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silverharp wrote: »Its a clock that looks like a bomb.
I don't think the kid bought it that way and disassembled it. I think he created it, so he's not a fraud.
Dawkins could still be right in assessing the kid's motivation though. I suspect some mischievous intent, and if so, the authorities have played right into his hands. I'm guessing he's a hero among his classmates right now, and rightly so..
silverharp wrote: »it depends on the facts , so far the ones ive heard are that the clock didnt have a battery so had to be plugged in and thats what he did in his english class and set the alarm to go off. When he was challenged he went all passive aggressive and didnt ask his engineering teacher to vouch for him and he did all this on the first school day after "9/11".
we will see I guessMichael OBrien wrote: »Add to that that his mechanical engineering teacher warned him NOT to show it to other teachers as it would alarm them. So he had to plug it in, set the alarm, and have it in a pencil case that just happened to look like a briefcase with a timer, in his English class, which served zero purpose other than to gain attention.
Plus his father is big into the idea of islamophobia in America. Add all this to it JUST happened on that particularly sensitive day and the kid went very quite when first questioned, never mentioned the ONLY teacher that would vouch for him, the engineering teacher.
However the next day he had loads of info to share, after the arrest.
I do think there is more to it than people are letting on.Michael OBrien wrote: »Saw that. Read some pages. Reactionary bull. Over the top sympathy.
There are crackpots that make huge conspiracies out of this, they are problematic but these people come out with "false flag" this or "Islamic plot" that. However that does not mean ANY deviation from the story they like is (a) racist, (b) islamophobic or (c) some kind of cyberbullying.
The kid seemed to want a reaction. He is reportedly smart, whether he made the clock or simply dismantled a store bought one and put it in a mini brief case, at least that is what I have heard, but if so, why the crappy job, why plug it in during classes that were not the engineering class, after being told not to, because it could cause alarm, why have it beep constantly enough to draw attention. Why go quite when questioned. Why not call the engineering teacher to vouch for him. Why not waive the gag on the police records.
The arrest was unfortunate but he was arrested not for making a bomb, but for making a suspicious device that might cause alarm, which he failed to explain properly. Calling it a clock does not explain why he made it, brought it in in that condition, had it beep in class that had nothing to do with the subject, etc.
Also I don't know if you saw this video, tweeted by Dawkins, but it shows how much effort it took to make this "clock". 20 seconds.
Tricking MIT & Obama, but you guys seen right through it :cool:
This is all just so utterly unbelievable, I genuinely cannot believe a sane person can entertain this stuff. I hope it sinks in that places like MIT do not think along these same lines.0 -
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The first post in A&A was made on 23rd November 2005
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054853767
A&A is nearly 10 - what's it getting for its birthday?
The forum request thread (started by Dades) is kinda funny too:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=282465
"I don't see enough scope for a forum here to justify not just continuing to discuss it on the Philosophy forum or others where it turns out to be relevant."
Hah!
Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.
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Hotblack Desiato wrote: »The forum request thread (started by Dades) is kinda funny too:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=282465
"I don't see enough scope for a forum here to justify not just continuing to discuss it on the Philosophy forum or others where it turns out to be relevant."
Hah!
Shot down by a Mustard mod, eh? Heh0 -
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Just realised now that this is in the new library, not the Pavilion Theatre
It looks very close by, though.
If we get there much before 6 we might drop into the 40 Foot for a sneaky ale
Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.
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A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer
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Hotblack Desiato wrote: »If we get there much before 6 we might drop into the 40 Foot for a sneaky ale
Operation Sneaky Ale under way
Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.
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*sad face*.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C3ynKaferg
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