Next Season - Winter League 2008/09

helimachoptor

LeixlipRed wrote: »

I thought you can't play on Tuesdays or was that another poster?

No thats me, I'll have to see what the fixtures are like and see how many I can get to.

LeixlipRed

Well if there's 5 hours available each week and one of them is on a Monday then we might play max 5 games on a Monday out of 18 games in total.

helimachoptor

LeixlipRed wrote: »

Well if there's 5 hours available each week and one of them is on a Monday then we might play max 5 games on a Monday out of 18 games in total.

Yeah i know but depending on the time they games are on tuesdays I could end up being able to go to a lot of them or none at all.

homerjay2005

helimachoptor wrote: »

Yeah i know but depending on the time they games are on tuesdays I could end up being able to go to a lot of them or none at all.

so what is your slot on Tuesdays that you currently play on?

helimachoptor

homerjay2005 wrote: »

so what is your slot on Tuesdays that you currently play on?

half 8 to half 9. So if there's a 7.30 kick of or before or a 9.30 kick off or later I can make the games

Nunu

helimachoptor wrote: »

half 8 to half 9. So if there's a 7.30 kick of or before or a 9.30 kick off or later I can make the games

Realistically you would make the 10 o'clock kick offs in St. Judes(no more than 4 games I'd say) and Monday games, unless you can click your fingers and magically appear in another location instantaneously:D

7.30 kick offs are the earliest so if you plan on making your 8.30 game you wouldn't be available for them.

LeixlipRed

Yeh but you're hardly gonna be 100% if you've been playing an hour beforehand. I don't mean to be sounding like we're not interested in having you play but we're interested in players who can commit to being at every game bar the odd few. And unless our fixtures are all Mondays or 7.30 on Tuesdays (which is just 2 out of the 5 timeslots) you wont be able to do that. Commitment is a huge thing. We never have the same team out there every week and that's caused us huge problems.

helimachoptor

LeixlipRed wrote: »

Yeh but you're hardly gonna be 100% if you've been playing an hour beforehand. I don't mean to be sounding like we're not interested in having you play but we're interested in players who can commit to being at every game bar the odd few. And unless our fixtures are all Mondays or 7.30 on Tuesdays (which is just 2 out of the 5 timeslots) you wont be able to do that. Commitment is a huge thing. We never have the same team out there every week and that's caused us huge problems.

I understand, I've spoken to Ed about it and he said to come down anyway until the fixtures are announced. But I'll leave this one up to the manager to make the call

LeixlipRed

Ah yeh, it's obviously Des's call in the end and no harm in you still coming along.

helimachoptor

LeixlipRed wrote: »

Ah yeh, it's obviously Des's call in the end and no harm in you still coming along.

I'll have to make sure I impress then tonight

LeixlipRed

Don't think that's the point really. I haven't seen you play obviously but even if you're Ronaldo and can't make half the games what would be the point? Anyway, pointless discussion for the moment.

LeixlipRed

Oh, by the way, was looking at the dates and reckon I'll be fit for first game of season assuming I get the all clear from doctor about the arm in a few weeks.

helimachoptor

LeixlipRed wrote: »

Don't think that's the point really. I haven't seen you play obviously but even if you're Ronaldo and can't make half the games what would be the point? Anyway, pointless discussion for the moment.

It was my attempt at humour as denoted by the at the end, true tis a pointless discussion til the fixtures are out

Baggly

LeixlipRed wrote: »

Don't think that's the point really. I haven't seen you play obviously but even if you're Ronaldo and can't make half the games what would be the point? Anyway, pointless discussion for the moment.

helimachoptor wrote: »

It was my attempt at humour as denoted by the at the end, true tis a pointless discussion til the fixtures are out

Dont forget the handbags tonight lads

Baggly

If i set up that bleep test thing in the city centre some evening (with Don Des' blessing of course), how many would be interested in taking part?

LeixlipRed

Have been sick so I'm a bit out of shape. Maybe in a few weeks I'd be up for it. What's it gonna tell us though other than we're not fit enough

Baggly

I think Jules suggested it earlier on. Its useful more as a personal benchmark for training. Ive always found them good for motivating myself to do fitness work and for judging what i can do in terms of endurance. Its really up to the team as a whole...either we buy into monitoring our fitness and doing our own individual fitness work, or we dont....but everyone seems to be calling for people to take steps to improve their fitness.

On another note, im doing a triathlon tomorrow. If i drown i wont make the game next week.

LeixlipRed

Yeh, I think it's a good idea anyway. Plus with the broken arm it'll give me a chance to be involved. I definitely can't do it next week though.

Baggly

You know if you were committed to the team you would cut your arm off.

Condescending hat on.

homerjay2005

bleep tests sounds good, im defo in and i think most of the squad should be, good test of fitness and a good way to measure progress.
have done it 3 times before myself.

we could then do it say in 4 weeks time when the season starts and see improvement. we should all aim for 30% improvement anyway, if not more.

whats needed? cost? location etc?

maybe we discuss this next week with aim to having it the following week?

i have it on a cd somewhere only to find it. realistically, all you need is a small aread thats 20 metres long. a 5 a side/indoor pitch would do the trick and then we could have a kick about afterwards.

FrankGrimes

Good to see the new lads are prepared to voice up with their thoughts - as has been pointed out several times, we need more of that. Just cos me, Martin, and Ed are loud doesn't mean we're right, but if you have a different view on things let it be known on here or before the match - arguing it or holding resentment during a match does noone any favours.

Congrats on the new role Michael, having another person involved on the management team can only be a good thing for the team and glad to see it go to one of the old-timers

Hope to get out of hospital (free wifi - this place rocks) tomorrow and start the recovery. No staples this time so that should help the wounds heal quicker, but I've made up my mind not to come back too soon this time so that I'm fit enough to do myself justice when I get back. Have to say though, from the difference between the legs after last week's match its clear the surgery works so I'm looking forward to playing without that pain for the first time in living memory.

Yeh the bleep tests would be a great move - lads will be far more motivated when they have a clear target to work off. We know the first benchmark results will be mostly poor, but the worse you are now the more opportunity you have to improve for the next one. We used be fierce competitive about it at Parkvale - it defo got lads putting in extra sessions on their own time.

There's clearly momentum at the moment with more friendlies in the off-season and new players joining than we've had before so there's a real opportunity this season though I'm sure the management team could do with another couple of hopefuls to cast their eye over. Onwards and upwards so.

LeixlipRed

Yeh I like the idea of recording your score and trying to improve on it before season starts. Excellent idea. Good to hear you had the second surgery Jules. Hopefully the recovery will go quickly and you won't miss too much of the season.

dfx-

Des wrote: »

Eleven paid.

That doesn't cover the costs lads, so I haven't applied yet.

Seven places left in the league we want.

Get the bleedin' money in lads, can you?

ffs.

Paid online just now.

homerjay2005

FrankGrimes wrote: »

Hope to get out of hospital (free wifi - this place rocks) tomorrow and start the recovery.

best of luck with this, hope it all goes well.

looking forward to hearing par dolan saying " jules ahead of scheule and
back in training" reports on setanta sports news over the coming days

Baggly

homerjay2005 wrote: »

whats needed? cost? location etc?

maybe we discuss this next week with aim to having it the following week?

i have it on a cd somewhere only to find it. realistically, all you need is a small aread thats 20 metres long. a 5 a side/indoor pitch would do the trick and then we could have a kick about afterwards.

Indeed, this can all be done on relatively short notice once the team agrees to take part. Talk to ya next week so.

FrankGrimes

Gav is giving me cash and I've transferred the money into the account on his behalf.

homerjay2005

what is the update on numbers paid up Des?????

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Sixteen players paid up.

This is the most recent list of people who have stated an interest in playing this coming season.

Daryl - Paid
Ed - Paid
Dan - Paid
Michael - Paid
Simon - Paid
Lepo -
Larry - Paid
Art - Paid
Eddie - Paid
Derek - Paid
Keith -
Dave (PHB) -
Peter - Paid
Gav - Paid
Mark -
Iain - Paid
Martin - Paid
Jules – Paid
Dave -
Robbie -
Keith (Draupnir)-
Ben -
Kenny -
Cathal - Paid
Geoff -

plus

CREDIT TRANSFE 694368

Now, who is this?

Can those who haven't paid yet please PM me and let me know if there is a money problem, we can come to some arrangement.

An arrangement does not mean a Pay as you Play though, you need to show some commitment to be a part of the squad.

Thanks.

thelepo

I paid on the friday it was due, lodged it into the account with cash.

LeixlipRed

Any updates Ed/Des on final squad list for the season? Has everyone paid,etc.I'm excited about our prospects for this year, should be challenging for the title hopefully.

Kiith

I still havent paid. Been **** broke this month. Will be paid next week though, so will transfer the money as soon as i get it. Hope thats ok.

WeAreShels

I shall pay whenever I receive my scholarship money from PwC. Starting my Masters Monday week so I would imagine that'll be the latest I'll have it.

homerjay2005

i think theres quite a few that have not paid.... but some have already talked about being short which is fair enough.

final squad will be about 22 i think, its not definate yet, sure there is 3 weeks to decide it, theres one or 2 not sure yet with work etc...

homerjay2005

heres the set up for the league anyway according to their website...i was talking to the astro boss last week and he confirmed our entry into this. Des was sorting the money towards end of the week.

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Rathfarnham 3 Rock Rovers

All games played on:
Mon 19:30-20:30


Blackrock NewPark

All games played on:
Tue 21:00-22:00

Templeogue St. Judes

All games played on:
Tue 22:00-23:00

Rathfarnham St.Columbas

All games played on:
Tue 21:30-22:30

Dundrum Wesley College

All games played on:
Tue 19:30-20:30

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so looking at this, the majority of our games will be played after 9 on tuesday with say maybe 3 games at 7.30 on Tuesday and maybe 4 Monday games. hopefully this will suit everybody anyway, tho a good few players are naturally going to miss 2-3 games, maybe more.

Des, how is the money update, who has paid?

FrankGrimes

Seems like pretty random timetabling to be honest but I guess you take what you're given in these leagues.

We’ve been in a position before where we’ve had a really large squad at the start of a season but it’s always filtered down with drop-outs and regular no-shows. Likewise any attempts at getting a training/team workout/kicakbout session going have suffered due to poor turnout.

I don’t think that will happen to the same extent this time round. The reason for it is simple – higher standard players are generally more committed because when they’re not getting a game they’re not doubting their ability like a weaker player might which leads to no-shows. A stronger player is more likely to think ‘I’m gonna fight for my place and show these lads what they’re missing out on’ which means he’ll show up more often. Likewise, while we need to balance optimism with caution, it’s fair to say this squad should at the very least be very competitive in most games this season – players tend to show up more often for a winning team.

On the one hand it gives the management team a selection headache I’m sure they’ll relish, but on the other hand it means we need to ask the question again – would we have enough numbers to get a weekly session going either on a Wed/Thursday evening or a Sat/Sunday? We could work out later what format it might be, but suggest it’s discussed at next week’s match as I think there’ll be more commitment from this group.

homerjay2005

the sats and sundays are defo out Jules, we have tried time and time again and never got the numbers. people are doing other things at weekends, least alone the fact that alot of our team now, play grass soccer too or other sports at the weekends as well as work.

thursday nights would be one night, maybe if we did 5 a sides? tallagh astropark has spots on thursdays anyway....

Nunu

Our fixture list is up on astro.ie...I presume they are all provisional dates?

4 games on Mon 19.30 at Three Rock.
2 games on Tue 19.30 at Wesley
6 games on Tue 21.00 at New Park
3 games on Tue 21.30 at Columbas
3 games on Tue 22.00 at St. Judes

If there are no changes I should only be a doubt for 2 games (Tuesdays 7.30) due to work, so I'm delighted with that:)

TUE OCT 7 22:00 JUDE Boardeaux v I-China

TUE OCT 14 22:00 JUDE Glenwood Rovers v Boardeaux

MON OCT 20 19:30 3RRB Ravenhill v Boardeaux

TUE OCT 28 21:00 NEW Bar Real v Boardeaux

TUE NOV 4 21:00 NEW Oak Tree Press v Boardeaux

TUE NOV 11 19:30 WES Boardeaux v The full irish

TUE NOV 18 21:00 NEW Boardeaux v Coffin Dodgers

TUE NOV 25 21:30 CLMBS Boardeaux v Perrem Design Hardware

MON DEC 1 19:30 3RRB Boardeaux v Coca Cola

MON DEC 8 19:30 3RRB Boardeaux v I-China

TUE DEC 16 22:00 JUDE Glenwood Rovers v Boardeaux

TUE JAN 6 21:00 NEW Oak Tree Press v Boardeaux

TUE JAN 13 19:30 WES Boardeaux v The full irish

TUE JAN 20 21:00 NEW Boardeaux v Coffin Dodgers

TUE JAN 27 21:30 CLMBS Boardeaux v Perrem Design Hardware

MON FEB 2 19:30 3RRB Boardeaux v Coca Cola

TUE FEB 10 21:30 CLMBS Ravenhill v Boardeaux

TUE FEB 17 21:00 NEW Bar Real v Boardeaux

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Hmm.

Thanks Eddie. I'm having problems getting onto the website at the minute.

Games at 10 ffs. Hate them.

helimachoptor

There's only one game I cant make as I'll be in the states.
MON OCT 20 19:30 3RRB Ravenhill v Boardeaux

homerjay2005

good stuff Eddie, id say these are final....

we have played 4 of these teams before -

Full Irish - draw and then they beat us last season didnt they? i cant remember i missed those 2 games.

Glenwood - these lads were handy, played them 3 seasons ago. they were in with a chance of winning the league and we beat them 3-0 on the last night. they lost the league on goal difference i think. they may have changed since then, but doubt it much as they had a lot of older lads, some good players who played at a decent level before. wont be bad.

ravinhill - played them 4 times now, 2 seperate seasons. we won the first 3 and drew 1-1 last game. have 2 or 3 very good players that tick them over.

coffin dodgers - were in our league this time last year and beat us 1-0, in a shockingly bad performance from us( was the game that ended our title challenge and we lost another 4 after that after going unbeaten for 7 weeks)
we beat them 4-0 last game of the season. another bunch of oldies, so could be capable of winning a few games against the top teams.

i know nothing about the other teams, but surely somebody does...coca cola, i wonder is that a company team or just a name. if they are a company team, they could be very good...

thank f*ck, no SS rovers either this year!!

LeixlipRed

Ah come on Ed, would've been nice to do SS and the Stroncock over Ravenhill, Full Irish and Coffin Dodgers are all sides we'd want to be beating if we're serious about winning this. glenwood were handy. Had a very good left winger with lots of pace. Think they had 10 men when we beat them 3-0 as well.

helimachoptor

Money has been transferred in lads.

homerjay2005

well whats the update? im sure des has his squad picked, so its just a matter of lads paying up to show they are commited. final squad will be about 20/21 i would think.


I do know that there still is 5 or 6 lads that have not paid, so its time to pay up,tho we have 3/4 who have only joined for the past 2-3 games like Mike, Ciaran, Clayton, Karl etc, so its understandable that these lads aint paid yet.

homerjay2005

well here we are. Des/Mikie feel free to put it where ever ye want to or maybe its ok in this thread.!

pvt.joker

a lot of new faces there since last season! Want to give names to the faces Ed?
thanks

helimachoptor

pvt.joker wrote: »

a lot of new faces there since last season! Want to give names to the faces Ed?
thanks

Someone photoshop me in!

Redders825

Hey Lads,

Glad to see ye won last week, unbeaten in a long time now. Anyway the reason im posting is because im going to have to withdraw from the squad. I didnt play last week due to a knee injury i picked up in the last pre-season game, had physio during the week and she said it could be a week or so but i played a FAI Junior Cup game this morning and aggrevated it further, so basically my manager has said to quit the astro in Dublin, we are pushing for the league and cannot afford injuries so to keep to the gym.

By the looks of it ye have a massive squad and ye definitely have the squad to win the league. I enjoyed playing and its a pity i cant but i have to prioritise.

Best of luck for the year. Ill be keeping an eye out!

Nunu

Sorry to hear you've to pull out Conor.

Quality, quality player. Good luck in your League.

Maybe we'll need to call on you for dig out sometime if we're short numbers....highly unlikely though with our mammoth squad:D

homerjay2005

Redders825 wrote: »

Hey Lads,

Glad to see ye won last week, unbeaten in a long time now. Anyway the reason im posting is because im going to have to withdraw from the squad. I didnt play last week due to a knee injury i picked up in the last pre-season game, had physio during the week and she said it could be a week or so but i played a FAI Junior Cup game this morning and aggrevated it further, so basically my manager has said to quit the astro in Dublin, we are pushing for the league and cannot afford injuries so to keep to the gym.

By the looks of it ye have a massive squad and ye definitely have the squad to win the league. I enjoyed playing and its a pity i cant but i have to prioritise.

Best of luck for the year. Ill be keeping an eye out!

of course he is going to tell you to give up! managers will always tell people what to do!!! most of the team plays with other teams at the weekend and im sure most of the big clubs in dublin have players playing astro during the week.

big loss,yourself and mark were a very solid partnership and gave us a good option. with Ian pulling out too and derek unavailable for the past few weeks, it defo means we are bringing players into the middle from other positions like we had to do last week with Eddie.

FrankGrimes

I'm gonna have to drop out lads. Was trying to ignore the effects the 10 minute run-out on Tuesday had on me but it's Sunday now and the pressure in the shins is only settling down now. When the girlfriend pointed out it sounds like it always was before the surgery I realised that yeh I'd just forgotten what I used always live with cos I haven't had it since the first op in June.

And it meant I couldn't do any of the other cardio work this week because of it so it's not worth it. The doc's advice is to focus on non-impact cardio for at least the next 4to 6 weeks and then start gradually building up to some impact running. So the jury's out till then if the surgery actually worked or not, though I'm not banking on it, but at least going about it the right way gives it every chance. Then throw the problems with the groin the MRI scan showed up and it's clear keeping on trying to grind through it is not gonna help so I've gotta stop. Gutted.

So all the best with it lads, I've really enjoyed it and I know I'll miss playing and will just want to get back in and play too early like I've done before, but I hope to be back just don't know when and hopefully will be in condition to offer my best when I do get back.

Till then I hope there's some trophies either in the bag or on the way by then and I'll keep an eye out of course and drop into watch if I'm passing on my way home from work. All the best.