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Help here - are we british?

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    #32
    Terry
    Registered Users Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    Stekelly wrote:
    No one is refering to Iriah people as being british either . The british Isles is/was a Geographical term for the group of islands we belond to. ie the physical land making up the islands is/was the british isles, the people on the southern part of the island of ireland are not called british people.

    cant make it clearer than that.
    apart from the OP's boss.



    The people in the north are British.
    but are entitled to Irish citizenship and quite a lot of them, on both sides, use an Irish passport. those crazy kidnapper types in foreign countries tend to leave Irish people alone don't you know.


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    #33
    Feral Mutant
    Registered Users Posts: 950 ✭✭✭Feral Mutant


    No. I'm British but that's due to being born in England, my (born and living in Ireland) family are not British. I don't want to descend into an argument about the British Isles, not that it matters. To be British, you must be from Britain. Being born in the British Isles (not commenting on whether or not Ireland is part) does not make you British any more than being born in a garage makes you a car.


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    #34
    Ruu_Old
    Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    julep wrote:
    hold on a second.
    disagreeing with being called british does not make you a "barstool IRA" type of person.
    people who want to forget our past sicken me as much as those who support the IRA. there is a middle ground. we can remember our past without hating british people or disliking being compared to the british. Germany is beside France. doesn't make the Frenbch people more German though.

    No but it brings in those sort of people onto the thread, you know it and I know it.


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    #35
    Terry
    Registered Users Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    well, everyone is entitled to their opinion. i've no problem with "those people", as long as they word their arguements correctly.
    otherwise i'll ban their asses.


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    #36
    Mr. Presentable
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,496 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    Stekelly wrote:
    The people in the north are British.

    The people in the North are NOT British. They are part of the UK. Not the same thing.


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    #37
    Dr_Teeth
    Registered Users Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭Dr_Teeth


    We're no more British citizens for living in the British Isles than a Canadian is a U.S. citizen for living in North America.


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    #38
    Dave!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    Yeah, we're British, God Save the Queen and so on... julep, join in!

    Ruu I think it would be wise to close this... It's a duplicate thread for starters, but also, my head hurts from the head-banging orgy that was the last thread... I'm afraid the wall will collapse if this thread continues! :(


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    #39
    Mossy Monk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    Trilla wrote:
    Views on this pleaaaze

    your boss is a stupid bastard


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    #40
    Ponster
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    nipplenuts wrote:
    The people in the North are NOT British. They are part of the UK. Not the same thing.

    Doesn't matter. It still makes them British should they choose to be so.


    British
    Adjective referring to Britain, or its inhabitants or citizens. Taken to mean 'of the United Kingdom', rather than 'of Great Britain'.


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    #41
    JaysusMacfeck
    Closed Accounts Posts: 324 ✭✭JaysusMacfeck


    And the Polish are all Nazis. Your boss doesn't deserve his Irish passport.


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    #42
    Talliesin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,314 ✭✭✭Talliesin


    We're not British, because we aren't in Britain. Q.E.D.

    We are Pretanic with them though, since we're in the second largest of the Pretanic isles.


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    #43
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,978 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Oh noes! The Pretanic Isles argument.

    Mike.


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    #44
    peasant
    Registered Users Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    You're wrong ...all of you !

    We all are Caucasians !!

    (except for those among us with Afro-Hibernian or any other possible Dash Hibernian roots that is)

    :D:D:D

    Does it really matter ?


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    #45
    Mossy Monk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    Ponster wrote:
    Doesn't matter. It still makes them British should they choose to be so.


    British
    Adjective referring to Britain, or its inhabitants or citizens. Taken to mean 'of the United Kingdom', rather than 'of Great Britain'.

    actually they're not British. Northern Ireland is a part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland


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    #46
    Terry
    Registered Users Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    great britain?
    that would make us one of the lesser british isles.
    **** that. i'm not a lesser anything.

    well, i'm not lesser british anyway.


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    #47
    gurramok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    People in the north are British and Irish depending of their passport choice imho.

    And no, we are not part of British Isles, even the state does not recognise the term, we are an Irish Isle.
    Pretanic sounds a nice name though, what is that ? :)


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    #48
    Ponster
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    Mossy Monk wrote:
    actually they're not British. Northern Ireland is a part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland


    haha, Ok then. You try going up there and telling them that they aren't British.

    If you're born in the North then you have a choice between being British or Irish or both at the same time. Being British doesn't mean being born in Britain but born in the UK.
    Yeah, I know it doesn't make any sense but that's just the way it is.


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    #49
    Dave!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    julep wrote:
    great britain?
    that would make us one of the lesser british isles.
    **** that. i'm not a lesser anything.

    well, i'm not lesser british anyway.

    Oh dear, here comes that inferiority complex again :o

    Somebody please close this before my head spins off my shoulders!


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    #50
    admiralofthefleet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    another are we/arent we thread, we are not british [subjects] we are irish [citizens]. there is no such thing as the british isles, dermot ahern announced a while ago that the term carries no official status and is not used by the government, i find the term very offensive and use the terms island of ireland and island of britian.
    go tell your boss to go back to school and study geography better this time round


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    #51
    Terry
    Registered Users Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    DaveMcG wrote:
    Oh dear, here comes that inferiority complex again :o

    Somebody please close this before my head spins off my shoulders!
    terribly sorry, but we don't seem to have a tongue in cheek emoticon*









    *to be read in a 50's ealing movie posh english accent.


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    #52
    Dave!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    If it was tongue in cheek then it bears a striking resemblance to most of your other posts! They can't ALL be tongue in cheek, surely! :D

    Why isn't this closed julep? You've been posting in it and so has Ruu, but it's a duplicate thread which has been linked to already. Any other duplicate is closed or merged, why hasn't this one been?


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    #53
    crosstownk
    Registered Users Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭crosstownk


    I can't believe that this has come up again. The British Isles is simply a geographical term. Thats it. Anyone who can construe from that that we are British needs a cranial examination. We all know where we stand - no matter what name is assigned to our geographical location.
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    #54
    county
    Registered Users Posts: 6,800 ✭✭✭county


    Trilla wrote:
    Argument arose here in work. Simple really, our boss reckons we are British because we are part of the British Isles. He claims - We are not part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, yet because we are part of the British Isles (which we are) we are british.

    Views on this pleaaaze


    he`s pulling your leg,and you fell for it,sucker


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    #55
    jimmycrackcorm
    Registered Users Posts: 14,331 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    The op should hand the boss a piece of paper With the words "British B@st@rds" written on it and ask him does he see any Irish there....

    I can also now understand how easily the Iraqis could get upset with those Argentinians being Invaders from the Americas.


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    #56
    crosstownk
    Registered Users Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭crosstownk


    The whole thread is simply a pedantic argument and should be locked as its been visited so many times before..............
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    #57
    The Sweeper
    Registered Users Posts: 10,658 ✭✭✭✭The Sweeper


    admiralgar wrote:
    i find the term very offensive and use the terms island of ireland and island of britian.

    Thereby causing similar offence to the Scottish and the Welsh. Nice.


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    #58
    gurramok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    Minesajackdaniels wrote:
    Thereby causing similar offence to the Scottish and the Welsh. Nice.

    We don't live in Britain, they do.


    We live in Ireland, nice :)


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    #59
    Nalz
    Registered Users Posts: 16,736 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    county wrote:
    he`s pulling your leg,and you fell for it,sucker

    naa, i just wanted a thread to build up and show him. He's persistent enough and was argueing with 2 or 3 of us. You say white, he'll say cyan blue. Thats the guy he is. Just needed a way to shut him up, a few comments here and there!

    Roight that ends that Fintin


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    #60
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Minesajackdaniels wrote:
    Thereby causing similar offence to the Scottish and the Welsh. Nice.

    Why should it cause offence to the Welsh and Scots, but not the English?

    I hate the term "British" or "Brit". It's a term used by the BBC to be Politically correct. There are no British people in Britain, we are all either English, Welsh or Scottish.

    I am English and I am as much a Briton as I am a european.


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    #61
    Hagar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    The only time the term British may be correctly used to describe a person from Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland is when they win some sporting event or other World-side accolade. If they don't win they revert to their alternate nationalities of Welsh, Scottish and Irish. The term Northern Irish is rarely heard or seen. It must be remembered at all times, win lose or draw an Englishman will always be an Englishman.





    /Edited for spelling


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