COD 5 in WW2-What do you think?

t-mobile1892

I heard recently that COD 5 will be set in WW2,not in a modern setting like COD 4, what do you guys think of this?

Rb

WW2 games have been done to death but I guess we'll just have to wait and see given how good they made COD4.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

isn't cod5 being made by a different crowd than made 4?

Doctor DooM

Mordances with the proletariat wrote: »

isn't cod5 being made by a different crowd than made 4?

Nope, Infinity ward weren't happy with 3 so they are doing 5, and yes, it is set in WW2.

After COD4 I will wait and see, although I am a little disappointed we're going back to the most overdone storyline in gaming!

Alanstrainor

I dont know i really liked taking COD to the modern day with COD4, i do really like WW2 fps but it really has been done to death, unless they can come up with some really exciting new game play ideas i'd rrather they left it in the modern day tbh.

TelePaul

In console terms, there hasn't (IMO) been a definitive WW2 shooter on a 7th gen system. I think success will depend on the theatre of war but might seem devolved by comparison to the high-tech weapons and gadgetery in COD 4.

Doctor DooM

TelePaul wrote: »

In console terms, there hasn't (IMO) been a definitive WW2 shooter on a 7th gen system. I think success will depend on the theatre of war but might seem devolved by comparison to the high-tech weapons and gadgetery in COD 4.

The bits with the night goggles/ radiation/ nukes/ etc where the best bits in COD4... they're going to have to be extra imaginative in COD5 to top that in an already done to death genre. I hope they do though!

Creature

I thought the modern setting of COD4 was very well done so I'm surprised they're ditching it already. Can't say yet another WWII shooter fills me with much excitement, probably wont buy it.

Sod'o swords

COD5 is going to be pacific and made by the same crowd who made cod3.
So console only and pants.
Well that's what i heard.

t-mobile1892

Also when they set COD 4 in a modern setting Infinity Ward could make up their own war (ie the US Marines invading a country that is definitely NOT iraq :rolleyes:) as opposed to having some gruff american private narrate the invasion of the D-Day beaches for the millionth time...

Lukker-

CoD5 is being developed by Treyarch not Infinity Ward who made CoD4. The system is that every 2nd CoD game is made by Treyarch who usually do a **** job. Treyarch were responsible for CoD3 which was an epic fail of a game.

Dinner

Lukker- wrote: »

CoD5 is being developed by Treyarch not Infinity Ward who made CoD4. The system is that every 2nd CoD game is made by Treyarch who usually do a **** job. Treyarch were responsible for CoD3 which was an epic fail of a game.

Can't find the link at the moment but I read on CVG that Treyarch will do CoD 5(and make a sack of it) and then inifinty ward have the rights from then on. Mind you, haven't properly enjoyed a CoD game since UO. Never really found CoD4 that good outside of single player.

brennaldo

yeah i started a thread a while back on this topic and i think its a really bad idea, WW2 games had there day, the modern warfare games are much better

WetDaddy

I always thought a Vietnam war game would be interesting. Possibly a bit too controversial for some Americans, but how 'n' ever...

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

an iraq war game would be cool, so long as the good guys were the iraqis

Shiminay

+1 to that Mord - or maybe an original "Desert Storm" game where you get to play the Kurds avoiding Sadam's gas...

A Vietnam game'd be good also - never played that Battlefield: Vietnam when it was around, any good?

Cato

Folex wrote: »

I always thought a Vietnam war game would be interesting. Possibly a bit too controversial for some Americans, but how 'n' ever...

men of valour was an excellent Vietnam game, good story and tension, shooting mechanics were a bit suspect though but you get used to them

r3nu4l

Yup, I have to say I'm disappointed with the return to WWII.

I would have preferred to see COD 5 as an update to COD4 but with newer weapons, perhaps including the Steyr AUG series as an assault rifle and different shotguns and LMG's. IT might have been nice too to see some European (or US) urban military deployment in a city, to combat terrorists as well as some hostage situations.

WWII? Again? I'll keep my fingers crossed but so far I'm not hopeful.

Cato

pacific theater was never really done properly in an fps, im looking forward to it but im a little cautious as the developer has had a poor history imo look at cod3 it was like some one cut and paste the name over a poor mans copy of cod2, if done properly however this could be epic think the Thin Red Line and the attack on that hill or japs bayonet charging you through the jungle! if there is another pearl harbour mission though i will throw up

The Queen

COD3 was not the epic fail that everyone claims it is, otherwise it wouldn't have sold bucket loads and gotten good reviews across the board on all formats. The graphics and multi-player are better then COD2 (on consoles); OK so single player had a few niggles but it was still good. A lot of it seems to be random bandwagon jumping.....COD3 was an overwhelming financial success and was well received by magazines and web site reviewers....

Also, they made the game in under a year.....so a bit rushed. COD5 has gotten twice that development time.

I say it's gonna rock. I didn't like Modern Warfare at all (I love MP but the SP is just pants in my opinion) and I can't wait for it to return to WW2 - Treyarch are using and expanding on the COD4 engine, not using their own.

Men of Valor was a bit crap, at least, it was on consoles, terrible ropey visuals and dodgy framerate. Vietcong is still king of Nam shooters!

Jack Sheehan

In case this hasn't already been posted, the first COD:World at War Teaser:
http://kotaku.com/5018540/call-of-duty-5-first-trailer

Kinetic^

Oh why did they let Treyarch get their hands on this!!!!!! :rolleyes: COD3 was terrible.

miju

is it just me or does the new COD just not seem as fluid as COD 4 ?

Jack Sheehan

Well I like to look at it this way. A lot of people say it's a major step back but it's not, its just pottering around on the same spot until Infinity Ward comes and Delivers CoD 5. Note the title, 'World at War', not '5'.

A game takes a long time to develop and this can just be a fun distraction to fill that space. Treyarch aren't the most creative of folks but they do have solid skills that will deliver a passable to above average experience. Give them a shot eh? I never like to see people bashing a game before it's even been played.

r3nu4l

Jack Sheehan wrote: »

I never like to see people bashing a game before it's even been played.

Oh I've nothing against the developers it's the timeline I don't like. I love all the gadgets and perks that are in COD4, it's the step backwards in technology I don't like.

What will we see for COD6...WWI, Crimean war? Cavalry charges? Muskets? :rolleyes:
Grrr!! :mad:


Having said all that I really hope I'm eating these words when the game does come out!
/crosses fingers.

Steffano2002

Seriously though, why the hell did Treyarch get the contract for CoD5 anyway? *Sigh*

Rb

Steffano2002 wrote: »

Seriously though, why the hell did Treyarch get the contract for CoD5 anyway? *Sigh*

I really don't understand either, after the success of COD4 you'd think they'd stick with the developers but obviously not...probably a money thing I'd imagine.

Steffano2002

I think they use Treyarch in order to keep the money coming in while they develop the "proper" Call of Duty game. It's a fantastic way of doing business!

Infinity Ward develop CoD1 & CoD2. Treyarch then comes in and develops CoD3 which enables IW to start working on CoD4 (while the money is still comming in!). Then CoD4 comes out while Treyarch are already developping CoD5. When CoD5 comes out, IW will be half way through the development of CoD6 and so on and so forth!

Brilliant business plan you have to admit!

Sod'o swords

Steffano2002 wrote: »

Seriously though, why the hell did Treyarch get the contract for CoD5 anyway? *Sigh*

Because IW couldn't develop two games at once.
They wanted to release cod5 early but couldn't work on it with making cod4 and all.

Steffano2002

Sod'o swords wrote: »

Because IW couldn't develop two games at once.
They wanted to release cod5 early but couldn't work on it with making cod4 and all.

Yeah I know it's because it makes "business sense" but I don't mind waiting 2 years before a new "proper" CoD game is realeased!

Anyway, I'm going to stop bashing Treyarch now because CoD5 might actually turn out to be a good, fun game! Best of luck to them!

Shiminay

Well, taking WW2 as our theme, don't you think there are possibilities to replicate or replace some of the gadgetry or things that COD4 made it's own?

Completely off the top of my head, you could be defending against an air raid with AA weaponry or being the bomber and having to pick out a target in a city. Could be even more fun than that level where you're shooting things to oblivion from your plane. If they made it in such a way that the success of the bombing run/defence had a big impact on the difficulty of the next level (e.g. did you bomb that tank factory? No, there's gonna be tanks coming so).

Multiplayer, the class system would work and there aren't really many of the COD4 perks that wouldn't translate. I could see Airstrikes still being a part of it, UAVs and Helicopters, obviously not.

Ultimately we'll just have to wait and see. It's interesting to see 2 developers working on the same franchise. If it's a case that Treyarch are just using the IW engine, then fair play. It cuts down development time and costs considerably.

Steffano2002

Pretty nifty ideas for the SP Mode there Kharn! Maybe you should give IW/Treyarch a call and give them some good ideas!

faceman

Unless COD5 has some revolutionary game play to it i will be giving this a big fail sticker.

(Note to game makers: Revolutionary game play does NOT equate to "if you shoot the glass, a special graphics engine makes the glass shatter as random as it does in real life".)

Shiminay

I've clearly missed my calling Steffano

Other thoughts:
a sub-marine hunt level as either a UBoat or the Admiral of the fleet trying to get them all whilst defending a convoy.
Being part of the floatilla that went to France from England to rescue everyone.
Picking up clues about Enigma during each mission as a side-plot with a view to revealing enemy plans later in the game.
etc
etc

I'd love to hear other people's ideas, just for fun.

As I said, if they're using the IW COD4 engine, there's scope for a lot of different ideas as there's a lot to work with there and it is more than capible of making everything look great.

Also: lol @ faceman's glass comment.

robby^5

Well I did happen to notice one possible new feature, in the trailer a sniper climbs a tree. That could be rather interesting with the gilly suits on!Personally I'm looking forward to this, could be the first decent next gen ww2 fps. I'm hoping they concentrate more on the pacific theater, because I think it's not received as much attention as the european side of things.

There's lots of things I want to see, banzai charges, Japanese officers weilding their swords coming at you, suicidal japanese tactics such as acting dead and then exploding themselves as you walk by, plus all the new Japanese weaponry that would make it's first appearance in the cod series.

I'd love to see a level defending an aircraft carrier while it's planes take off, you shoot down a plane and then it makes a kamikaze charge at you so you'd have to shoot it down again, fast.

From the trailer it looks like you might be playing as the British is Holland, which would be awesome, parachute missions could be possible so.

Something I'd also like to see is some black american troops, would be a nice change of pace from the usual stereotypical ww2 soldiers we're accustomed too, who are usually plagirisms of saving private ryan or band of brothers characters

Playing as the bad guys in the campaign would also be quite intersing, I noticed in the trailer the voice over is done in english and japanese, so possibility of playing as Japanese soldier? taking part in a banzai charge, that would be epic.

robbingood

yep tyrearch are in charge of cod5,not infinity ward.its gona be set in pacific so enemiie will be imperialist japanese soldiers whose methods of attacks will be fucosed more on ambush and element of surprise rather than walls of enemies coming at you.dissapointed myself theyve gone back to ww2 as i thought theyd move on from the first 3titles plus itd be hard improve on cod2 for ww2 genre.cod 5 due to be released in nov08.they have screenshots and preview on www.gameinformer.com.rumor about that cod6 is to be set in futuristic settings with infinity back in charge

ironictoaster

I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt. It might be a good game. Looking forward to flamethrowers online

heebusjeebus

I'm very open to CoD 5. After all Treyarch(Gray Matter) did give us CoD United Offensive and that multiplayer was incredible. A welcome return to 64 player maps with vehicles.

Base Assault FTW

Sod'o swords

I seem to be part of a minority who are not fans of vehicles.
Which BF servers do you think are the best, infantry only for myself by far, there's at least some teamwork(mainly because it's quicker to spawn on a squad leader).
If you see there's 6 enemies in a building, i can go in and kill them all.
Yet if i'm in a tank, and there's two tanks ahead, 9 times out of ten the two tanks will win.
Not much skill in vehicles, except for maybe certain flying vehicles and rare occasions in land veichles. I know there may be stories of how you defeated 4 tanks or walkers. But how often do you do that?

So i'd much more fancy and infantry only game for mp.

Steffano2002

I'm with you on that one Sod'o swords! I didn't like CoD:UO at all... Hated the vehicle and huge maps... Hope there won't be any of that in CoD5!

Andyfbt

the only way they can improve on COD4 with a COD5 WWII game is if you could do a lot more stuff. Some of the perks will disapear because they wouldn't have been created and also some of the weapons would have to be downscaled. I am only talking about Multiplayer as that's all I play and it would be great it you were able to go into higher buildings in bigger European cities. Also it would be better if shooting someone was more realistic in that if you are not getting shot in an area that would kill you then you don't drop dead straight away. I have often been lying beind something and my foot is just sticking out and someone shoots me a few times in it and i am dead. It should just take small amounts off your energy bar and give you a chance to drag yourself out of range. Then you should not be able to walk. Someone can come and finish you off with a bullet to the head or whatever or you could try crawl or even hop to safety until your wound heels. In COD4 you only fall to the ground if you have last stand otherwise you just stand there all the time which is unrealistic cause when you are shot you would naturally fall. It's too easy to kill someone if you get a lock on because you shoot them they die or they have last stand and fall to the ground and then you aim down and kill them. If it depended on what way you shot them before they fell it would be much better. Could make for some good kills as well if they were on a building and they fell backwards but didn't die until they hit the ground

Sod'o swords

I'm fairly sure they won't have the whole perk thing that they do in cod4.

Cato

i read that they are going to make a squad feature, somewhat similar to BF2, supposed to promote more team play and more bonuses for sticking together in a group which sounds better than perks (never really liked the idea of perks, to consoly).

Elem

It looks a lot better than your average world war II game :P

starwidow

it's going to be epic can't wait

Carroller

Lukker- wrote: »

. Treyarch were responsible for CoD3 which was an epic fail of a game.

Not exactly, alot of players now that have had all the COD games prefer Treyarch to InfinityWard and would rather see it back in there hands.
Personally: i cant wait to see it back in WWII they were always the best games and this time its against the japanese.

Kashkai

Sounds very boring to me. WW2 has been done to death. There's lots more wars to fight in - humans are very good at that sort of thing.

As for the Pacific setting, Medal of Honor Rising Sun and Pacific Assault both still send shivers down my spine when I think how awful these games were, Rising Sun in particular. I know EA did these games and not IW or Treyarch but the Pacific theatre of war was mostly jungle fighting and this leads to very boring backgrounds of green, green and more green.

They should have brought out an expansion pack to COD4 similar to UO to keep things ticking over until Infinity Ward released the next real COD. This expansion pack could have included vehicles, a hunt for more missing nukes, terrorists etc.

yeah man

Yeah played conflict vietnam for ps2, i thought it was a pretty good game, but most people thought it was s**t, i always loved the conflict: desert storm games though, if u liked them C:V was a great game :-)

NotWormBoy

I wouldn't mind a version set in Vietnam, but I doubt we'll be getting that as it wasn't a glorious US victory and troops weren't the best behaved. Its got some potential though, and doesn't have to drop too much of a tech level. Imagine the scene from Apocalypse Now with Col. Killgore's choppers attacking the village playing the Ride of the Valkyries done COD style? That would rock. Or Platoon's final defensive battle as the traditional "hold out until relieved" mission we get in COD levels. You could even have Gunnery Sergeant Hartmann in the training mission.

Wishful thinking I know.

Andyfbt

They wouldn't do a vietnam game for the exact reasons in the post above. It would sell in America. In my opinion WWII is done to death. It will be intersting to see what other stuff they have, like sticking there ideas to make people stick together as teams, but would have rathered a present day fictional war.

BazMcG

In my mind, modern day warfare is the way forward. Hard to beat the claymores, all the modern perks etc. I loved the MOH games especailly allied assault but unless they take a really unique and new approach to the WWII genre i wont get very excitied over COD5. Its the Multiplayer that will win it for me tho, so if they get that right ill be happy either way.