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APAT Irish Amateur Poker Championship

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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,252 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dub13


    MickL wrote:
    is athens nice this time of year wouldn fancy a holiday there mind you


    Going by your siganture I would say you would love to be going to Athens in a couple of weeks.;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,533 ✭✭✭ollyk1


    It's been suggested to me that this thing is a bit of a sting to get people to register and that the number of new members will far outweigh the number of tickets on sale.

    Can the poster "Apat" confirm how many tickets they have to sell and how many new members they normally get in these circumstances?

    Can LLoyd confirm if he won his ticket online or just paid to go to Scotland?

    Can I sign up for the tournie and membership at the same time?

    I personally have met Tony Kendall ("Tikay" on Blonde poker) and I do trust him so I want to believe this is all above board but I wouldn't be adverse to some assurances to that effect....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 640 ✭✭✭MickL


    Dub13 wrote:
    Going by your siganture I would say you would love to be going to Athens in a couple of weeks.;)
    thats irellevent i wouldn be anywhere else otrher than a dublin casino on may the 23rd dunno what othere sportin events that matter is on that day!!! :L:L


  • Registered Users Posts: 36,133 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    ollyk1 wrote:
    Can LLoyd confirm if he won his ticket online or just paid to go to Scotland?

    Online Olly. And I was a member of the APAT for some time before the Edinburgh tournament.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,533 ✭✭✭ollyk1


    Online Olly. And I was a member of the APAT for some time before the Edinburgh tournament.


    Cheers Lloyd. That's what I thought. I'll probably still sign up but I was just voicing some concerns - I'm a cynical poker player when it comes to "value" I guess....:rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Ste05


    Yeah, I kinda did the maths before I signed up, if the ticket is worth say 10k then they need 1,000 new members to break even, and then only 103 of them get tickets so I'd imagine 90% of people who sign up won't get a ticket, I also presume they make a profit on the enterprise so I presume it's probably a little more than 90% don't get to play.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 APAT


    Ste05 wrote:
    Yeah, I kinda did the maths before I signed up, if the ticket is worth say 10k then they need 1,000 new members to break even, and then only 103 of them get tickets so I'd imagine 90% of people who sign up won't get a ticket, I also presume they make a profit on the enterprise so I presume it's probably a little more than 90% don't get to play.

    Hi All,

    No sting. This is the fifth major tournament that we have ran this season and the deal is this:-

    Entry fee is £75. Sterling because the payment system is UK based. It is also extremely likely that we will pay in Sterling.

    There is no rake or casino entry fee. APAT has negotiated that with the Fitz.

    There will be a lot more entries than seats available. 99% of that demand will be from existing members. We sold the APAT Welsh Amateur Poker Championship at Grosvenor Cardiff out in six minutes. Over 220 seats.

    The membership fee is completely incidental. I see someone posted the half price code from PokerPlayer magazine. I'm happy for you to use it.

    The Fitzwilliam will run satellites and allocate 20 seats. Every one who enters a satellite for this event at the Fitz is eligible for a free membership.

    First prize will be around £3,500 plus an expenses paid trip to a season 4 EPT event. The top 15 players will cash. The top 18 players will earn APAT ranking points. The top ranking player at the end of the season, in online and live play, will win an expenses paid entry to the PokerStars Caribbean Adventure WPT event.

    APAT is sponsored by PokerStars.com and PokerPlayer magazine. Both market leaders.

    This month alone, we have had two page reviews of our last event in PokerPlayer and Bluff magazine, a half page in Poker Europa and been the major part of a 4 page article in WPT magazine on the state of poker in the UK. A tournament report on our last event, the Scottish Amateur Poker Championship, held at Gala Edinburgh, appeared on Sky Sports last week. A camera crew will be in attendance at the Fitzwilliam also.

    No, we are not after your fiver!

    Hope some of you guys get in.

    Cheers,

    Des Duffy
    MD, APAT.


  • Registered Users Posts: 134 ✭✭fl&sh


    just tried the promo code and its coming up as invalid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 APAT


    fl&sh wrote:
    just tried the promo code and its coming up as invalid.

    Works fine for me....make sure you have a capital P and no spaces...Player51


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,397 ✭✭✭Goodluck2me


    this is guna be great!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 94 ✭✭BHW


    joe are you not working that day!



    In the fitz as a dealer!!!!!!!

    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,533 ✭✭✭ollyk1


    APAT wrote:
    Hi All,

    No sting. This is the fifth major tournament that we have ran this season and the deal is this:-

    Entry fee is £75. Sterling because the payment system is UK based. It is also extremely likely that we will pay in Sterling.

    There is no rake or casino entry fee. APAT has negotiated that with the Fitz.

    There will be a lot more entries than seats available. 99% of that demand will be from existing members. We sold the APAT Welsh Amateur Poker Championship at Grosvenor Cardiff out in six minutes. Over 220 seats.

    The membership fee is completely incidental. I see someone posted the half price code from PokerPlayer magazine. I'm happy for you to use it.

    The Fitzwilliam will run satellites and allocate 20 seats. Every one who enters a satellite for this event at the Fitz is eligible for a free membership.

    First prize will be around £3,500 plus an expenses paid trip to a season 4 EPT event. The top 15 players will cash. The top 18 players will earn APAT ranking points. The top ranking player at the end of the season, in online and live play, will win an expenses paid entry to the PokerStars Caribbean Adventure WPT event.

    APAT is sponsored by PokerStars.com and PokerPlayer magazine. Both market leaders.

    This month alone, we have had two page reviews of our last event in PokerPlayer and Bluff magazine, a half page in Poker Europa and been the major part of a 4 page article in WPT magazine on the state of poker in the UK. A tournament report on our last event, the Scottish Amateur Poker Championship, held at Gala Edinburgh, appeared on Sky Sports last week. A camera crew will be in attendance at the Fitzwilliam also.

    No, we are not after your fiver!

    Hope some of you guys get in.

    Cheers,

    Des Duffy
    MD, APAT.

    Cheers Des for the update.

    I guess I could have gone away and done some more research myself but its better to get some clarification on boards straight from the horses mouth so to speak.

    I'll be happy to hand over my £5 and take my chances

    I hope to see you at the event in the Fitz.

    Olly


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭shoutman


    Is it possible to guarantee your ticket by reserving one tonight paying for it etc and then if you win a sat in the fitz sell your ticket on? Albeit for face value of course.

    cheers
    Luke


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭connie147


    If you sold a 220 runner event in 6 minutes for the welsh tournament, why is the Irish leg being held where only half that can enter? Specially when you expect "expected overwhelming demand" for the seats available? Why limit it?

    PS: not that i've anything against the Fitzwilliam. Just wondering why the tourneys being limited


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭shoutman


    Feck just found out i've a prior engagement on the evening/night of the 2nd of June. Any idea what time play would finish at on the first day?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 APAT


    shoutman wrote:
    Is it possible to guarantee your ticket by reserving one tonight paying for it etc and then if you win a sat in the fitz sell your ticket on? Albeit for face value of course.

    cheers
    Luke

    The first challenge is to secure a seat tonight Luke....which is far from a given! However, if you do and then go on to win one in a satellite, then APAT will rellocate your purchased seat and refund you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 APAT


    connie147 wrote:
    If you sold a 220 runner event in 6 minutes for the welsh tournament, why is the Irish leg being held where only half that can enter? Specially when you expect "expected overwhelming demand" for the seats available? Why limit it?

    PS: not that i've anything against the Fitzwilliam. Just wondering why the tourneys being limited

    In reality, APAT could run the largest tournament ever seen in Europe tomorrow, if we could find the venue. We are guarding against running 3 or 4 days tournaments. Our events are for amateur players and asking you guys to take additional days off work is not on our agenda.

    Next season, the vision is to offer regional qualifying into each national event. So for example, we might hold 7 deepstack qualifying tournaments in Ireland with the top twenty getting expenses paid entries to all of our events.

    That will enable thousands of players to participate.

    In doing this, it is worth remembering that every APAT event is run under our rules, with a player focussed tournament and payout structure. This is unique in poker today, where many casino chains have different rules from venue to venue. So we are looking to positively change many things in the game also. The APAT tour is a model of how we believe our members would want to regularly play poker.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭connie147


    APAT wrote:
    In reality, APAT could run the largest tournament ever seen in Europe tomorrow, if we could find the venue. We are guarding against running 3 or 4 days tournaments. Our events are for amateur players and asking you guys to take additional days off work is not on our agenda.

    Next season, the vision is to offer regional qualifying into each national event. So for example, we might hold 7 deepstack qualifying tournaments in Ireland with the top twenty getting expenses paid entries to all of our events.

    That will enable thousands of players to participate.

    In doing this, it is worth remembering that every APAT event is run under our rules, with a player focussed tournament and payout structure. This is unique in poker today, where many casino chains have different rules from venue to venue. So we are looking to positively change many things in the game also. The APAT tour is a model of how we believe our members would want to regularly play poker.
    I like your ambitions and I wish you the best of luck with the tournament.But I still dont understand how your not running the tournament in a way to allow more players into it. Is it that you want the tournament to be a definate sell-out with people disappointed that they didnt get in?
    Is there a specific reason this tournament wasnt held in a bigger venue?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 APAT


    connie147 wrote:
    I like your ambitions and I wish you the best of luck with the tournament.But I still dont understand how your not running the tournament in a way to allow more players into it. Is it that you want the tournament to be a definate sell-out with people disappointed that they didnt get in?
    Is there a specific reason this tournament wasnt held in a bigger venue?

    No, we had hoped that the Fitz could accomodate more than the 150 runners that we will start with on June 2nd. However, having spoken to Luke and the team, it is a challenge to find that many dealers for a 2.30pm kick off on a Saturday.

    That said, we will bring 100+ players over from the UK for this event, and they will start to arrive on Friday. Bigger venue = more players = the need to go to 3 or 4 days. Unfortunatley it is not a bank holiday in the UK, so the work issues and additional hotel costs, means a really big event starts to move us into GUKPT and EPT territory.

    One of the things that APAT offers is a 2.30pm on time start on day one, and play will stop around midnight, where players can go and have a few beers and really enjoy the whole experience. We don't want these guys playing at 4am in the morning.

    I'm not saying we are right in all of our assumptions or decisions, but we have been exceptionally pleased by the reaction of our members to the tour so far. We will review all of these elements at the end of the season and change anything that sticks out as an issue.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,533 ✭✭✭ollyk1


    for anyone who's interested

    apatireland@yahoo.co.uk


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,274 ✭✭✭✭mdwexford


    i sent mine off pronto, i better get in


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,533 ✭✭✭ollyk1


    mdwexford wrote:
    i sent mine off pronto, i better get in

    5 seconds max for me after it went up on the web.....I hope to be getting a call tomorrow!


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    in like flynn. should have a seat. hopefully...


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    I sent mine at 12 mins past. Fingers crossed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,198 ✭✭✭digiman


    Damn it, I forgort all about this, was watching lost!! which was pure class as well.
    I hope I still have a chance of getting in, fingers crossed


  • Registered Users Posts: 39,030 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    well serves you right for not watching it on sunday like the rest of us ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Ste05


    Nice one, mine went at 9.10 so hopefully I'll get a call too...


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,088 ✭✭✭rag2gar


    yes couldnt have been more than 3 secs for me between refreshing and hitting send, by the sounds of it though with such a strong UK contingent as well it could be very hard to get a place


  • Registered Users Posts: 36,133 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    I was about five minutes after the off. :(


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,533 ✭✭✭ollyk1


    Anyone get a phone call yet?


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