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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭HITMANHEALY


    Draupnir wrote: »
    there were a good few guys practicing in Shandon today ahead of the weekends qualifying, I'd expect some good scoring as the course is playing well and is in great condition

    Very little activity in the post kingdom made on the forums forum requesting a dedicated pitch and putt forum, get over there and show your support lads, its under sys in the menu

    Finally, ierne beat shandon 6 3 in the gents juniors last night

    Hows the greens in shandon, and are they soft or hard


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 DugOut


    No I wont be going to watch the finals as I didn't paly in the qualifying as I could not make the finals if I had qualified. Id say it would be hard to follow scoring in the final 18 of a scramble!
    Here Here Dugout, we have a handicap of 1 2/3 so we need to do 17/18 under each round to qualify, the final 36 will make the final for sunday in rgsc, then18 for the final 18. The ppui should have allowed 5 gross teams through out of 21 in dublin and everywhere else in ireland as well 1/4 of the tema s gross 3/4 nett, then run a seperate prize.

    Will u be going to watch it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭Wigertoods


    DugOut wrote: »
    Lads, from looking at the timesheet for the finals to me it seems that it's a straight 36 holes, 18 in Lucan and 18 in RGSC with the winner being the best nett score for the 36 holes.

    I have to say that the organisation of this competition has been poor from the PPUI perspective. Looking at the qualifiers it gave 3 senior player's very little chance against well handicapped teams. There are a couple of exceptions like the Loughlinstown lads but overall there are only a couple of senior teams after qualifying from around the country. I believe there needs to be some sort of gross scoring incorporated otherwise teh PPUI are limiting the competition to high handicappers.

    Have to agree that the organization was a little on the poor side.Information was not very forthcoming and even now that the qualifying is over people are still not sure of the format for the finals.

    In defense of the NEC it is the first time the comp has been run and maybe they will get things together in the future.
    must also say that from the teams that qualified for the finals,not many of the top players are involved (no disrespect to any of the Loughlinstown seniors but the qualifying was on their course and they all had a big big advantage there).

    Maybe the top players don't like scrambles ? or maybe the competition is not suited to low handicaped teams but surely the NEC must realize that a national event really should have the best players in the land competing at some point.I think the NEC should rethink the format for this event if it is to continue in the coming years.

    On another point best of luck to all qualifiers this sunday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭FlawedGenius


    thebuyer wrote: »
    thanks wigertoods . might get in touch with kingswood to see if they'll have me!

    Kingswood is fairly close to Clondalkin village (CPM).I play there, wed be more then happy to have ya as wer looking 4 new members.Even if u dont join, green fees ar only 5 Euro.Its a decent course aswel, a few river shots for ya.Theres a MCers across de road, its ideal lol.The membership is only around 50 quid - cheapest in Dublin i think.Come down anytime..No point in going to public courses man


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭HITMANHEALY


    Wigertoods wrote: »
    Have to agree that the organization was a little on the poor side.Information was not very forthcoming and even now that the qualifying is over people are still not sure of the format for the finals.

    In defense of the NEC it is the first time the comp has been run and maybe they will get things together in the future.
    must also say that from the teams that qualified for the finals,not many of the top players are involved (no disrespect to any of the Loughlinstown seniors but the qualifying was on their course and they all had a big big advantage there).

    Maybe the top players don't like scrambles ? or maybe the competition is not suited to low handicaped teams but surely the NEC must realize that a national event really should have the best players in the land competing at some point.I think the NEC should rethink the format for this event if it is to continue in the coming years.

    On another point best of luck to all qualifiers this sunday.


    Wiger i do agree with some of ur comments, it does suit the higher handicaper competitions, if they dont change it, it be a shame, i do have an idea and would like comments on it what do u think of off a senior/inter/junior palying together male/female. that might level of the standard.

    Also regarding the comments about Loughlinstown - I think if you look at most of these competitions since i ever played it, the grip or dublin couty scramble, we have won a prize and over the last 5 years, we have won the overall gross 3 times and other loughlinstown teams win a least a prize, so it shows when it comes to team comps we have the edge over all dublin teams to be honest. there was a big advantage playing at home but in the end of the day u have to preform


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭Dromcill


    Thats a good idea HITMAN about having mixed teams in the National Scramble in terms of handicaps (one senior, one intermediate, one junior). This would definitely level things up. The only problem I see is that I find that a lot of seniors do not like playing with juniors so it could be hard to get a lot of teams to enter.

    Regardless, something needs to be done. Some of the top senior players in Cork have said that they would not play in the National Scramble again due to its current format,

    One thing I like about the finals is that you have to play on two courses. This will help to eliminate the home club advantage somewhat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭HITMANHEALY


    Dromcill wrote: »
    Thats a good idea HITMAN about having mixed teams in the National Scramble in terms of handicaps (one senior, one intermediate, one junior). This would definitely level things up. The only problem I see is that I find that a lot of seniors do not like playing with juniors so it could be hard to get a lot of teams to enter.

    Regardless, something needs to be done. Some of the top senior players in Cork have said that they would not play in the National Scramble again due to its current format,

    One thing I like about the finals is that you have to play on two courses. This will help to eliminate the home club advantage somewhat.

    Well it wont be mixed it can be any team out together like 3 men/3 women or mixed whatever suits


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,548 ✭✭✭Draupnir


    The greens in Shandon were firm on Thursday and the grass was a bit long on them too. The course has been closed all day today and I believe there was a full days work going in to the course so I'd expect it to be much different to how it played during the week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭Wigertoods


    Wiger i do agree with some of ur comments, it does suit the higher handicaper competitions, if they dont change it, it be a shame, i do have an idea and would like comments on it what do u think of off a senior/inter/junior palying together male/female. that might level of the standard.

    Also regarding the comments about Loughlinstown - I think if you look at most of these competitions since i ever played it, the grip or dublin couty scramble, we have won a prize and over the last 5 years, we have won the overall gross 3 times and other loughlinstown teams win a least a prize, so it shows when it comes to team comps we have the edge over all dublin teams to be honest. there was a big advantage playing at home but in the end of the day u have to preform

    One person per grade in each team is a very good idea.
    Something to be looked at.

    As for the scramble I think the scores you produced were excellent on the day but I still feel that getting all 4 senior teams through shows a big home advantage.Also I would have to say that over the last three years I have also been on the winning team in one of the team events and you might recall that last year the only reason you got the overall gross prize was because we got the nett:p

    Anyway how did you score in shandon today.?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭HITMANHEALY


    Wigertoods wrote: »
    One person per grade in each team is a very good idea.
    Something to be looked at.

    As for the scramble I think the scores you produced were excellent on the day but I still feel that getting all 4 senior teams through shows a big home advantage.Also I would have to say that over the last three years I have also been on the winning team in one of the team events and you might recall that last year the only reason you got the overall gross prize was because we got the nett:p

    Anyway how did you score in shandon today.?

    Wiger only wrote that taking the p*** ill put a note up of yesterday


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭HITMANHEALY


    Wigertoods wrote: »
    One person per grade in each team is a very good idea.
    Something to be looked at.

    As for the scramble I think the scores you produced were excellent on the day but I still feel that getting all 4 senior teams through shows a big home advantage.Also I would have to say that over the last three years I have also been on the winning team in one of the team events and you might recall that last year the only reason you got the overall gross prize was because we got the nett:p

    Anyway how did you score in shandon today.?

    Wiger only wrote that taking the p*** ill put a note up of yesterday below


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭HITMANHEALY


    The standard in the qualifying was very high as u would expect from of course of shandon, the greens were a bit bumpy and not cut tight nut over all no real complaints

    The best score of the day was 91 by Paul Nolan (great score)

    20 Players got though overall and the cut was at 100 (3 players on 100 got in with better back 18 scores)

    I was sitting on 15th place on 100 with 14 players to come in and the last 2 players on the course knocked me out, absolutely gutted cause i played ok and took no 4's for the first time in a qaulifying, anyway on to the next tourney.

    Good luck all who qualified


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭Dromcill


    Cork Qualifying Round Results for Munster Strokeplay[FONT=&quot]

    Senior Qualifying Round (Newcestown)
    [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]
    J O’Sullivan (St Anne’s) 93; F O’Donoghue (Templebredy) 93; P O’Sullivan (Majestic) 94; J Walsh (Collins) 94; J Cahill (Fermoy) 94; D O’Connor (ESB) 95; R Murphy (Templebreedy) 97; B Delaney (ESB) 97; J Looney (Collins) 98; E Shannon (do.) 98; L Conlon (St Stephen’s) 100; D Collins (St. Ann’s) 100; D Sexton (Fermoy) 100; C Foley (Douglas) 100; M Cahill (Fermoy) 101; R Donovan (Fermoy) 101; F Dineen (St. Anne’s) 101.

    Intermediate (Ballineen): 23 qualifers — R Chisholm (Rocklodge) 102 gross; M O’Donoghue (Douglas) 104; S O’Brien (Templebreedy) 104; M Ahern (Collins) 104; R O’Mahony (Ranges) 106; N O’donovan (Douglas) 106; B Murray (Lakewood) 107; P Horgan (Majestic) 108; D Quinn (Rocklodge) 108; F O’Donovan (Collins) 108; J McCarthy (Claycastle) 108; N McHale (St. Stephen’s) 108; M Walsh (Majestic) 108; J Dunlea (St. Anne’s) 109; N O’Donovan (Ballineen) 109; B Cusack (ESB) 109; G O’Sullivan (Pfizer) 110; P Cooper (Ballineen) 110; M Meade (Brinny) 110; B Crowley (ESB) 110; J Roche (Collins) 110; F Looney (Collins) 110; T Scannell (ESB) 110; P Collins (Majestic) 110.

    Junior (Pfizer): D Field 104 (Pfizer); I Leech (St. Stephen’s) 109. J O’Riordan (Inniscarra) 110; J White (Crosshaven) 110; C Richmond (Rocklodge) 110; S Noonan (Douglas) 111; P Creed (Kilmichael) 111; K O’Sullivan (Ballineen) 112.
    Ladies Cork County Strokeplay Championships (Brinny)

    [/FONT]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,548 ✭✭✭Draupnir


    100 was a very good score Gary hard luck, it was 36 holes with no handicaps am I correct? 91 is a great score indeed.

    I would be interested to hear your thoughts on the course at shandon, maybe and idea of which holes you liked, which ones u found toughest etc.?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭HITMANHEALY


    Draupnir wrote: »
    100 was a very good score Gary hard luck, it was 36 holes with no handicaps am I correct? 91 is a great score indeed.

    I would be interested to hear your thoughts on the course at shandon, maybe and idea of which holes you liked, which ones u found toughest etc.?

    Ye i played all 9's in 25 which was 2 under to make the 8, no handicaps were included, unfortunately i didnt take my chances in the 2nd round, the course is ok, wasnt really a fan of it a few years ago but it has improved some nice shots to some of the holes, they hid some of the pins behind bunkers which may it quite tricky, i like the third and the 11th hole tricky shots but nice holes and the 18th with the wind in ur face can be a toughy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭Wigertoods


    Conditions were good in shandon yesterday.Greeens were a bit slow in the morning from the dew but they dried out before the second round.
    Wind got up a bit for the afternoon session.would be interested to see how many qualifiers came from each session.
    Course was in good shape generally.A few tight pin positions as hitman has said already.I took a few silly 4's but made some good chances to finish on 97.Was very happy considering the limited practise I have been able to play recently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭HITMANHEALY


    Wigertoods wrote: »
    Conditions were good in shandon yesterday.Greeens were a bit slow in the morning from the dew but they dried out before the second round.
    Wind got up a bit for the afternoon session.would be interested to see how many qualifiers came from each session.
    Course was in good shape generally.A few tight pin positions as hitman has said already.I took a few silly 4's but made some good chances to finish on 97.Was very happy considering the limited practise I have been able to play recently.

    The qualifiers are up on www.dublinboardpp.ie

    Good to see u played well i catch up with next week at the matchplay


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,548 ✭✭✭Draupnir


    I notice there is a chap from CY playing named Paddy O'Connor. Would he be a young guy of about 25, fair haired?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭HITMANHEALY


    Draupnir wrote: »
    I notice there is a chap from CY playing named Paddy O'Connor. Would he be a young guy of about 25, fair haired?

    Ye he's about that age alright, good player to has represented dublin in the county championships a few times


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭Wigertoods


    Draupnir wrote: »
    I notice there is a chap from CY playing named Paddy O'Connor. Would he be a young guy of about 25, fair haired?

    That could be him alright.He qualified in shandon too on sunday.He would also be well known through the football.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭Wigertoods


    cheers hitman.wasn't fully fit.Hit a few really bad shots but recovered well.Happy to be able play at the moment.
    The qualifiers are up on www.dublinboardpp.ie

    Good to see u played well i catch up with next week at the matchplay



    Not unless you're coming over to Erin's Isle to play :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,548 ✭✭✭Draupnir


    Ah yes, that's how I know him mainly, played for belvedere with him as a schoolboy. Excellent goalkeeper, remember playing a juvenile league match against him in shandon and cy once too.

    Small world!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭HITMANHEALY


    Wigertoods wrote: »
    cheers hitman.wasn't fully fit.Hit a few really bad shots but recovered well.Happy to be able play at the moment.





    Not unless you're coming over to Erin's Isle to play :D

    Thats true mate good luck on that il see u on the 19th for leinster matchplay,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭HITMANHEALY


    Draupnir wrote: »
    Ah yes, that's how I know him mainly, played for belvedere with him as a schoolboy. Excellent goalkeeper, remember playing a juvenile league match against him in shandon and cy once too.

    Small world!

    Ye thats how u know him, what handicap u hopin to get in shandon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭Wigertoods


    Draupnir wrote: »
    Ah yes, that's how I know him mainly, played for belvedere with him as a schoolboy. Excellent goalkeeper, remember playing a juvenile league match against him in shandon and cy once too.

    Small world!

    yeah fine keeper alright.Not bad at the p&p either.
    Not sure who he's playing for now.Changes teams that much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭Wigertoods


    Thats true mate good luck on that il see u on the 19th for leinster matchplay,

    Sorry hitman won't be in loughlinstown for the leinster m/p.
    Can't make the finals if I did qualify.Wouldn't be fair to qualify then not turn up for the finals.
    I'm Sure I will see you on the circuit during the year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,548 ✭✭✭Draupnir


    no idea at the minute Gary, I've been shooting between -2 and +2 in practice. Will play a competition this weekend and see what they suggest


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭FlawedGenius


    Ye i played all 9's in 25 which was 2 under to make the 8, no handicaps were included, unfortunately i didnt take my chances in the 2nd round, the course is ok, wasnt really a fan of it a few years ago but it has improved some nice shots to some of the holes, they hid some of the pins behind bunkers which may it quite tricky, i like the third and the 11th hole tricky shots but nice holes and the 18th with the wind in ur face can be a toughy

    BAD LUCK GARY. I missed out myself on back 18 in Shandon in 2006 4 National.It hurts i know..Plenty of chances to make up for it anyway, at least ur playing well.Courteney and Malone missed out aswel - thats a bit of a suprise. Lucan on Saturday should be good


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 doylers08


    Dromcill wrote: »
    Cork Qualifying Round Results for Munster Strokeplay

    [FONT=&quot]Senior Qualifying Round (Newcestown) [/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]J O’Sullivan (St Anne’s) 93; F O’Donoghue (Templebredy) 93; P O’Sullivan (Majestic) 94; J Walsh (Collins) 94; J Cahill (Fermoy) 94; D O’Connor (ESB) 95; R Murphy (Templebreedy) 97; B Delaney (ESB) 97; J Looney (Collins) 98; E Shannon (do.) 98; L Conlon (St Stephen’s) 100; D Collins (St. Ann’s) 100; D Sexton (Fermoy) 100; C Foley (Douglas) 100; M Cahill (Fermoy) 101; R Donovan (Fermoy) 101; F Dineen (St. Anne’s) 101. [/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]Intermediate (Ballineen): 23 qualifers — R Chisholm (Rocklodge) 102 gross; M O’Donoghue (Douglas) 104; S O’Brien (Templebreedy) 104; M Ahern (Collins) 104; R O’Mahony (Ranges) 106; N O’donovan (Douglas) 106; B Murray (Lakewood) 107; P Horgan (Majestic) 108; D Quinn (Rocklodge) 108; F O’Donovan (Collins) 108; J McCarthy (Claycastle) 108; N McHale (St. Stephen’s) 108; M Walsh (Majestic) 108; J Dunlea (St. Anne’s) 109; N O’Donovan (Ballineen) 109; B Cusack (ESB) 109; G O’Sullivan (Pfizer) 110; P Cooper (Ballineen) 110; M Meade (Brinny) 110; B Crowley (ESB) 110; J Roche (Collins) 110; F Looney (Collins) 110; T Scannell (ESB) 110; P Collins (Majestic) 110. [/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]Junior (Pfizer): D Field 104 (Pfizer); I Leech (St. Stephen’s) 109. J O’Riordan (Inniscarra) 110; J White (Crosshaven) 110; C Richmond (Rocklodge) 110; S Noonan (Douglas) 111; P Creed (Kilmichael) 111; K O’Sullivan (Ballineen) 112. [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Ladies Cork County Strokeplay Championships (Brinny) [/FONT]
    Hi lads,
    I played in the cork qualiifier in newcestown and finished on 102,53 and 49 so just missed out.Not a good course i must say,greens were hard and some had bad patches.Some of the holes were nearly crossing each other.
    I was very surprised the scoring was high as it was.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭Dromcill


    Hi Doylers08, welcome to the Pitch and Putt stickie. Good to see another Cork man on board. You were unlucky with the qualifying missing by just one shot. From what I hear none of the qualifying courses in Cork (Newcestown, Ballineen or Pfizer) were in great nick which is a pity. Most courses are just after doing their maintenance work so they should be in good condition now. I guess conditions are the same for everyone but missing by one shot is hard to take as there are always one or two putts that you would have missed that just lipped the hole.

    Still the good thing is that at this time of year there is another competition just around the corner. Being a senior are you playing in the Cork section of the Matchplay qualifiers next week?


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