Heroes in Cork *spoiler if not seen yet*

Saruman

This is the only terrible thing about the new series...
Probably been discussed before though.
Why do American shows insist on the terrible Irish accents. Jaysus they could have at least put on a Cork accent.
Hell one of the Irish guys, the black one i think is obviously English... unless he is meant to be...
[edit]
guess he is not English:
http://heroeswiki.com/Tuko

Star Lord

I KNEW that "Caitlin" looked familiar... she's been in lots of ads etc... as well as being a gossard g-string model!

HP sauce ad:



Gossard ads:

Stark

The best was Malcolm Reed trying to say "Sláinte" coming out with "Slancha". I shuddered. Oh and everyone passing round pints of Guinness after a job well done. How stereotypical.

Mantel

Stark wrote: »

The best was Malcolm Reed trying to say "Sláinte" coming out with "Slancha". I shuddered. Oh and everyone passing round pints of Guinness after a job well done. How stereotypical.

Those pints looked pretty dire, the head on them was nearly completely gone. No wonder the pub never seems to have many customers.

JohnnyStones

The guy that was in star trek(guy that tried to rob peter and co) is actually Irish but he's been living in England for years,(i know his cousin) his accent was just OK for an irish person:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Goodshape

JohnnyStones wrote: »

The guy that was in star trek(guy that tried to rob peter and co) is actually Irish

He has an Irish father, according to Wikipedia, but was born in Leicester himself.

standbyme

Can any actor take off an Irish accent from TV to Movies, too many to mention as theyre just too plain shameful.

As its probably been mentioned, can they not have got an irish actor(s) bloody hell, it makes a mockery of it, or maybe some americans are dumb as maybe some one told them to put a 'cork' in it & took it literally

We'll never know

No offence to anyone in Cork.

Karl Hungus

Jesus, you think you'd be used to the awful accents by now. It's not like this is something new.

standbyme

Yeah im well used to it by now, but you just hope in vain someone gets it right, like this show-but then again

There's probably a thread somewhere here about shameful oirish accents already here :eek:

thehomeofDob

Lads, seriously, the yanks wouldn't be able to understand de bi's down in cark. It is awful though, for the tiny amound of dialogue the Irish guys have, they could have at least gotten someone off the street and bought em a drink to do the part.

standbyme

Yeah they could have come out with
"YE FECKIN LANGER" , "YE EEJIT"

Gran Hermano

If they used real Cork or Irish people they'd have to subtitle it for the Septic Tanks.

KdjaCL

Gran Hermano wrote: »

If they used real Cork or Irish people they'd have to subtitle it for the Septic Tanks.

thats true i have no ****ing clue what cork people are saying 99% of the time i just nod.


kdjac

Seloth

You should really only say that about the city people....especialy the North side.

Also I dont have a clue what the actors who are supposed to have Irish accents are saying...something about leprachuns and pots o' gold.

Gauge

A quote from the most recent comic: 'What's with all this glowering and looming and nary a spark of lightning?'

Ahhh, tis like the singin' of the angels themselves.

Seriously, what Irish person says 'Nary?'

Cunny-Funt

How is it the brother gets this supposed Cork accent, yet the sister get the typical retarded unrealistic Norn Iron accent that doesn't exist yet all americans think we have?


grrr, really does piss me off. I mean I know its always been like this but I just would think they would know better by now at least as more people from Ireland become famous and so they would hear real accents.

I reckon if the actors tried putting on the real accent the director would be pissed at them since to him it wouldn't sound Irish and he would assume the audience would think the same.

Also the sister is the typical fiery Irish chick we always see on US tv. Surprised they didn't give her red hair tbh!

Karl Hungus

standbyme wrote: »

Yeah im well used to it by now, but you just hope in vain someone gets it right, like this show-but then again

I thought someone already has. Mark Sheppard on Battlestar Galactica. Though he actually lived in Dublin for some time.

Overheal

the lawyer guy in BsG? He was alright in my opinion. why not hire him, ffs.

Agamemnon

There must be at least one Irish person among Heroes' large cast and crew surely, or at least someone there must know an Irish person that could have given the scripts a once-over and picked out the obvious howlers like "For the love of Pete".

Caitlin's accent veers all over the country like a drunken helicopter pilot and the rest of them seem to be basing their accents on "In The Name Of The Father". It's almost as bad as Bono's "accent" in the latest South Park, although at least we know they're taking the piss there. The only American that can do Irish accents properly is Des Bishop.

Goodshape

Yeah, the lawyer's accent in BSG was perfectly acceptable. And Ireland doesn't even exist in that series. Heh.

arbeitsscheuer

agamemnon wrote: »

There must be at least one Irish person among Heroes' large cast and crew surely, or at least someone there must know an Irish person that could have given the scripts a once-over and picked out the obvious howlers like "For the love of Pete".

Yeah, tbh this f**ked me off more than anything. It's not as if Americans portraying the Irish accent badly is anything new, but at the very least the b*stards should've been able to get the dialogue right. "For the love of Pete"?! Who the f**k ever says this???

And incidentally, a subtle Cork accent wouldn't be completely incomprehensible to the Americans. Cillian Murphy and Jonathan Rhys Meyers both have accents which are tinged with Cork (unsuprising given that both are from there) and both of em have been successful in the states.

It beggars belief that Americans can get Irish accents so wrong, so consistently, when they can apparently handle other accents without to much trouble e.g. Spike's accent in Buffy was pretty flawless.

corblimey

Guiness in straight glasses?!
"Skippy's Sportsbook"?!?!
"for the love of Pete"?!?!?!

Skud

i was in new york earlier this year and some ppl couldnt tell i was irish... I have a cork accent so that explains it :P

Back on topic: it is dreadful. The comics are painful also... you can't do much about it though.

seriously though... the english guy is meant to be from africa?!?

WetDaddy

Well fellas, for a bunch who complain about "getting the facts straight", I find it strange that every one who's mentioned stout has referred to it as (probably) Guinness... Surely if we're doing things the "right" way, it'd be Murphy's?

I find the accent thing really irritating. Like someone mentioned earlier (Karl Hungus, I think), you'd think we'd be used to it. But unfortunately it's the suspension of disbelief of it all; it totally removes you from the immersion (Des Bishop?) in the episode, which is a shame. I suppose we'll just have to come to terms with the fact that Ireland and "Hollywood-Ireland" are two completely different places. The oirish, leapin' leprechauns, always-singin' always-dancin' but tears-nary-far-away fabrication is more suited to mainstream story-telling, it would seem

Oh, and for the record, I thought Cate Blanchett made a damn good attempt at a Dublin accent in Veronica Guerin.

standbyme

The only Cork accent i can understand & like is from Maeve Higgins, totally hilarious esp. on radio earlier today & her obsession with 'sweaty' Eddie Hobbs

Karl Hungus

Goodshape wrote: »

Yeah, the lawyer's accent in BSG was perfectly acceptable. And Ireland doesn't even exist in that series. Heh.

Aye, quite ironic.

mac123

what about peter lookin for his 200 DOLLARS back and security guards with guns!

giftgrub

what suprises me is that anyone in Cork paid a blind bit of notice to a superhuman...what with their superiority complex down there and all:):):):)

Stark

Well they did say "you're one of us now" when they found out he had superpowers.

5starpool

Did I not read something in the seasonal promotional blurb about one of those 'irish' people being 1000 years old?

Agamemnon

Stark wrote: »

Well they did say "you're one of us now" when they found out he had superpowers.

LOL!

5starpool wrote: »

Did I not read something in the seasonal promotional blurb about one of those 'irish' people being 1000 years old?

Yeah, wonder what happened to that. Ricky mentioned a crime boss called McSorely (I think), maybe it's him? I think the writers are going somewhere by having Peter in Oireland and he will meet someone with special abilities there (apart from the special ability to mangle an Irish accent that they all seem to have).

Stark

Of course, bad enough as the Ireland scenes are, nothing can compare to this:

http://www.tv.com/lois-and-clark-the-new-adventures-of-superman/when-irish-eyes-are-killing/episode/29118/summary.html

Agamemnon

I remember seeing that and bursting a gut laughing at how bad it was. It featured these jewels called "The Eyes Of Ireland" that glowed green when the villain put them into his eyes, IIRC.

But the worst Oirishness in tv history is this episode of the 80s Twilight Zone: The Little People of Killany Woods.

It featured a bunch of drunken Oirishmen in a pub lamenting the fact that they had no jobs. One of them started paying with pieces of gold he got from the "little people", who turned out to be miniature aliens who took off with him in a flying saucer at the end.

Here's the closing narration: "In the days to come, when human beings navigate the great depths of space, they'll eventually come to a small planet in a distant galaxy. It's a pleasant place, but quite unlike the Earth. There's one unusual similarity, however. Shamrocks grow there in great profusion, brought, they say, by one Liam O'Shaughnessey, lately of Earth and now residing in one of the greener corners of the Twilight Zone."

Classic. Must track it down.

peepingtom

had to laugh reading this ... saw the first few episodes of season 2 last night and was seriously cringing ... why the hell didnt they at least say it was based in Belfast ..... at least the accent would have been almost there

failing that .... finding a few real irish actors couldnt have been that hard ... surely

pure lazy like

MayMay

Any link? Have heard so much about this but haven't seen it!

peepingtom

not sure if we can talk about ... <snip>

MayMay

Thanks Tom...not on You Tube or anything though no?

Goodshape

peeping tom banned for two weeks.

You may not talk about how or where to get full length episodes illegally. You should well know this by now, it's in the charter (of pretty much every television series forum on this site) and is in no way a new rule.

If you want clips from the series, try YouTube or Google.

John_C

And what were they doing importing ipods into Cork? Is Apple Computers not already in Cork?

im...LOST

Do they actually make them in Cork?

Apple is much more than just iPod's you know?

L31mr0d

jeez... i'm actually ok with the stereotypes... nobody seems to mind that they portray Mexico as a bunch of run down shanty towns filled with lazy people lying around doing nothing all day. This is an american programme after all so it has to pander to how americans see the world which is an exaggerated view of the cultures of those countries. I'm just happy they are featuring Ireland at all, albeit, ireland in the 1950's with iPods and probably a load of Nissans.

I actually like that they are continuing the Irish plotline and am interested to see where they take it from here, I have a horrible feeling though that they will introduce a character with red hair who has the power of luck, and peter will have to steal his charms from him :rolleyes:

5starpool

L31mr0d wrote: »

I have a horrible feeling though that they will introduce a character with red hair who has the power of luck, and peter will have to steal his charms from him :rolleyes:

Surely a contradiction? Lucky person with red hair?

I jest, I jest

Stark

L31mr0d wrote:

I'm just happy they are featuring Ireland at all, albeit, ireland in the 1950's with iPods and probably a load of Nissans.

I can't wait for them to show a Nissan Micra with ribbon magnets stuck to it.

Agamemnon

L31mr0d wrote: »

I'm just happy they are featuring Ireland at all, albeit, ireland in the 1950's with iPods and probably a load of Nissans.

Plus everyone has at least one gun. Maybe the writers heard of the IRA and assumed they're an Irish branch of the NRA.

Seloth

Bargh descibes my views of their views on us.

Anyone notice how all the cars we've seen are ****ty and are yellow redges.Oh and the secuirty guards,wtf? what happen to the heavily armoured van with the riot helmet.

The bad thing is we cant fight back as all our sterotypes of them are real j/k:D

daveirl

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Gauge

Apparently we're not the only misrepresented place... I've been on a couple of other boards and the people from New Orleans aren't too impressed either!

120_Minutes

at the risk of being banned, can you not watch entire episodes LEGALLY on the nbc website?

ixoy

Ian Paisley and Gerry Adams just needed to call Captain Planet! GO PLANET!!

Guage wrote:

Apparently we're not the only misrepresented place... I've been on a couple of other boards and the people from New Orleans aren't too impressed either!

And the Canadians. Apparently the town they've mentioned is 100 miles from where it's said to be in the show. It seems though the Canadians are happy just to be mentioned and would even put their ten minutes of fame on the local news...

120_Minutes wrote: »

at the risk of being banned, can you not watch entire episodes LEGALLY on the nbc website?

It blocks non-US IP addresses - that's why you can't. And your question is non-bannable as it's asking about a legal resource.

120_Minutes

ah, i'm on holidays over here which is why its works for me.

The_Hustler

Well the veoh player isn't illegal, and that has an NBC channel in it now which shows heroes straight from the nbc website. I presume this is legal (seeing as they delete copyrighted material if uploaded-eventually). It shows an ad before it and everything(unlike uploaded content), so I think the only difference is that it doesn't block non-us users.