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Should I buy a console?
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The fact is that at the moment there is only one good game for the xbox that I can name that isn't already available on another platform or will soon be and it's Project Gotham Racing. And that is basically MSR 2.0
Think about it, what is the point in owning an xbox when you can play all of it's best games on other platforms and get to play all the other great games that won't ever appear on xbox, of which there are many. That is why I won't buy an xbox and will not until there is something that interests and frankly there isn't anything.
P.S. Halo is half a great game.
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Mad idea that amp you crazy mofo
As for the possibility of 3rd ech been a troll account I dont know he hasnt annoyed me too badly yet
Anyway back on topic. 3rd Ech (soz cant be arsed tyin out you full name
) Please READ the posts as I have had to repeat myself repeated and I will do so again now.
A vast amount of people who play games will have access to a PC, be it thier brothers, fathers, mothers, sisters, whatever. This been the case any of the decent games on the XBOX eg halo will be better and better played in the PC.
Now yes I get your point about the XBOX been open for people that have a PC, but this just isnt the case. The XBOX at the moment doesnt even hold half the market share that the PS2 does. As such software developers arent going to make games for a console that isnt in half the peoples houses and therefore less games and directly as a result lesser quality games will be on the XBOX.
When it comes down to it the XBOX atm doesnt have the software base or even the ownership base to justify its future sales or even dare I say it an XBOX 2. Even if some good titles come out for it they have to be titles that are so good they make people want to go out and buy an XBOX for that reason alone.
As for converting games from version to version goes this will happen with all the goods games on the XBOX but not vica versa. Heres why.
Lets say.... im a software developer I want to make money. If there is a good game on the XBOX its code is in a PC type format and as such is easy tyo convert to the PS2. Also, the majority of people who own consoles own a PS2, therefore, if I convert it I am appealing to the largest audience and im garunteed a good return.
Now the filpside. A good game on the PS2 wont get converted for the following reason. Again from a developers point of view, Im not going to change it over because this time im going the other harder way of changing PS2 code into XBOX code which is harder. Now to the crux or the matter, why should I as a developer spend a load of money when I look at the amount of people that own an XBOX im not garunteed a very big return.
Its for these reasons that the XBOX isnt in a good position now and unless it releases a game the standard of Metal Gear Solid it will stay where it is.0 -
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I dont see how im thinkng inside the box
But anyway, as you said yourself developers want to make money not lose it. This basically is what I have already said, if you make a game then you want it to be accessable to the most people. Therefore the one with the largest market share is where you make the most money.
The XBOX sold well on it orgional launch, however, lack of quality titles since it release has seen its sale decellerate alarmingly. The figures you stated about the sales does not mean that in the next 18 months another 13 million will be sold in fact I have it from people inside MS that the oppsite is ture they are only hopefull of getting another 4/5 millions units shifted in the year.
The PS2 is still selling strong ,however, its projected sales arent even similar to that of the XBOX for this year they are actually less but this isnt suprising when you have the majority of the units allready in place.
The only this that can really save the XBOX atm is what you have already mentioned. MS buying up dev companies. This means that they can make games for their system. Where as other companies wouldnt want to due to that fact the the console isnt in as many homes. The only hope for the XBOX is that MS can keep on throwing money at it untill they are bule in the face.0 -
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Most of the companies that MS are buying up are america developers. However there are by far the best games come from Japan and Europe. There are very few developers that can make games as good as the Japanese probably only Blizzard and Valve. Most Japanese companies won't touch the xbox since it is doing terrible in Japan and they think that it is cutting into a market that was practically run by Japanese companies. The japanese games on the PS2 and GC are of a far higher quality than most of the american tosh on xbox. I think MS will be far more agressive in getting much more japanese support with the xbox 2.
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Do not fall for the lulls of the fallen ones.
If you are a PC gamer! Do not mix with the lesser mortals for they do not know the internal workings of the passion machine but are mere slaves to technology.
For we, the PCG*, are the chosen ones who will always be at the forefront of the impossible and take on the challenges it brings, it with open arms. We are stronger than any CG with our knowledge and wisdom gained through years pf batting with the unwieldy. It has made us men!
Do not, oh foolish one, leave the path of true glory for the grass is never greener on the other side.
Amen,
The Duke : ))
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For we, the PCG*, are the chosen ones who will always be at the forefront of the impossible
While you were playing Commander keen and Duke nukem 1+2 I was playing Mario and Sonic.
While you were playing Raptor I was playing Thunderforce and Axelay.The PS1 when initally launched was a bit of a disappointment.
Bullsh$t The PS1 sold loads because it was a far superior machine to the sega saturn and had far better games at launch. It was a choice of a woeful conversion of daytona and the ancient virtua fighter or arcade perfect versions of Ridge Racer and Tekken. Also it was much cheaper than the saturn. The N64 wasn't out for another 2 years and by that time the PS had built up too great a lead for Nintendo to catch up like they did with the SNES. The adverts were crap.
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but when we played DOOM II, Duke, Quake, Unreal, etc. on-line you where still, and still are, using post cards to your friends....
ha, now who's on top :cool:
I totally believe in and nourish the large rift between Console and PC gamers.
The Duke : ))0 -
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Your silly american FPS and RTS games are no match for the loony genius of japanese games.:p
When you were playing Quake I was playing Doom on the Snes at less than 10 fps and no ground and ceiling textures. Well maybe you win when it comes to FPS games.
But seriously, if you don't have a console then you are missing out on some brilliant single player games. I think you should have both. Single player PC games are mostly crap at the moment with only a few great RTS games and woeful FPS games. If you want online play then You should use a PC. The consoles have a long way to go to catch up in that department.
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This is a very interesting debate, I'd like to take part in it fully but the problem is I've never played the GameCube, rarely played an XBox and don't play PC games because I haven't got access to a decent machine.
However I've had my PS2 for nearly 2 years and I think it's a great console, games like GTA VC, Final Fantasy X, Max Payne, Kingdom Hearts and Gran Turismo 3 make it great!! I don't like the XBox, it's ugly and the controllers are too big and bulky (for me to use at least
). If I had any money at all I'd buy a GC, purely for the fun factor involved in most of the games and to revisit my Mario addiction days. 0
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