Getting a gun licence

Our man in Havana

Hi,

First post here.

I am getting a .22 rifle from my uncle in the uk who sells guns. Can anyone please tell me the procedure on how to get a licence. He will not ship it to me until I have a licence.

Do I have to go see the super?

Thanks
007

FranknFurter

:eek:
Just keep it away from the animals hon! lolol

civdef

Short version: go to your local Garda Station, tell them you would like to apply for a rifle licence.

Stuff you'll need:

A reason why you want a rifle (i.e. hunting or target shooting).

Evidence of the above, i.e. a letter(s) of permission from landowner(s) that you have permission to shoot on their land or membership of a shooting club.

Details of the rifle: description (make & bolt action/semi-automatic), serial number, calibre. These should be on a letter from the person you are getting the rifle from - usually of the form:

I intend to sell/transfer the following firearm:
CZ bolt action .22lr rifle
Serial # 721566
to Joe Bloggs of Anytown, Anycounty

- signed John Smith, Someplace, Somewhere

Date: xx/xx/xx

It's a very good plan to have secure storage organised, in other words a gun cabinet. Strictly speaking you don't need it yet to get a licence, but this is soon changing, and they also make an awful lot of sense. It also demonstrates you have a responsible mindset.

The procedure at the station is you'll probably be referred to the Garda at the station who deals with firearms licencing. It's a good plan to ring up in advance so you'll have a better chance of finding him/her there. It might even be possible to arrange an appointment. The Garda will have a chat with you, get the relevant details and enter them on a form which you will then sign. The Garda will make the appropriate inquiries, then indicate on the form whether in their opinion you should be granted a certificate. This then lands on the superintendent's desk for sign-off.

Hopefully some weeks (the length can vary) after filling out the form, you get a letter/phone call from the Gardai telling you to come in, collect your licence and pay €38 for it.

That's about as simple as I can make it, if you have more detailed enquiries, myself or someone else here should make a decent stab at answering them.


FranknFurter, don't suppose you have anything useful to contribute?

Sparks

What civdef said

(With a scan of the form you fill in and some other bits and pieces)

rrpc

civdef wrote:

Hopefully some weeks (the length can vary) after filling out the form, you get a letter/phone call from the Gardai telling you to come in, collect your licence and pay €30 for it.

That's about as simple as I can make it, if you have more detailed enquiries, myself or someone else here should make a decent stab at answering them.

It's actually €38 and the license year runs from 1st August to 30th July, if you want to save €38 apply around April/May - it can take up to three months to get said license.

The letter from your uncle must have the serial number as well.

Unless your uncle brings it here, you'll need an importation order, or a friendly gun dealer here to take delivery of the rifle for you.

A letter from a club confirming you are a member is sufficient to prove membership. Landowner must have reasonable landholding, 50 acres upwards is a good rule of thumb.

civdef

It's actually €38 and the license year runs from 1st August to 30th July, if you want to save €38 apply around April/May - it can take up to three months to get said license.

The letter from your uncle must have the serial number as well

Mea culpa rrpc, I've edited my post to correct these mistakes. The last time I wrote one of those letters it was in £, hence my confusion

If Bond-007 gets his licence first, he won't need an import licence though.

les45

I would also purchase a gun cabinet/ safe, apart from the proposed legal requirment it gives you peace of mind in relation to access to the sports equipment by children and "others"

Sparks

civdef wrote:

If Bond-007 gets his licence first, he won't need an import licence though.

True, though there shouldn't be a problem in getting an import licence for a .22 rifle anyway though civ, from all I've been hearing, the problems are all being encountered by people bringing in pistols, rather than rifles.

(And well said to both civdef and les45 - a gun safe is really a must-have).

civdef

All import licences at the moment are subject to long delays I'm being told. This is resulting in hassle getting some of the less common calibres of ammuniton, among other things.

Our man in Havana

Thanks for all the help. My local cop shop is a small affair will I need to call to the main station where the super is?

Can yee suggest a good club club for traget shooting in the Laois area to join please? Is Targetshooting Ireland a proper club for the purposes of the Gardai?

Thanks
007

Sparks

Bond-007 wrote:

Thanks for all the help. My local cop shop is a small affair will I need to call to the main station where the super is?

Not usually, each station would have one garda who handles the firearms licencing, and he'll forward on the application, usually with his recommendation (the idea being that he'd know you better than the super who could be miles away).

Can yee suggest a good club club for traget shooting in the Laois area to join please?

Laois? Bugger, no idea
Anyone else?

civdef

The closest rifle club to Laois is the Midland Rifle Club in Blueball, Co. Offaly, it's only a couple of miles over the border

Probably the best rifle range in the country, for what it's worth.

Sparks

Good grief. My incredible geographic knowlege outed...
(I remain one of the few people who managed to get lost going from the Pearse Street DART station to Trinity College...)

(Humour aside, civ's right in that the MRC is one of the best rifle ranges in the country - though I'd only say it's the best one from the fullbore point of view, since Comber has a better claim on the smallbore title - and that will be challanged by Rathdrum's new range in a few months).

der55

Hi there, Would I need a licence to import an M1 GARAND (BLANK FIRING RIFLE) from the U.K.? I'll be using it for WW2 hobby/living history/re-enacting

der55

Sparks

In short, yes.

packas

Bond-007

Regarding importing the rifle. I would suggest you get it shipped to a dealer in Ireland. It would be less trouble for them to sort the paperwork. I imported a centre fire rifle from UK last year. It took 2 months of battling with the Depart. of Trade & Industry (DTI) in London before they would issue the permit on the strength of my Article 7 (which under EU law is aqequate). Dept Of Justice (Dublin) might try & tell you that you need them to issue you an Article 11. You don't. You only need your Super to issue you an Article 7.

sidneyreilly

der55 wrote:

Hi there, Would I need a licence to import an M1 GARAND (BLANK FIRING RIFLE) from the U.K.? I'll be using it for WW2 hobby/living history/re-enacting

Authorizeation should do it. Dont need anything for the PFC caps ones im told.

viva_zapata74

hi all,

I am a passionate archer and I am looking to give a go at pistols too. Any idea if there's a shooting range in the Cork area that would allow an absolute beginner?

Thanks in advance for any advice

fat-tony

viva_zapata74 wrote: »

hi all,

I am a passionate archer and I am looking to give a go at pistols too. Any idea if there's a shooting range in the Cork area that would allow an absolute beginner?

Thanks in advance for any advice

Try Fermoy Rifle Club http://www.fermoyrifleclub.com/
They have a nice range setup for rifle and pistol.

viva_zapata74

Thanks:)

CMARTY10

hi just wondering for hunting purposes and target practice,is there any good gun clubs in tallaght?

gun and rod in tymon is all i can think of!not sure what they do exactly!

Cass

I think you are refering to Tallaght Rod and Gun - the shop in Tymon north. They are a gun dealers and fishing supplies store. Not a rifle/gun range or club (AFAIK)

If you are interested in either getting into shooting or already are shooting, but would like to join a range then here is a list of ranges/clubs. Its a little outdated from the point that there may be a few more now, but it is still a good starting point.

DeniseandGeoff

Hi,
We hope to be moving to galway in the near future. I have my shotgun certificate here in Wales, so when we move I will store my shotguns in the UK until I get the paperwork sorted in Ireland.

I would love to have a proper rifle .22 centre or rim fire for rabbits something bigger for fox control. I have read a few of the threads but I am still confused, if I use the reason of target practise and join a target club, could i then use the rifle for hunting ?

Thanks in advance for any replies
Cheers
Geoff

Cass

Welcome.

Yes is the short answer. The FCA1 (our application form for firearms) asks for the "primary" use of the firearm. This does not mean the sole use of the firearm. As with a person that has a firearm for hunting. If they join a range or club, then are still entitled to use that firearm for target shooting.

All you need is the land permissions afterwards and you will be set for a bit of hunting.

Ez.

DeniseandGeoff

Thanks for the v quick reply Ezridax, that was a great help, good to see over the water they can still trust people with firearms, not like the draconian laws of the UK, just another tick in the box for the plus in the move to the lovely Emerald Isle
Cheers
Geoff

Cass

No hassle.

We have our fair share of strict laws, but once "good reason" is provided there is very little you cannot do or get.

Any other questions don't hesitate to stick up a post/thread.

Best of luck.


Ez.

sgbrady

hi i was wondering where the closest gun range in clare ireland
:cool:

GreatGayHunter

Hi,
Does anybody know if they’re granting .22 pistol licenses in North Kildare??
Has any been granted recently??
Cheers.

G.G.H

Tackleberrywho

civdef wrote: »

The closest rifle club to Laois is the Midland Rifle Club in Blueball, Co. Offaly, it's only a couple of miles over the border

Probably the best rifle range in the country, for what it's worth.

This thread is like watching Reeling in the Years :D

Sparks did not know where Laois was back then, I hope his Geography has improved :eek:

bestin the west

can you get a gun linceess in a mobile home

Sparks

bestin the west wrote: »

can you get a gun linceess in a mobile home

Short answer - yes.
Long answer - yes, but if it's for anything other than an unrestricted shotgun, you will have to make provision for secure storage elsewhere.
Longer answer - technically yes, but good luck getting the local Super to sign off on it as the local CPO probably won't because of the secure storage element.

kildare.17hmr

cant see why not once you can meet the security requirements. That said i reckon it would have to be an unrestricted shotgun because anything else would require a safe bolted to a solid structure.

chunky211

I am thinking of ordering a 1400fps air rifle and was wondering would a license be required for one and also if I ordered it would it get seized by customs or would it get delivered to me? Any help or info would be much appretiated.

Cass

An Air rifle is classed as a firearm so you need a firearms license for it. In relation to customs you cannot simply order one over the internet/through the post. You need an import license from the DOJ, to have your firearms license before this, the necessary security requirements in place before getting it.

Tackleberrywho

chunky211 wrote: »

I am thinking of ordering a 1400fps air rifle and was wondering would a license be required for one and also if I ordered it would it get seized by customs or would it get delivered to me? Any help or info would be much appretiated.

Trying to import a firearm into the country without an import licence and a firearms licence will get you in deep do-do

http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/Pages/FM07000612

http://www.nargc.ie/Upload/Form%20FCA1.pdf

kildare.17hmr

chunky211 wrote: »

I am thinking of ordering a 1400fps air rifle and was wondering would a license be required for one and also if I ordered it would it get seized by customs or would it get delivered to me? Any help or info would be much appretiated.

I was talking to a guy i used to go to school with over the weekend who brought an air rifle back from wales years ago when we were on a school tour. i asked him if he still had it and he said it was taken off him by the gards, he did not get done lucky enough but he has applied twice since for a shotgun licence and this was the reason he did not get it. Defo not worth it. an extra €80 euro (for the licence) and your legilly set up

grizzly700

I'm 16 and was just wondering what exactly i need to do to get a license for a shotgun or rifle? have laws changed since it was first posted here in 2004.

thanks

Cass

The Red announment at the top of the main forum will hold pretty much all the basic info you need including links to the relevant laws, SI's, and forms you need.

From another post of mine here is a short version. It is about a rifle, but the process is the same for a shotgun.

Ezridax wrote:

Once you have chosen your desired sport you must choose an appropriate caliber to compete with. Your options would be a rifle of one of the following calibers;

• .22lr
• .223
• .243
• 6.5x55
• 6.5x284
• .270
• 7mm WSM
• .308

There are literally dozens of other calibers but these would be a good mix of both hunting, and target calibers suitable for one or the other or both.

Next step is to pick a firearm. Go to as many dealers as you can. Do not rush the decision. Its can be a long enough process to get the license so you cannot pick choose, change your mind, pick choose change your mind once the license process has begun.
Go out and try as many makes/models of the caliber you would most like, but keep an open mind to other calibers as sometimes you end up buying a caliber you did not intend to buy.


Once ypu have a rifle, caliber, mke.model choosen you then need to apply for a license. The red announcement at the top of the main shooting page will give you all the basics. Anything else you need can be asked here. In short you need;

• An FCA1 (application form)
• Letter of sale from dealer with firearm details
• Photos x 2
• Referees to vouch for your character x 2
• Medical details
• Range details including membership number and copy of membership card.
• Seperate sheet of paper with an explanation as to why you want this firearm plus explanations for a mod (silencer) if you choose to get one.
• A witness to sign the application.
• All secure acomodation requirements in place as there is a box you must tick to say you have them in place.

The applcaition can take from 4 weeks to 3 months, and some have even waited up to a year for their license. It is meant to be done within a 3 month time period, but this does not always happen depending on which Garda district you are in.

Once a decision has been made you will receive a receipt letter followed shortly after by a grant letter (if successful) to say you have been granted the license. You can take this and pay your €80 at the post office and within 3-5 day your license will arrive in the post. You can do as some do and use the grant letter, and receipt of payment at the post office to show your license is on the way, but for the sake of a couple of days i don't personally see the need.

You collect your firearm, go to the range and enjoy your shooting.

Also you need to deicde if you want to do target shooting on a range or game shooting on your own land permissions or as a member of a gun club. Either way you need membership details or signed letters of permissions to accompany your application.

Any other questions feel free to ask.

grayman

Hi guys.
Does anyone know what u need to get a licence for a 22 to hunt on your own family land. Around 150 acres

kildare.17hmr

grayman wrote: »

Hi guys.
Does anyone know what u need to get a licence for a 22 to hunt on your own family land. Around 150 acres

Big red announcement at top of hunting forum will explain it all. Process is the same except you put your own land as the reason for wanting it with a letter from whoever owns the land if its not you

eurokev

Hi,

My dad has 5 rifles which he used use hunting years and years ago.
He has held on to them for 50plus years without using them, however has given them to a friend of his on occassion who still hunts just to keep them in working order.

He wants to pass them on to me, and I would love to keep them. I have zero interest in using them, it is purely to keep them in the family.

Should I go about obtaining a gun licence for these, and would I be likely to get one, or should I just keep them locked away in a safe place???

Sparks

eurokev wrote: »

I have zero interest in using them, it is purely to keep them in the family.
Should I go about obtaining a gun licence for these, and would I be likely to get one, or should I just keep them locked away in a safe place???

You don't actually have any choice really, unless you're willing to have them deactivated (ie. put beyond use - barrels plugged, holes drilled in various places, etc, etc).

Either you get a licence for them (and even if you deactivate them, you still need permission from the local Superintendent to keep them) or you sell them; if caught keeping them without a licence, that's a maximum sentence of up to €20k each and up to seven years in prison each.

welboss

Applying for an air rifle licence (first firearm) i will be hunting crows, pigeons and rabbits on my family farm 150 acres plus rented land, I am 17. Would this amount of land suffice or would i need to get permission for another farm. Thanks