Campus & Halls accomodation thread

Lord Oz

I'll be starting in trinity this year and I'll probably end up staying in trinity halls. I'm wondering about the internet access, is NNTP/newsgroups blocked?

Budo.Judo.Kev

join the internet society (netsoc) and you'll certainly have access.

dermot_sheehan

From remembering from my time in college 2 years ago, external nntp access was blocked (since all outbound requests must go through a http proxy), there is however the local college news.tcd.ie (or nntp.tcd.ie i forget which) server which is accessible.

If you join netsoc, you have access to their server matrix which is exempt from the firewall. You can setup an ssh tunnel on port 119 from your computer to matrix and tunnel out that way if you need to desperatly access a usenet server on the outside (for you know, downloading garbled text that may or may not be a split archive of a pirated intellectual property work). Tunnelling vast quanities of data this way will put a signifigant load on the netsoc computer and could lead them asking wtf?

cianclarke

I'm hopefully in the same boat next year. I have to admit that what gabhain just said makes very little sense but hey, hehe.. Tunneling to the netsoc computer, would this just mean an internet connection like any normal computer > broadband cable type setup?
What about simple things like FTP, etc? MSN, Skype?
Could somebody with a bit of know do a brief outline of what is and isn't available through the net if they get the chance.
Danke

Crash

netsoc will go spastic if you set up a tunnel through them. ISS would also be annoyed with netsoc. do not do it that way.

external NNTP traffic is doable, with a whole load of rigmarole. but ISS don't like you doing that either. though someone did say they'd look into opening ports etc.

FTP: can rarely get it working. the ftp proxy doesnt like me.

MSN: works using the http proxy.

Skype: apparently works - never tried.

cianclarke

No FTP? I'm f*cked so. :-(

There is ftp

I used to run a couple of websites last year

You have to use the ftp-proxy, go to isservices.tcd.ie and search for it

It wasy enough, none of my FTP clients worked though, had to use the old DOS one!

Lord Oz

How are they on games?

xeduCat

Whatever FTP client you use, it has to support the user after login method of proxy authentication. Fetch works on a Mac, but you have to do the settings within the app (i.e. the general System Preferences setting for ftp proxy won't work). Presume there's something similar for ye olde PC...

Budo.Judo.Kev

You're not allowed to play games on any college computers but if there are enough ppl in halls with their own pcs and own lan they play.

Nietzschean

your actually technically breaking college rules by doing that also, it is prohibited to use the college network to play any games, so that includes the one in halls, though wheither they'll care or do anything when yer out in halls is a whole different question...

bambamconscious

Hi people I joined this froum just to get an answer to this question, so would apreciate any help you could give me, I have applied as a 1st year for trinity halls accommodation, can you tell me when I will find out if I got in?
Thank you

You will get a letter from the accomodation office.

Give them a while! The results are only just out!

Agent Smith

where in the country are you from?

bambamconscious

Cill Ceannaigh.

cianclarke

I've also applied - you find out August 30th, its on the site. That said, it wasn't *very* easy to find, as always with the TCD website...

Crash

TCD website ftw. its like an exam in obtuse thought process every time you go online.

Zoodlebop

I've applied for Cunningham House. Sounds like a more fun and vibrant place to be, especially for 1st year. I hope I don't regret it.

cianclarke

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TCD website ftw. its like an exam in obtuse though process every time you go online.

And the most ironic thing is the CS department is the worst of all, dead links a-gogo...

Nietzschean

yeah i love that about the cs website,its somehow so ironic...

I've applied for Cunningham House. Sounds like a more fun and vibrant place to be, especially for 1st year. I hope I don't regret it.

It's fab, just don't expect 5 star luxury I advise making some friends in the modern apartments for when you want to watch something decent on telly or use the internet

London2005

Do the modern flats have internet in each bedroom? what about cunningham house? Btw are they close by?

all modern flats have access points in each bedroom, cunningham has no internet.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=dublin,+ireland&ie=UTF8&z=17&ll=53.311839,-6.261799&spn=0.002859,0.010729&t=k&om=1

The builidings circled in red are the modern flats, the building circled in yellow is Cunningham house. The link to the map is above..

Hope that helps!

cianclarke

Halls lists are up, I got in

Haven't told me which type yet though, hopefully modern single.

You could have put up the list!

http://www.wardentrinityhall.tcdlife.ie/rooms/room_allocations.php

Zoodlebop

those are CAO numbers right? I was scared ****less as i searched the text for my no. and it wasn't there, but then I found it manually......phew!

cianclarke

CAO, yeah...
I think the CAO number becomes your student number, does it?

06xxxxxx student numbers!

I feel so old!

Thats a new way of presenting them - they used to say which room you got

Nietzschean

what i've an 06xxxxx student number...

cianclarke

A few questions regarding halls, since there was no info about it in the orientation pack, and I can't find any online:
1: What is provided and what do we need to bring?
Are there pots / pans, etc? I'm presuming not!
Bed linen - just a bare matress I'm guessing?

2: How to people organise cooking? Do people in the one apartment all tip in and buy a weeks shopping, and to a rota for cooking or do people just cook themselves? If the latter, how do people manage with just the one four ring hob!?

3: Anything I need to bring I mightn't suspect? How are people's food seperated in the fridge - just container type things? Same with cooking utensils, food stuff etc?

4: I see in the residents handbook they mention that all practice of musical instruments must be done in the music room thingy. I play acoustic guitar, no amp, none of that. You'd probably struggle to hear it in the next room. I have no intention of playing at four in the morning. Will they nitpick?

5: How secure is the carpark, has there been a history of break ins does anybody know?

I'm sure people will have more to add to the list, as will I. Answers would be much appreciated from past residents!

A few questions regarding halls, since there was no info about it in the orientation pack, and I can't find any online:
1: What is provided and what do we need to bring?
Are there pots / pans, etc? I'm presuming not!
Bed linen - just a bare matress I'm guessing?

You have to bring everything that isn't furniture/appliances. There's a microwave, kettle and toaster. No pots and pans, cutlery or anything, no bed linen.

2: How to people organise cooking? Do people in the one apartment all tip in and buy a weeks shopping, and to a rota for cooking or do people just cook themselves? If the latter, how do people manage with just the one four ring hob!?

If you're friendly with your flatmates you might cook together but no-one I knew did. We all bought separately and cooked separately. I never had any problems with the cooker, I often cooked alone, or had to share with one other person. I never had to wait.

3: Anything I need to bring I mightn't suspect? How are people's food seperated in the fridge - just container type things? Same with cooking utensils, food stuff etc?

It depends what you consider as essential. I brought an iron but most people don't bother, there aren't any ironing boards. You'll need to bring whatever you cook with and eat out of, and things like bin bags, pan scrubbers, tea towels and cleaning materials. In my flat we had a shelf for each person I think, which is the easiest way. When I lived in Cunningham people wrote their names on their milk so it didn't get nicked. We put all our pots, pans, and cutlery into the same drawers and cupboards and used them all. Each person had a whole cupboard for their food.

4: I see in the residents handbook they mention that all practice of musical instruments must be done in the music room thingy. I play acoustic guitar, no amp, none of that. You'd probably struggle to hear it in the next room. I have no intention of playing at four in the morning. Will they nitpick?

I wouldn't say you'd have a problem with the acoustic guitar, but bear in mind the walls are paper thin, and your next door person probably will hear it, so might be a good idea to ask if they minded out of consideration. Should be alright. If someone complains, the worst that will happen is you'll be told to play it in the music room anyway.

5: How secure is the carpark, has there been a history of break ins does anybody know?

As far as I know it's fine, there's 24/7 security right next to it.

littlehedgehog

Wow, many questions.
Ok.
1. International students get box of stuff to use I think - cutlery and such - but Irish students don't. And yes, bare mattress. You'll have a kettle, a toaster, a microwave, a plate drainer thingy, bins in the kitchen, bedroom and bathroom *thinks* chair.. lamp.. I think that's about it?
2. I've never heard of everyone in an apartment doing communal shopping - everyone's tastes would be too different I think - last year my flat had a rota for milk, bread, bin bags and cleaning products for the kitchen but that was about it. Not everyone was home from college at the same time, so we tended to cook at different times. It was never really a problem with space on the cooker - no one was spending a huge amount of time cooking gourmet meals!
3. Fridge wise, there are.. four shelves and then a few little ones on the door, and two box things.. Whatever way you and your roommates want to divide it up is up to ye - we'd a shelf or a box each. Space in the freezer is a problem because there are only three shelves.. just in case you were planning on keeping a few frozen chickens in there. Or a body. Just sayin'.
4. Musical instruments.. hm. Haven't heard of anyone getting in trouble.. just don't be stupid. I most definitely would hear people playing guitar on quiet days - the walls aren't exactly soundproof. Just be careful. But I didn’t say that. I told you that you should only practice in the room.. Actually, scratch that – one apartment of lads did get in trouble for playing guitar because they kept doing it lateish at night.. make up your own mind I guess!
5. There are two big gates that shut at like 12.30. And security is on all night - they're at reception which overlooks the carpark. So it's pretty secure.

As for stuff you’ll need to bring that you wouldn’t suspect.. or you might suspect – I don’t know you so.. er..
Hangers
Cleaning products.. or just bleach..
Tee towels. You can NEVER have enough tee towels
Cheese grater.. but I grate cheese onto everything so..
Colander
Bottle opener
Some food – you won’t want to go shopping when all the stuff for freshers’ weekend is on – oh, and get all the kinda expensive things like.. coffee, good vitamin tablets, soft toilet roll etc.. so you don’t have to buy them yourself for a while.
A couple of cushions – they’re not called contraception couches for nothing – they’re bloody uncomfortable and you need some padding.
A sleeping bag. If you don’t use it, I can assure you, many other people will.

*thinks* I’m kinda tired, so this isn’t as long as it could be. I’m sure there are many veterans who could give much better advice. This is just my 2 cents.

xebec

Jean wrote:

International students get box of stuff to use I think - cutlery and such - but Irish students don't.

That's a new one on me! I lived in Halls for two years and none of the many international students I knew got this! So don't rely on it.

littlehedgehog

Really?
I'm working here for the summer, and we've been told we have to make up boxes of stuff for international students, and I most definitely remember at the start of last year there was something to do with International students getting stuff, or something?! I'm not sure what's in them, but I'm under the impression it's cutlery and pots and pans and things?

xebec

Maybe it's new, I wasn't there last year and wasn't aware of it before, my girlfriend was international student and I wasn't aware she got anything.

It's a great idea though, that's some of the most expensive stuff to carry/buy. Halls are doing something good for students!

littlehedgehog

Maybe it did only come in last year - let's just wait and see if anyone backs me or you up!
*grins*

xebec

No competition, I could be wrong, glad that there is something for international students though;)

Hi, see here, or 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. Or here!

europerson

cianclarke wrote:

1: What is provided and what do we need to bring?
Are there pots / pans, etc? I'm presuming not!
Bed linen - just a bare matress I'm guessing?

You need to bring all the crockery, cutlery, utensils, pots, pans, etc. you think you'll need.

2: How to people organise cooking? Do people in the one apartment all tip in and buy a weeks shopping, and to a rota for cooking or do people just cook themselves? If the latter, how do people manage with just the one four ring hob!?

Most people cook all their own food separately, buy their own milk, own food, own everything. It's the best system by far. Only girls who get on very well do the whole communal thing.

3: Anything I need to bring I mightn't suspect? How are people's food seperated in the fridge - just container type things? Same with cooking utensils, food stuff etc?

All I can say is that you won't think of everything! People usually have their own shelves, drawers, cupboards, etc.

4: I see in the residents handbook they mention that all practice of musical instruments must be done in the music room thingy. I play acoustic guitar, no amp, none of that. You'd probably struggle to hear it in the next room. I have no intention of playing at four in the morning. Will they nitpick?

I shouldn't think so, as long as your flat-mates don't have a problem with it.

5: How secure is the carpark, has there been a history of break ins does anybody know?

There's no issue there whatsoever. There's 24-hour security on site. After midnight, the vehicular access gates are locked and one can only get in if one has a swipe-card or a fetish for climbing.

Shadowlands

No-one I knew cooked with their flatmates unless it was a) a special ocaison and b) they got on really well. You never have to wait for the cooker. You'll invariably have one flatmate who spends all their money on eating out and every cooks at different times anyway. Halls is very safe, I knew a girl with a car you'd have no problems but beware of all the hopefuls that will want you to take them to tesco/dunnes!

I would bring lots of underwear (to prolong the laundry situation), 2 pots, 1 pan, a sharp knife (for cutting beggies and meat - everyone always forgets that, me included), vegetable peeler, coriander, bed linens, posters/photos/postcards so your room looks like someone actually lives in it, cushions for the horrible couches, a TV (put it in your sitting room, even if you put it in your room you'll never watch it + your flatmates will love you), alcohol, and that's all I can think of right now.

xeduCat

The stuff that international students get isn't free!

http://www.tcd.ie//accommodationandcatering/PDF/pack.pdf

Anyone can ask for it, though if you're familiar with Dublin, there is probably not much point...

kazbegi

Hi - been lurking for a few days reading up on Trinity but as of 3 minutes ago I'm a reformed citizen with a proper registration..

Just got my formal offer of a tensi room in Hall in the post this morning with the conditions of occupancy and all that jazz.. anyone else got theirs?

Can anyone tell me if the .01. in the middle of the room number means I'm on the ground floor?

Cheers

europerson

kazbegi wrote:

Can anyone tell me if the .01. in the middle of the room number means I'm on the ground floor?

It depends on what number is before that. The xx.01.xx gives your apartment number. The first x's are your house number, and the last x's are your room number.

I don't remember too well but I think 01 is always the first apartment in the building, which would normally be on the ground floor. Last time I was in 06, which was the last apartment on the first floor, so I think you're on the ground floor. However some houses (I think House 80 and probably others) have no apartments on the ground floor, which means that 01 in that case would be on the first floor.

kazbegi

Thanks for the help. Can someone tell me if there's a map of the Trinity Hall site online anywhere that shows where the different houses are in relation to each other?

Another thing - how do people generally get in and out from College each day, bus / bike / luas? Any info on monthly tickets or student fares or whatever appreciated.. apologies if this has already been discussed in a different thread, searched for a while but couldn't find anything.

littlehedgehog

God, I'm good.
And er.. it's not to scale. 81 actually has the most apartments, but a lot of them are above reception and the canteen.. and.. I managed to run out of space at the top, so the parking has been halved in size.
But it'll give you a general gist.
Luas last year was 36 for 30 days, or 60 for Luas and Bus combi, I think? I can't exactly remember..

xebec

Impressive piece of work Jean! Very accurate!

littlehedgehog

Flattery will get you everywhere, ya know?
*blushes*
Sometimes I wonder why I didn't go to NCAD..

kazbegi

God you're good! Lol

Thanks jean

Got this from google maps:

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cianclarke

Thanks for all the replies everybody - a great help. Also managed to pick up on a few bits 'n' bobs I would have forgotten otherwise.

mizz.yelof!!!

wow jean, glad to see that u working in halls for the summer got u somewhere!!! really should be in ncad!