 'the internet'.

still be a nice place to try stuff out if not.

Savman

One can only hope they don't aim absolutely everything to the el cheapo chrimbo guitar pack end of the market.

Sounds very promising though.

dav nagle

The UK (Digital village) is an excellent example of people who know their stuff and will help, refund without any nonsense. I hope this new shop has absolutely a no nonsense policy. By that I mean people in their correct positions and that the overall staff are well educated on every area. Great customer service goes a very long way.

PaulBrewer

dav nagle wrote: »

The UK (Digital village) is an excellent example of people who know their stuff and will help, refund without any nonsense.

They don't sort you out at half six on a Thursday evening though, do they ....?

TelePaul

Lads, it sounds great and all...but is the demand really there? Think of the inventory costs (if it's going to be all they say it is)

dav nagle

PaulBrewer wrote: »

They don't sort you out at half six on a Thursday evening though, do they ....?

No they don't!
I take my hat off too you!!


You never miss a beat do you Paul

At the same time I am sure they stay open on Friday!! :eek:

PaulBrewer

TelePaul wrote: »

but is the demand really there?

They seem to think so, it's kind of up to you guys isn't it?

PaulBrewer

dav nagle wrote: »

No they don't!
I take my hat off too you!!


You never miss a beat do you Paul

At the same time I am sure they stay open on Friday!! :eek:

As are we!

TelePaul

PaulBrewer wrote: »

They seem to think so, it's kind of up to you guys isn't it?

I think it's a matter of scale. I don't care how big they are, if I can buy non-essential gear for cheaper off thomann, I probably will, you know?

Scale is one of those funny things. I don't think they'll manage to leverage scale economies...not like, say, Guitar Centre.

PaulBrewer

I admire them putting their money where their mouths are, especially in this climate.

It would be good for all of us if they succeed.

Rockshamrover

Stephen, Will there be a special discount for boards members?:D

Will there be any opening day specials etc

TelePaul

PaulBrewer wrote: »

It would be good for all of us if they succeed.

The only reason I havn't visited your shop is because I don't have 5K to drop on pro-audio gear!

PaulBrewer

TelePaul wrote: »

The only reason I havn't visited your shop is because I don't have 5K to drop on pro-audio gear!

All in the fullness of time!

TelePaul

PaulBrewer wrote: »

All in the fullness of time!

Let's hope so! I remember I was in Goodwins on Capel Street one day - bout four years ago - looking for a condensor mic. I think they ahd some entry-level M-Audio stuff. The guy was like "Listen, if you're serious about this, just go to the Audio Warehouse." I googled you and figured my budget probably didn't stretch that far!

PaulBrewer

TelePaul wrote: »

L The guy was like "Listen, if you're serious about this, just go to the Audio Warehouse."

So wha ya sayin? .... You ain't serious???;)

TelePaul

PaulBrewer wrote: »

So wha ya sayin? .... You ain't serious???;)

Yeah pretty much. I track in a conservatory with wood floors and a glass ceiling. I figured Auralex was an oral contraceptive. I'm the anti-sound engineer!

PaulBrewer

TelePaul wrote: »

I'm the anti-sound engineer!

There are loads of those!

James Hunt

Hope it works out for them. It's good to buy local, or retail - or whatever you want to call it. Price is the overriding factor though, if it's hundreds cheaper on the web, then usually that's the end of it.

bedbugs

Bring it on. If it's cheaper than buying with Dolphin, I'll gladly switch.

Although, it is handy getting the VAT zero rated from the transaction when importing stuff...
hmmm

studiorat

bedbugs wrote: »

Although, it is handy getting the VAT zero rated from the transaction when importing stuff...
hmmm

good for the cash flow alright. But you can claim it back!

Red Sleeping Beauty

TelePaul wrote: »

Lads, it sounds great and all...but is the demand really there? Think of the inventory costs (if it's going to be all they say it is)

I'd assume that the demand is there because there's a large amount of people ordering online because they can't get what they want in town and at the prices they want. I'm assuming that Xmusic will be buying in more stock meaning cheaper prices and more variety or whatever. It's certainly very ambitous.

fitz

If the prices aren't competing with online, this is just gonna become a place where people have a larger range of stuff to try out before they buy it for cheaper on the web. I hope it isn't gonna go that way...

Red Sleeping Beauty

fitz wrote: »

If the prices aren't competing with online, this is just gonna become a place where people have a larger range of stuff to try out before they buy it for cheaper on the web. I hope it isn't gonna go that way...

Musician's prices were never cast in stone, you could bargain with them a fair bit and of course regulars would get a few quid off. I reckon it'll be like that with this new store.

fitz

That goes for every music shop though.
They've all had a margin they were prepared to trim to make the sale.
Point is, unless they can get within a reasonable distance of internet prices, people are still gonna buy online.

hexagramer

even if there prices are the same as going into town i think they may do well considering good promotion, and a good name

if the townies can go for this long i hope this store can. i really wud love this place to be my first thought to pop into mind when i want to buy stuff.

if anything, DEATH TO WALTONS!

condra

I think kids from miles around will travel to check out the store if it's well promoted. I imagine guitar kids ("the pokemon generation" as I call them) will be an important target market for them.

If their prices are comparable with Waltons, I'll do the same for them as I do for Waltons, i.e give them none of my business, and recommend people avoid them.

If they can be within 10% of Thomanns prices, I'll probably use them.
I don't mind paying a *little* extra, to demo a product and buy it the same day.

dav nagle

I have sent so many kids to musician they owe me bigtime!

Red Sleeping Beauty

womoma wrote: »

I think kids from miles around will travel to check out the store if it's well promoted. I imagine guitar kids ("the pokemon generation" as I call them) will be an important target market for them.

If their prices are comparable with Waltons, I'll do the same for them as I do for Waltons, i.e give them none of my business, and recommend people avoid them.

If they can be within 10% of Thomanns prices, I'll probably use them.
I don't mind paying a *little* extra, to demo a product and buy it the same day.

Within 10% of Thomann's prices would be good, there's a few UK shops that are in fact cheaper on some gear. I always thought the lads in Musician were a bit more than just a saturday afternoon creche for the pokemon kids bashing out their own nasty rendition of the solo from One by Metallica

GobBass

hexagramer wrote: »

even if there prices are the same as going into town i think they may do well considering good promotion, and a good name

if the townies can go for this long i hope this store can. i really wud love this place to be my first thought to pop into mind when i want to buy stuff.

if anything, DEATH TO WALTONS!

I would agree with you largely except for one small matter....a Gibson Les Paul Baritone down 800 big ones to just 1039 (which is insanely tempting,makes me buy scratchcards) in their 'sale' or whatever they deem suffecient to call lowering their simply outrageous prices.:P

...I live five minutes from X and I'll be a frequenter alright.Low-end crunch.....just imagine if they got Sandberg basses...highly unlikely but worth a shot at least...(drooling)


(How's that for a first comment? :D

PaulBrewer

alan dunne 27 wrote: »

Within 10% of Thomann's prices would be good,

Would it? Would you pay 1100 when Mr.T sells for 1000?

Savman

Will X Music be offering VAT free sales to registered individuals I wonder...I'd much rather not pay it at source than have to claim it back in January or whatever.

PaulBrewer

Savman wrote: »

Will X Music be offering VAT free sales to registered individuals I wonder...I'd much rather not pay it at source than have to claim it back in January or whatever.

The world don't work like that!

TelePaul

PaulBrewer wrote: »

The world don't work like that!

Indeed.

Savman

PaulBrewer wrote: »

The world don't work like that!

TelePaul wrote:

Indeed.

Actually I think you'll find it does.

The Revenue Commissioners wrote:

A VAT-registered trader in the State may zero rate the supply of goods to a customer in another EU Member State if:-

• the customer is registered for VAT in that other EU Member State,
• the customer's VAT registration number (including country prefix) is obtained and retained in the supplier's records
• this number, together with the supplier’s VAT registration number, is quoted on the sales invoice
• the goods are dispatched or transported to that other Member State.