TV Licence

cson

RTÉ have got an increase of €2 in the TV licence to €160. In the grand scheme of ridiculousness I think our Government has set a new benchmark. To make consumers statutorily pay for a scutter service like that is madness. Leaving aside the crazy TV ads about the licence (I mean imho would you really be that embarrassed about not paying it?), the amount they pay the presenters is madness. I am afraid to google what Ryan Tubridy is earning.

The schtate of the place!

JIZZLORD

we're subsidising such fine home produced tv as you're a a star!

ScumLord

Well that does it! I had come around to the idea of paying the tv licence but that's the straw that broke the camel's back... Ye can frig right off!

Ah no, I wasn't really going to pay for my tv. I haven't gone completely mad.

It's not really allot of money in the grand scheme of things. If there's 2 million licence's that's only €4mill, which to a large corporation isn't exactly a huge amount of money. especially when a quarter of that goes straight into feeding Gerry Ryan.

cson

Still the whole fecking €160 is derickulous in the first place. You've just made my day there reminding me that part of it goes into Gerry Ryans pocket. :eek: *shuddder*

Rob_l

Your all right we dont need a national station do away with it we can rely on TV3 for our news and current affairs programming
and the national language station sure thats useless.

Overheal

I Dont Pay A Tv License Come Get Me Yeh ****ers

ScumLord

Rob_l wrote: »

Your all right we dont need a national station do away with it we can rely on TV3 for our news and current affairs programming
and the national language station sure thats useless.

I want to keep RTE some of it's shows are ok, we have good current affairs programs. My problem with RTE is they don't make an effort there doesn't seem to be any flare in the company. They're just trying to copy tv stations from oversees and they can't go toe to toe with these guys they just don't have the funds. They should be trying something new instead of pulling up the same faces to do the same shows.

whitetrash

Rob_l wrote: »

Your all right we dont need a national station do away with it we can rely on TV3 for our news and current affairs programming
and the national language station sure thats useless.

You really think you can rely on RTE for your news and current affairs? You don't think state-sponsored news might be a little biased?

cson

Rob_l wrote: »

Your all right we dont need a national station do away with it we can rely on TV3 for our news and current affairs programming
and the national language station sure thats useless.

TV3 does alright considering it doesn't get subsidised €160.

JIZZLORD

cson wrote: »

TV3 does alright considering it doesn't get subsidised €160.

lol
tv3 is a joke

aidan_walsh

cson wrote: »

TV3 does alright considering it doesn't get subsidised €160.

No, instead it gets money and a vast majority of its programming from parent company ITV.

GhostInTheRuins

Lads I don't see the problem with it. You have to admit it's value for money, with some excellent shows like The english class, Fair City, I dare ya, Seoige and O'Se, the afternoon show etc. And you can sleep soundly knowing you've given more money to Gerry Ryan to shovel burgers down his throat.

MOH

whitetrash wrote: »

You really think you can rely on RTE for your news and current affairs? You don't think state-sponsored news might be a little biased?

Not at all. And sure they have no influence whatsoever on who gos on discussion panels.

Timothy Bryce

ScumLord wrote: »

I want to keep RTE some of it's shows are ok, we have good current affairs programs. My problem with RTE is they don't make an effort there doesn't seem to be any flare in the company. They're just trying to copy tv stations from oversees and they can't go toe to toe with these guys they just don't have the funds. They should be trying something new instead of pulling up the same faces to do the same shows.

You should go to court and argue that only want to pay part of the license fee for the parts of the programming that you deem to quality and acceptable viewing!

Most TV networks rip each off in one way or another. TV3 are notorious for that sort of **** but RTE *do* put together some original programming not fleeced off other networks.

It's €160 lids FFS - just pay it like everyone else!

is_that_so

That's not even the price of a half pint RTE do get reviewed and it's not as if it's just handed to them. As for TV3 , well I find it hard to put the words "television" and "good" in the same sentence as TV3. Only ever watch it by accident.

ScumLord

Timothy Bryce wrote: »

You should go to court and argue that only want to pay part of the license fee for the parts of the programming that you deem to quality and acceptable viewing!

Most TV networks rip each off in one way or another. TV3 are notorious for that sort of **** but RTE *do* put together some original programming not fleeced off other networks.

It's €160 lids FFS - just pay it like everyone else!

No. Send your tv bitch I'll smack the face o' im.



Half RTEs homemade garbage is just repeats. HANDS!! FFS! it's as old as the hills, It's actually very watchable when your stoned but still.. Hands prime time RTE viewing.

whitetrash

MOH wrote: »

Not at all. And sure they have no influence whatsoever on who gos on discussion panels.

I dunno, some higher-up in RTE has a mate in gov who asks him to downplay some story or drop a guest from a late, late chat show. I wouldn't be surprised.

Zzippy

ScumLord wrote: »

It's not really allot of money in the grand scheme of things. If there's 2 million licence's that's only €4mill, which to a large corporation isn't exactly a huge amount of money. especially when a quarter of that goes straight into feeding Gerry Ryan.

Umm, not sure where you learned maths, but 2 million licences x €160 = €320 million. And that I would call a large amount of money!

Edit: just saw you meant the extra €2, hence the 4mill. Stil, its an extra 4mill on top of what they already get, for producing sh1te

nesf

Galwayguy99 wrote: »

Umm, not sure where you learned maths, but 2 million licences x €160 = €320 million. And that I would call a large amount of money!

It's nothing when you take Pat Kenny's salary into account.

TPD

Do you have to pay a tv licence if you have a computer with a tv-in card? Like if you moved into a house which already had an arial and all that, and didnt actually use a tv?

nesf

TPD wrote: »

Do you have to pay a tv licence if you have a computer with a tv-in card? Like if you moved into a house which already had an arial and all that, and didnt actually use a tv?

I know there was some debate about it but I'm not sure what the answer is. You might be better off asking the question in the Television forum, one of the guys there should know for definite.

Kipperhell

I never understand why people are so aggressive about not paying their licence. Relatively small amount in the scheme of things. I think it is really pathetic when somebody has a huge TV in their house that costs a couple of thousand and then go mental at the mention of paying a tv licence. I am also pretty sure every benefits from the fee as they use it to regulate transmissions such as ambulance frequencies too. Not sure though but it doesn't all go straight to RTE for sure.

Rob_l

whitetrash wrote: »

You really think you can rely on RTE for your news and current affairs? You don't think state-sponsored news might be a little biased?

I think its better than tv3 or sky for getting irish news\ current affairs progam

Rob_l

Kipperhell wrote: »

I never understand why people are so aggressive about not paying their licence. Relatively small amount in the scheme of things. I think it is really pathetic when somebody has a huge TV in their house that costs a couple of thousand and then go mental at the mention of paying a tv licence. I am also pretty sure every benefits from the fee as they use it to regulate transmissions such as ambulance frequencies too. Not sure though but it doesn't all go straight to RTE for sure.

Exactly


i think it works out a €13 a month
which as we all know is a massive amount most families in this country would struggle to afford

constitutionus

im sooooo glad i dont pay this.

of course when they make the liscence cover PCs im fooked.

Timothy Bryce

ScumLord wrote: »

No. Send your tv bitch I'll smack the face o' im.



Half RTEs homemade garbage is just repeats. HANDS!! FFS! it's as old as the hills, It's actually very watchable when your stoned but still.. Hands prime time RTE viewing.

Wow - I think you and I are watching 2 very different versions of the same channel.

Maybe your VCR is stuck and that's why you're seeing so many 'repeats' - perhaps you're too stoned off your tits to notice?

Also - I'm not the TV license guy. I won't be sending 'my tv bitch for you to smack'

Mossy Monk

aidan_walsh wrote: »

No, instead it gets money and a vast majority of its programming from parent company ITV.

ITV have no stake in TV3 anymore.

TPD wrote: »

Do you have to pay a tv licence if you have a computer with a tv-in card? Like if you moved into a house which already had an arial and all that, and didnt actually use a tv?

If you have a television tuner of any kind you are expected to pay for a tv license.

vorbis

Some people need to watch other tv networks before juding RTE so harshly!
The BBC is better for instance but their license fee is BIGGER and they have what 40 million + buying it.

The main US networks though produce an inordinate amount of ****e.
For every good show theres at least 3 reality / quiz shows. A lot of the comedies are dire as well. RTE for the budget it has compares very favourably to a weekly night on FOX, NBC or CBS.

The other thing RTE does well is news reporting. Its generally even and not hysterical. Appreciate the fact that they don't need to find a human interest angle to every story. CNN and FOX news are saturated with fear stories (killer on the LOOSE!) and have that fake talk ****e where the anchor acts all chirpy with the reporters.

Fact is, RTE is relatively a good Network station.

ScumLord

Timothy Bryce wrote: »

Maybe your VCR is

VCR?

RTE do show a hole heap of programing from early days of colour. One show was them taking a load of guinness down a canal, it was made in the 70-80s and was pure and utter ****e. Maybe it was just a summer thing?

I won't be sending 'my tv bitch for you to smack'

Spoilsport.

Timothy Bryce

ScumLord wrote: »

VCR?

RTE do show a hole heap of programing from early days of colour. One show was them taking a load of guinness down a canal, it was made in the 70-80s and was pure and utter ****e. Maybe it was just a summer thing?



Spoilsport.

Go back to sleep chief.

cooperguy

Its not just home produced stuff they buy in programmes from abroad. And some of it is very good aswell. And it pays for the radio stations. Its a bargain compared to some countries, you are getting value for your money.

humanji

ScumLord wrote: »

VCR?

RTE do show a hole heap of programing from early days of colour. One show was them taking a load of guinness down a canal, it was made in the 70-80s and was pure and utter ****e. Maybe it was just a summer thing?



Spoilsport.

See, the thing is, I actually find some of those old shows really interesting. For one, they show a world most of us here never knew. I mean, they made a show about bringing guinness down a canal. Nowadays canals are used for storing old shopping trolleys and bikes and the odd body. It's a look back at your own history.

And secondly, it also shows what Irish television was like back in the day, which is hilarious if you're stoned/drunk.

Rob_l

humanji wrote: »

See, the thing is, I actually find some of those old shows really interesting. For one, they show a world most of us here never knew. I mean, they made a show about bringing guinness down a canal. Nowadays canals are used for storing old shopping trolleys and bikes and the odd body. It's a look back at your own history.

And secondly, it also shows what Irish television was like back in the day, which is hilarious if you're stoned/drunk.

I like these programs and am a big fan of reeling in the years
Which is brilliant for remembering just how **** the 70's and 80's really were

SEPT 23 1989

how is your a star in the public service remit? why is it then when the 'party' leans on the state broadcaster it buckles under the pressure are we living in romania or albania during the cold war as i type i laugh in a mad sort of way
is any of this crap really getting under anybody elses skin or are we all numb to this now?

Timothy Bryce

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

how is your a star in the public service remit? why is it then when the 'party' leans on the state broadcaster it buckles under the pressure are we living in romania or albania during the cold war as i type i laugh in a mad sort of way
is any of this crap really getting under anybody elses skin or are we all numb to this now?

To some people 'You're a Star' constitutes quality Sunday prime time viewing.

I don't know who these people and what is wrong with them

ScumLord

humanji wrote: »

See, the thing is, I actually find some of those old shows really interesting. For one, they show a world most of us here never knew. I mean, they made a show about bringing guinness down a canal. Nowadays canals are used for storing old shopping trolleys and bikes and the odd body. It's a look back at your own history.

And secondly, it also shows what Irish television was like back in the day, which is hilarious if you're stoned/drunk.

Agreed ya, I actually like the fact that these shows are on but at the same time not even an oap could watch these things sober. I haven't had sky for about 10 years and don't miss it one bit I like having a few channels with varied content and don't so much mind those shows but Rte need to make an effort on other types of shows.

That show about the canal had no music and a really droll commentary nothing actually happened in the show. I had turned it off but got a bit of smoke and sat through the rest of the show it was really relaxing but at the same time I could have gone out and sat in a field and had the same experience.

Potential-Monke

I couldn't care less about tv licenses to be honest, but i shouldn't have to pay the license when i'm paying sky/chorus for their service, who are in turn paying RTÉ for broadcasting, thus doubling RTÉ's income...

Nightwish

Just got caught without a licence a few days ago. Played the "just moved in" card and was given a month to get one. €158...for what? As already mentioned I pay for chorus, and RTE get plenty of money from advertising.

Timothy Bryce

Nightwish wrote: »

Just got caught without a licence a few days ago. Played the "just moved in" card and was given a month to get one. €158...for what? As already mentioned I pay for chorus, and RTE get plenty of money from advertising.

Jesus - suck it up FFS.

It's a tax that everyone in the entire state gets shafted with and if you don't pay it you get taken down the District Court and shafted for 10 times the amount!

There has been much opposition to this over the years and nothing's ever changed so maybe just try dealing with it.

Mrs. MacGyver

Is it one TV licence oer house or is it per telly? I cna never seem to remember. I think E160 is a bit steep, the only interesting things on it are the nature programmes on RTE2.

ScumLord

My house doesn't exist on any government databases and you can't get to my front door without being let in another door which doesn't have any intercoms or nothin you have to ring me to get into the building. It's not quiet as shady as it sounds just a lucky setup.

Mossy Monk

Potential-Monke wrote: »

I couldn't care less about tv licenses to be honest, but i shouldn't have to pay the license when i'm paying sky/chorus for their service, who are in turn paying RTÉ for broadcasting, thus doubling RTÉ's income...

Oh really? Do some research please.

ScumLord

Hands is on right now, it's pure and utter ****e. Yerman sounds like Joe Duffy and he talks just as much ****e as him, pointless. They're shoeing a horse, it's a show about shoeing a ****in' horse.

Dublin looks weird in it though.

aidan_walsh

Mossy Monk wrote: »

ITV have no stake in TV3 anymore.

Huh. Right you are. Seem to have missed that.

humanji

ScumLord wrote: »

Hands is on right now, it's pure and utter ****e. Yerman sounds like Joe Duffy and he talks just as much ****e as him, pointless. They're shoeing a horse, it's a show about shoeing a ****in' horse.

Dublin looks weird in it though.

I'm finding it oddly hypnotic. I haven't been this relaxed in years...

ScumLord

He's a great speaker.. "There he is there, throwing the thing up on the, yolk".

Jesus, Dublin looks like an awful dumb back then.

Celticfire

ScumLord wrote: »

My house doesn't exist on any government databases and you can't get to my front door without being let in another door which doesn't have any intercoms or nothin you have to ring me to get into the building. It's not quiet as shady as it sounds just a lucky setup.

I presume that you do get letters delivered to your residence? If so then you are on An Posts database who funnily enough collect the license fee.

WildIrishRose

TPD wrote: »

Do you have to pay a tv licence if you have a computer with a tv-in card? Like if you moved into a house which already had an arial and all that, and didnt actually use a tv?

Good question

heyjude

The TV Licence is just another part of Rip Off Ireland, even at €50 it wouldn't be good value.

Look at todays' TV schedule(from 5.15am this morning for 24 hours) and you'll see: Doctors, Neighbours, Shortland Street, Doctors(again), Fair City, Home and Away, Eastenders(a repeat of yesterdays' episode), Fair City(again) and Shortland Street(again). So thats 9 soaps(7 of them imported), in addition to which they show 'The Afternoon Show'(twice), 'Seoige and O'Shea'(twice) and they also show Nationwide(twice).

Not too much evidence of quality programming there and thirty years after the invention of the VCR way too many repeats. The only programme all day that might be worth watching is the film(The Bourne Supremacy) and while it isn't RTE's fault, that has been out of video for some while.

As for Network2/RTE 2, well if you aren't a kid then you won't need to bother with the opening 11+ hours or so of daily programming, after which they have Neighbours and Home and Away sandwiching the Simpsons. The two CSI's and maybe the wildlife programme Two Wild are the only programmes worth considering.

I think like everything else, how you measure value depends on your personal preferences, if you love soaps, the likes of Seoige and O'Shea, The Afternoon Show, Turbridy Tonight, The Late Late Show or if you have young kids, then RTE may seem good value, but commercial channels like TV3 and Channel 6 show imports like CSI, so you have to measure RTE against the rest and I don't think they are worth €160 a year.

Personally if I paid 50c for every RTE programme I watched in the year, I'd be due a sizeable refund at years end, as most days I wouldn't even notice if RTE was off the air. I think the licence fee is just a tax on everyone to entertain a sizeable minority that enjoy its mix of soaps and repeats. Still I suppose by repeating almost every home produced programme except the news, they can claim a high proportion of the programmes they broadcast are Irish produced. :rolleyes:

If RTE television and radio could somehow be made subscription only, how many people would pay €160 a year for it ? And if it was a subscription deal, do you think they'd turn out their current programming mix ?

Nightwish

Timothy Bryce wrote: »

Jesus - suck it up FFS.

It's a tax that everyone in the entire state gets shafted with and if you don't pay it you get taken down the District Court and shafted for 10 times the amount!

There has been much opposition to this over the years and nothing's ever changed so maybe just try dealing with it.

FFS I am paying it...just not yet as I'm broke.

heyjude

D.T. Jesus wrote: »

Lads I don't see the problem with it. You have to admit it's value for money, with some excellent shows like The english class, Fair City, I dare ya, Seoige and O'Se, the afternoon show etc. And you can sleep soundly knowing you've given more money to Gerry Ryan to shovel burgers down his throat.

'Excellent' are you serious ?

As for being 'value for money', 'you can't be serious'!!!

If you enjoy 'The English Class' you'd have enjoyed the first time that these jokes/situations were used, 30 years ago on the ITV series 'Mind Your Language'. Check out this page for further details http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind_Your_Language

The TV licence is also a flat rate 'tax' so it hits poorer people harder