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John Titor
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Don't be silly, it would rip the rubber sheet and fall through the hole and make a dent on your nice floor.stevenmu wrote:Now imagine taking something with the weight (mass) of several bowling balls but it's only the size of a marble and putting it on the sheet. It would bend the sheet to the point that it's vertical as opposed to the gentle slope around the bowling ball.
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wow, falling through a hole in the universe , that would really upset the spacetime continum...Gordon wrote:Don't be silly, it would rip the rubber sheet and fall through the hole and make a dent on your nice floor.0 -
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That bit about reading like Dan Browne, Angels & Deamons painted CERN as developing MACH 6 scramjets 'n stuff which I dount they do.
But this bit about going back to get an old IBM .. smacks of Y2K compliance hype. Even if there is total social collapse a lot of knowledge will survive, in the past very little public domain technical knowlegde has been lost. In the "dark ages" people used better farm implements, and crop rotation strategies than in Roman days. Hey, it makes a great argument for OpenSource
Rather than look at the predictions, a quick look at the overall reason for the "mission" (course some skecptic will claim it's a cover story for the real reason )
1.9MHz CPU / 64K memory MAX with BASIC / APL ROM's - not a hard nut to reverse engineer esp if basic has a PEEK function to allow you to read the whole memory map.
http://oldcomputers.net/ibm5100.htmlJohn Titor 02/08/01 09:40: As you are probably aware, UNIX will have a timeout error in 2038 and many of the mainframe systems that ran a large part of the infrastructure were based on very old IBM computer code. The 5100 has the ability to easily translate between the old IBM code, APL, BASIC and (with a few tweaks in 1975)
Eh no, just because it can Emulate does not mean it can reverse engineer Unix. cf. SCO caseApparently, APL was a difficult task for IBM to accomplish with an interpreter in the 5100, so instead they wrote an emulation program so that the S/360 mainframe version of APL could be run instead -- The 5100 is like a desktop IBM S/360 mainframe computer which only runs APL.
This has to be a concidence...
http://inventors.about.com/library/weekly/aa120198.htmThe second "personal computer kit" was the Mark-8 (also Intel 8008 based) designed by Jonathan Titus.
Wasn't it M$ that would get upset in 2038 ?
Also today
http://timetravelportal.com/viewtopic.php?t=41 - OMG some "time travellers" are hoaxers !0 -
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I think I got swayed by the black SUV..I have visions of a men in black conspiracy.stevenmu wrote:Unless, you're suggesting that the government is behind the arson attacks to try and provoke a response ?
From what I've been reading church fires down that way aren't all to rare, in fact there have been no less than 59 fires over the past five years: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11217468/
apparantly they seem to have difficulty finding a motive for the most recent spate, or at least it's not a cut and dry case. It all does seem very professional and orchestrated though.In the past five years, Alabama has had 59 church fires, 19 of those ruled arsons, Ingram said.
Alabama is no stranger to seemingly random attacks on churches. An Indiana man who called himself a missionary of Lucifer pleaded guilty to setting fires at 26 churches in eight states, including Alabama, over a five-year period that ended in 1999.
Jay Scott Ballinger pleaded guilty in April 2001 to setting church fires in Alabama, California, Indiana, Ohio, Kentucky, Missouri, South Carolina and Tennessee from December 1998 through January 1999, according to the Justice Department. He was sentenced to life in prison.
edit:wouldn't it be christian right vs liberals? I know a lot of Americans who find it easier to blame the christian right for all of america's problems rather than hold Bush & co directly responsible.0 -
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This may be relevant, if not very interesting. It's an email I got from an email discussion list.It might be useful to look back at some recent history.
Back in the mid-90s there were a number of media reports about an "epidemic
of black church burnings". I remember pictures of black congregants crying
over the smoking ruins of their churches, with the implication that this was
a return to days when the KKK bombed black churches.
The Justice Department created a task force to investigate, and the first
conclusion they came to, obvious from the evidence, was that there was no
"epidemic of black church burnings", there was merely an epidemic of church
burnings. Black churches were no more or less likely to be victims of arson
than white churches. [See
http://hatemonitor.csusb.edu/atf/church1998/chart_a.gif] (It's unfortunate
that we still have "black" and "white" churches, but I digress.)
It seems there were people running around burning churches, and the most
common motive was bigotry against Christians, not racial bigotry. One guy
in particular, convicted of a couple dozen church arsons and suspected of
many more (if my memory is correct), had a deep hatred for Christians.
Of course the media never reported this to the extent they did when they
thought it was a racial story. Widespread racial bigotry conforms to their
"folk marxist" worldview in which black people are an oppressed group.
Christians are an oppressor group in their worldview, and many journalists
have their own biases against that group, so it's uncomfortable for them to
report a story like that.
http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/church_arson/arson98.html
"Of the 308 persons arrested, 254 are white, 46 are African American, and
eight are Hispanic. One hundred and nineteen people arrested were juveniles.
Of the 106 suspects arrested for arsons at African American churches, 68 are
white, 37 are African American and one is Hispanic. Of the 197 suspects
arrested for arsons at non-African American houses of worship, 181 are
white, nine are African American, and seven are Hispanic. Five of the white
suspects were arrested for arsons at both African American and non-African
American churches. [See Appendix 1, Charts P-T.] As of September 8, 1998,
there were 427 investigations in which arrests had not yet been made."
...
"A. Motives
"The arsons at African American churches raised significant fears about an
increase in racially motivated crimes. The NCATF has recognized that, to the
greatest extent possible, it is important to determine the motives
underlying the attacks on houses of worship. However, it can be difficult to
establish motives conclusively.
"Among the racially motivated church arsons so far solved through
convictions, two church arsons have been directly linked to Ku Klux Klan
members. Evidence concerning a separate incident of two church arsons
included information that some of the arsonists had attended a Ku Klux Klan
rally two days before the arson. The remaining racially motivated church
arsons for which there have been convictions do not appear to have direct
connections to readily identified hate groups, but rather are the acts of
small groups of individuals or of arsonists acting alone.
"There have been convictions for racially or religiously motivated attacks
on houses of worship in Alabama, Florida, Illinois, Louisiana, Mississippi,
Nevada, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee and Texas.
"As reflected by the list of convictions attached as Appendix 2, the arsons
-- at both African American and other houses of worship -- were motivated by
multiple factors, including racism and religious hatred. Arsonists have
burned churches for other reasons, including opportunistic and random
vandalism, pyromania, mental health disturbances, feuding with ministers,
retribution against religious authorities, parking or neighborhood disputes,
covering up of burglaries, and financial profit. In some cases, the
arsonists claimed they believed the church to be an abandoned building."
http://hatemonitor.csusb.edu/atf/church1998/chart_p.gif
Hope this clears up who the "usual idiot crowd" is.
-<name removed>
PS Looking through the list of convictions that came from the task force's
focus on this issue back then, it strikes me that many of those people would
be getting out of prison right about now. So maybe it's the same idiot
crowd.
There's nothing there that looks particularly ominous to me anyway.
(altough in a nice touch of synchronicity, the thread is called 'Is It Censorship'
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