Can you be fat and happy?

Volvoboy

Listening to the fm104 phone show there last week and the topic was can you be fat and happy?

now, i'm not a small fella by no means of the imagination but i'm as happy as larry, when i look in the mirror i dont see a fat or obese person looking back all i see is 'me', i have a good life, job, friends etc. what do you think can you be fat and happy?



i'm fat and i'm happy
38' waist
6ft 3
17 st

jesus_thats_gre

I am bigger that yourself and am at about 95% happiness..

TerrorFirmer

17 stone, 6'3 and a 38 waist? That doesn't really add up.....unless you are either muscular, or have a beer belly as opposed to being actually generally fat - but judging from the thread topic I hardly imagine it's the former.

I'm 13 1/2 stone and wear the same size (38) trousers usually, so I don't see how somebody nearly four stone heavier then me wears the same trousers

Of course you can be fat and happy. It's not so much about being fat; it's about how you feel about being fat which varies from person to person.

Uthur

Volvoboy wrote:

Listening to the fm104 phone show there last week and the topic was can you be fat and happy?

Why not? If weight isn't something you care about you can be as fat
as you like and be perfectly happy. One size does not fit all as they
say

deaddonkey

Ask Frank Black, he'd tell you for sure.

hullaballoo

Fat is subjective.


/Edit. Actually so is happiness. So I don't know what my point is.

Faith

HavoK wrote:

17 stone, 6'3 and a 38 waist? That doesn't really add up.....unless you are either muscular, or have a beer belly as opposed to being actually generally fat - but judging from the thread topic I hardly imagine it's the former.

I'm 13 1/2 stone and wear the same size (38) trousers usually, so I don't see how somebody nearly four stone heavier then me wears the same trousers

Because height plays a huge part. If he's 6'3 and you're, for example, 5'8, that's how he wears the same size trousers. He has more body for the weight to spread over.

TerrorFirmer

Faith wrote:

Because height plays a huge part. If he's 6'3 and you're, for example, 5'8, that's how he wears the same size trousers. He has more body for the weight to spread over.

I'm 6'1 and fairly broad :cool:

So 2 inches doesn't really explain that in an almost four stone variation two guys wear the same trousers

Not that I care like lol, just a silly thing, but anybody I know that's 17 stone or over wears size 42 or over....

ST*

In fairness VB, your height would carry off your weight.
and to answer your question, I think its person dependant.
I know when I was a bit bigger, I wasn't too happy tbh. It wasn't
all about looking better, I feel better healthwise too. I'd a hell of alot of
baby weight to get shot of, and did. I'm lighter now than before I had the
two kids. I've a couple of friends who are + sizes, and their attitudes vary.
One of which is fine with it, a happy person. and and one or two others lament about not sticking to diets like its the only thing in the world that matters. People have lost sight of the real issue, which is the health benefits involved with weight loss. not to get into those old jeans or whatever.

hullaballoo

Shock_Treatment wrote:

In fairness VB, your height would carry off your weight.
and to answer your question, I think its person dependant.
I know when I was a bit bigger, I wasn't too happy tbh. It wasn't
all about looking better, I feel better healthwise too. I'd a hell of alot of
baby weight to get shot of, and did. I'm lighter now than before I had the
two kids. I've a couple of friends who are + sizes, and their attitude varies.
One of which is fine with it, a happy person. and and one or two others lament about not sticking to diets like its the only thing in the world that matters. People have lost sight of the real issue, which is the health issues involved. not to get into those old jeans or whatever.

Ah so it is subjective.

ST*

hullaballoo wrote:

Ah so it is subjective.

Love the sig, has a nice psychotic touch to it

Ickle Magoo

Of course you can be fat & happy, same as you can be skinny & happy, ugly & happy, etc, etc.....

If you are overweight but happy with your weight and life in general, you will obviously be a fat, happy person....if your weight contributes to making you miserable or you over eat as a result of being unhappy, you will be an unhappy fat person.....

I was 4stone overweight after I had my son but I can honestly say I had never been happier....that's not to say I wanted to be 4stone overweight but I was really, really happy - and fat!

HashSlinging

Hey im 6' 5', loose 38 waist and weigh 19 stone.. happy with my lot anyway.

Blisterman

Aren't fat people supposed to be jolly?

azezil

I could never be, some years ago I was living at home, depressed and went up to 11 1/2 stone came close to 12... hated how I looked, back to 10 1/2 now

I'm 5'10", 31' waist

dundalk cailin

Think there is more pressure on girls (in my opinion anyway)
Im not near happy with my figure, im 1.65m (5 ft 5), im a 12-14, round 10.5 stone and i am very self conscious of how i look. i suppose by irish standards there's a lot of girls out there the same size as me or bigger. most of my friends are bigger than me, my 3 closest friends are, and they're not happywith their figures. But im doing something bout it (healthier diet, more exercise) so i guess im dealing with the issue

spiderlegs

deaddonkey wrote:

Ask Frank Black, he'd tell you for sure.

Words of wisdom indeed.

Volvoboy

Ask Frank Black, he'd tell you for sure.

Googled his name i take it hes a singer, .


anyhew, i think that most people are so selfcontious -(i hope i spelled that right) about what people think hence, unhappy, just remember people are judgemental about everything in this world and they are never happy, you are.

cormie

Maybe you never think about it, but would you not prefer to be a bit more slim? If done correctly it would mean you will be far more healthier. Would you not prefer that, would you not be happier knowing you were more healthy?

Havok..... there's no way you're a 38! What you talking bout son? Here's Havok,

Terry

azezil wrote:

I could never be, some years ago I was living at home, depressed and went up to 11 1/2 stone came close to 12... hated how I looked, back to 10 1/2 now

I'm 5'10", 31' waist

you put on weight when you were depressed?
i was the opposite.
i'm 6' 2" and when i was at my suicidal stage (about 8 or 9 years ago. 21 years old then and a fully grown man) i weighed 9 stone. now i'm kind of happy and weigh 17 stone, which makes me technically obese.

i have a friend (see picture in the know your nerds thread) who is 5' 8" and did weigh 17 stone. he's now down to 12 1/2 and looks a shell of his former self. i don't think the weight loss has made him any happier.

oh yeah. 38" waist. most of my body weight is beer and pizza related. very large beer belly.

Mr.Nice Guy

You can't be fat and happy. Fat people aren't happy, they're jolly.

ST*

cormie wrote:

Havok..... there's no way you're a 38! What you talking bout son? Here's Havok,

Maybe he gets the bigger trousers for another reason altogether :v:




:eek:

Binomate

My old man seems to be hapy enough and he's a giant. Has a huge belly on him. I'm the other end of the scale. 6"2, 32" waist and I'm only 8 stone. Everyone keeps telling me that I should be a certain weight and should match standards for my weight but I'm happy as I am thanks very much. Either way, fat or thin you can be happy.

Cableguy

Just answering a stupid question without reading any reply`s


YES OF COURSE

What a stupid question.

Terry

6' 2" and 8 stone. :eek:

dude, you seriously need to put on some weight. that's not healthy.
when i was underweight i suffered from heart palpitations and they are scary as ****. pretty much harmless, but scary nonetheless.
no, that's just wrong. you need at least another 2 stone, if not more.

Volvoboy

Cableguy,

just answering a stupid post.


by your logic all thin people are happy?

i take it that your not fat, so are you happy?

cormie

Yes, you can, but you it's better not to be fat.

Terry

it's healthier not to be fat, but it's also healthier not to be skinny.

Ickle Magoo

Surely the healthiest thing is to be happy? If I were the perfect weight for my height & completely miserable - does that make me healthier than if I were overweight and happy? Just curious......

cormie

happiness is of course the main thing, but if you overweight and happy, you I'm sure 99% of overweight happy people would be happier if they were a healthy weight.

Binomate

julep wrote:

6' 2" and 8 stone. :eek:

dude, you seriously need to put on some weight. that's not healthy.
when i was underweight i suffered from heart palpitations and they are scary as ****. pretty much harmless, but scary nonetheless.
no, that's just wrong. you need at least another 2 stone, if not more.

But I'm perfectly healthy. I'm not fit or anything but I'm healthy. I like being underweight. I've done one of those tests before to see if I was under weight and I scored just slightly below average weight. If I had one extra pound I'd be classes as average.

Volvoboy

I'm sure 99% of overweight happy people would be happier if they were a healthy weight.

Nope, i dont mean to speak for everyone who is overweight bt my personal op is i'm happy with the way i am.


If you were to give me a plastic surgeon for a day and i could have anything i wanted done to my body i wouldnt change a f**king thing.

Ickle Magoo

cormie wrote:

happiness is of course the main thing, but if you overweight and happy, you I'm sure 99% of overweight happy people would be happier if they were a healthy weight.

That's very true.....I just meant that I don't think weight is necessarily a good indicator of happiness or health for that matter....I have thinnish friends and podgy friends, one of my thin friends eats crap and smokes 40 a day - she is neither particularly happy nor healthy.....I have a podgy friend who goes to the gym twice a week, is pretty happy in life but likes chocolate and beer a little too much and finds the weight easy to gain & difficult to shift.....I'd say she is both happier and healthier than her slim counterpart - yes, I'd agree she would be happier without the excess weight....but I would also say she'd never swap her spare tyre for the life of the thin girl.....

Tar.Aldarion

Clearly it is impossible to be both fat and happy, choose folks.

hullaballoo

Blisterman wrote:

Aren't fat people supposed to be jolly?

I laughed so much I peed a bit.

OMcGovern

I'm 5' 10", with a 40" waist, 15.5 stone.

I think the biggest factor is psychological self image

I'm reasonable broad and well built, and that's what I see most of the time.
I can be socially extroverted when I think of enough jokes and smart remarks.
I used to be 12 stone in college and had acne..... I looked in the mirror but saw nothing but spots. I was reasonably skinny then.
But I showed my college photo id to a female friend and she went weak at the knees.... I was attractive in college, and only saw the acne, so I rejected girls who were in hindsight "throwing themselves at me".... honestly.... no exaggeration.

If you're fat, don't aim for skinny members of the opposite sex.
Hopefully, you're attracted the girls/guys of a similar "level".
Aim for a female/male version of yourself, and things should work out.

If you're soooo heavy that you have medical problems.... that's a problem admittedly. That could be considered "self destructive behaviour", and may need addressing with counsellors or other more experienced mind fockers :-)

In summary.... if you're fat and it doesn't get in the way of your life/objectives, then you're probably feeling okay about it.
I like cute 'n' curvy women... so I don't see a problem.
Everyone goes through the ups and downs of life, and I'd be surprised if someone didn't have what they considered to be at least a weeks worth of depression at some stage in their life.

regards,
Owen

jesus_thats_gre

cormie wrote:

Maybe you never think about it, but would you not prefer to be a bit more slim? If done correctly it would mean you will be far more healthier. Would you not prefer that, would you not be happier knowing you were more healthy?

Of course you would like to be slimmer as it is associated with being more attractive and has the benefit of being healty.

Cutie18Ireland

yes!!!
im a size 20, 5ft 8ish
and 15st and yeah i am happy!!
and i am active and healthy!!

GrumPy

im 5'11 (no less then 5'10 anyways) 30 waist, and just over 9stone, i'll be 18 in just over 2 months- i need to eat :eek:

Attol

I'm 10 stone and about 2 pounds. I'm 165 cms tall. I'm an 18 year old girl and I feel like a whale. I'm just above a size 12 hip wise (size 31) and size 12 on top. I used to be a size 10 yet still felt I was so fat. I didn't realise until after I'd gained loads of weight (due to moving away from my social life, friends etc. and just eating out of boredom) how thin I'd been. I'm having so much trouble shifting the stone and a bit that I want to get rid of. You just don't appreciate how you look if you don't have confidence in your physical appearance. I wouldn't consider myself particularly shy or anything, I just don't appreciate what I have lookswise.

It depends totally on the person. Also different people carry it off differently and everyone has their own perception of beauty. To be honest I can't think of any girls that I have known that have been 100% happy with their appearance regardless of shape or size.

OMcGovern

Yeah, girls are a lot more vulnerable to negative self image than guys.
I'd a female friend, absolutely lovely looking, and soooooo thin that a figure hugging surfing wet suit actually looked loose on her, who just thought she had flabby tricepts ( underarm flabbiness ).

I think guys tend to have a positive self image, and girls a negative one.
Maybe cos "society" expects girls to look good.
Although I reckon that's more female competitiveness / bitchiness, than what guys expect.

I'd like to suggest that one of the psychologically healthiest things you can do is have a close friend of the opposite sex.... someone you tell tell anything too, and get honest opinions whether you like the answers or not.

regards,
Owen

Rb

Fat people can be happy imo, of course they can.
That said, an awful lot of fat people would be unhappy about being fat which would probably affect their overall happiness but I'm sure theres plenty of fat people that just couldn't give a sh1te and are happy with how they live.

LadyLotts: Size 12 is nothing to worry about, the average size of women that I help in the store I work in would have 29-31 inch waists and I wouldn't call them fat at all.

Azureus

of course they can be happy, provided theyre healthy theres no reason for someone overweight not to be. that said, the stick insect world we live in probably has a negative effect on many bigger people (same as it does everyone else i suppose!) it depends on the character of the person.

R0ot

Im a skinny runt, i eat a load of crap and i still aint gained a pound, on the flip side i do train alot, and play alot of basketball, but im a big gamer too. My g/f hates me when i can eat a load more than her and nothing happens, im told ill get fat soon, all the time, but im 19 now and still nothing

cormie

I'm so jealous of people like you root!! The amount of healthy eating I do and it takes so long to show any results. Damn you:v:

slightlycrazy

Is 12 and 1/2 stone at 6ft 3 overweight?? With a 32 inch waist?

Rb

slightlycrazy wrote:

Is 12 and 1/2 stone at 6ft 3 overweight?? With a 32 inch waist?

no.
Well, check your bodyfat percentage or ask your GP 'cause everyones different.

plonk

I would say every fat person would be happier if they lost weight.

cormie

slightlycrazy wrote:

Is 12 and 1/2 stone at 6ft 3 overweight?? With a 32 inch waist?

That sounds like a healthy weight for sure, but this is only detemined by weight and height, you may be that weight with an unhealthy diet so it all depends.

slipss

yeah of course fat people can be happy, but that deosn't mean they should be happy about being fat, or that they wouldn't be happier if they weren't fat. Not being fat is always better than being fat, your healthier, more attractive and generally happier because you have one less thing to worry about. There isn't really an excuse for being fat, if you exercise and eat healthy food then you won't be fat. I'm a big supporter of people being themselves and all that but not when its just lazy uninformed or careless.

embee

Your own level of happiness is not directly proportional to your weight.

If that was the case, all skinny people would be unhappy, and all fat people would be happy.