St John Ambulance

sgt.bilko

what part of the world are you both in ?

Im sth side dub

!!!!!conor!!!!!

The Real B-man wrote: »

Yes the new EMT Course will be similiar to Current First Responder Levels with a few extras obviously 4 week work placement has been mentioned.

Real B-Man it's a one week placement unless you were talking about the driving training aswell which is 3 weeks.

I personally don't think this will affect the vols that much as long as a realistic timeframe is put in place to have the first responders brought up to EMT.

sgt.bilko

what's the driver training? Is this a Phecc guideline also??

I'm all in favour BTW, beneficial to drivers and should also reduce insurance premiums for the organisations involved.

D.

moose112

There nothing def on the amount of time to be spent with the ambulance service.
voluntary services are currently arguing that its members have a certain amount of in house clinical service done already so the amount of hours still up in the air guys.

The Real B-man

sgt.bilko wrote: »

what part of the world are you both in ?

Im sth side dub

North Wicklow

sgt.bilko

Would that be the Bré unit by any chance?

A well organised unit , i have to say with a few ERAS lads & lassies to help out if i'm not mistaken . Keep up the good work

Kwekubo

sgt.bilko wrote: »

what's the driver training? Is this a Phecc guideline also??

I'm all in favour BTW, beneficial to drivers and should also reduce insurance premiums for the organisations involved.

D.

See www.phecit.ie/Documents/Education%20&%20Training/SectionH%20Edu%20&%20Train%20Standards.pdf

Fyr.Fytr

Its not compulsory, mearly advised.

Doing the driving or not has no effect on wethere you are awared NQEMT or not

whyohwhy

hey guys which of these would u think best to join ?my son is looking into becoming a fireman/ambulance service.hes 17 and i thought doing 1st aid course would be good idea but we dont kno which one wud b the best on cv ANY SUGGESTIONS

sgt.bilko

whyohwhy wrote: »

hey guys which of these would u think best to join ?my son is looking into becoming a fireman/ambulance service.hes 17 and i thought doing 1st aid course would be good idea but we dont kno which one wud b the best on cv ANY SUGGESTIONS

Any vol org is beneficial to your son.

send me a pm and i'll find out the closest org to you, obviously SJA is the best :D:D:D:D:D

N_Raid

whyohwhy wrote: »

hey guys which of these would u think best to join ?my son is looking into becoming a fireman/ambulance service.hes 17 and i thought doing 1st aid course would be good idea but we dont kno which one wud b the best on cv ANY SUGGESTIONS

As was said, any voluntary service and first aid qualification will look good on his CV. People could argue for ages about the merits of joining one org over the other. I'm a St. John member but basically the only reason was one of my mates was a member of the local division at the time (11 years ago. God I feel old. lol). So see if he can find out all the St. John/Omac/Red Cross divisions or units in the area, and maybe try to organise a visit and see which group of people he's most likely to fit in with and get along with. After all he could be training, working and socialising with these people at least once a week, possibly more depending on how invovled he wants to become.

patrickrushe

Hey,

Anyone who wants an idea of what St John Ambulance gets up to should take a look at a couple of the divisional websites out there.

City Of Dublin First Aid and Ambulance Division
Cork City First Aid and Ambulance Division
Cabinteely First Aid and Ambulance Division
Castleknock First Aid and Ambulance Division

There is also a national website:
http://sja.ie

Please post a reply with links to the divisions in other organisations if anyone has them..

Cheers
Pat R.

whyohwhy

hey thanks for the info a lot of these groups wont allow members until 18 order of malta said they will get bk to me tho..and im waiting will keep you guys posted..as his career day in rds 2weeks ago had no info at all ..strange they had all colleges garda etc but nobody with info on joining firebrigade/ambulance service for a career .

Fyr.Fytr

DFB never have stands, they always have huge demand for their places, no need to recruit.

OMAC will accecpt you for the seniors at 16, cadets at 10

patrickrushe

My advice is for him to drop into a fire station and ask to speak to the station officer if he is interested in joining up..

Also look at the forums http://irishambulance.net and http://irishfireservices.com.. The should have plenty of information.

Does anyone know the minimum age for joining either services? Once the time comes, he could always train privately. I know there is a place in Galway now that is offering Phecc registered Emergency Medical Technician courses. He can use this as a stepping stone to moving on up to being a fully trained paramedic.

His other option is to go to Liverpool or one of the UK universities. I was over at an open day for a paramedic course recently with someone who was thinking of doing it. I also have a friend doing the course there at the moment. He is loving it and the people are really nice. The brilliant thing about that particular course is the emphasis on clinical experience. You are basically out and about in an ambulance from day 1.

Basically, while it might come accross that it is a fairly closed shop, there are always opportunities open. Finding the info might seem hard at first, but if it is what he wants to do, GO FOR IT!!

Pat R.

patrickrushe

One other thing that sprung to mind. If he is interested in joining the fire service moreso than EMS, he might think about joining Auxilary Fire Service. I went to a couple of nights up in Nutgrove before my company shipped me off. It was good fun, and again the people were nice.

Tango Alpha 51

patrickrushe wrote: »

My advice is for him to drop into a fire station and ask to speak to the station officer if he is interested in joining up..

Also look at the forums http://irishambulance.net and http://irishfireservices.com.. The should have plenty of information.

Does anyone know the minimum age for joining either services? Once the time comes, he could always train privately. I know there is a place in Galway now that is offering Phecc registered Emergency Medical Technician courses. He can use this as a stepping stone to moving on up to being a fully trained paramedic.

His other option is to go to Liverpool or one of the UK universities. I was over at an open day for a paramedic course recently with someone who was thinking of doing it. I also have a friend doing the course there at the moment. He is loving it and the people are really nice. The brilliant thing about that particular course is the emphasis on clinical experience. You are basically out and about in an ambulance from day 1.

Basically, while it might come accross that it is a fairly closed shop, there are always opportunities open. Finding the info might seem hard at first, but if it is what he wants to do, GO FOR IT!!

Pat R.

I would guess that the min age is 21 since that's the age you need to be to legally obtain the relevant licences. EMS in this country is changing at a radical pace. We're doing more now in the last 3 yrs than we've done in the previous 20. The HSE National Ambulance Service run recruitment drives at least once a yr but this depends on the budget. We do struggle, yes the job is hard but I would not change this career for anything. Members of the public have seen massive changes in the treatment of their loved ones & it's only going to get better. This is not a rosy picture of life in the service as we do have problems like our colleagues in the AGS & the F&R.
In relation to the OP request, visit your local first aid organisation & see what they do. It will give your son some sort of an insight into the work we do all be it no where near the levels of calls, injuries etc. Some times people join a vol organisation with a view to doing it fulltime & realise that fulltime is not for them & that they would be happier doing the odd horsey event etc.

sgt.bilko

guys, this gent was in the paper today.

Now I know that some people will belittle him because of his age but fair play to him !

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/hero-has-seen-it-all-on-the-frontlines-of-first-aid-2341220.html

dory

You've a terrible view of people if you think people who belittle a 90 year olf man with 70 years service to a voluntary organisation!!

He sounds like an incredible man.

glennhysen

I was the St John's for a few years in the 90's based in Crumlin and I remember Mr Brady well. A true gentleman.

patrickrushe

Some details on Mr. Brady.

patrickrushe

St John Ambulance have launched a Facebook Page recently. Probably the best way to find out what the organisation is up to, both here in Ireland and overseas.

http://facebook.com/stjohn.ie

star gazer

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westliferule

I would love to do some work with Saint John Ambulance I went down to the Celbridge District on Thursday night the superintensdant told me I need to complete a first aid course first Im just wondeing are the first aid courses run in your local unit or are they in dublin? Also does it have to be a saint johns first aid cert or can it be from a diffrent organization?
Thanks

CMH1967

The member in charge should be able to provide you with all the information you need. Any course provided by the voluntaries is acceptable as are most courses taught by private companies subject to the course content been approved as been to the same standard.

The organisation itself runs courses maybe ask when the next one is alternatively the unit should welcome you until such time as you do the course although you will not be allowed into uniform till you are qualified.

westliferule

Im just wondering how Saint John Ambulance really works. I know there are diffrent levels such as first aiders Manual Handling, Cardiac First Responder, EFR and EMTS. I am just wondering when you start out as a first aider what are your duties? Also when you complete your first aid course are you allowed go straight out in duty or do you have to complete more training before you are allowed out on duty? I want to join but nobody seems to give me proper information. Please Help.

Thanks

patrickrushe

Hi Westlife Rule,

Please contact volunteer@stjohn.ie. We will put you in touch with a local division that can answer all your questions.

Kind regards,
Patrick Rushe
Officer in Charge - Dundrum Division of St. John Ambulance

excalibur the swordsman

They do very good work.

westliferule

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IrishKnight

westliferule wrote: »

I'm just wondering what are the eight ps when using an aed I know a few like pregnacy sweat piercings but can't remember rest of them please help have exam next week

Pacemaker
Pendants
Piercings
Patches
Paediatrics
Perspiration
Playtex (bra ie the underwire)
Pileous (hairy)