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PSNI Recruitment - Stage 4 - The Medical

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭ D4z


    JD2020 wrote: »
    Yeah same with me. Think you only need to see the doc if you have any medical conditions.

    Excellent, thank you. I'm colourblind and it obviously showed but when I didn't see the doctor as "they didn't need to see me" I assumed that was me automatically counted out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25 ✭✭✭ El Ahrairah


    From what I gathered the Doctor only needed to see you to discuss any issues that came up in the first two rooms.


  • Registered Users Posts: 84 ✭✭✭ mkelly123


    Hi I just done my medical today, yes 2 rooms then drugs test. I asked the man escorting us and he said only need to see doctor now if there is anything written on medical form for him to inspect first hand. I had worn my fancy boxer shorts aswell lol


  • Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭✭ yet another lurker


    OK folks I was a little heavier recently at 93kg. Needed to get to 87.5kg to meet the bmi requirement.
    I'm now pretty much borderline at 87.3kg. Has anyone failed on bmi alone? Can you be out of the running now due to being heavier even if you passed fitness with no issues?
    Thanks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭✭ yet another lurker


    Also


    Substance misuse

    My hair length is about 2cm on my head and not sure if I have enough in my armpits! Anyone know what happens if hair isn't at the required 3cm?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭ C3POPO


    Substance misuse

    My hair length is about 2cm on my head and not sure if I have enough in my armpits! Anyone know what happens if hair isn't at the required 3cm?

    I got enough from my head but the SMT guy explained what would happen if I hadn't. Basically, they need to get hair from other parts of your body that makes enough of a sample of about the size of a cotton wool ball but not as dense. I think he said they only need one sample rather than the two they take for head hair.


  • Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭ C3POPO


    OK folks I was a little heavier recently at 93kg. Needed to get to 87.5kg to meet the bmi requirement.
    I'm now pretty much borderline at 87.3kg. Has anyone failed on bmi alone? Can you be out of the running now due to being heavier even if you passed fitness with no issues?
    Thanks.
    This is an interesting one. The notes with the appointment letter says that if you are over BMI then you have to take the PCA, but we have all taken and passed the PCA to get as far as the medical so I dont know what they would do. I assume you would be OK?


  • Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭✭ Smilo89


    C3POPO wrote: »
    OK folks I was a little heavier recently at 93kg. Needed to get to 87.5kg to meet the bmi requirement.
    I'm now pretty much borderline at 87.3kg. Has anyone failed on bmi alone? Can you be out of the running now due to being heavier even if you passed fitness with no issues?
    Thanks.
    This is an interesting one. The notes with the appointment letter says that if you are over BMI then you have to take the PCA, but we have all taken and passed the PCA to get as far as the medical so I dont know what they would do. I assume you would be OK?

    Hello, I'm from a medical background & when we are calculating BMI we take your Lean to Fat ratio into account. So i'd say if you can pass the PCA with no problems, they shouldn't fail you on your BMI. I also have a few friends currently in GV or already passed through and their BMI's wouldnt have been within "normal" range!! Hope this helps :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭ D4z


    How long did it take from the medical to receiving the results?


  • Registered Users Posts: 143 ✭✭ WannabePC123


    D4z wrote: »
    How long did it take from the medical to receiving the results?

    Haven't done my medical yet, it's next week! But I've been told it takes 3 weeks!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭✭ JD2020


    D4z wrote: »
    How long did it take from the medical to receiving the results?


    I got mine the same day by email.


  • Registered Users Posts: 143 ✭✭ WannabePC123


    Sorry I thought you meant the SMT results!


  • Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭✭ JD2020


    Sorry I thought you meant the SMT results!

    Do you know if we get SMT results? I thought it was a case of you only heard if you failed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭ D4z


    JD2020 wrote: »
    Sorry I thought you meant the SMT results!

    Do you know if we get SMT results? I thought it was a case of you only heard if you failed

    You're correct. You don't get the results of the SMT, unless you fail.


  • Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭✭ yet another lurker


    Thanks for the replies. I have a few extra pounds and it's not all muscle!
    My body fat may we a bit High which is why I have concerns. If it's just a case of having to do PCA again I'm happy enough with that!


  • Registered Users Posts: 36 ✭✭✭ RTGeorge8910


    C3POPO wrote: »
    OK folks I was a little heavier recently at 93kg. Needed to get to 87.5kg to meet the bmi requirement.
    I'm now pretty much borderline at 87.3kg. Has anyone failed on bmi alone? Can you be out of the running now due to being heavier even if you passed fitness with no issues?
    Thanks.
    This is an interesting one. The notes with the appointment letter says that if you are over BMI then you have to take the PCA, but we have all taken and passed the PCA to get as far as the medical so I dont know what they would do. I assume you would be OK?

    I had to see the doctor after my medical and he raised my BMI being high. I am 120kgs and was passed fit. Told to start more cardio work and he couldn't fail me because I passed the fitness test so people stop worrying about BMI it means nothing if you can pass the fitness test.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭ D4z


    Has anyone failed medical on colour vision and appealed it? If so, how did it go?

    Pretty sure I failed mine, just trying to prepare for what to do next.


  • Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭✭ yet another lurker


    I do believe colour vision is something you can fail in. Where firearms are involved it's critical.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭ D4z


    I do believe colour vision is something you can fail in. Where firearms are involved it's critical.

    I'm more concerned about the year of my life this has taken up, just to fall at this hurdle. When applying it states you cannot join with severe colour deficiency, however I am diagnosed with mild.

    I read on a FOI they require 7/10 normal vision to pass, surely 3 incorrect doesn't make you fall under severe?


  • Registered Users Posts: 504 Johannes_Cabal


    D4z wrote: »
    I'm more concerned about the year of my life this has taken up, just to fall at this hurdle. When applying it states you cannot join with severe colour deficiency, however I am diagnosed with mild.

    I read on a FOI they require 7/10 normal vision to pass, surely 3 incorrect doesn't make you fall under severe?

    I wouldn't worry, I have been told on numerous occassions that I am severely colourblind yet I passed the medical in C1 and managed to get all the cards correct....I would imagine if you were fully colourblind that would be the only way to fail.

    With regards to colourblindness and firearms it wouldn't really be that big of an issue as you can serve in the armed forces whilst being colourblind.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭ D4z


    D4z wrote: »
    I'm more concerned about the year of my life this has taken up, just to fall at this hurdle. When applying it states you cannot join with severe colour deficiency, however I am diagnosed with mild.

    I read on a FOI they require 7/10 normal vision to pass, surely 3 incorrect doesn't make you fall under severe?

    I wouldn't worry, I have been told on numerous occassions that I am severely colourblind yet I passed the medical in C1 and managed to get all the cards correct....I would imagine if you were fully colourblind that would be the only way to fail.

    With regards to colourblindness and firearms it wouldn't really be that big of an issue as you can serve in the armed forces whilst being colourblind.

    The nurse told me I got all 10 wrong, then tried the cards with the numbers inside them, claimed I got all 27 wrong. Even though I was sure I got some of them right, for example there was a purple with yellow number inside and I'm only red/green, but apparently I got it wrong as well.

    I guess I'll have to appeal and see if I can attempt it again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 504 Johannes_Cabal


    D4z wrote: »
    The nurse told me I got all 10 wrong, then tried the cards with the numbers inside them, claimed I got all 27 wrong. Even though I was sure I got some of them right, for example there was a purple with yellow number inside and I'm only red/green, but apparently I got it wrong as well.

    I guess I'll have to appeal and see if I can attempt it again.


    The ones with the numbers inside I would get all but one or two wrong but the test with the squares I seem to do well on, I'm also red green colourblind and it is at a level where I couldn't serve as an engineer in the army.

    I can differeniate between colours and shades no problem in day to day life, the only time I have ever struggled is with those number cards.

    If you do fail based on colour perception appeal it anyway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,041 MrBlack93


    D4z wrote: »
    The nurse told me I got all 10 wrong, then tried the cards with the numbers inside them, claimed I got all 27 wrong. Even though I was sure I got some of them right, for example there was a purple with yellow number inside and I'm only red/green, but apparently I got it wrong as well.

    I guess I'll have to appeal and see if I can attempt it again.

    If you hear back I'd love to hear how you get on as this is also concern for me


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,640 Homer01


    This is a good read for those who haven't seen it before. No mention of eyesight in this one though.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/100695/621216.doc


  • Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭ C3POPO


    Don't worry until you get the e-mail from Medical. You only fail eyesight if you are a monochromat (I learned a new word today!!).

    I cant post links, but search for "HOC 25/2003" and the first result takes you to the policecouldyou site with the eyesight standards doc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,640 Homer01


    C3POPO wrote: »
    Don't worry until you get the e-mail from Medical. You only fail eyesight if you are a monochromat (I learned a new word today!!).

    I cant post links, but search for "HOC 25/2003" and the first result takes you to the policecouldyou site with the eyesight standards doc.

    Here ya go :)

    http://www.policecouldyou.co.uk/documents/hoc-25-20032835.pdf?view=Binary


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭ D4z


    HOC 25/2003 is for England and Wales only. Due to firearms Northern Ireland follow their own circular.

    FOI - F-2008-05286 explains it all there.

    Not sure how colour deficiency effects the use of firearms and I've never had issues before or been asked if I had any issues when using firearms.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25 ✭✭✭ El Ahrairah


    Anyone any idea how long the medical results take to come through? I saw someone on here say they received an e-mail the same day but I've been waiting a few already.


  • Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭ C3POPO


    D4z wrote: »
    HOC 25/2003 is for England and Wales only. Due to firearms Northern Ireland follow their own circular.

    FOI - F-2008-05286 explains it all there.

    Not sure how colour deficiency effects the use of firearms and I've never had issues before or been asked if I had any issues when using firearms.
    Interesting!! Thanks for sharing


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭ D4z


    Confirmation today that I failed my medical based on my colour vision. Does anyone know what happens on an appeal? (In general, not specifically related to colour vision)


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