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The M50 Barrier Free Tolling Thread

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    #122
    mik_da_man
    Hosted Moderators Posts: 9,926 ✭✭✭mik_da_man


    Cheers.


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    #123
    tweaf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17 ✭tweaf


    In addition, the tags can't be read through certain vehicles' windsreens, for example cars with heated front screens.

    Don't be surprised it the NRA have to retain the cash option, we should be given a choice!


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    #124
    mik_da_man
    Hosted Moderators Posts: 9,926 ✭✭✭mik_da_man


    Well that's not true.
    I have a heated windscreen in mione and the tag works fine.
    There is a special section on the screen to put the tag.
    I'm more worried about the cameras not reading the plates correctly.
    There is a hefty fine for plates not matching tags


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    #125
    Capri
    Registered Users Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭Capri


    I know Mercs and Renault Lagunas being sold in Singapore had to have their UV windscreens changed because their tags couldn't be read - gas if the NRA didn't learn from Singapore:P

    And with the amount of rain combined with construction trucks dumping muck on the roads, those no. plates will get dirty very quickly these days :P:P


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    #126
    gsxr1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,167 ✭✭✭gsxr1


    i use the M50 about 12 times a year.

    what should I do? or will I receive a bill in the door. Can I still stop and pay.

    9 pages to read through. dont really want to


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    #127
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,705 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    gsxr1 wrote: »
    i use the M50 about 12 times a year.

    what should I do? or will I receive a bill in the door. Can I still stop and pay.

    9 pages to read through. dont really want to

    You'll receive a bill for 6 euro through the door if you don't do anything. You cannot stop and pay at the bridge; but you can go in to a few thousand different retail outlets (shops, petrol stations) and pay 3 euro.

    'video registration' on eflow.ie would bring that down to 2.50 but you need a payment card of some kind (I think its either specifically CC or Laser but can't remember which!).


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    #128
    gsxr1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,167 ✭✭✭gsxr1


    MYOB wrote: »
    You'll receive a bill for 6 euro through the door if you don't do anything. You cannot stop and pay at the bridge; but you can go in to a few thousand different retail outlets (shops, petrol stations) and pay 3 euro.

    'video registration' on eflow.ie would bring that down to 2.50 but you need a payment card of some kind (I think its either specifically CC or Laser but can't remember which!).

    I drive a van .


    So I would be better to register . not receive the tag and just get a laser debit each time.

    does that sound right?


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    #129
    fletch
    Registered Users Posts: 7,380 ✭✭✭fletch


    gsxr1 wrote: »
    i use the M50 about 12 times a year.

    what should I do? or will I receive a bill in the door. Can I still stop and pay.

    9 pages to read through. dont really want to
    I would go for the tag from tolltag.ie and it'll cost you €2.20 each time. Video registration will cost €2.50 a pop.


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    #130
    voxpop
    Registered Users Posts: 2,800 ✭✭✭voxpop


    luckat wrote: »
    But you have to buy that tag for <ouch> €30.

    Yeah thte 30quid up front is a bit steep - I went with their second option, which is an initial 40quid of credit and the account must always have 12quid in it - they auto-topup to 20 when it reaches 12. Think its the best of a bad bunch - I use the bridge maybe twice a month.


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    #131
    oclugg
    Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭oclugg


    Remember that old scam/urban myth about spraying you reg plates with hair lacquer to stop speed camera from reading your reg? I can't wait for the new batch of reg cloaking ideas for this saga.


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    #132
    Saruman
    Registered Users Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    oclugg wrote: »
    Remember that old scam/urban myth about spraying you reg plates with hair lacquer to stop speed camera from reading your reg? I can't wait for the new batch of reg cloaking ideas for this saga.

    Some sort of Automatic registration blocker device you can activate on approach. With an image of a hand giving the finger of course instead of the number plate :D


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    #133
    Firewalkwithme
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭Firewalkwithme


    siralfalot wrote: »
    hmmmm... where do I order one of these??! ;):D

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJEe6M9PdqY

    I think this is what you are looking for. Should pay for itself in no time :)

    http://www.toys4cars.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5718&products_id=36244&zenid=33124e62b576a9bf6bec6cc699d0deb4


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    #134
    cormie
    Registered Users Posts: 20,790 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    Does anyone know what the consequences of being caught using one of them would be? If it is just a fine, it could be well worth it :D

    What section of what act would it fall under I wonder? :)


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    #135
    championc
    Registered Users Posts: 6,064 ✭✭✭championc


    dubwex wrote: »
    If the cameras cant recognise your reg plates then you wont be billed.
    Check out the product photo blocker, this may be an irish solution to an irish problem.

    Not being a regular user, I used the M50 last week one evening and was looking out for the cameras and stuff. From what I saw, the kit was located all on a single gantry between the Toll and Blanch exit. There was a whole line of black boxes which I assume are for reading the Tags but above were three cameras facing towards you.

    I couldn't help but think that if you never registered and were driving behind an Artic, the cameras wouldn't have a hope in hell of spotting your reg. I never saw any cameras to catch the rere plates ........


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    #136
    Our man in Havana
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29,476 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    I couldn't help but think that if you never registered and were driving behind an Artic, the cameras wouldn't have a hope in hell of spotting your reg. I never saw any cameras to catch the rere plates ........
    That will become the new scam.

    I bet they will install rear facing cameras in short order if the scam develops legs.


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    #137
    markpb
    Registered Users Posts: 9,250 ✭✭✭markpb


    Bond-007 wrote: »
    I bet they will install rear facing cameras in short order if the
    scam develops legs.

    Road-cams.... embedded in the tarmac!


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    #138
    championc
    Registered Users Posts: 6,064 ✭✭✭championc


    They couldn't do that - they'd have to close the road for 6 months for the roadworks for installation !!!


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    #139
    narommy
    Registered Users Posts: 469 ✭✭narommy


    Please see attached link

    http://www.tagcompare.ie/t_and_c_account_charges.html

    to me the "direct Route" seems good value 25 to get set up (15deposit(is this refundable) and 10 upfront (5*€2)) and €1 maintenance. But they don't do DD

    Am i missing something?Do some of the other operators offset management charge against the tolls. i.e. if you use the toll you don't get charged the monthly fee? (I doubt it)

    Tolltag lease seems good too €20 to get going and €1.21 monthly

    See also
    http://www.tagcompare.ie/payment_options.html


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    #140
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,705 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    None of them do the offset you're suggesting there.


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    #141
    EI787
    Registered Users Posts: 39 ✭EI787


    narommy wrote: »
    to me the "direct Route" seems good value 25 to get set up (15deposit(is this refundable) and 10 upfront (5*€2)) and €1 maintenance. But they don't do DD

    Yes, the €15 deposit plus any credit remaining on your account is refunded to you when you close the account (according to the website).

    I chose this company too. I like how the minimum top up isn't as large as other companies - better for the less frequent user such as myself.


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    #142
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Bond-007 wrote: »
    That will become the new scam.

    I bet they will install rear facing cameras in short order if the scam develops legs.
    As far as I know most electronic toll roads use rear facing cams.

    p_areshs02.jpg


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    #143
    crosstownk
    Registered Users Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭crosstownk


    I just attempted to sign up to eFlow, but the registration section (new eflow site) doesn't support Safari!

    Not sure if this has been mentioned before.
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    #144
    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 64,789 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    crosstownk wrote: »
    I just attempted to sign up to eFlow, but the registration section (new eflow site) doesn't support Safari!

    Get a real computer and use Opera :D

    Oh wait, it doesn't support Opera either :D


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    #145
    crosstownk
    Registered Users Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭crosstownk


    And I can't use a credit card for a tag account.......

    Welcome to the stone age.

    Muppets.
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    #146
    Max_Damage
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,461 ✭✭✭Max_Damage


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    As far as I know most electronic toll roads use rear facing cams.

    p_areshs02.jpg

    Then just do the opposite, drive in front of a truck. Closely.


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    #147
    cormie
    Registered Users Posts: 20,790 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    I doubt that's going to work? What about areas like London congestion zone, I'm sure they invested in technology to combat that, think of all the dosh they'd be missing out on in bumper to bumper traffic if the cameras couldn't read the plates.


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    #148
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 38,871 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    unkel wrote: »
    Get a real computer and use Opera :D

    Oh wait, it doesn't support Opera either :D
    Frustrating old eflow site updated for users

    So


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    #149
    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 64,789 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    kbannon wrote: »
    Frustrating old eflow site updated for users

    So

    Still not working for Opera though


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    #150
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Max_Damage wrote: »
    Then just do the opposite, drive in front of a truck. Closely.
    Penalty points for tailgaiting has become an offence for a reason, Which would be worse, dodging a 3 euro fee or a e60 fine with points. You can guarantee this will all be on record with cops waiting to pounce at the nearest Garda ramp. It wouldn't surprise me if they had cameras pointing sideways to catch whose driving,


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    #151
    championc
    Registered Users Posts: 6,064 ✭✭✭championc


    An offence has to be proven and they ain't going to be able to read number plates from the side if you're tailgating.

    I assume many have seen the camera gantry but has anyone seen cameras for the rere ? You can certainly get a good look at Northbound if you're travelling South and visa versa so they should be easily visable


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