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Motors challenge - Most powerful motor

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,854 ✭✭✭zuutroy


    1991 Toyota Sera. 943 Kg 80KW =>84.8 Kw/Ton


  • Registered Users Posts: 196 ✭✭Stevo11


    oops... UNmodified... ;-)


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,428 ✭✭✭Gerry


    1991 Saab 900 Turbo 16 S - 185bhp, 136kw, 1350kg.
    Would be different on torque alright, thats 282nm or 201 lb/ft.
    Torque is relevant for acceleration,
    bhp = torque x rpm/5252 , so roughly speaking, if you haven't much torque, you can still make plenty of bhp if you rev it enough :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,683 ✭✭✭✭Owen


    Fiat Cinquecento 85bhp 640kg

    Honda CBR600 105BHP 168kg

    'cptr

    Ah jaysus, if we're including other vehicles :

    Ducati 916 Bike 83.2 kw (114Bhp), 204 Kgs = 407 kw per metric tonne.

    Grob 115e Plane 149 kw (200hp), 990 Kgs = 150 kw per metric tonne.

    ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,779 ✭✭✭Neilw


    Seat Leon Cupra

    1322 kg
    132 kw
    :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 510 ✭✭✭Mayshine


    Gerry wrote:
    1991 Saab 900 Turbo 16 S - 185bhp, 136kw, 1350kg.
    Would be different on torque alright, thats 282nm or 201 lb/ft.
    Torque is relevant for acceleration,
    bhp = torque x rpm/5252 , so roughly speaking, if you haven't much torque, you can still make plenty of bhp if you rev it enough :)

    Yup and if you can rev it more than you can gear it shorter and get a better torque at the wheels using.

    Remember its torque at the wheels not at the flywheel that determines acceleration.

    I.e car A 150ft/lbs revs to 10,000
    car b 250 ft/lbs revs to 4500 - a diesel for instance

    Once up and running car A will out accelerate car B - I.e. excluding the off the line torque

    Anyway this is a friendly thread and I have already said no torque allow. Sorry - you'll have to bring it up on a new thread :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 510 ✭✭✭Mayshine


    Stevo11 wrote:
    oops... UNmodified... ;-)

    Is cool - there is a modified section now - and bikes also - no planes though!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭batman_oh


    seeing as its not just cars :P
    suzuki gsxr1000k6
    178bhp(133kw), 166kg
    i think thats about 1070 bhp/tonne(800and somethin kw per tonne)


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,683 ✭✭✭✭Owen


    batman_oh wrote:
    seeing as its not just cars :P
    suzuki gsxr1000k6
    178bhp(133kw), 166kg
    i think thats about 1070 bhp/tonne(800and somethin kw per tonne)

    Mmmm. Gixer. *drool*


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    Still in the top 3 :D for the moment


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  • Registered Users Posts: 310 ✭✭Cerberus


    Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution V
    280bhp and 1350kg
    207bhp/tonne

    153kw/tonne


  • Registered Users Posts: 123 ✭✭matt cork


    subaru impreza ppp 2006 - 305bhp / 222kw / 1470kg (she heavy:D )

    151kw per tonne


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    batman_oh wrote:
    seeing as its not just cars :P
    suzuki gsxr1000k6
    178bhp(133kw), 166kg
    i think thats about 1070 bhp/tonne(800and somethin kw per tonne)

    Mhhhmm ...even my *put-put* single cylinder 650 cc chopper with a modest 27 kw and 180 kgs gets 150 kw per tonne (and that right from low revs)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭VeVeX


    Audi A3 1.8t sport 150hp / 110kw / 1190kg

    92kw / tonne


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 1,467 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lucifer


    Car:Nissan Pulsar 1.6 VZ-R - Lucino
    Power:129 kW
    Weight:1090kg


    EDIT just realised i didnt include the year. its a '98


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14 Cash


    Sounds powerful, is powerful, will climb steep muddy fields and leave the rest behind, alas! does not figure well with stats here:D

    'Gaz 66' Russian made truck - my daily ride!

    Engine: (ZMZ-66)
    8-Cylinder V-engine V8
    Petrol with multifuel option: diesel mix upto 40%
    Capacity: 4250 ccm

    Achievement: 85 KW/115 HP (@3200 rpm.)

    Max. torque: 290 Nm @ 2500 rpm.

    Weight: variable, but mine is 3,400 kg.

    i.e. 25 kw per ton :D but I'd beat the rest in acceleration test if I can choose the hillside! PM me if you're interested in the challenge and bring your wellies.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,683 ✭✭✭✭Owen


    Cash wrote:
    'Gaz 66' Russian made truck - my daily ride!

    Ho-ly ****. That's a serious machine. I think I'm in love!


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,316 ✭✭✭lafors


    Honda Civic 06 1.8iVtec (Saloon)
    1242kg
    140hp...i think that works out to be 103kW??

    I wish I had some of the cars here...maybe someday :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 881 ✭✭✭Ernie Ball


    2001 Toyota MR2 Roadster

    103kW

    975kg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,669 ✭✭✭mukki


    Cash wrote:
    Sounds powerful, is powerful, will climb steep muddy fields and leave the rest behind, alas! does not figure well with stats here:D

    'Gaz 66' Russian made truck - my daily ride!

    Engine: (ZMZ-66)
    8-Cylinder V-engine V8
    Petrol with multifuel option: diesel mix upto 40%
    Capacity: 4250 ccm

    Achievement: 85 KW/115 HP (@3200 rpm.)

    Max. torque: 290 Nm @ 2500 rpm.

    Weight: variable, but mine is 3,400 kg.

    i.e. 25 kw per ton :D but I'd beat the rest in acceleration test if I can choose the hillside! PM me if you're interested in the challenge and bring your wellies.


    any chance of more pics, it looks brand new


    interesting thread,

    peugeot 307
    1335 kg
    110bhp


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,462 ✭✭✭TheBazman


    BMW 520d
    1585kg
    163bhp
    120KW


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭Victor_M


    BMW M3 343BHP 1577Kg


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 9,932 ✭✭✭mik_da_man


    Ford Focus 1.6 Titanium 2006

    1276 Kg
    115ps / 85 KW

    Mik


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 333 ✭✭Funxy


    I already provided my details but I'm getting confused how the formula works, can you provide the formula of getting kw? Lets say on my car:

    Weight: 879

    Power: 189 bhp

    As i'd like to do some figures on my other car, thanks ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 498 ✭✭bmoferrall


    Funxy wrote:
    As i'd like to do some figures on my other car, thanks ;)
    You'll probably need this for the other car :)

    Knowing what's coming I don't think I'll bother with my own!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 881 ✭✭✭Ernie Ball


    Funxy wrote:
    I already provided my details but I'm getting confused how the formula works, can you provide the formula of getting kw?

    1hp = 745.7 watts (or .7457kW)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭C_Breeze


    Bugatti Veyron

    Power-to-weight 522.78 bhp/ton

    I win


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    C_Breeze wrote:
    Bugatti Veyron

    Power-to-weight 522.78 bhp/ton

    I win

    Dreamers need not apply :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,496 ✭✭✭quarryman


    Mayshine wrote:
    Yup and if you can rev it more than you can gear it shorter and get a better torque at the wheels using.

    Remember its torque at the wheels not at the flywheel that determines acceleration.

    I.e car A 150ft/lbs revs to 10,000
    car b 250 ft/lbs revs to 4500 - a diesel for instance

    Once up and running car A will out accelerate car B - I.e. excluding the off the line torque

    Anyway this is a friendly thread and I have already said no torque allow. Sorry - you'll have to bring it up on a new thread :)


    see i don't get this. If you're doing 0-60 is it not ALL acceleration? So the car with the better torque will ony outperform it at the very start and in the lower REVs?

    i think i might have answered my own question.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭ando


    225hp ;) ,

    3027 lbs or 1373.0241 kgs

    Leon Cupra R


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