The Hazards of Belief

Zillah

Soccer player drowns while being cleansed of evil spirits by swimming in crocodile infested river.

condra

..about 16 players from second division side Midland Portland Cement were told to swim in the Zambezi river in the resort town of Victoria Falls ahead of a soccer match on Sunday.

LOL

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7718587.stm

Israeli police have had to restore order at one of Christianity's holiest sites after a brawl broke out between monks in Jerusalem's Old City.

Fighting erupted between Greek Orthodox and Armenian monks at the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, the traditional site of Christ's crucifixion.

Two monks from each side were detained as dozens of worshippers traded kicks and punches at the shrine, said police.

Not sure whether this is the best spot for this.

robindch

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Two monks from each side were detained as dozens of worshippers traded kicks and punches at the shrine, said police.

Not sure whether this is the best spot for this.

Hmmm... Sky Sports?

This scrapping seems to happen quite regularly. Which is why, if memory serves, the keys to the Holy Sepulchre are held by a Muslim -- the christians couldn't agree amongst themselves on who should hold it. Allah must have cracked up when that happened.

CerebralCortex

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7722701.stm

condra

oh man. :mad: that's so saddening and infuriating.

Dades

"They are holding this region with the barrel of the gun, and it has nothing to do with Islam," the Hiiran political activist said.

This probably a lot of truth in this statement.

Galvasean

Spotted this in AH, seriously messed up...

http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/dispatches/saving+africas+witch+children/2780062

midlandsmissus

You shouldn't ever test God

robindch

midlandsmissus wrote: »

You shouldn't ever test God

Nope. We're testing what people say about god.

midlandsmissus

robindch wrote: »

Nope. We're testing what people say about god.

Robindch. Are you testing what christians from birth are saying about God? What about people like me, who didnt believe in God for most of my life, questioned and tested everything people said, and now am happy being a Christian. I have already questioned everything and tested what people said myself. I find the fact that you are event hinking about christianity, shows you might be on your way yourself!

robindch

midlandsmissus wrote: »

Are you testing what christians from birth are saying about God?

No, we're testing what any christians say about their belief system -- what they say about god, the future, the past, biology, physics and all the rest of it. The whole shootin' match.

Much of it is untestable. A lot of the unaviodably testable that remains, has been tested and has been found to be wrong. And most of the stories, and almost all of the philosophy, existed in other religions in other places, before christianity showed up to claim them.

In short, it's unoriginal where it's not demonstrably false. Frequently strikingly so.

Eightball

Faith is a very personal thing and what is a leap of faith for some, sounds quite coincidental to the rest of us. For that person at that time there were no guarantees and little logical except for a strong belief that, that is the way to go.
As to the man who got killed, did Jesus not say when tempted by the Devil not to test the Lord your God.

condra

Eightball wrote: »

As to the man who got killed, did Jesus not say when tempted by the Devil not to test the Lord your God.

I suggest you take your theological ponderings to a new thread.

What is written in your ancient holy book is irrelevant to this thread. This thread is about how superstitious beliefs, such as religion, can be detrimental to human life.

No atheist would ever swim in rapids, play with lions, refuse a blood transfusion, stone a young girl to death, or bomb a hotel.

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womoma wrote: »

No atheist would ever swim in rapids, play with lions, refuse a blood transfusion, stone a young girl to death, or bomb a hotel.

I don't know about that!

Eightball

So this is a thread for all those who do not want their disbelief of a higher being to be challenged. Where everyone can feel secure in their disbelief. That's nice! And I had thought the original message was about a misguided man who got himself killed through a misinterpretation of faith. I had only tried to show where he had gone wrong in his reasoning. Instead I should have been laughing at this like I'm expected to!!!

Dades

Eightball wrote: »

And I had thought the original message was about a misguided man who got himself killed through a misinterpretation of faith. I had only tried to show where he had gone wrong in his reasoning. Instead I should have been laughing at this like I'm expected to!!!

We all know where he went wrong, despite the fact that post was over 2 years ago.

Eightball wrote: »

So this is a thread for all those who do not want their disbelief of a higher being to be challenged.

This is a thread about the daft and dangerous things people do in the name of religion. A sort of Darwin Awards for the theistically challenged, as it were.

If you wish to challenge disbelief there's a "New Thread" button on the main page of this forum! You will have no shortage of respondents.

pH

Gifted pupil killed himself 'after his school sidelined Christianity for alternative religions'

A gifted teenager killed himself with an overdose of painkillers after his comprehensive school sidelined Christianity in favour of 'alternative religions', an inquest heard today.

Tragic Harry Tucker, 15, read the Bible at home because he believed his religious studies teachers focused on the teaching of Islam and Sikhism.

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(yes I know it probably should be in a thread called "The pathetic side of Journalism", but we don't have one of those)

Mena

pH wrote: »

Gifted pupil killed himself 'after his school sidelined Christianity for alternative religions'

A gifted teenager killed himself with an overdose of painkillers after his comprehensive school sidelined Christianity in favour of 'alternative religions', an inquest heard today.

Tragic Harry Tucker, 15, read the Bible at home because he believed his religious studies teachers focused on the teaching of Islam and Sikhism.

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(yes I know it probably should be in a thread called "The pathetic side of Journalism", but we don't have one of those)

Not "that" gifted then quite frankly..,

Dades

Sadly ironic to kill himself for being deprived of Christianity, given that he was probably gay.

That story (and reporting) is tragic in general.

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Sad, yes. But how mind-f*cked would he already have to be by his parents to kill him self over Christianity?

That tabloids do have it in for Islam (and dem foreigners with their foreign ways!).

spacecoyote

:eek:

DID YOU KNOW THESE FACTS?
I SURE DIDNT TILL NOW
Death is certain but the Bible speaks about untimely death!
Make a personal reflection about this.....

It is written in the Bible (Galatians 6:7):
'Be not deceived; God is not mocked:
for whatsoever a man sow,

that shall he also reap.
Here are some men and women
who mocked God :
John Lennon (Singer):
Some years before, during his interview with an American Magazine, he
said:
'Christianity will end, it will disappear.
I do not have to argue about
that. I am certain.
Jesus was ok, but his subjects were too simple, today we are more famous
than Him' (1966).
Lennon, after saying that the Beatles were more famous than Jesus
Christ, was shot six times.
Tancredo Neves (President of Brazil ):
During the Presidential campaign, he said if he got 500,000 votes from
his party, not even God would remove him from Presidency.
Sure he got the votes, but he got sick a day before being made
President, then he died.
Cazuza (Bi-sexual Brazilian composer, singer and poet):
During A show in Canecio ( Rio de Janeiro),
while smoking his cigarette, he puffed out some smoke into the air and
said:'God, that's for you.'
He died at the age of 32 of LUNG CANCER in a horrible manner.
The man who built the Titanic
After the construction of Titanic, a reporter asked him how safe the
Titanic would be.
With an ironic tone he said:
'Not even God can sink it'
The result: I think you all know what happened to the Titanic
Marilyn Monroe (Actress)
She was visited by Billy Graham during a presentation of a show.
He said the Spirit of God had sent him to preach to her.
After hearing what the Preacher had to say, she said:
'I don't need your Jesus'.
A week later, she was found dead in her apartment
Bon Scott (Singer)
The ex-vocalist of the AC/DC. On one of his 1979 songs he sang:
'Don't stop me; I'm going down all the way, down the highway to hell'.

On the 19th of February 1980, Bon Scott was found dead, he had been
choked by his own vomit.
Campinas (IN 2005)
In Campinas , Brazil a group of friends, drunk, went to pick up a
friend.....
The mother accompanied her to the car and was so worried about the
drunkenness of her friends and she said to the daughter holding her
hand, who was already seated in the car:
'My Daughter, Go With God And May He Protect You.'
She responded: 'Only If He (God) Travels In The Trunk, Cause Inside
Here.....It's Already Full '
Hours later, news came by that they had been involved in a fatal
accident, everyone had died,
the car could not be recognized what type of car it had been, but
surprisingly, the trunk was intact.
The police said there was no way the trunk could have remained intact.
To their surprise, inside the trunk was a crate of eggs, none was broken

Christine Hewitt (Jamaican Journalist and entertainer) said the Bible
(Word of God) was the worst book ever written.
In June 2006 she was found burnt beyond recognition in her motor
vehicle.
Many more important people have forgotten that there is no other name
that was given so much authority as the name of Jesus.
Many have died, but only Jesus died and rose again, and he is still
alive.
'Jesus'
PS: If it was a joke, you would have sent it to everyone. So are you
going to have courage to send this?.
I have done my part, Jesus said
'If you are embarrassed about me,
I will also be embarrassed about you before my father.'
You are my 8 in 8 seconds. I am not breaking this. No way!
I'M TOLD THIS WORKS!!!!! Bishop T.D. Jakes '8 Second Prayer.' Just
repeat this prayer and see how God moves!!
'Lord, I love you and I need you, come into my heart, and bless me, my
family, my home, and my friends, in Jesus' name. Amen.'

Sweet zombie jesus!!!

Mena

What type of car was it? I'm always putting eggs in the boot and finding them broken, this could really get me out of a weekly spot with the wife.

Gordon

Sounds like scare-mongering to me, terrorism almost - if you mock God he will kill you. I wouldn't be happy getting such mail in my inbox.

robindch

spacecoyote wrote: »

Here are some men and women who mocked God

Stand back everybody...

God's a sissy!!!

--amadeus--

It is pretty uncanny though.

Of the millions of people around teh globe who have some degree of fame some of them both said nasty things about god AND died young.

Wooo, spooky.

Hellm0

Wow, this chain mail has really opened my eyes! No more shall I slander the lord, because in EVERY one of those cases it was almighty GOD who killed those people. REPENT SINNERS!

Mark Hamill

The Hazards of Belief thread.

The Mad Hatter

tl;dr.

People are hardly going to badmouth God after they get killed.

Ice_Box

If God is a murderer then we should jail all those who worship Him.