Revenge

netwhizkid

A fella I know in Cork who works in a warehouse was getting some pretty bad practical jokes played on him by a work colleague such as using his mobile phone to ring up premium (sex chat) No's and letting it on until the credit was used up and drilling a minute hole in the car front lights a day before its NCT (Causing it to fail) (Who needs enemies with friends like that I know)

Anyway revenge was sweet for him at the Cork - Kilkenny all-Ireland when he managed to get a Viagra into a sandwich of his in Dublin resulting in the prankster having a boner all day, getting weird looks especially from women, I know I'd cringe. Photos were circulating around the workplace for ages and surprisingly the pranks have stopped.

Sam Vimes

haunted-room wrote:

Act like a child!? Right, obviously nobody has ever done something so bad it destroyed your life or your familys life then?

Bad people list!? Wtf?

bad people list as in i think they are bad people. i don't feel the need to get revenge on them because they are nothing to me. i don't care enough about them to give them a second's thought.

life is too short to be pissed off all the time. if someone wrongs you you're only damaging your own mental health by spending time thinking about it and plotting against them. just move on.

i've been prank called by someone for three years. he thinks i wronged him in some way (in was in fact him who wronged me by making up a load of crap to a girl we both liked to make her hate me).

i've changed my number but still have the old sim card sitting at home in a phone in case someone contacts me that doesn't have my new number for some reason. most days i have a few private number missed calls, three years later. that's where a revenge mentality gets you

pbsuxok1znja4r

Dragan wrote:

Can you be so certain, that to wish a return of harm upon another will always seem petty to you?

Okay, well, I think I see the point you're getting at. Or at least here's my interpretation. The pettier the act that was perpretrated against you, the pettier you are for seeking revenge over it. In your case, I think it's safe to say that the acts perpetrated against you/your loved ones were by no means "petty". They were great, terrible deeds. So I personally would not see someone in your situation as being "petty" for seeking out 'revenge'. You weren't acting purely on your own behalf. Which does make it somewhat less petty. Now in your case, I'm not entirely sure it even fully qualifies as revenge. I mean, let's say this girl with the abusive bf was say, only a mere aquaintance of yours. Or take it one step further, even; a relative stranger, perhaps? Would you still have exacted vengeance upon the bloke? Would the vengeance have been any less severe bacuase she was less close to you? Less a part of you? And would he have deserved it any less? Would you deal out the same justice indiscriminantly or only when it hurts someone you know? (Which is perfectly reasonably, as far as I see it, BTW).

Anyway in general I think it takes a great man to rise above it when great wrongs are done to him and it takes a petty man to sink to the level of revenging for petty wrongs done to him, etc. So to seek revenge does not necessarily make you petty, it just means you're not quite as big as you otherwise would've been; if you'd risen above it.

And now, the grand exception to everything I've just said: When "revenge" is really only action taken as a preventative measure. If you punish someone so that they will never do it again to anyone, then to me, that surely is not a bad thing. Technically I wouldn't even call it revenge.
But nearly anyone can take this up as their excuse, so...I dunno. It's impossible to say who's justified and who's not. So really, on second thought, I take back, in part at least, what I said in my earlier post about revenge being only for the petty.

Doomspell

I got revenge, but I regret it now. At the time there was no going back and even if I didn't do anything it would still have the same outcome. But half of me feels
'why did I bother' and the other half is saying
'they totally derserved it'.
Both sides are true but I lost more than I gained in seeking and getting my 'revenge'. If something happened where there was a way to get revenge I nearly wouldn't knowing that it could just make the matter worse.

Necronomicon

If you had the time and/or patience, you could just re-enact the movie Oldboy

madhitchhiker

i wouldn't! :mad: and i couldn't! :mad: even if i'd love to! in my dreams i've killed them a lot of times and in different ways! but in real life, i'd rather lick my fresh wound and wait for their karma to come..;)

il gatto

Do any of you really believe in karma? Bad things happen to everyone, good, bad or indifferent, and death comes to us all. Would you really believe that something bad happening someone a year or two after they wronged you was karma? I have no need, thankfully, to seek vengence, but I wouldn't hesitate to if I felt it the right thing to do. Where has this notion of "rising above" come from? People have always sought revenge. It's in our nature. You can hide from the fact or deny it, but it's there. You just haven't had it triggered sufficiently. I'm not a malicious person. I don't go around knifing people for "disrespecting me", so to speak. However, if someone takes it on themselves to hurt someone for their own gratification, why are people happy to let karma or the courts see to it? There isn't punishment enough in the world for some of the crimes people commit.
Turning the other cheek is only presenting another target. Don't delude yourselves with notions of being the bigger person. Much bigger people than you (and me) have sought vengence. To be unwilling to exact revenge, you're showing a weakness others will exploit. Doormat, anyone?

\m/_(>_<)_\m/

Dragan wrote:

Revenge is an option often ignored by the weak????

this is the one... spot on.

IMO
whatever somebody had put you through... double it,
that's your revenge... and i bet it will feel a l lot better and that feeling will last a lot longer then "moving on"

Dragan

scouser.tommy wrote:

Or take it one step further, even; a relative stranger, perhaps? Would you still have exacted vengeance upon the bloke? Would the vengeance have been any less severe bacuase she was less close to you? Less a part of you? And would he have deserved it any less? Would you deal out the same justice indiscriminantly or only when it hurts someone you know? (Which is perfectly reasonably, as far as I see it, BTW).

I have intervened when I witnessed acts of violence being comitted on people in the past, and when it's a girl on the receiving end I have to be honest and say that I do see red a little bit. Now then, while it would be nice to think that all my interventions turned into hollywood moments and everything went happy ever after this is never really the case but hey, I'm jumping in to help, I don't really think about what might happen ( one could say I am not exactly set up for survival!!! ).

But anyway, the punishment was always less than in the case of the guy kicking my friend around and I would not really consider it "vengeance" in so much as I had no prior relationship with the victim, I am just helping someone who is in difficulty. As for the attacker deserving what is coming to them, yes. Lay hands on someone , anyone, in a violent manner and you deserve whatever comes your way. Drunken boys and girls outside of Mickey D's at 3 in the morning would do well to remember that!

As for dealing out "justice" indiscriminantly….that is not my role in society. I am not trying to play the "Punisher" I can only really act when I a) feel that I am right to do so ( someone being attacked on the street) or b) driven by my emotions ( which has only ever occurred in the 3 cases stated, never over anything petty, so I am relatively happy that I am a balanced enough individual )

So all in all, I'll jump in and help anyone on the receiving end and will do what it takes to end the situation, and that will be that!

scouser.tommy wrote:

So to seek revenge does not necessarily make you petty, it just means you're not quite as big as you otherwise would've been; if you'd risen above it.

Agreed

scouser.tommy wrote:

If you punish someone so that they will never do it again to anyone, then to me, that surely is not a bad thing.

Agreed

Zillah

Proportional response is only appropriate when there is an even playing field.