Drink spiked - worried

Lands Leaving

was out 2 nights ago and was in great form, had eaten plenty, had a few drinks, drunk, but ive had more plenty of times so i know thats not the problem. but totally out of nowhere i have an hour or two gap in my memory and next thing i know i was a fair distance from the club i was in with a total stranger helping me put my shirt back on. next day i was told id been aggressive and violent towards my girlfriend and friends, was paranoid without any reason and generally acted totally out of character. ive never done anything like that before, ive even kept my cool when a guy was trying to kiss my girlfriend in front of me. so can anyone tell me what could have been put in my drink to cause that and if i should be worried about my health now? i was being in no way careful about my drinks by the way so it would have been easy for someone to spike one.
just to clarify the incident with the other guy was another time i just wanted to make it clear im not a violent person at all

Mr. Incognito

hmmmmmmmm, trust me you'd KNOW if your drink had been spiked. Sounds like young sir had a few shots and fell down on the social graces. Welcome to the world. Lay off the shots.

DarkJager

Doesn't sound like any drugs I know of. Were you overheating at any stage? What can you remember of the night?

mikemac

I don't think there has ever been a succesful prosecution for spiking a drink in this country. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen but I think many girls blame people slipping drugs into their drinks when there is no need-the girls have already drugged themselves with alcohol.

Many girls get drunk and do stuff that is out of charecter but if they say their drink was spiked they get concern and sympathy and if they is they were simply drunk they are told to be more responsible.

Is it possible you were simply drunk OP? In fact it's in your post.

Regarding your limit, sure we've all gone out some nights and had several drinks and a great night or sometimes we have 4 or 5 drinks and we can't remember a thing the next day. At least I have anyway.

Not trying to be harsh OP

But I expect all the girls here will post that your drink was spiked and the lads will post that you just couldn't handle your drink

Lands Leaving

yeah i remember being grand and then nothing till i was well away from the place i was in. theres no way it was just drink. I have never reacted like that and ive had a lot more to drink on many occasions, and its never ever made me aggressive or violent.

Doctor DooM

Drink doesn't ALWAYS make you agressive or violent. There are many many conditions in your body which alter how you react to alcohol.

The only way you are going to know for sure is if it happens again, anyway... in which case you need to respect the booze a little more, or you have a nice warning story to tell your kids a few years down the line.

DarkJager

The only drug that could make you aggressive or violent, would probably be cocaine. But your drink couldn't possibly be spiked with this as liquid negates the effects of it. And it couldn't be a typical date rape drug like rohypnol, because you wouldn't even be able to speak let alone be violent off that. So yeah, it sounds like you went a bit heavy on the drink.

Jumpy

Most likely you reacted due to an inability to handle the confusion.
If you had been spiked with Rohypnol, then you would unlikely have been aware of anything until the next day. Anything else would generally not have a detrimental effect to your moods again until the next day.
Personally it sounds like you had too much, and were very stressed out by the fact you couldnt remember stuff.
The brain reacts in some very funny ways.

deevey

Sounds like a similar problem situation to what happend to me a 3 or 4 years back.

Was out to a college gig with a friend of mine, had about 3 pints and 2 vodka redbulls In the space of about 3 - 4 hours (work the next morning).

By midnight I was TOTALLY screwed, somehow managed to get a taxi home things were getting fuzzy and dizzying I dont remember much.

I do remember getting up to bed vaguely ... woke up on the couch in the morning, bathroom door had the locks drilled off, my sister and mom had to get in as I was passed out on the floor, and started shouting in my sleep then afterwards round the house and trying to hit them !!! I dont remember any of it..

BTW I am the "funny sleeper" once i have had a long session .. generally i'll be awake until the party is finishing up .. find a comfortable spot and you'll find me kipping in a corner somewhere, nothing like this ever happend before or since.

The friend I was out with was a hottie and I can only think the drink was probably ment for her (we were both on the V+RB).

Closest incedent I'v seen was the weekend the "spice girl" pills went on sale many years back which had similar effects - full of "K" and whatever other cocktail was in em .. and turned the some of the most passive guys and gals in the world into kicking screaming monsters.

It sent of a series of warning bells to me though .. watch yer drinks lads and lassies.

BaZmO*

jellyk wrote:

so can anyone tell me what could have been put in my drink to cause that

Alcohol by the brewery.

I'm sorry but waaay too many try to use the I've been spiked cop out when they've had too much to drink. In my many many years of drinking and clubbing I've only ever seen one person being spiked and that was with acid and that guy definitely knew he was spiked and so would you if you had of been.

jellyk wrote:

ive never done anything like that before

There's a first time for everything.

I've noticed that as I've gotten older I tend to not remember bits of the night before when I've been on the lash, not blackouts per se but definitely hard to recollect parts of the night. A lot of friends have said they experienced this too.

Knockoff Nige

I'd say more likely you have had a change in diet or didnt eat before you drank.

BaZmO*

deevey wrote:

Was out to a college gig with a friend of mine, had about 3 pints and 2 vodka redbulls In the space of about 3 - 4 hours (work the next morning).

Yeah, definitely spiked.

Mr. Incognito

yeah i remember being grand and then nothing till i was well away from the place i was in. theres no way it was just drink.

Really? How old are you?

Straw poll how many times the following has happened to people here.

Go out,
Drink Alcohol,
Drink more alcohol,
Have shot (usually clear shots aid memory dedgradation more)
Memory Gap. (2+hours After pub, maybe you don't remember the club)
Morning (where am I?)

SetantaL: *puts hand up*

Mate, if your drink was spike order would be the following:

Drink,
More drink
"Spike"
Vomit/Collapse/Go ape****

The effects would last a lot longer than 2 hours mate, and you would be feeling very groggy and out of it for a few days.

Anti

Yeah sounds like you just had a bit to much to drink. It happens sometimes.

Lands Leaving

I have been feeling **** since. Im 22, and ive done the:
Go out,
Drink Alcohol,
Drink more alcohol,
Have shots

lots of times. but ive never forgotten anything, let alone had a blackout. even with far more drink than the other night. for me it just doesnt add up.

Lands Leaving

Mate, if your drink was spike order would be the following:

Drink,
More drink
"Spike"
Vomit/Collapse/Go ape****

that pretty much explains how it went. I was still ****ed after two hours, i just have a clearer memory.

Mr. Incognito

That's because you're paranoid. 22, that sounds about right for when I started having my first black outs. Try and keep off the shots and you should be fine.

As someone who has treated their body to some horrible chemical abuses at times trust me long term health consequences of a drink spike are nil. It's only persistant abuse that does the damage. Don't believe all the hype over drugs.

Jack Bauer999

slightly confused.

OP, your a guy correct?

when you say "a total stranger helping me put my shirt back on"

did you wake up in some guy's house or something?

Lands Leaving

yeah im a guy, dunno what happened, this guy was trying to put my shirt on and then he was askin me to go to another club. he seemed to be bein nice and tryin to calm me down but ive no idea really, i got away as soon as i could. i dont think he took the shirt off or anything tho, id say he was just tryin to get me to make sense. i was totally delirious.

patrickolee

You were drunk. Simple as. Stop looking for excuses for your behaviour and lay off the shorts until you grow up.

milkerman

Sorry man, you just had too much to drink.
I have found that people react differently to shorts, shots & beers.
In my case
Whiskey - In good company & after a good meal I have cleaned out a full bottle with room for more. Side effect being a greater willingness to laugh.
Lager - 3 pints & I will be leaking every 20 minutes. Hammered at 6 pints & fall asleep.
BEER - From a well known micro brewery, 4 pints = Lunatic. I have had to be coaxed down from high places (urge to climb things). All sense of danger gone. Worse again, it works like a truth serum generating comments such as 'You are the most boring person I know'.

Find a drink that suits you & stick to it. I dont think shots are a good idea as the concentration of ethanol may not suit those used to drinking beer.

Lands Leaving

i never actually had any shots. i never said that!

i drank my usual, few beers (3 pints) before goin out, then few whiskeys there. felt totally normal then gone!

no shots!

maybe i did have a bad reaction, but i felt well within my limits then no memory.

Mr. Incognito

i never actually had any shots. i never said that!

i drank my usual, few beers (3 pints) before goin out, then few whiskeys there. felt totally normal then gone!

no shots!

Whiskey is not a a shot?

I think all efforts of rational thought to date on this problem may have been over-extended.

Whiskey is known as the "cocaine" of alcohol. I drink it frequently and don't remember anything which presently seems appealling.

OP- I think you'll survive.

Dord

I'd recommend not mixing your drinks. I've had some bad experiences doing that.


You start off drinking beer, you drink that all night if you want. Start off on Whiskey....wait....no you shouldnt drink that all night...

mikemac

I assumed the OP was a girl

My advice still stands though

BaZmO*

jellyk wrote:

then few whiskeys there

Haha!!!

Thanks for the laugh there buddy!! Nearly p1ssed meself!! Yeah you were definitely spiked by some big baddy drug dealer that wanted to take you home and have his wicked way with ya.

Have a look at this particularly around the 1:13 mark.

Sleepy

Just booze mate. I've had some similar experiences while in college where I did things *totally* out of character (that I'm still relieved very few people know about) after what just seemed like a normal night's drinking at the time.

Whiskey makes lots of people go nuts too... my own danger drink is cider, four pints and I turn into an agressive ****wit.

milkerman

I must speak out in defence of Whiskey.
I does not suit everyone. If you have a bad experience with it then be warned & stay away. For some people with small bladders it is the perfect tipple, just beware of mixers with high sugar content - very sickening.

OP, you had a bad experience - learn from the experience & stay on beer.

bullvine

Whiskey!!!, theres your problem right there, stay away from it, doesn't agree with some people.

Pinker

It's hard to know what happened, and you'll never really know unless you go to your GP and request a toxicology test, out of curiosity did you notice any physical changes, dilated pupils, increased heartrate, shrunken penis? these are just some of the delightful effects of ecstacy, it's not a subtle drug and you'd know if you had some, maybe a small bit of something else was in your drink, in future try to keep an eye on it.
I have been spiked once ( 2 very strong pills, which I don't do) not a very nice experience. I was also out with a girl in a club one night when I spotted a pill in the bottom of her drink just as she was about to finish it off. It most certainly happens, it also happens that countless people falsely believe it's happened to them.

patrickolee

E wouldn't make you black out. Alcohol would. Whiskey most certainly does odd things to people.

Pinker

patrickolee wrote:

E wouldn't make you black out. Alcohol would. Whiskey most certainly does odd things to people.

Of course pills make you black out, happens regularily...

Who knows what happened, get a test done and then you'll know anything else is mere speculation.

The_Hustler

A few whiskeys! FFS any time I had that in the early days blackouts were a guarantee.

Don't touch the stuff now, no matter how much my tolerance has improved it was scary what it could do.

Bottle_of_Smoke

patrickolee wrote:

E wouldn't make you black out. Alcohol would. Whiskey most certainly does odd things to people.

The only time I took a pill i blacked out for most of the night.

Stokolan

Yeah it sounds like you were just wasted... As i moved on in the years every time i drank I have memory gaps. when it first happened liek you I also thought my drink got spiked but when it started happening every weekend I knew it was time to give up the drink

but since then anythime I drink I've stopped going nuts on the shorts and that and haven't had a black out since

dudara

Whiskey is a funny form of alcohol, (based on my experience with it anyway). I've seen it do different things to different people. It makes me very argumentative and stroppy if I have more than 2 snifters. Problem is that I really like whiskey. But I drink it in moderation.

What happened to you is just probably due to the fact that you're getting older. Black spots in your memory will become more common following drinking sessions as you get older. You remember everything when you're an undergrad in college and you can stay up all night. However, that fades fast.

Learn how you handle your drink and stay within those boundaries.

It really doesn't seem that your drink was spiked. You'd be feeling far worse the day afterwards if that had truly been the case.

Helix

patrickolee wrote:

E wouldn't make you black out. Alcohol would. Whiskey most certainly does odd things to people.

whatever about pills making you black out (which can happen if aided with lots of booze), it certainly wont make you violent

Fanny Cradock

Well, the important thing is that the guy wasn't helping you put your y-fronts back on.

It does sound like you had a belly full of booze and you find it easier to explain away your reactions by stating that it was something else. You couldn't possibly have lost control on mere alcohol. What a preposterous idea! However, it is also possible that your drink was spiked. Short of you sending a sample of your whiz to a bordzie with their own lab for analysis, I don't think anyone can help you here.

dame

Whether the drink was spiked or not (which I doubt), take it as a wake-up call to start looking after yourself better, as in cut down/out the drink and don't leave them unattended.

LegacyUser

Helix wrote:

whatever about pills making you black out (which can happen if aided with lots of booze), it certainly wont make you violent

B******T where do you people get your facts, pills can very easily make you violent, <snip> unsubstantiated - dudara </snip> E can contain many chemicals including LSD, there is no standard recipe, consequently it can have varied results, it won't always make you violent, but you may certainly become violent on it, as I and I'm sure numerous others have seen

Talliesin

Alcohol does not affect people exactly the same way every time.

pretty-in-pink

to much to drink op, if you were spiked you would know, without any room for doubt

JC 2K3

Micky 2nd wrote:

B******T where do you people get your facts, pills can very easily make you violent, <snip> unsubstantiated - dudara </snip> E can contain many chemicals including LSD, there is no standard recipe, consequently it can have varied results, it won't always make you violent, but you may certainly become violent on it, as I and I'm sure numerous others have seen

Lol, the chances of LSD being in a pill are extremely low, and even if there was, it's not exactly a drug famous for making people violent.

Of course, you're right about not knowing what chemicals are in a pill, and one certainly could become violent on one.

Helix

Micky 2nd wrote:

B******T where do you people get your facts, pills can very easily make you violent

8 years of taking them, and having mates taking them

ive never once seen anyone even so much as start an arguement on pills

the odds of getting lsd in pills are laughably small

why put something that you could sell for more than the price of a €2 pill, into a €2 pill

Dalfiatach

Almost certainly the whiskey IMO.

I'm fine on whiskey myself, I can drink it all night and just get happy drunk. But with a lot of people whiskey drives them demented. IIRC some study or other showed that roughly 1/3 of people simply can't handle whiskey at all. Even one shot is enough to trigger wild aggression and acting a complete knob.

After nearly 20 years of drinking, the drinks that I've observed turning certain friends into complete lunatics are whiskey; vodka (esp. with red bull); Aftershocks; gin (rarely, but it makes some people paranoid and weepy); tequila (love it myself, but some people seem to think they are invincible superheroes after a couple of shots); and bizarrely enough Satzenbrau (my sister, who goes mad and starts smashing things).

So all the above should be treated with respect, and if you act out of character once while drinking them then simply stop drinking them. Plenty more drinks out there...

Also, with a 2 hour memory gap, you have no idea what you were drinking while you were blacked out. You could have been firing the shots of whiskey into you like a mad thing for ages after the switch in your brain went "click"...

im_invisible

just to throw my 2cents in, probably-definatly the whiskey,
also ive blacked-out a few times while taking pills, but that was always when i was drinking a lot aswell, never when i only took pills, or didnt drink too much with them.

off topic here, but what would the effects be if he was spiked with cocaine? i presume it would be a lot slower acting, like smoking vs eating hash, and i know the chemicals in coke and booze are meant to react, creating some proper-harmful chemical

BaZmO*

im_invisible wrote:

off topic here, but what would the effects be if he was spiked with cocaine?

A) He wouldn't really notice other than being able to drink more than usual or maybe if if he was spiked with a lot of decent/strong coke he'd start to grind his teeth.

and..

Why the fook would anybody spike someone else with a load of coke??? It's not as if the stuff is cheap.

im_invisible wrote:

and i know the chemicals in coke and booze are meant to react, creating some proper-harmful chemical

You know this? Or you know this is meant to happen?

Pinker

Why exactly, however if some young guy is selling bags of the stuff it doesn't exactly cost that much for him...

BaZmO*

Pinker wrote:

Why exactly, however if some young guy is selling bags of the stuff it doesn't exactly cost that much for him...

Haha, yeah right!

I can just see it now, a young guy selling bags of the stuff is willing to put €100 worth of coke into a stranger's drink.

milkerman

OP - I think you just have to accept the most likely scenario here, you started with an entre of beer before moving on to a main course of whiskey. Depending on the volumes consumed and whether you had eaten before going out, the scenario you described fits in nicely with being well hammered.

It is possible but unlikely that your drink was spiked. It is also unlikely that you were abducted by aliens and subjected to extensive anal probing.

Put this one down to experience and treat whiskey with the respect it so richly deserves.

cowzerp

milkerman wrote:

I must speak out in defence of Whiskey.
I does not suit everyone. If you have a bad experience with it then be warned & stay away. For some people with small bladders it is the perfect tipple, just beware of mixers with high sugar content - very sickening.

OP, you had a bad experience - learn from the experience & stay on beer.

Where did you defend whiskey?