RTE's new radio schedule

Elmo

Dave Fanning moving to Radio One, in a new 7pm slot.

http://www.rte.ie/radio1/pressreleases/1093516.html

DMC

Wow. Didn't see that coming. Or John Creedon going after midnight either. Or Derek Mooney getting a daytime show.

Pity Damien Farrelly, he's built up a good audience for himself between 12-2.

And still they can't bring themselves to move Gerry Ryan. I wish, fervently, that Newstalk would get Gerry Ryan, and let 2FM reinvent itself. With Gerry Ryan there, its just shuffling the deckchairs on the Titanic.

byte

Bah, changes aren't good enough.

Gerry "Me, my family and Clontarf" Ryan, Marty "past it" Whelan and Ruth "words cannot describe how much I hate her voice" Scott are still there. :mad:

Surprised Dave Fanning is moving. I guess I'm really stuck with Today FM now, except for when/if I can get Newstalk....

As for Newstalk and G Ryan, I'd hope they'd have more sense than to try getting him onboard. Maybe RTE should move him to night time on 2fm, or R1

brettmirl

The only thing that the 'new' schedule has going for it is a bit more regularity.

The half hour hour shows here and there (daytime) seem to have been swept aside for shows that actually start on the hour.

Mooney on weekdays should do well in my opinion...providing RTE don't do their usual trick with 'stars' and over-expose them.

mike65

A late night arts strand is a good idea but only if its done well otherwise 60 mins will be purgatory. ie it has to be better than Rattlebag and Myles (D4 smug) Dungan.

Holy Crap! Larry Gogan's still got a slot!

Mike.

homah_7ft

Vincent Browne only an hour still . At least he is still on at a good time.

DublinWriter

Sack the feckin' lot like BBC Radio 1 did in their infamous purge.

I can't think of a single *general programme* presenter I'd like to stay on RTE Radios 1 and 2, although as much as it pains me to say it, Tubridy is ok, and I have a soft spot for John Creedon.

However...

Get Vincent Browne a daytime slot!
Bring back David Hanley!
Marianne back on Liveline!
Move Mystery Train to an earlier slot!
Zig and Zag back in the mornings!
Get rid of *all* 5-7 live's horribly dated jingles

and most importantly, death to Gerry Ryan, the middle-aged bejowled overpaid gimp RTE still thinks is "the voice of Ireland's youth".

kc66

Now that Dave Fanning has moved I can remove 2fm from my radio presets.

DMC

mike65 wrote:

A late night arts strand is a good idea but only if its done well otherwise 60 mins will be purgatory. ie it has to be better than Rattlebag and Myles (D4 smug) Dungan.

I'd hardly call Kells-living Cavanman Dungan a D4 man, but he's been on the campus quite a while, and if the arts are within an asses roar of Donnybrook, they are covered.

mike65 wrote:

Holy Crap! Larry Gogan's still got a slot!

And long may he continue. As long as his voice stands up and he wants to, Larry should stay on. He's still an audience winner. Only to look at him, would you think he's an pensioner.

DublinWriter wrote:

Get Vincent Browne a daytime slot!

Won't happen. He'd alienate too much of the daytime listenership. He's on at the right time.

DublinWriter wrote:

Bring back David Hanley!

Still ill, and almost certainly won't ever be back.

DublinWriter wrote:

Marianne back on Liveline!

Its one of those programmes that, while worthy, I can't bear myself to listen to. It boils my blood in ways that cannot be described.

DublinWriter wrote:

Move Mystery Train to an earlier slot!

John Kelly is leaving that programme, Dave Fanning is taking that slot and moving it back to 7pm.

DublinWriter wrote:

Zig and Zag back in the mornings!

No arguement there!

DublinWriter wrote:

Get rid of *all* 5-7 live's horribly dated jingles

That will happen with the new Drivetime show.

And I don't wish ill on Gerry Ryan, just get him off 2FM. Then, and only then, can 2FM get moving again.

radioman

Now that Dave Fanning has moved I can remove 2fm from my radio presets

Likewise. John Clarke is an complete idiot... the only half-saving thing about 2fm other than Fanning was Rick O Shea's night time show, and now he's been replaced by housewives favourite and general thicko Farrelly.

Anybody know if Dan Hegarty is keeping his midnight show?

iplogger1

I had to smile when I turned on Prattlebag this afternoon.
M Dungan was playing "always look on the bright side of life"
by Monty Python et al.

It turned out it was a last Friday of the month programme where
he invites in a "curator" for choice of music/content so
it was more ironic than sour grapes by Dungan on his
show being dropped from RTE1 I guess...

I've always found the show to be slightly up its own rear end (but that
is a very personal opinion). Mind you I would be ambivalent about
M Dungan - a few times he has had interesting content on and
I can rise above my prejudices about my slight dislike of his
persona/presentation style.

Elmo

I always liked RTE's arts show, however I liked it better when Mike Murphy did the show.

FlutterinBantam

Good God!!! Now we have to listen to Mooney's horrible Dublin accent even more....Doobblew Doobblew Doobblew...I'd swear he pronounces it like that specially to annoy me.........Yeeeeech

mike65

Without going Off topic Dungan does my head in cos of his obvious political bias. I'd love it if one day he invited some artist from the States who after he plugged his film/book/scultpur about the oppressed suddenly declared he thought George Bush was a great leader! I've lost times of the number of times he has had got some 'liberal' on and then led him/her along a certain line of discussion which mainly involves giving the right/Bush a good artsy kicking.

Mind you this is an RTE problem rather than just Dungan.

Mike.

Elmo

Mind you this is an RTE problem rather than just Dungan.

Well you know ur self if their one guy who can lead the world its The Bush :rolleyes:

DublinWriter

Elmo wrote:

I always liked RTE's arts show, however I liked it better when Mike Murphy did the show.

I could never take him seriously doing that show, still too many bad memories of Murphy's Micro Jizzum, sorry, Quiz-M and him harrassing Gaybo pretending to be a French tourist.

mike65

Elmo I'm not a Bush fan, but thats not the issue I'm more concerned about balance being part of the National Broacasters job description.

Mike.

seabee

Really looking forward to rick o'shea new show. Very surprised by the decision to move damien farrelly to nighttime....I'm sure today fm is delighted...Ray Foley might get 30 listeners now

J.R.HARTLEY

iplogger1 wrote:

I had to smile when I turned on Prattlebag this afternoon.
M Dungan was playing "always look on the bright side of life"
by Monty Python et al.

It turned out it was a last Friday of the month programme where
he invites in a "curator" for choice of music/content so
it was more ironic than sour grapes by Dungan on his
show being dropped from RTE1 I guess...

I've always found the show to be slightly up its own rear end (but that
is a very personal opinion). Mind you I would be ambivalent about
M Dungan - a few times he has had interesting content on and
I can rise above my prejudices about my slight dislike of his
persona/presentation style.

i'd completely agree with you there, i actually made a complaint about rattlebag to the BCI last december when i heard the F word used with regularity on two seperate programs in poems, i complained on the basis that it was unneccessary and also at 3.00 it would be a time when most mothers are picking up their children from school etc, Rattlebags producers respone was schooolkids don't tune in to rattlebag, total cop out, the actual challenge that they got a copy of stated most kids are subject to whatever mammy is listening to, and most mothers will be listening to liveline and not bother to switch when rattlebag comes on, secondly they stated one of the poems was from a traveller and they didn't ask him to censor it because they felt swearing was his culture, what a load of balls, i know the actual traveller cause i used to work in a pub that he drank in near enough to a halting site, and he wasn't any more of a curser than an average person, if told not to read that particualr poem he wouldn't have.
so basically they were completely un appologetic about turning the airwaves blue at 3.00pm, well here's one for you rattlebag, free of charge, i'm FU(KIN delighted you were cancelled

Elmo

Elmo I'm not a Bush fan, but thats not the issue I'm more concerned about balance being part of the National Broacasters job description.

Bush is an easy target, have you seen the non-bias american national broadcasters?


But I agree you RTE shouldn't be Bias.

wasn't any more of a curser than an average person

Why do we feel the need to censor bad lanuage on Irish Radio and TV? While I think it is not necessary to curse if someone feels the need to place it in a poem (I have read many poems with bad lanuage in them) then there is no reason to censor it when read aloud, perhaps the publishers of the poem should also delete the word in the same way as we ****ing do on boards.

What was the poem about?

If the poem was unoffensive, other then the f word, then I have no objection to the f word being used. I hate the fact that I can say bolix and not ****/****/**** on boards.

However it is the policy of all broadcaster to delete bad language from popular song lyric, which really bugs me. Rather if your going to censor something listen to what been said and have a reason for the censorship. Not just because kids will hear the F word. For **** Sake most Irish Kids use the word all the ****ing time.

Sorry completely off Topic.

radioman

J.R.HARTLEY wrote:

i'd completely agree with you there, i actually made a complaint about rattlebag to the BCI last december when i heard the F word used with regularity on two seperate programs in poems, i complained on the basis that it was unneccessary and also at 3.00 it would be a time when most mothers are picking up their children from school etc, Rattlebags producers respone was schooolkids don't tune in to rattlebag, total cop out, the actual challenge that they got a copy of stated most kids are subject to whatever mammy is listening to, and most mothers will be listening to liveline and not bother to switch when rattlebag comes on, secondly they stated one of the poems was from a traveller and they didn't ask him to censor it because they felt swearing was his culture, what a load of balls, i know the actual traveller cause i used to work in a pub that he drank in near enough to a halting site, and he wasn't any more of a curser than an average person, if told not to read that particualr poem he wouldn't have.
so basically they were completely un appologetic about turning the airwaves blue at 3.00pm, well here's one for you rattlebag, free of charge, i'm FU(KIN delighted you were cancelled

There are still people in this country who get all hot and bothered when somebody uses the F word on radio???? :eek:

I welcome the use of any language on the radio at any time, for it's the language we all use. Remember there is, sensibly, no watershed on radio.

J.R.HARTLEY

radioman wrote:

There are still people in this country who get all hot and bothered when somebody uses the F word on radio???? :eek:

I welcome the use of any language on the radio at any time, for it's the language we all use. Remember there is, sensibly, no watershed on radio.

the use of bad language on radio is not advised, and is frowned upon under BCI guidelines of vulgarity, even the most avid curse fan would have to admit that filling the airwaves ,(between the two shows it was used over ten times, and was only the worst of the language, i didn't bother mentioning the liberal use of SH!t either) is not the best policy at 3pm.
My problem wasn't that they used the word but rather repeated it again and again, to a point where it was cursing for cursings sake, but what ticked me off was that instead of saying, yeah maybe it wasn't the best we should probaly try and make sure it doesn't happen so frequently again, they came back justifying it for arts sake. one word.... Standards.

DublinWriter

radioman wrote:

There are still people in this country who get all hot and bothered when somebody uses the F word on radio???? :eek:

Yeah, well wait till you have kids and you are taking them on the school run.

Ray777

DublinWriter wrote:

Yeah, well wait till you have kids and you are taking them on the school run.

Tbh, they'll hear far more bad language in the school playground than the occasional 'fuck' on the radio.

DublinWriter

Ray777 wrote:

Tbh, they'll hear far more bad language in the school playground than the occasional 'fuck' on the radio.

True, but we should expect a certain level of standards from our National Broadcaster.

Mossy Monk

where is Mary Whitehouse. raise her from the dead. society is falling apart!!!!

DublinWriter

Mossy Monk wrote:

society is falling apart!!!!

Yes it fucking is!

tSubh Dearg

Can we keep this on topic please folks.

sudzs

John Creedon booted into the middle of the night... why oh why???

And what the hell is Derek Mooney doing so right? Or maybe that should be who is he doing?!

I cant abide his stupid bloody adolescent tone... what a prat and now he's on every bloody day. :mad: :mad: :mad:

zippo22

DMC wrote:

Its one of those programmes that, while worthy, I can't bear myself to listen to. It boils my blood in ways that cannot be described. ........

The very sound of that Finucane woman makes my blood boil. I think Vincent Browne is on at the right time. I just wish he would scrap the music and the time wasting talking to the bloody sports reporter at the start of the programme.

dixiefly

I listen fairly regularly to Late Date. Lilian Smith is reasonable good, if not a bit repetitive with too much "Francis Albert" etc. however Val Joyce is nothing short of a disaster. I reckon that there is hardly a night that goes by that he does not make a mistake regarding the equipment. Also his voice is much lower than the music and if you have the music at normal in the room you cannot hear what Val is saying. well past retirement age imho.

Dudess

There's already a thread on this on the Radio forum. I think it's of general interest, though. Hope that's ok, mods. RTE has announced its new radio schedule for autumn.
http://www.rte.ie/radio1/pressreleases/1093516.html
Disgusted. No more Mystery Train or Rattlebag. Two of the best things on Radio 1. Why oh why do we have to pay a licence fee (on top of all the advertising they get) when we have no say in what's on offer?

Charm Offensive

The Mystery Train was the most contrived pile of shíte I've ever heard in my life. I think we can all do without John Kelly trying so very painfully hard to appear edgy, artistic and avant garde on our airwaves.

connundrum

licence fee... pfffft :rolleyes:

easy_as_easy

19.00 - 20.00 - Drivetime Express with Dave Fanning

why do they think that drivetime is a clever name for a radio program?? rte suck eggs.

glad see Dave off 2fm and doing hopefully his own thing. 2fm makes me sick everytime I hear it

easy_as_easy

Dudess wrote:

There's already a thread on this on the Radio forum. I think it's of general interest, though. Hope that's ok, mods. RTE has announced its new radio schedule for autumn.
http://www.rte.ie/radio1/pressreleases/1093516.html
Disgusted. No more Mystery Train or Rattlebag. Two of the best things on Radio 1. Why oh why do we have to pay a licence fee (on top of all the advertising they get) when we have no say in what's on offer?

technically speaking you dont have to pay the radio license fee. freedom of information and all that jazz. thats why its not enforced for the radio me thinks!

Dudess

Charm Offensive wrote:

The Mystery Train was the most contrived pile of shíte I've ever heard in my life. I think we can all do without John Kelly trying so very painfully hard to appear edgy, artistic and avant garde on our airwaves.

Well if that's your opinion, cool. But a lot of people would disagree. I think the music John Kelly played was excellent. I don't think he tries to be any of the above. I think that's just his way.

Dudess

easy_as_easy wrote:

technically speaking you dont have to pay the radio license fee. freedom of information and all that jazz. thats why its not enforced for the radio me thinks!

Granted, but it's supposed to be a public service broadcaster, so why doesn't the public get to set the agenda?

dubtom

Dudess wrote:

Granted, but it's supposed to be a public service broadcaster, so why doesn't the public get to set the agenda?

Well we do actually. Shows that are pulled would be because they are not getting the listeners, which is joe public saying I don' like that show. Personally I'll miss the mystery train, some of stuff he's plays I don't like but a lot i do, I'm usually in the car listening, I'll miss it.

easy_as_easy

I didnt care for the mystrey train. could be my hatred of all things John Kelly.

Rattlebag, I will miss though, brilliant show! Learned about so many books and films and musicians through it! Miles was a legend.

Dudess

dubtom wrote:

Well we do actually. Shows that are pulled would be because they are not getting the listeners, which is joe public saying I don' like that show. Personally I'll miss the mystery train, some of stuff he's plays I don't like but a lot i do, I'm usually in the car listening, I'll miss it.

Fair enough

manonthemoon

Seams to be as just another dumming down of Irish Society in general.

I used to really like Rattlebag. You get to hear about latest music, books, plays etc. Sometimes you could get some real jems. Last year he interviewed Liam Clancy (Clancy brothers) talking about their time in 60's in the USA. Sex drugs & rock n roll, hanging with the Kennedys. Great Stuff.

So instead of this we get an extra 15 minutes of Joe Duffy, where some idiot gets to rant about the council or Berties Make up or Jordans tits or Pat Kenny wearing a fricking Munster jersey

:mad:

Man, this country used to have a soul

easy_as_easy

manonthemoon wrote:

Seams to be as just another dumming down of Irish Society in general.

I used to really like Rattlebag. You get to hear about latest music, books, plays etc. Sometimes you could get some real jems. Last year he interviewed Liam Clancy (Clancy brothers) talking about their time in 60's in the USA. Sex drugs & rock n roll, hanging with the Kennedys. Great Stuff.

So instead of this we get an extra 15 minutes of Joe Duffy, where some idiot gets to rant about the council or Berties Make up or Jordans tits or Pat Kenny wearing a fricking Munster jersey

:mad:

Man, this country used to have a soul

here here! :cool:

Dudess

My sanctimonies entirely

popebenny16

When, exactly, did this country have soul????

This is deckchairs on the titanic stuff. What did John Creedon do to deserve this? Last year he was still doing 12 noon now its 12 midnight!!! Does this mean that I'll never hear Val Joyce whispering into a mike again? As for "Drivetime" please. How about Swingshift or something like that? I'm surprised there isnt a bleedin half hour of Eddie Hobbes and business news thrown into it. If RTE wanted to do anything decent they really should get an RTE 3 going, shove Gerry Ryan and Marty in there along with John Kelly, Myles Dungan and Ryan Turgidy.

It just goes to show, Ryan and Kenny are like a big septic blockage in the schedules. Pour some salt and Cilit Bang degreaser on them or everyone will be tuning into Newstalk, or Shaws as I call it - they're almost nationwide.

jjbrien

I think this new scedue is in repsonce to Newtalk getting a National licence. Thats why you seen so many current affars shows suddenly appearing on RTE Radio 1. I listen t newstalk in Dublin already and will keep with it. I gaveup on RTE along time ago. The same old people on that station for years Newstalk is far ahead of them.

Skyuser

And 2fm brought back Marty Whelan. Talk about taking a step back.

Wertz

popebenny16 wrote:

If RTE wanted to do anything decent they really should get an RTE 3 going, shove Gerry Ryan and Marty in there along with John Kelly, Myles Dungan and Ryan Turgidy.

Seriously.

For a "yoof" station, 2FM is closer to it's midlife crisis than it is to being youthful.
I have very little but contempt for the majority of output on 2FM...radio1 seemed to hit it's target audience pretty well I though...now they're scrapping any few bits of cultured stuff they had going in an attempt to play catch up with newstalk; typical RTÉ, copy something instead of trying a little innovation.

DublinWriter

Wertz wrote:

For a "yoof" station, 2FM is closer to it's midlife crisis than it is to being youthful. I have very little but contempt for the majority of output on 2FM

They need a major cull of everyone on 2FM as like BBC Radio 1 in the mid 90's where they kicked out all the 'Smashy and Nicey' type DJs.

Wertz wrote:

...radio1 seemed to hit it's target audience pretty well I though...now they're scrapping any few bits of cultured stuff they had going in an attempt to play catch up with newstalk; typical RTÉ, copy something instead of trying a little innovation.

I think Rattlebag was one of the few good things left on RTE Radio 1.

mike65

popebenny16 wrote:

It just goes to show, Ryan and Kenny are like a big septic blockage in the schedules. Pour some salt and Cilit Bang degreaser on them or everyone will be tuning into Newstalk, or Shaws as I call it - they're almost nationwide.

Bang-on! Though I think Kenny does a good job on radio.

Mike.

constitutionus

Wertz wrote:

Seriously.

For a "yoof" station, 2FM is closer to it's midlife crisis than it is to being youthful.

agreed, is there ANYBODY in 2FM under the age of 40? gerry ryan is as about a relevant to me as the pope and as for dave fanning FFS:rolleyes:

wertz wrote:

I have very little but contempt for the majority of output on 2FM...radio1 seemed to hit it's target audience pretty well I though...now they're scrapping any few bits of cultured stuff they had going in an attempt to play catch up with newstalk; typical RTÉ, copy something instead of trying a little innovation.

gas thing is Newstalk practically copied RTE when they started, just listen to the output. when RTE is doing sport, Newstalk is doing sport and so on. thing is though Newstalk LEARNED what works for them and thats why theyre kicking RTEs arse. theres still a little too much of the semi state thing going on with RTE which is why the civil servant mentality of promoting people from seniority instead of ability is endemic in that organisation. in Newstalk if you dont get the numbers your out on your arse, theyve dramatically changed their presenters over the years not to mention the format for the entire station (im actually sad enough to remember the 20/20 news:D ). you'd never see this in a month of sundays from RTE.
My feeling on this? keep an eye out for your man who presented rattlebag. Newstalk have a weak link in their saturday arts show and i can see them scooping this guy up in a minute:D wait'll you see RTE may come to regret how its treated some of these presenters and their audience