tactical vests?

eagleye7

Hey guys I was just wonderin....

Anyone have any opinions on the best type of tac vests out there. ive had some free time in the last week and ive been lookin around for a nice vest. im thinkin stargate style.:p

any input is welcome as well as any cool loadouts you might want to brag about.:D


EDIT: I meant to include a poll but im not the most technically minded oh well.Just means a bit more countin on your part.

Puding

no real best depends a lot on personal opinion

what is your build what style of play do you like?

what aeg do you manly use~?

(F.L.) Anders

http://www.asmc.de/en/Military-Equipment/Tactical-Vests

Should be at least one there that suits your purpose!;)

Genghiz Cohen

A friend told me; "Buy once cry once."

Buy then best quality vest and you'll never have to buy another, and it'll have a great resale value if you decide to go for a different theme.

I would also recommend to get MOLLE type vests, that way if you change AEG you can just spend €50 on new pouches rather than a whole new vest.

eagleye7

Nice site there some really good stuff.
as for the other question i havent skirmished much so i prob couldnt tell ya with much certainty.

I do however like swat/ranger vests not too heavy or bulky but with nuf storage.

But i think you miss the point of my thread i know what i like i was curious as to what everyone else thinks. I for one cant stand the "plate carrier" style vest. They just seem kinda useless, unless you just want the look.

Then theres the big-ass chest rigs with 50 pouches and room for a shotgun on your belt. i doubt you could see over the thing let alone handle an aeg!!

daz801

the south african assault vest by viper is very nice fully ajustable doesnt restrict movement and is very comfortable and with enough room for 10 m4 mags, a bottle of bbs a spare battary two grenades a camelback hydration system and two dump bags for empty mags you know you can carry all you need and for 45 euro you cant go too far wrong

eagleye7

is that the one from Eirsoft. If it is then i agree it looks pretty sweet alright

eagleye7

i just saw this one here id it woulb be my ideal one imo





http://www.asmc.de/en/Military-Equipment/Tactical-Vests/Tactical-vest-UTG-black-p.html

gerrowadat

eagleye7 wrote: »

is that the one from Eirsoft. If it is then i agree it looks pretty sweet alright

It's also very suitable for the eh, larger gent. I got one of them when I first started skimishing and have never looked back. Can carry G36 mags in the puches too.

daz801

ye you can fit 6 g36c mags in it

Lemming

I will echo the suggestion of vests with MOLLE capability. Single vest, multiple combinations.

Killinator

MOLLE +1, and you can get them in any camo you want, and theres tons of options for pouches you can put on them

Puding

molle does have some strong advantages, also if you do not like the full ciras style plate carriers there are plenty of different styles to try




also something that is normal over looked are chest rigs i find them practical and comfortable, i also love my smersh webbing but webbing is not for everyone

Dar

+1 for molle.

All you need to do is figure out which platform would be most comfortable for you, be a vest, shoulder harness, ciras, whatever. No need to worry if it will hold your gear since you can just buy new pouches for whatever new toy you pick up .

eagleye7

The ones in the pictures there look nice but would it not cost a lot to get all the pouches?

I do have one Question that i couldnt quite puzzle out myself...
when you buy a drop leg holster most attach to a belt right?
Do many tac vests come with a belt or something that the drop leg can lop around? Or would I have to get a seperate belt.

I did notice however that on some vests namely here...

http://www.asmc.de/en/Military-Equipment/Tactical-Vests/ASMC-commando-veste-Type-II-p.html

Are the straps on the end of this vest for looping a belt through.
would this be a good feature do you think or could it just reduce mobility?

Masada

Personally i dont really like the molle type since they never really hold the attached pouhes as well as a vest with them sewn on, its all about personal opinion and what you plan on carrying and stuff.,

OzCam

vtec wrote: »

Personally i dont really like the molle type since they never really hold the attached pouches as well as a vest with them sewn on, its all about personal opinion and what you plan on carrying and stuff.,

The trick with MOLLE is apparently to use _all_ of the loops and "weave" the pouch on. Make sure to use the last loop on the pouch, usually the one immediately above the fastener. I learned that lesson the hard way :-(

I have two outfits: belt & webbing, still used by the Irish, British and many other armies. Oldie but Goodie. Carries everything you're likely to need for a whole day, mostly around the waist. Pros: leaves your arms free, easy to set up and modify as needed, very affordable. Cons: belt can be uncomfortable, a hippo pad or similar is very useful. Other cons anyone?

The second is a plate carrier vest & MOLLE pouches. Pros: very modular, can be set up and changed for any task. Great weight distribution when you set it up correctly. Cons: cost can add up very quickly, adding/changing/removing pouches can be a right royal PITA (a long-nose pliers is essential).

The other common styles are Chest Rig (aka Battle Bra) which carries everything around the upper chest; ideal for sitting in vehicles or dismounting, not sure it carries quite so much gear. Probably all you need for a day's play though. Not sure if it's really suited to airsoft, though others may disagree. And the South African Assault Vest (sometimes called Rhodesian). Plenty of room for stuff, though the sewn-on pouches mean you can't easily add, change or delete one. Very affordable, the Viper and WebTex ones are fine.

I found this page very helpful for setting up my belt at the beginning:
<http://www.practicalairsoft.co.uk/plce-assembly.asp&gt;
and this one very helpful for info on overnight-or-longer games
<http://www.practicalairsoft.co.uk/fieldgear.asp&gt;

My own suggestions: very few players carry a field dressing, or the newer and _much_ better Trauma Dressing, but if you do, carry it in front of your non-rifle shoulder (usually the left one). If your shirt/blouse has upper arm pockets, it should be in the left one. If you're carrying a First Aid or EMT pouch, it should be on the lower left of your vest. These are standard positions, the stuff will probably never be needed but it's nice to know where it is.

I agree with vtec, it's all about the mission and preferences. I'd advise anyone to start with something simple and build it up from there. And always Go Light. Most players only really need water and ammo for standard games. Unless you're doing a 4-day yomp in Sweden of course ;-)

I'll be fielding the vest soon, we'll see if it works as well as the webbing. Long post, sorry. I do go on a bit sometimes.

Puding

i.ve had no problem as long as i get the weave right,

another good site for increase your knowledge base on loadouts is militarymorons

check out
http://www.militarymorons.com/equipment/2ndline1.html

there is a lot of information on the site but information it does not have the best navigation, im becoming a fan of low profile simple loadouts like http://www.militarymorons.com/equipment/img/ucr7.jpg

Ample Free ...?

Puding wrote: »

http://www.militarymorons.com/equipment/2ndline1.html

I was flicking through the website and stumbled upon this vid.

Looks light and managable and an intersesting way of placing mag pouches. Also the ability to swing the bandoleer around, (read the article), and access the dump pouch etc. from the front without taking the bandoleer off is a neat trick:P

Unfortunately it only comes in multicam, black and a very light green/grey, not entirely suitable to the Irish countryide

Puding

there are a number of copys about http://ebaybanned.com/product_info.php?cPath=62_29&products_id=1406



you could always stray it the color you want, i know it sounds strange but it works, also with molle pouches on it in the color of your picking it should not be a problem

id come across that vid myself and found it interesting, i also found the guys stance and vertical grip position interesting, no bearing on airsoft but interesting never the less

TerrorFirmer

I got suited up yesterday, jacket, vest, balaclava, helmet, pads, etc. God, it's so cumbersome, can't imagine being able to fight in one (an entire tactical setup, not just the vest, I mean)! Not necessarily linked to just airsoft, but in general....when we're skirmishing I'll have to literally just use the vest and googles....

Fallschirmjager

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

I got suited up yesterday, jacket, vest, balaclava, helmet, pads, etc. God, it's so cumbersome, can't imagine being able to fight in one (an entire tactical setup, not just the vest, I mean)! Not necessarily linked to just airsoft, but in general....when we're skirmishing I'll have to literally just use the vest and googles....

makes you really wonder what the real stuff is like with the full armour plates...


there is a positive tho, one you get used to it and almost everyone else is the same give or take. here are some tips i have found out. just my opinion mind. it is worth getting dressed up and see have you placed the pouches right. is it rubbing off something badly? if it is, you will loose whats in that pouch (or at least assume you will).

watch where you put you radio and headset and the cables. if your aeg strap is rubbing off them they wont last.

can you reach the pouches? if you cant you need to move them (a bit obvious i suppose). that is an advantage of molle. you can get lesser used stuff on your back and there is also molle attachments to turn vertical to horizontal, so you can put bulkier items in them for your sides to the rear. also keep your waist free, so you can bend, so when you have it all on, see can you kneel..if its difficult you need to rearrange. this is one of the reasons chest rigs are popular. also it is worth getting one of those water bladders...carrying all this crap is thirsty work.

ED E

Actually, I have a viper vest for ages but I find I rarely use it. As I dont use midcaps(yet, just never bought them) I found I had a load of empty pouches.

So, I'm getting a serpa next week, and I'm thinking a belt might be a good investment. I want:1 Dump(LHS), 2 Doublemag pouches(one on left rear, one on right rear), Serpa(RHS), a 2 pistol mag pouch(LandR front) and can you get/what would be the most suitable pouch for a hydration pack? When I dont have my vest I have to wear a mini backpack under my jacket and thats a pain. Comms go in the jacket pocket for now. I dont mind spending a bit of cash but buying all the pouches seperate seems relatively expensive. The vipers I've seen all have pouches that are no use to me and dont have the ones I want.

Oh, and either black or OD is fine.

Thanks

Masada

im getting that bandolier in the pics posted above, id say it'd be great for a sniper who needs to be mobile and climb etc. or for a rifleman who dont wanna carry too much stuff.,

Puding

id say it'd be great for a sniper who needs to be mobile and climb etc

that is something that had crossed my mind, only thing that i wondered about would be practicality with a ghiili jacket on, from playing the sniper role a few times lately i;ve really had to think again about how i carry my gear, tried a simple molle belt, molle leg panel, wanted to try this thought..




best result from a comfort and practicality point of view when i keep things off of my front and back to has to be a simple webbing set with minimum pouches the best for me

Poccington

OzCam wrote: »

I have two outfits: belt & webbing, still used by the Irish

No it's not.

Tommyboy71

Poccington wrote: »

No it's not.

PLCE webbing is the current webbing for the Defense Forces. Soon to be replaced with a DPM pattern vest.

daz801

so have you you decided what vest your gonna get

eagleye7

I think ill have to skirmish a bit more first try find my role and what equipment ill need.
At the moment i prefer the assault vest or SWAT vest style ones with sewn on pouches, not too bulky but with enough space.
Ive also been thinkin about colour, at the moment im thinkin black because its easy to
1)match holsters etc (olive drab and sand can vary wildly between brands)
2)black means that any variety of BDU should match the vest. ie. i wont need two vests for woodland /desert camo. Hypothecically, i dont really need desert.

Airsofty

I really like theses vests as they have lenty of room for attachments, give pretty good chest cover, water proof (if ya get a real one)...

Skatedude

If you are looking for stargate style, they use a blackhawk medic vest (omega model i think), which is what i have and i love it, very well made and adjustable. quite expensive, but you get what you pay for.

http://www.nightgear.co.uk/p/943/Blackhawk-Vests/BlackHawk-Vest-|-BlackHawk-Omega-Tactical-Vest-with-Hawktex-Pad.htm

Puding

another option is the wonderful vest guy over at http://thevestguy.com/
check out some of his p90 and stargate products http://thevestguy.com/category.asp?id=169 but international ordering is not for everyone but it is another option

plastic_axe

Suspiciously cheap??

Killinator

plastic_axe wrote: »

Suspiciously cheap??

I got loads of stuff of that seller(bidchart) as have a few others i know and they had nothing but good things to say of him,
all the stuff i got was of high quality, that said i was surprised by the low prices

plastic_axe

Killinator wrote: »

I got loads of stuff of that seller(bidchart) as have a few others i know and they had nothing but good things to say of him,
all the stuff i got was of high quality, that said i was surprised by the low prices

cool, thanks for the reply.

do you (or anyone else) reckon those mag pouches would take a g36c mag?

Killinator

plastic_axe wrote: »

cool, thanks for the reply.

do you (or anyone else) reckon those mag pouches would take a g36c mag?

Becasue its USMC I would say its designed for Stanag mags(M16/M4 style), I have found pouches like that barely squeeze in a G36 mag,
I could be wrong though

Puding

the from pouches appear to be double m4/m16 pouches so they should fit 1 g36 mag depending on cut i might be a bit tight

jaggeh

http://www.vestbuilder.com/

its where i get my stuff

Puding

nice application, opsgear are a nice retailor

eagleye7

hey thanks for all the replies hopefully this might help some people out if they are confused about vests i know it helped me.

defenderdude

I've just used Tactical Gear Depot. Ordered two vests (RAV and belt type vest) and a couple of speed loaders.


Very quickly I got an email from them to tell me that they had discovered a problem with the belt vest during packing. They offered me a replacment which would get in a few days from the factory, or an exchange for another type or offered a refund if I wanted it.

Fair play - they could have just send the faulty vest and I'd probably never have known... but I opted for an exchange for a backpack which cost an extra $5 and they covered the additional cost.

Their communications are fantastic - really good English (definitely not part of ebaybanned) and in good time.

They have kept me updated with regard to the processing and shipping (tracking numbers ) and are very easy to deal with. I'm currently following it's movements across the world to me.:)

I'll write a full review once it arrives, but so far; they have been absolutely top-class.


Only criticism is the website speed is very slow at present - but they are currently upgrading it to make it faster. Much faster.

Prices are comparable to ebaybanned and FREE airmail shipping included in the item price. Indeed, they look very similar to ebaybanned but are not related in any way.
As many of you probably know - I've used ebaybanned on many occasions but lately find they are VERY poor and their communications are crap! It's the lack of updates/info that does my head-in, and what has really put me off is them sending incomplete orders, the recent "no retail Bullsh1t", not informing of the status - almost hoping we forget (it seems), etc...
No more for me.

If this order goes well (which it appears to be), I will be buying alot more from them in the very near future. Now that even Vtec and Cheeky Monkey are wearing multicam I need more new loadouts to keep ahead in the fashion stakes...:D

http://www.tacticalgeardepot.com


I'll post a full review when they arrive.
Aidan.

plastic_axe

defenderdude wrote: »

Only criticism is the website speed is very slow at present

you werent joking, its like a dial-up emulator.

Masada

great to hear it aidan, sounds like a worth while crowd once they get that site sorted.,

defenderdude

vtec wrote: »

great to hear it aidan, sounds like a worth while crowd once they get that site sorted.,

Very much so Richie. Yup, at the moment the site is literally like it's dial-up ok, but it's being server scoochied turbofied thinggie - errr, made 100 times faster;):D:D. Sometimes it runs ok but but mostly sloooooow. 1 to 2 weeks will get it sorted they have told me.

Nice to have an alternative, inexpensive good-quality supplier. (however, my bank manager doesnt agree!):eek:

eagleye7

Hey thanks for the advice on tactical gear depot. Tis nice to see some more options for buyin gear and stuff. Have any of the mods thought of puttin up a list of retailers in the newbs section I know they have a Retailers list i think a list of gear suppliers could be usefull not excactly for newbs but after youv got your first gun gear would be next on the list probably.

plastic_axe

there's an international one in here, i think the text was lifted from another forum.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055163577

i can understand how boards rules would prevent advertising all the stores but i also agree with eagleye7. as a newcomer it's taken me quite a while to locate everything i want to get.

Jamseylad

Got a viper South African Tac vest today...Does the trick, no complaints

eagleye7

Jamseylad wrote: »

Got a viper South African Tac vest today...Does the trick, no complaints

Any idea does it come in black or just that jungley camo?

NakedDex

SAAV's come in just about every colour and camo pattern. Black would be fairly standard.

eagleye7

Cool i had never seen other colours in pics. any idea does Eirsoft stock black ones?

Jamseylad

eagleye7 wrote: »

Cool i had never seen other colours in pics. any idea does Eirsoft stock black ones?

Yeah they do thats where i got mine @€;45