Revenge

Sarky

See? You're rising above it all already. Before you know it you'll be turning every cheek you have. HOORAY!

Shinners23

Shinners23 wrote:

Well It really depends what been done to be honest. I think everyone should live by the rule of three;

Ever mind the Rule of Three
Three times what thou givest returns to thee
This lesson well, thou must learn
Thee only gets what thou dost earn!

So get over it and believe in Karma - you don't have to lift a finger!!!

And this lesson was brought to you by Shinners!!

Em.
That's not what karma is.
Could you stop muddling up various religions please.

Dragan

Shinners23 wrote:

Ever mind the Rule of Three
Three times what thou givest returns to thee
This lesson well, thou must learn
Thee only gets what thou dost earn!

I had been happily unaware of this up until Bluewolf quoting it.

All i can say is, of course, your right, in the whole history of the universe absolutely everyone has always received exactly what they deserve.

How could i be so foolish??? :rolleyes:

LadyJ

Isn't karma when you do something bad and it comes back to bite you in the next life,not this life?

LadyJ

LadyJ wrote:

Isn't karma when you do something bad and it comes back to bite you in the next life,not this life?

Karma means action. Actions have various consequences. Some are short reaching - in this life - and some are longer reaching - another life.

http://www.buddhanet.net/fundbud9.htm this might help ^^

fly_agaric

ChillyS wrote:

Personally once I get mad, i'm dangerous and will do whatever i can!(hmm maybe anger management courses might be in order)

Yes. I think you should talk to a professional before you seriously hurt someone else or perhaps even harm yourself as a result of your stupid and petty thirst for vengence.:(

You'll be in my prayers...

fly_agaric

Ikky Poo2 wrote:

Women, in my experience, can simply not let something be.

Maybe women tend to be somewhat keener on dishing out revenge because they think they can get away with it without suffering consequences? The same way they can often be braver than men (IMO) when it comes to standing up to street thuggery and harassment.

monkey tennis

ChillyS wrote:

a at the time recent ex once called me fat, so i got a friend to chat him up online, get him on webcam to strip, and recorded it. I put on my webcam and when he'd stripped i let him see my laughing face and pointing finger:D still brings a smile to his face

Did it make you any thinner?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

fly_agaric wrote:

Maybe women tend to be somewhat keener on dishing out revenge because they think they can get away with it without suffering consequences? The same way they can often be braver than men (IMO) when it comes to standing up to street thuggery and harassment.

Interesting theory... but I think they tend to act on emotion rather than brains. Certainly, my reasons for not going after revenge are not fear of consequences.

smk135

monkey tennis wrote:

Did it make you any thinner?

hahahha excellent!!

personally i think that whatever you want to call it, Karma or whatever, i definitely beleive that what goes around comes around. In the good and the bad sense.

i think seeking revenge is not only petty but also more self-destructive than anything.

if you can manage to feel "love", so to say, for every person that you would otherwise feel anger towards or hate or a negative emotion, you will in fact be a much better person in yourself. for those who think I'm waffling hippy ****e, it's been proven that people who think "positive thoughts" come out better in the long run for everything (health etc..)

thats my humble opinion anyway!

pbsuxok1znja4r

To hell with revenge, TBH. It's for sad, petty, bitter people who have nothing and no-one better to turn to when someone screws them over.

I'm far more inclined to take action against someone who professes their support for revenge than against someone who did something shitty but doesn't believe in revenge.

Pffft @ the 'rule of three'. All rules of three. People citing such 'rules' sound utterly brainwashed.

Sarky and LadyJ are dead right. I feel sorry for anyone who is controlled by revenge.

Dragan

*thinks* I wouldn't mind getting into this a little more, but won't be at a comp all weekend, so will leave my Q's till Monday morning if that is cool?

CathyMoran

I think that the best form of revenge is to move on and be a sucess and let karma deal with the rest...having said that I have been genuinelly upset when bad things have happened to people who hurt me (it was not me!)

Nightwish

I shredded my ex's application form when he applied for a job in the place where I work.

EOA_Mushy

Destroy their job, relations with their family, destroy their possetions & befriend them.

When they come to tell you their problems as the last person they can turn to.... Punch them in the nose and close the door.:mad:

But in reality

CathyMoran wrote:

I think that the best form of revenge is to move on and be a sucess and let karma deal with the rest...

pred racer

directly after an incident, Id be thinking Im gonna get that ba$tard, but normally I calm down and dont bother.

i did take a teachers bike apart and put it back together on the canteen roof,
(3 stories high with only a small opening to get out onto the roof)
Does that count?;)

LadyJ

Just remembered something insane!

Went to college with this lunatic who (after being dumped by him) tampered with her ex's CAO form and put down forestry or something. He was about 22 at the time and had finally decided what he wanted to do in college and she fcuked it up for him.

Now,she told me this herself,but it could be bullsh!t because,like,I say,she was a lunatic. However,what a b!tch! Now that was uncalled for. I mean,her boyf was a right cúnt but still...bit extreme.

theTinker

I wouldnt mind this thread having some more valid discussion (read no personal attacking)

Someone mentioned that revenge is a normal emotional response that shouldn't be repressed. After a few minutes thought, I agreed with that.

*some ****ing bird in my chimney screaming for 20 mins now, im gonna kill it i swear. It even woke me up ffs.*

Back to point, After more thinking I concluded that, in my opinion revenge desire is a way your body simply tells you that you feel like you were wronged but you didn't resolve the situation or protect yourself from it happening/(happening again). Do people agree with this? It seems like good natural warning system imo.

If this is the case, then basing my memories on this, I dont ever remember feeling the need to take revenge for an issue when I've properly confronted the offending person about it. If somebody pisses me off, I usually get angry and feel petty, but when I confront them maturely and directly and then resolve the situation to a good level, I usually dont feel the need to be petty or revenge at all. I guess then that I think revenge is only something people take when they have not resolved a situation satisfactorially enough for thier.... emotional self? Like revenge only stays a desire when their mind/body/etc still feel like the situation wasn't resolved? get me?

Im still thinking about the what revenge is when it comes to a situation where the other person wont let you confront them so there is not available resolution opportunity..thats a toughy.
PS: people say my writing sucks so forgive the lack the readability, i tried!

Sam Vimes

haunted-room wrote:

get over yourself!

And none of this "it takes a bigger man to walk away" crap!! The reason most people dont seek revenge is because they are scared

revenge is petty. just because you feel the need to act like a child doesn't mean everyone else does. if someone wrongs me, they get added to my "bad people" list and i just do my best to avoid them from then on so they can't so it again.

Dragan

Now then, as i said at the in an earlier post i am genuinely curious about a few of the responses in this thread. To be honest, the people who assume they would not seek out revenge have been put into one set of stereotype in my head, while the people who would seek out revenge have been put into another and as such i apologise for that. It's just the way my thoughts have ended up wandering on this subject and i am curious to see if i am right, or wrong.

First of all, to those who have posted that the would seek revenge in this thread. All your threads seem to be aimed at "the dreaded ex" or at least the assumption that some kind of physical or emotional advancement was spurned or a relationship came to an end in a way that you felt was bad for you. Am i right with this, no one else seems to have offered any reason other reason for seeking revenge.

To the group who would NOT seek out revenge as it is offered in this thread ( i.e due to a relationship going wrong ) , is this once again the only reason you could think of for needing revenge? Has nothing else ever occured to you that would make you want to seek vengeance for something?

Now then, lets look at the meaning of the word revenge

revenge : to exact punishment or expiation for a wrong on behalf of, esp. in a resentful or vindictive spirit - as we can see, the very use of the word would indicate, but not provide the absolute proof, that the action taken was vindictive....it should be noted however that vindictive does not automatically imply petty.

I have sought revenge at 3 times over the course of my life. All these occured back in my darker days, when i was, quite simply, a different person to who i am now. It should be noted that i believe in revenge in it's finest form. Only sought after a very, very serious crime has been comitted against me or one of mine.

On the first occasion, a good friend of mine, who had finally taken the steps and found the courage to break up with her physically abusive boyfriend was beaten by him to pretty much within an inch of her life.

On the second, a friend of mine was shot and killed.

On the third, a friend of mine was stabbed and killed.

Now then, while the above three instances are pretty extreme, and i would never wish there happening upon anyone....can you be so certain, that over the course of your live nothing will ever happen that would make you wish for revenge?

Can you be so certain, that to wish a return of harm upon another will always seem petty to you?

Black Swan

Dragan wrote:

I'm not sure which clever little saying is cooler....maybe we should make a poll?:)

The Revenge of the Pollsters








*A new horror film, soon coming to your local cinamaplex (Don't forget to fill out the poll at the concession stand while you stand in long lines for our overpriced soft drinks and popcorn).



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Civilian_Target

Life's too short for revenge - so you should get it right away

haunted-room

Commander Vimes wrote:

revenge is petty. just because you feel the need to act like a child doesn't mean everyone else does. if someone wrongs me, they get added to my "bad people" list and i just do my best to avoid them from then on so they can't so it again.

Act like a child!? Right, obviously nobody has ever done something so bad it destroyed your life or your familys life then?

Bad people list!? Wtf?

LadyJ

Dragan wrote:

To the group who would NOT seek out revenge as it is offered in this thread ( i.e due to a relationship going wrong ) , is this once again the only reason you could think of for needing revenge? Has nothing else ever occured to you that would make you want to seek vengeance for something?

Apart from the ex thing,the other thing I thought about was the death penalty thread on humanities. It seems a lot of people in favour of the death penalty are more concerned with getting revenge and punishing criminals rater than seeking justice,or exploring a real solution to the problem at hand.

Now,I can understand completely why you sought revenge on the three ocasions mentioned and I can't say that if I had been in your situation I wouldn't have wanted to do the same,but I know I would not have done it.

It's just not me. I'm sure I might want to go out and seek vengeance on those people but I would hope that someone would talk sense into me or that I would be able to stop myself.

I'm not condemning your actions but
it's just not my style to get my own back,as it were,even for something as terrible as what you've mentioned.

Maynoothman123

Not proud of it but it was my ex friiend. Kept on chatting up my gf at the time, trying to score her. I found out and just saw the red mist. Got a lump hammer from my house and went after him with hit, breaking both his wrists.

Sarky

haunted-room wrote:

Act like a child!? Right, obviously nobody has ever done something so bad it destroyed your life or your familys life then?

Not as cured as I thought then.

I'd love to hear your justification for how destroying someone else's (family's) life to get back at them makes you a better person, either than those who wronged you or anyone else who might pick up the pieces and get on with life.

Dragan

LadyJ wrote:

I'm not condemning your actions

Ah, only a fool would think that some is condeming them simply by having a different opinion! And I might be ugly, but my momma did't raise no fool!

A very well put answer, thanks for taking the time to reply.

theTinker

Dragan wrote:

On the first occasion, a good friend of mine, who had finally taken the steps and found the courage to break up with her physically abusive boyfriend was beaten by him to pretty much within an inch of her life.

On the second, a friend of mine was shot and killed.

On the third, a friend of mine was stabbed and killed.

Dude...Sorry for them circumstances.

As i said above in my post i believe that revenge is just unresolved emotional responses to a hurtful/oppressing incident. Though I admit I was thinking in far smaller and easier terms than those above. Like getting dumped, a friend doing something really mean, someone just being cruel etc...

I always know in my heart though that regardless of my emotional development which i've worked very hard on and any morals i have. If ANYONE be it like a stranger did certain things to people like my mom, close friends, family or my children(non existent atm). I would completely take revenge without mercy or doubt. I think its sick as hell but If somebody touch my child or loved one in a really bad way, I would forego all consequences and exact revenge like the devils locomotive. I'd be smart enough to wait a while though....I really dont like the thought of it at all to be honest. I just know certain actions to me basically neutralise a persons rights to anything.
I'm not saying revenge still isnt just a repressed emotional anguish, im just saying at a certain point in the extreme, I would accept it anyway.

Do some of you non revenge seeking advocates believe that in the EXTREME circumstances you could hold back on it? I know for a fact some of my friends believe that they would never kill somebody regardless of what was done...mostly they are female i should add though.

haunted-room

Sarky wrote:

Not as cured as I thought then.

I'd love to hear your justification for how destroying someone else's (family's) life to get back at them makes you a better person, either than those who wronged you or anyone else who might pick up the pieces and get on with life.

No, i would get revenge on the individual, not his family. Im not an evil person and I dont believe in karma either. And i dont think for a second it makes me a better person than anyone else and I also dont think it makes me any worse than anyone else

Dreamer 7

My man and me had a local a few yrs ago and went there every thurs night. we got to know the staff and one lounge girl in particular. Nice girl eastern european, we used to have a chat about my kids etc.

One night I went out for a smoke and when i came back she was at the table, she didnt notice me approach and i couldnt believe my ears when I heard her ask my man out!:eek:

She knew about me and our kids .........I was soooo mad:mad:

So... over the next couple of days I called the pub a few times (pretending to be someone different each time), each time complaining about this girl in question and the bad service she was providing.

So she got sacked hahahahaha
Oh and it turns out she was illegal here anyway.... and then she got deported hahahahahahahahaahahhahaha

Dont mess with my man bitch , c ya later!!!!!:D