Should I buy a console?

MisterAnarchy

I'm trying to decide whether to buy a console or not.
I have a state of the art PC with everything I need.
A fast graphics card,768Mb of Ram,Audigy 2 soundcard,5.1 speaker sound system ,fancy controllers,a 17inch TFT screen,wireless peripherals etc.
I also have over 100 games ,most of them new releases.
The thing is I'm wondering is there any point in me getting a console .
Is it worth it ?

Asuka

Yes.

A

phreak

Originally posted by Asuka
Yes.

i concur.

MrPinK

no

DiscoStu

Originally posted by MrPinK
no

i disagree. get a console, just not an xpox.

weemcd

yes to play games without stress of crashes

jesus_thats_gre

Yes, and the XBOX is deadly.

Deadwing

do it do it do it do it do it do it.
May i suggest a gamecube sir?
Or possibly PS2?

Dooom

whats so bad about the Xbox? (my god what the hell am i saying....) i mean i know the first word is microsoft but if you try your hardest (and it still won't do away) and get over that...its a reasonably good console. i have (aside form my mega pc ) a ps2 and soon gettin an xbox and im looking forward to it. its got good graphics, decent games etc.



crap - i just realised im about to start off another xbox v everything else debate.....so please no-one argue...just correct me where im wrong

tman

mmmm, get a gamecube.
most of the xbox's decent games are pc ports or are going to be on pc soonish.
ps2 has got a pretty good selection of games but its age is starting to show...
tbh, if i were you i'd just save my cash for a new gfx card for half-life 2, doom 3 & dredd vs death.

Pugsley

If you have a good PC and a decent net connection, I wouldnt bother, you should have all you need to keep yourself occupied.

BLITZ_Molloy

All the machines have something to recommend them (if you buy the good games and not the ****e from EA, THQ and Acclaim).

The PC is really lacking some immediate pick up and play games (emulation excluded) so a console is well worth picking up.

The best bet is probably buying a good pad for your PC, download some arcade, PSOne, Saturn and N64 emulators and see if you like the games. When you've got such a monster PC it's a shame not to.

bizmark

well consoles have in my view all dumbed down game,s other than afew (resident evil zelda etc etc) very few thinking game.s

pc on the other hand has RTS god games and so on ........ so i thing the both go together well

console = pick up and play fun
pc = thinking game,s take time to play but more fun once you get the hang of them

Dcully

If you have a good PC and a decent net connection, I wouldnt bother, you should have all you need to keep yourself occupied.

That pretty much sums it up.

A high end PC is so much better than consoles.

I have a PS2 [for pro evo soccer2 only]
I have an xbox [for DVD under telly only]played Halo multiplayer with 8 other guys for couple of weeks but soon wore off ,im only one left with an xbox.We all went back to our PCs.
Besides any PC ports to xbox are terrible ,wolfenstein,unrealchamp come to mine with terrible framerate even with less detailed textures and lower res than PC.

Cant comment on the Cube.

Dont buy a console if you have a powerfull PC and good net connection,
play Battlefield online with 64 players instead or Planetside with 5,000 players instead.
Easy choice really.
I still love PES2 tho:)

tman

isn't pro evo 3 out on pc now:)

BLITZ_Molloy

Originally posted by tman
isn't pro evo 3 out on pc now:)

ISS3 I think. And It's a ****e port. Evolution is alot better than ISS series these days.

There are some exceptionally good games out there for Cube, PS2 and XBox. They're just not on the shelves in the highstreet. People buy a load of crap games on a platform and then complain how bad it is.. pff!

weemcd

id recomend a cube, the graphics rock the games last ages and are most of all fun, its cheap, all it needs is a gta, but you can play that on pc. The xbox could become the worlds most expensive paperweight very soon.

tman

ah well, i got the '3' part right...

gta3 & vc should be out for the cube & xbox early next year, prolly san andreas too.
cube cube cube cube!

Raskolnikov

You sound like you need a machine with awesome capabilities, you'll only get that kind of preformance with an Atari Jaguar.

lordsippa

I've only a cube myself but it's mad fun. I don't play it half as much as I should but I tend to be out a lot. The games are trés great too. It's the most arcadey of the consoles out there imho and if you're trying to get variety that's what I'd go for. No point getting a console to play what you're playing on the PC (even if it's not the same game but just a similar type). Also, looks like FF is gonna be back with Nintendo. Maybe even a port of Kingdom Hearts! (I'm really dying to play that)

Cake Fiend

You really don't want to play something like Soul Calibur or Zelda with a keyboard and mouse.
Nor do you want to play Counter-strike with a playstation controller with no console.

PCs and consoles both have their places in the gaming market. You need both a PC and console(s) for the full experience.

Shinji

What Sico said. You can't compare PCs and consoles head to head like that - they provide totally different types of games. I'd be pretty miffed if I had to choose between my PC and my console collection... If you're into videogames, you really need to own both a PC and a couple of consoles, otherwise you're basically ruling out a whole range of great games.

Deadwing

Good point. I have all 3 major consoles, but my p.c is still running Win95, so as you can imagine its not exactly up to spec. So i cant really comment on P.C games, but as far as consoles go, it breaks down like this.
If you own a P.C., dont bother getting an Xbox. Its essentially just a p.c. in a (slightly) smaller box.
Buy a cube if you want to play original, fun games you cant get on any other console. (Zelda, Mario, Metroid, and that sweet sweet resident evil remake)
By a Ps2 if you want a safe bet, as its the console with the biggest back catalouge, has some classics (GTA3, ico, Silent hill 2 & 3, project zero) but also has a load of licenced bullshirt and is kinda in a good game drought as we speak.

MisterAnarchy

Thanks for all the advice guys.
Much appreciated.
I was passing by Virgin in Cork this morning and I saw an Ad.
'XBox 164.99 for 5 days only'.
I went in to investigate and I bought one.
Good deal I think.
I'll probably modify it and use it as an MP3 player and games machine.
This was the deciding factor.
As I have said I have a monstrously large selection of PC games ,basically you name it I have it.
Last week I bought Bloodrayne,Hulk,GTA VC,WWE Raw,Splinter Cell,Toca Race Driver,Vietcong and MGS 2.
As regards crashes,I've never had a game crash .
I may yet buy a PS2 and a Gamecube.
I'd like to obviously play Zelda as I have the 2 N64 games.
Masterpieces.
I do believe though that the PS2 is beginning to age but who knows.
Thanks Again

weemcd

Originally posted by Raskolnikov
You sound like you need a machine with awesome capabilities, you'll only get that kind of preformance with an Atari Jaguar.

whats the deal with atari jaguar and boards?, i cant understand it

BLITZ_Molloy

Originally posted by weemcd
whats the deal with atari jaguar and boards?, i cant understand it

It's a rather tired long running joke.

weemcd

its time it was finished, can you tell me how it started, im quite new. Mabye if i know how it started, ill see the fun in it, instead of goin WTF everytime some geek mentions it

lordsippa

a). can people please stop using the word "geeks" when insulting people on a forum they use. The irony is running thin. :rolleyes:

and

b). it's in the Newbie F&Q afaik. I don't get why it got so big but it's now a kinda oldy traditionalist thing for the boards people who are into THAT sorta thing... :ninja:

weemcd

i'm no geek its official:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=103553&perpage=20&pagenumber=3

And btw, how cool is it to talk about atari anyway?

Shinji

Not very, since Infogrames (*spit*) started calling themselves that

weemcd

God Shinji, thats the first time in ages ive seen you post on a thread without closing it down;)

Third_Echelon

good call on buying the xbox... its a great machine.... you hear all these people saying its like a pc and all that cr@p... it may have pc parts inside.. but it is a console.... i think a lot of people are bashing it, because its "cool" not to like xbox... it will soon be the number 1 games console.... mark my words.....

Shinji

i think a lot of people are bashing it, because its "cool" not to like xbox

News to me. Personally I'm not fond of it because it's not got a software line-up as good as the other two consoles. But hey, I guess I'm just excluding it because I'm too damn cool to like Xbox.

it will soon be the number 1 games console.... mark my words.....

Er, no, it won't. No marking words about it. The Xbox has absolutely no hope in hell of selling as many consoles or games as the PS2, ever. PS2 global installed base is around 60 million; Xbox is around 10 million (estimates vary from 9 million to 13 million), same as the Cube (estimates vary from 9.6 million to 12 million).

jesus_thats_gre

Ok something with XBOX in its title will eventually rule! lol

Third_Echelon

it's not got a software line-up as good as the other two consoles

what does the PS2 have that is totally earth shattering at the moment that the xbox doesn't have??? what's that i hear you say?? precisely... I like the GameCube but saying that the xbox isnt as good as the PS2 because of titles is rubbish... quality over quantity is always the better situation

Er, no, it won't. No marking words about it. The Xbox has absolutely no hope in hell of selling as many consoles or games as the PS2, ever. PS2 global installed base is around 60 million; Xbox is around 10 million (estimates vary from 9 million to 13 million), same as the Cube (estimates vary from 9.6 million to 12 million).

ok look at the timescale here.. PS2 was out nearly 2 years before xbox... give the xbox the same time from now and it will be near 60 million...

Asuka

Lol!

Im almost tempted to post a proper reply, but Third_Echelon's argument is fundamentally too damn stupid

A

Third_Echelon

lol... i know, i was just saying that to piss the last guy off....

the thing about the games though is a founded truth.... there is no great games apart from GTA VC on PS2 at the mo, that there isnt an equivilantly good game on the xbox...


about the sales thing... Id say it will sell about 40 - 45 million in the same timescale... it wont sell the same as PS2 as it is the first try by MS in the games console arena... a lot of PS2's sales were obviusly PS1 owners who were already wrapped into Sony's web.... XBOX hasnt had this luxury.... and if it does sell this much then by no means is it a failure...

Dooom

Originally posted by Third_Echelon
lol... i know, i was just saying that to piss the last guy off....

sure you where....:p

Third_Echelon

yeah i was....


nobody slags the xbox and gets away with it.......

xbox forever........

Asuka

Both the sales figures and the games thing are completely wrong, but Ill leave this argument for the people with the stats...

A

Third_Echelon

so were all these fantastic PS2 titles????

weemcd

ur gettin on peoples nerver Third_Echelon. anyway ever heard of grand theft auto, silent hill, mgs. pes, iss, ssx, thps, wwessym.

i cant think of any longer abreviations

also traod

Third_Echelon

sorry for getting on your never (or is that nerves)...

anywho...

yes yes yes... ive heard of GTA and Silent Hill and ISS, SSX, couldnt be arsed trying to guess what all those other abbreviations are....

I have played all of the above on PS2 and apart from GTA VC the rest are not that original albeit they are good games....

my point is that all these types of games are available on xbox... the only reason that GTA VC is only on PS2 is because they have an exclusivity license with SONY for this game on consoles.. this runs out in october or november i think, so GTA VC will be on xbox by xmas....

i think it is just wrong to dismiss xbox because you (other people) prefer PS2..

weemcd

im dislejic, and i know what
traod- tomb raider angel of darkness
thps- tony hawk's pro skater
wwessym- worls wrestling eentertainment smackdown shut your mouth is.

i think it is just wrong to dismiss xbox because you (other people) prefer PS2

that is a perfect reason

Wolf

Originally posted by Third_Echelon
sorry for getting on your never (or is that nerves)...

anywho...

yes yes yes... ive heard of GTA and Silent Hill and ISS, SSX, couldnt be arsed trying to guess what all those other abbreviations are....

I have played all of the above on PS2 and apart from GTA VC the rest are not that original albeit they are good games....

my point is that all these types of games are available on xbox... the only reason that GTA VC is only on PS2 is because they have an exclusivity license with SONY for this game on consoles.. this runs out in october or november i think, so GTA VC will be on xbox by xmas....

i think it is just wrong to dismiss xbox because you (other people) prefer PS2..

The X Box games are nearly all avilable, on the PC and are better on the PC. The PS2 has many titles that have just been mentioned that are great and are only on the PS2 ie Pro Ev Soccer. The best Soccer game on any format.

You obviously have chip on your sholder about the XBOX so just keep your XBOX and stop trying to convince everyone lese that you didnt make a mistake buying it.

Third_Echelon

ah cmon.. dont you think that sony has milked the tomb raider title a bit much with another bloddy tomb raider game...

not liking something and not having tried it is a bit silly, dont you think.... its a bit ignorant (not meant to be directed at you) taking this view having never tried it

weemcd

dont you think xbox has milked halo long enough as their only good original title (soon to be changed)

anyway Third_Echelon you are just a cheap copy on Pugsley- but not as original or as funny.

Third_Echelon

The X Box games are nearly all avilable, on the PC and are better on the PC. The PS2 has many titles that have just been mentioned that are great and are only on the PS2 ie Pro Ev Soccer. The best Soccer game on any format.

that may be true, but they are bringing these great PC games to console gamers who do not play PC games, and there are a lot of people in this bracket... games like wolfenstein, halo, Counter Strike etc couldnt run on PS2 and MS are bringing these great titles to millions of more gamers who have never probably played them before

You obviously have chip on your sholder about the XBOX so just keep your XBOX and stop trying to convince everyone lese that you didnt make a mistake buying it.

i dont have a chip on my shoulder about the XBOX... far from it.. im open to all games on all platforms etc.. i dont think ive made a mistake in buying it.. its the best console ive ever had, and ive had most of them in my time...

as i said in the last post... dont knock it till youve tried it

Third_Echelon

dont you think xbox has milked halo long enough as their only good original title (soon to be changed)

xbox milked halo????? its the first game.... how many bloody tomb raiders have their been?? this is the 5th isnt it????


who the hell is pugsley????

Dooom

Originally posted by Third_Echelon
games like wolfenstein, halo, Counter Strike etc couldnt run on PS2

what the hell?? these games'd run fine on a ps2....well i dunno bout halo but definitely wolfenstein and cs

Wolf

Originally posted by Third_Echelon
ah cmon.. dont you think that sony has milked the tomb raider title a bit much with another bloddy tomb raider game...

not liking something and not having tried it is a bit silly, dont you think.... its a bit ignorant (not meant to be directed at you) taking this view having never tried it

I have tried It I owned an XBOX for a few months and sold it because I rarely touched the damn thing and there were feck all good games coming out for it.

Also Tomb Radier is made by Edios and as such why would Sony be milking it ? Also as long as the game still sell then people obviously think its good and still want to play it so why not make more ? It like saying havent Nintendo milked Mario enuf?

The point is the XBOX was a bad idea from the start. It was supposed to be a consolePC. Basically, so people that cant be bothered with PCs could still play the games. It fail in design, marketing and advertising. Also at the end of the day people that want to play those kind of games will just get a PC and enjoy them much better.

It now holds a small part of the market that is day by day deminishing. Microsoft have lost hugh amounts of money on the XBOX and will continue todo so unless something magical happens.