New Age Jack the Ripper?

Sorry if this has already been posted somewhere. Mods feel free to move if this is not the right area.

It seems to be a new prostitute killer .. three so far ..

LONDON (Reuters) - Police flooded the red light area of Ipswich with officers overnight in a bid to catch a feared serial killer after three prostitutes were found dead and two more reported missing.

Detectives said on Tuesday they had still not received news on Paula Clennell, 24, who has not been seen since Saturday, and 29-year-old Annette Nicholls, who has been missing for at least a week.

The deaths and disappearances have spread panic in the back streets of Ipswich which were reported to have been quiet as most sex workers heeded police warnings to stay at home.

Police said they were still only linking two murders -- those of Gemma Adams, 25, and 19-year-old Tania Nicol whose naked bodies were found in the same stretch of water to the west of the city.

The naked corpse of a third women, 24, was found in Nacton to the east of Ipswich on December 10.

"We are not linking it (the death) at this stage, clearly there are distinct and striking similarities -- all young, all women, all prostitutes who worked the streets of Ipswich," said Detective Chief Superintendent Stewart Gull.

"The body underwent a Home Office post mortem late last night and I anticipate having those results today," he told BBC radio.

Gull said it was too early to say whether one individual or more were behind the murders.

"I am convinced the working prostitutes in Ipswich probably hold the key as to who is responsible and they need to contact Suffolk Police with any suspicions they may have."

On December 2 police found Nicol in a stream and on December 8 police divers recovered the body of Adams in the same stretch of water.

Detectives have said none of the dead women are thought to have been sexually assaulted.

Source: Reuters

r3nu4l

This is happening only 28 miles from where I live, needless to say the local newspapers are having a field day. It's the best period of real news they've had in ages :rolleyes:

Edit: Should probably be in News and Media unless the mods are willing to allow that special 'AH flavour' for this

Tak3n

hope he got his money worths first..

Sleepy

That's a pretty sick comment Tak3n. If these girls were working the streets their lives were probably pretty awful in the first place. Street-walkers are the lowest end of the prostitution industry and from what I've read usually there to support a drug habit or worse. Don't be so fvckin' heartless.

Ciaran500

I lol'ed

Any news on the other two girls that are missing?

scojones

Sleepy wrote:

That's a pretty sick comment Tak3n. If these girls were working the streets their lives were probably pretty awful in the first place. Street-walkers are the lowest end of the prostitution industry and from what I've read usually there to support a drug habit or worse. Don't be so fvckin' heartless.

Go on out of that. Prostitutes make a fortune. If they're good at it and aren't complete mingers they can make around 3 grand a week. Their life doesn't have to be a shambles for them to do it, some of them do it for the money - it's that simple. Sure, they could do better things with themselves, get better jobs, etc. The fact that you associate drug use and prostitution is kinda funny. Don't assume so much.

Naked Lepper

its cos of grand theft auto

Naked Lepper

sorry meant to say Vice City (not the one where u have the top down view)

Cake Fiend

Sleepy wrote:

I've read usually there to support a drug habit

And whose fault is it that they have that drug habit?

Kinetic^

Tak3n wrote:

hope he got his money worths first..

While I did laugh at your sick joke, it's wrong. Clearly there's no value of life left in society anymore!!!

Sleepy

sjones wrote:

Go on out of that. Prostitutes make a fortune. If they're good at it and aren't complete mingers they can make around 3 grand a week. Their life doesn't have to be a shambles for them to do it, some of them do it for the money - it's that simple. Sure, they could do better things with themselves, get better jobs, etc. The fact that you associate drug use and prostitution is kinda funny. Don't assume so much.

It implies in the article that the prostitutes in question were street workers rather than the more upmarket 'escorts' that can clear 3k a week. Like I said in my original post, the girls working the streets do so out of desperation rather than simply deciding there's good money to be made in prostitution.

Kintarō Hattori

Sleepy wrote:

It implies in the article that the prostitutes in question were street workers rather than the more upmarket 'escorts' that can clear 3k a week. Like I said in my original post, the girls working the streets do so out of desperation rather than simply deciding there's good money to be made in prostitution.

Absolutely have to agree with Sleepy on this.

fade2black

Also, wasn't the Yorkshire Ripper the new age Jack the Ripper...

r3nu4l

While I do think that Tak3n's response was terrible and insensitive, it is funny in that macabre way and it is what I expected someone to post in true AH-style.

I agree with Sleepy, the women who walk the streets are at the lower end of the market and are usually (not always) supporting a drug habit. They are not generally the ones clearing major tax-free moolah each week, most of what they make usually goes back into drugs.

Terry

regardless of whether they were drug abusers or not, it's never nice to see anyone killed in such a brutal way. just remember, these women were someones daughter/ sister/ mother etc.

dr.bollocko

Are ye now debating whether it is more ok to laugh at dead prostitutes than it is to laugh at dead non-prostitutes?

Jesus ****ing christ.

User45701

dr.bollocko wrote:

Are ye now debating whether it is more ok to laugh at dead prostitutes than it is to laugh at dead non-prostitutes?

Jesus ****ing christ.

well for me there is a certain comedy about death because look at the billions of people who devote there lives to some sort of religion because of some moronic fear of something that every single known thing in the universe goes through

People, animals, insects, plants, stars everything thing dies yet people fear it so much and waste there lives because of that fear.

To the best of mans knowledge you only get one life so make the most of it, actually do black hones die?.... hmm a Question for the astronomy forum right there

But anyway to answer your question yes there is a different huge difference in people dying some deserve to die and thats always good when they die

but some people die funny deaths, what about that guy who`s life mission was to see how close he could put his head to a moving train to get in the Guinness book of records? that was in the Darwin awards

Also i think it would be funnier for someone in school who works and studys allot to die than it would be someone in school who does not work and enjoys themselves.

Ph3n0m

Getting back on topic.

Given that he (killers of prostitutes usually are) has killed atleast 3 - I would say you are looking at someone very like the Yorkshire Ripper

letterman

r3nu4l wrote:

This is happening only 28 miles from where I live, needless to say the local newspapers are having a field day. It's the best period of real news they've had in ages :rolleyes:


Hands up, anynybody think we have a suspect here. Account for your movements or have you started your own version of urban renewal

r3nu4l

letterman wrote:

Hands up, anynybody think we have a suspect here. Account for your movements or have you started your own version of urban renewal

Ah, trial by intarweb and popular opinion, who needs witch-hunting?

Well, as I've recently moved to the area from Cambridge and as I've recently bought a car, that would make me mighty suspicious in my view alright...but before we bring out the lynching rope, I don't have that 'local' knowledge that these killers often have.

As for 'urban renewal', looks like even my username is making me look guilty, it's a conspiracy I tells ya!

Pighead

letterman wrote:

Hands up, anynybody think we have a suspect here. Account for your movements or have you started your own version of urban renewal

No offence letterman but a show of hands isn't an ideal way to gauge public opinion when you're on a bulletin board. Why not try using the fancy poll option?

Pansy Potter

Ok lets do the fancy poll option.
Whatever the result, hand him over to the West Midlands police - they know how to deal with these unruly Irish reprobates. Shows his location as Cambridge but now says he's moved near Ipswich and has a car. Open and shut case. Bring back the death penalty.

raido9

User45701 wrote:

well for me there is a certain comedy about death because look at the billions of people who devote there lives to some sort of religion because of some moronic fear of something that every single known thing in the universe goes through

People, animals, insects, plants, stars everything thing dies yet people fear it so much and waste there lives because of that fear.

To the best of mans knowledge you only get one life so make the most of it, actually do black hones die?.... hmm a Question for the astronomy forum right there

But anyway to answer your question yes there is a different huge difference in people dying some deserve to die and thats always good when they die

but some people die funny deaths, what about that guy who`s life mission was to see how close he could put his head to a moving train to get in the Guinness book of records? that was in the Darwin awards

Also i think it would be funnier for someone in school who works and studys allot to die than it would be someone in school who does not work and enjoys themselves.

What a ridiculous post? Am I right in assuming from your post that you think people's lives are wasted on things such as religion and education?

Also how do people "waste there lives because of that fear [of dying]"?

And as for the last line in your post, don't you think its possible to study "allot" and enjoy themselves too. Why do the two have to be exclusive?

r3nu4l

Pansy Potter wrote:

Ok lets do the fancy poll option.
Whatever the result, hand him over to the West Midlands police - they know how to deal with these unruly Irish reprobates. Shows his location as Cambridge but now says he's moved near Ipswich and has a car. Open and shut case. Bring back the death penalty.

Interesting you should say that as there are a couple of users on boards who use that old classic "Innocent until proven Irish" in their sigs

xzanti

This poor man

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13556324,00.html

Waiting to hear if his daughter is dead.. My God, so sad

MrJoeSoap

Can't believe nobody has picked up on the title...

"New Age" Jack The Ripper? Might find him at Stonehenge so...

tallus

Apparently there are two other street walkers from the same area who are unaccounted for. I hope to good jaysus they catch whoever it is soon.

magpie

By the title of the thread I assumed there was someone on the rampage with dream catchers, incense, dreadlocks and clogs.

The phrase you are looking for is "Modern Day" rather than "New Age"

letterman

r3nu4l wrote:

Well, as I've recently moved to the area from Cambridge and as I've recently bought a car,

Not a VW Beetle by any chance!! Not to worry, they all don't have dark hair, parted in the middle so unless you were spotted in the area with your arm in a cast, you are off the hook!!;)

Gran Hermano

Two more dead hookers (or should I use the PC term 'sex workers') found.
Details on Sky News now.
That's five in total confirmed dead.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1243857,00.html

Robbo

MrJoeSoap wrote:

Can't believe nobody has picked up on the title...

"New Age" Jack The Ripper? Might find him at Stonehenge so...

You beat me to it. I was going to advise the police to look for a converted 70s ambulance and the unmistakable stench of a white man with dreadlocks.

Latter day tbh.

"You're a naughty one,
Saucy Jack,
You're a haughty one, saucy Jack."

User45701

raido9 wrote:

What a ridiculous post? Am I right in assuming from your post that you think people's lives are wasted on things such as religion and education?

Also how do people "waste there lives because of that fear [of dying]"?

And as for the last line in your post, don't you think its possible to study "allot" and enjoy themselves too. Why do the two have to be exclusive?

I cant relay answer your Q without going way off topic i tried to stay on topic with my original post by staying relevant to the post about comedy/death

You see i believe the education system to be flawed and its my believe that if something is broken or flawed noone should comply with it till it is fixed, even the most intelligent 600 point people in the leaving cert i asked said that the education system in this country was flawed.

So when i was younger i always tried to explain things to people like for example tests should be a test of intellect not ones ability to memorise facts, so my reasoning was test are to make sure the most intelligent get jobs but in that case studying should be banned this allows for 2 things that i consider posative

1. More free rime for youngins to enjoy themselves
2. The people who are actually very smart do well as opposed to those who simply spend a large amount of there time memorising facts from a book.

When i say wasting lives on education i mean say for ex someone who studies 3-4 hours daily for years and as a result misses out on whatever it is they like
sport
computer games
drinking
TV
eating
cinema

whatever, then bang hit by a truck when crossing the road, and funnily enough another person same age but lived the complete opposite life style he never bothered with the whole studying buzz all he did was booze and enjoy himself with friends, anyway he got hit by the same truck so they both died.... Anyway who lived the better life who had more fun? Who enjoyed there life more? we don't know for sure but we can make a pretty good educated guess

raido9 wrote:

Also how do people "waste there lives because of that fear [of dying]"?

Well that is all a matter of perspective so i might have been slightly off in that statement, some might say i waste my life because i play PC games watch TV and drink (those that say that are sports fanatics might say that)

raido9 wrote:

And as for the last line in your post, don't you think its possible to study "allot" and enjoy themselves too. Why do the two have to be exclusive?

Well because i have many times in my life heard someone say that they are unable to do something or attend a event whether it be a party or music thing because they where studying therefore they are losing out on enjoyment and if they where to die young then they have missed out on some of there happiness.

I know how off topic this is i only posted because you asked if you wish to finish this conversation i am more than happy to but lets do it over pm so the topic does not get locked for being off topic

Feral Mutant

Five dead would be the same amount confirmed killed by Jack the Ripper. Apparently there were more that weren't pinned on him though.

Naked Lepper wrote:

its cos of grand theft auto

Jack Thompson, is that you?

scojones

They found the two other womens bodies. I'm guessing someone watched Se7en one to many times and decided to rid the UK of prostitutes.

User45701

with 5 dead in such a short space of time he is very active, too active its possible however unlikely that there is more than one culprit.

I wonder was this rushed? or did the person put planning into it?
so many questions its possible the culprit is someone who has recently been diagnosed with a incurable diesse and holds some grudge against these women for some reason i know that if and when i am diagnosed with a terminal diesse and there are people i have a problem with still alive,you will all be talking about me here as we talk about them. Perhaps a wide whose husband liked sex workers?

Takeshi_Kovacs

User45701 wrote:

with 5 dead in such a short space of time he is very active, too active its possible however unlikely that there is more than one culprit.

I wonder was this rushed? or did the person put planning into it?
so many questions its possible the culprit is someone who has recently been diagnosed with a incurable diesse and holds some grudge against these women for some reason i know that if and when i am diagnosed with a terminal diesse and there are people i have a problem with still alive,you will all be talking about me here as we talk about them. Perhaps a wide whose husband liked sex workers?

Lets hope there is a real life Dexter out there..

carpothepunk

According to bbc news,2 more bodies just found

Faith

Is that on top of the two they found earlier today, or two more, bringing the total to 7?

Ciaran500

Nope, still 5 according to all the reports I can see.

Huggles

No, 5 dead now.

this makes for interesting reading.

It gets quiet around 2002, I wonder was he in jail/mental hospital for few years and just got out???

LundiMardi

The total is now 5.

fireblade1

i think it is still five girls killed
the way the statement from the police sounded it was presumed that they are the two women missing but its not definite yet they have to wait for confirmation from the pathologists etc
it is also a suspicion that the killer escalated(sp?) and killed the other two because of the increased media coverage and the fact that the police were looking for the other two women. that might mean he is keeping them somewhere before he kills them!
its really freaky so glad i dont live there!
the poor women nobody deserves that !

LundiMardi

On Sky News yesterday they were talking about the murders, it was also mentioned that in the past 10 years there have been approx 60 prostitutes murdered in the UK with only 16 arrests made in relation to same. Not a very good figure at all.

Terry

this thread is freaky, even by AH standards.

haunted-room

Cake Fiend wrote:

And whose fault is it that they have that drug habit?

Dont know, never spoke to them, did you?

Huggles

User45701 wrote:

so many questions its possible the culprit is someone who has recently been diagnosed with a incurable diesse and holds some grudge against these women for some reason i know that if and when i am diagnosed with a terminal diesse and there are people i have a problem with still alive,you will all be talking about me here as we talk about them. Perhaps a wide whose husband liked sex workers?

Right. odd.

Terry

I agree. Catherine Janeway would be very disappointed with that attitude.

Black Swan

Don Henley would have a field day with this kind of news. Truly "Dirty Laundry!" The type of news that sells newspapers (and other forms of media), improves ratings, and makes advertisers happy. An interesting comment on our society?

Terry

that's another story for another day. (not saying it's off topic, but let's keep it to the subject at hand for now).
the media are having a field day with this and i'm sure the sales of papers and the viewing figures on tv news reports have shot up.
what does this say about us as a people?
i don't know. go start a thread about it. i'm too lazy to do so.

haunted-room

Blue_Lagoon wrote:

Don Henley would have a field day with this kind of news. Truly "Dirty Laundry!" The type of news that sells newspapers (and other forms of media), improves ratings, and makes advertisers happy. An interesting comment on our society?

yep, were all a bunch of muppets, I blame god really:cool:

mike65

TheGooner wrote:

this makes for interesting reading.

Ireland might have its own serial killer bearing in mind the several women who have gone missing in the Leinster region.

Mike.