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ATH5: A Sloberknocker with words!

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,478 ✭✭✭Bubs101


    Orton kicks Hogan twice and still doesnt get the 3 count ?. Even if he's getting the rub to retire him, does this not make him seem weak? having to use 3 finishers on him. Also dont you think Orton has got enough wins of legends to be confirmed as the legend killer? .

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    Taker had to use 4 finishers on Edge, in fact he does it all the time now and does that make him seem weak? No.Wrestlemania is all about spectacle and part of Hulkster's allure is his ability to come back from absolutely anything and win. It set's it up so fans think he's going to pick up the win and stay in the company. it's all about the big surprise. Also keep in mind that Orton won't be full strength after surviving an MITB match. Orton certainly has enough wins over legends to allow him use the title but surely even you will admit that retiring the Hulkster is on a completely different level to beating some Legends


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 23,108 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    Current Leaderboard
    Danger Dave (18)
    Danger Dave (69)
    Bubs101 (19)
    Bubs101 (69)
    Cactus Col (17)
    Cactus Col (68)
    Machismo Fan (16)
    Machismo Fan (66)
    John Concannon (17)---John Concannon (63)

    Muff Daddy (18)

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    Bubs101: very good answer the Taker vs Hogan big money streak/retirement match and the Legend Killer killing the biggest legend of em all (argueably), prob only not a 20 as it seems to lump too many useable angles into one match i.e Hogans retirement despite the fact that takers streak is broken while the MITB is also used the same night its won. good answer though

    John Concannon- Much better answer but no mention of why it would be his retirement match

    Machismo Fan: not bad but I dunno would ending arguably the biggest name in Wrestling history's career due to a storylined injury would be right.

    Cactus Col: another very good answer but no refernece as to why this is Hogans last match, even if you mentioned that on the following Raw he came out and made a retirement speach youd have gotten a very high score.

    some of you kinda answerd the following quesstion in Rd4 but..
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    ATH:Round 5
    Q.If someone from the current WWE roster was to end the Undertakers undefeated streak at mania, who would you give the honour to? and how would you have it happen?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 474 ✭✭john concannon


    Current Leaderboard
    Danger Dave (18)
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    Bubs101 (19)
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    Cactus Col (17)
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    Machismo Fan (16)
    Machismo Fan (66)
    John Concannon (17)---John Concannon (63)

    Muff Daddy (18)

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    Bubs101: very good answer the Taker vs Hogan big money streak/retirement match and the Legend Killer killing the biggest legend of em all (argueably), prob only not a 20 as it seems to lump too many useable angles into one match i.e Hogans retirement despite the fact that takers streak is broken while the MITB is also used the same night its won. good answer though

    John Concannon- Much better answer but no mention of why it would be his retirement match

    Machismo Fan: not bad but I dunno would ending arguably the biggest name in Wrestling history's career due to a storylined injury would be right.

    Cactus Col: another very good answer but no refernece as to why this is Hogans last match, even if you mentioned that on the following Raw he came out and made a retirement speach youd have gotten a very high score.

    some of you kinda answerd the following quesstion in Rd4 but..
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    ATH:Round 5
    Q.If someone from the current WWE roster was to end the Undertakers undefeated streak at mania, who would you give the honour to? and how would you have it happen?

    Thanks for the proper marking


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 516 ✭✭✭Danger_Dave


    ATH:Round 5
    Q.If someone from the current WWE roster was to end the Undertakers undefeated streak at mania, who would you give the honour to? and how would you have it happen?

    I would give the honour to Mr Ken Kennedy . First off i would turn Undertaker Heel. Through out the summer Undertaker will feud with Edge and Big show. the week after Survivor Series he will be tagging with Batista against Edge and Mark Henry. Undertaker beating down on edge and nearing a win but Batista will go for blind tag near the end of the match and get the pin. With this undertaker is infuriated and launches into an attack on Batista. Cuts him open and leaves him bloodied and beaten in the middle of the ring. Batista Next week on Raw gets a win over Big show for the title shot at Armageddon. Batista Wins, the match is portrayed in way to show undertaker losing some of his power, speed, agility. (The commentators will push this and the following weeks leading up to the Royal Rumble)

    The Night after Armageddon , Undertaker comes out demanding a title shot that very night. Vickie Guerrero comes out and states that edge is the number one contender for the title at the royal rumble. Vickie offers Undertaker a last man standing match against Mark Henry the following week on smackdown for a place in the royal rumble. Later that night undertaker is backstage when he see's Jimmy wang yang laughing with some backstage people. He decides to destroy him backstage and throw's him threw a window to vent his anger. Undertaker wins his match against mark henry the following week.

    To bring ken kennedy into the angle. Its time build ken kennedy into a main eventer and what better way than to get 3 count off undertaker at Wrestlemania. Mr Kennedy will be drafted to Smackdown around Summer Slam. Kennedy's Face push will be continued with a feud with MVP, leading in a kennedy win. He also beat morrison, chuck palumbo. He will also feud with Mark Henry and pick up a clean victory at Survivor Series . Kennedy's promo's will continue to portray him as a cocky face. Laughing and joking, challenging heel's to matches.

    The Royal Rumble. Undertaker comes out at number 12, and after a few minutes he starts to clear house and he seems like the old undertaker. Undertaker and a few others are in the ring when number 20 comes out its Ken Kennedy ! . When gets into the ring he runs at undertaker who is near the ropes with his back turned, kennedy up ends him out of the ring. Close up to undertakers face as he realizes he's been eliminated. He gets back into the ring and attacks kennedy, lands a chock slam and throws him over the top rope.

    Smackdown after the Royal Rumble. Mr kennedy comes to the ring and Launches into a verbal attack on Undertaker for eliminating at the royal rumble after he had already been taken out of the match. Vickie guerreo comes out to say that undertaker has been suspended for 2 weeks because of the incident. She states a match has been set of No way out . Ken kennedy vs The Undertaker.

    No Way Out. Normal Singles match. Undertaker tries to use a chair during the match. but the referee prevents it. The fight continues and Kennedy is getting the upper hand. Undertaker pokes him in the eye and kennedy turns around. Then Boom! undertaker uses the chair on kennedy and lays him out. Referee calls for the bell, but undertaker is not finished. Undertaker gets chains from under the mat. He chokes out kennedy and leaves the arena. Kennedy requires a stretcher and his is carried into a ambulance.

    The week on smackdown undertaker is happy with himself. He is booked in a match with Jamie Noble and destroys him. When the match finishes Theodore Long comes out and says Vickie Guerrero is not here and hes going to book a match at Wrestlemania involving the Undertaker. It will be undertaker vs Ken Kennedy in a No Disqualification match. Mr kennedy is on Smackdown the following week and wins a tag match against the undertaker in the main event with batista (Champion), undertaker partner is the Big show.

    After several promo's by Ken kennedy leading up to wrestlemania were he say he will get his revenge for what undertaker did to him. Undertaker comes out and just say's "16-0" and walks out.

    The match is a typical NO DQ match,Undertaker starts to get the upperhand and brings him outside close to the stage and is going for a last ride on some electrical equipment, however kennedy counters into a back body drop on to the floor, he stands the undertaker up and throws undertaker into a collapsible part of the stage and it falls around him. Eventually they go back into the ring, Undertaker lands a Choke Slam but can only gets a 2 count, he is jumps out of the ring and gets a steel chair. He goes to use it but kennedy dodges around him and lands a superkick into it to knock the chair out of his hands. Kennedy uses the chair several times on undertaker in the ring but kennedy still cant get the 3 count. So he puts the chair over his face and and lands a swaton bomb on him. He gets the 3 count to end undertakers winning streak.

    After this win Kennedy will go into a program with Batista for World Heavy Weight Title, and win it,Developing a Winning streak that makes kennedy the next Great thing in the WWE.


    P.S I had a power out when i was just about to post this, so i had to re do it :mad: .


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 23,108 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    *cough*

    Final answers due today people, will allow till much later than usual as its the final answer but answers are needed to avoid a champ by defaut (which would be Danger Dave being the only one to answer this rounds Q so far) and after participating in 4 rounds thus far, tis worth finishing.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 474 ✭✭john concannon


    I would give it to John Cena as a draw.He needs to have some solid matches before this though.

    Undertaker is world heavyweight champion and is going to retire(shoot) as the winner of a 17-0 streak if he wins his match.He is without a title contender due to injuries caused by the gogoplata.Draftee John Cena who is trying to earn the respect of the fans calls Undertaker out for a mania title shot.Taker comes out to a standing ovation.Taker agrees.But only if Cena wins the rumble.

    Cena wins and at the end of the ppv Taker comes out.They show Cena stand toe to toe with Taker.

    For the next few months they build John Cena as a man who would do anything for a win.Cena is an unstopable force that is the biggest threat to Taker's reign.

    During Mania they have an awesome match.They are both dejected.Cena hits an FU but Taker hts a DDT at the same time.The ref gives a 10 count.It's a draw.At the end of the match Taker announces he is retiring.Both men shake hands.Cena is the future but Taker is now the past.The crowd give a several minute standing ovation.The entire roster of WWE come out and applaud him.
    It signals the end of a glorius career.

    The reason I would give the draw is because they would like to be able to say Taker was unbeaten at Mania.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,478 ✭✭✭Bubs101


    The man that I would have defeat the streak is John Morrison. He is extremely talented in the ring and on the mic and has cut a great heel character since his emergence. He has succeeded with every bone the WWE has thrown him. MNM were great tag team champions and he was the clear standout. He made a fine transitional Intercontinental champ. When he benefited from the Benoit tragedy he did better than anybody ever expected him to do outshining CM Punk on a regular basis (while Kennedy floundered on Raw) until his suspension and ATM with the Miz he is the best thing going on ECW and Smackdown ATM. It is about time he was given a big Main Event push as he ha smore than proved himself in the midcards. He is also under 30 meaning the WWE could create a new superstar by giving him the Taker streak. I also feel that a match this big should definitly be for the title

    I would do it the traditional way which is the Rumble. Taker would win his title back that night as Morrison wins the Royal Rumble throwing HBK out last. Him and HBK had entered at 12 and 13 respectively and had spent the majority of the Rumble trying to eliminate the other. Morrison would injure HBK when eliminating him. The next night on Raw, the rumble winner would do his usual speil about which champion to face when HBK interrupts him right before he makes the announcement. Morisson gets ready for a fight but HBK offers to shake his hand and tells him that he was very impressed and that Morrison reminds him of a young Shawn Micheals. He offers his services as a manager and Morrison accepts. HBK sets up a face vs. face programme with HHH for No Way Out for Morrison to prepare him for whichever champion he faces. Hunter and Morrison trade victories on Raw until No Way Out where, with the assistance of HBK, Morrison cheats Triple H out of a win using Hunter's own sledgehammer to turn the two of them into heels.

    The final match of the night would see Taker retain against Edge. After the match Morrison rushes into the ring and delivers a savage beating on an already tired Taker while HBK grabs the mic announcing that Morrison will be challenging for the World Heavyweight Title. In the weeks before Wrestlemania, under the direction of HBK, Morrison conducts a number of Guerilla warfare assaults on Taker during his matches and evading his retaliation while beating the likes of Henry and Big Daddy V to continue his impressive wins over larger superstars building him up for Wrestlemania. On the Go Home show Taker finally gets close to Morrison but he just evades him. Taker however gets his hands on HBK and delivers a chilling message to Morrison one the eve of Wrestlemania.

    The match would headline the PPV. Morrison would come down with a heavily bandaged HBK on crutches who would sit in with the commentators, kicking Adamle out of his seat. The match would start evenly enough but Taker would start to dominate after 5 minutes and would then get the chokeslam in. He goes for the pin and gets a close 3 count but is interrupted by HBK's crutch. The ref ejects HBK from ringside so Morisson must prove himself alone. Morrison gets the upper hand but as he tries to hit the moonlight drive Taker reverses into the Last Ride and goes for the pin but Morrison hits the ropes. Taker continues to dominate and goes for the Tombstone but Morrison reverses into a small package from behind and gets a close 3 count. The momnetum begins to shift and after Morrison hits his trademark moves he gets the Moonlight Drive in and hits the 3 count. Morisson celebrates beating the streak with the title when Taker offers him a handshake. Morrison accepts but then low blows Taker and hits the Moonlight Drive on Taker onto the title leaving a bloody Taker in the ring and cementing his place as one of the companies top heels and finally giving him the chance to be the next HBK


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 23,108 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    what with the late responses to this round i wont be able to read through and mark answers / crown a new champ until after work tomorow 4-5ish so cactus and Machismo you still have time to enter rd5


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭Cactus Col


    ATH:Round 5
    Q.If someone from the current WWE roster was to end the Undertakers undefeated streak at mania, who would you give the honour to? and how would you have it happen?



    Sorry for the late reply .... it's gonna have to be a quick one.

    I would have MVP defeat Undertaker and end his wrestlemania win streak.

    I do believe that MVP is a future WH Champion and with the work he's been doing with Matt Hardy, and improvements he's made through his involvement with Kane and Christ Benoit, he has shown himself to have huge potential.

    I would have Matt Hardy win the royal rumble to face Edge at mania, but during the rumble MVP would eliminate The Undertaker, in some sneaky underhanded way. Building towards no way out another two elimination chambers are scheduled, one for Raw, and one for Smackdown.

    The Smackdown match will feature Finlay, Kane, MVP, Taker, Chavo, and Batista. Taker and Batista start the match, with Kane coming in next. Then Finlay and Chavo. MVP is last out of his stall. Just before he comes out Kane hits Taker with a chokeslam, but is attacked by chavo before he can make a pinfall. Then Batista hits taker with 2 batista bombs, before Finlay takes out batista with a shilleleigh. Taker is lying prone in the ring as MVP is released, he quickly grabs a pin!

    They face off a number of times on smackdown, with MVP playing the honky tonk card, and doing anything to avoid getting pinned. He cheats, he goes for count outs, he lets his tag team partner take the fall.

    Teddy Long comes out .... he makes the mania match a no dq last man standing match. It's a knockout brawl. Both men pull out all the stops and holds. Chairshots, tables, ladders, baseball bats. They're all used here. MVP makes use of interference from Big Daddy V, Mark Henry, AND JBL (hell, he came back as part of the APA a short while back, and MVP has money to hire him!).

    Eventually a double chair shot, both men go down for the count, it's the rocky 2 finish. As the ref reaches 9, MVP makes his way to his feet, Taker can't. MVP wins! The crowd boos and riots.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 23,108 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    Final Standings
    Danger Dave (18)
    Danger Dave (87)
    Bubs101 (19)
    Bubs101 (88)
    Cactus Col (17)
    Cactus Col (85)
    John Concannon (17)---John Concannon (80)
    Machismo Fan (66)
    Muff Daddy (18)

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    Bubs101: Before reading your answer i wouldent have chosen Morrison but now im not sure really great answer and if done as suggested it would create a seriously huge young heel star in Morrison. well done

    John Concannon- again a better answer and Cena vs Taker at mania really would draw although as a draw (the result-double count out) it wouldent actually end the undertakers undefeated streak and thats what the question looked for

    Machismo Fan: missed the final round

    Danger Dave: again i dont know if I would pick Kennedy although this answer could make me question that but unfortunatley not as much Bubs101's did. good answer though hard luck overall, v good effort

    Cactus Col: nothing majorly wrong with your answer but it didnt really grab my attension either and for an angle that would involve pretty much the biggest rub a wrestler can get i think more is needed. good v.solid effort from you though on the whole, never a poor answer

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    Congratulations ATH5 Champion Bubs101


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 516 ✭✭✭Danger_Dave


    Congratulations to Bubs ! Well deserved , Two scores of 19 is hard to compete with. Thought i was going to win by Default but not to be :) .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭Cactus Col


    Yeah, well done Bubs! And cheers Bounty! Hope there's another one of these soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭Machismo Fan


    Ahh, even if I got a last answer in and got 20, I still couldn't win. Good win Bubs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 474 ✭✭john concannon


    Fair play Bubs.Thanks four the quiz Bounty Hunter


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