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22-04-2017, 14:43   #1
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The 8th amendment(Mod warning in op)

The citizens assembly voted to replace or amend the 8th amendment.

50% voted to replace or amend
44% voted to repeal
Rest preferred to not state an opinion

Now deciding how it will be replaced or amended
: Let the Dail legislate on the rights of the unborn
: Amend the provision in the constitution.

Meltdown on twitter by Repealthe8th people.


Mod- This thread has descended in to petty name calling. We've tried to let this thread run without too much mod interference but now it's on our radar we will be watching. From here on the name calling stops. If you can't debate civilly we will remove your right to post.



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22-04-2017, 14:46   #2
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The citizens assembly voted to replace or amend the 8th amendment.

50% voted to replace or amend
44% voted to repeal
Rest preferred to not state an opinion

Now deciding how it will be replaced or amended
: Let the Dail legislate on the rights of the unborn
: Amend the provision in the constitution.

Meltdown on twitter by Repealthe8th people.
Referendum on the way, get out the popcorn
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Referendum on the way, get out the popcorn

But all the repeal gear, Unal Mullally's repeal the 8th book, the t-shirts, etc will have to be replaced or amended too...
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U sure? I thought there would only be a referendum if the repeal option won? Which it obviously didnt.
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Both require a referendum so what's the difference?
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There was me thinking the Dail was our citizens assembly. After all we did vote for them.
More great politics from our elected leaders. Put this decision on someone else to vote for it. Then they can't accept any of the blame for outcomes.
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If all they get is an amendment regards fatal fetal abnormality, which I could accept, it would demolish the pro-abortion repeal crowds favorite stalking horse, I'd be delighted if they had to make their argument without pushing hard cases that make bad law and attempting to strawman abortion in through the back door.
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Two people preferred to not state their opinion, so what's the point of them being part of the assembly? Like people who vote "I don't know" on opinion polls.
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But all the repeal gear, Unal Mullally's repeal the 8th book, the t-shirts, etc will have to be replaced or amended too...
Ha ha, I see what you did there. Well done.
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popcorn?! get out the suitcase you mean. I feel like this campaign has been rehashed my whole life (wait...it has been rehashed my whole life).

I feel like tuning out of the Irish media for the next 12 months or so. Better subscribe to Netflix now I guess.
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The citizens assembly voted to replace or amend the 8th amendment.

50% voted to replace or amend
44% voted to repeal
Rest preferred to not state an opinion

Now deciding how it will be replaced or amended
: Let the Dail legislate on the rights of the unborn
: Amend the provision in the constitution.

Meltdown on twitter by Repealthe8th people.

Option 1 in the next ballot would effectively have the exact same effect as repeal.
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I believe that any vote to repeal it will be defeated. It's like the first time Obama was going for President. When people were polled they said they'd vote for him cause they didn't want to appear racist. If the polls were true he should have won by another 15-18 points.

Same with abortion here. If your against it you keep your mouth shut cause you just get shouted down.

For the record if it comes to a vote I'll vote to repeal it cause I think women should have a right to choose what they do with their own bodies.
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The citizens assembly voted to replace or amend the 8th amendment.

50% voted to replace or amend
44% voted to repeal
Rest preferred to not state an opinion

Now deciding how it will be replaced or amended
: Let the Dail legislate on the rights of the unborn
: Amend the provision in the constitution.

Meltdown on twitter by Repealthe8th people.
I completely support repeal but how is this a legitimate vote when the option "Keep it as it is" wasn't allowed?

It's a bit unbelievable that claims are coming out that 94% of people want the 8th removed or changed when the only options allowed were to vote for repeal or change.
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I believe that any vote to repeal it will be defeated. It's like the first time Obama was going for President. When people were polled they said they'd vote for him cause they didn't want to appear racist. If the polls were true he should have won by another 15-18 points.

Same with abortion here. If your against it you keep your mouth shut cause you just get shouted down.

For the record if it comes to a vote I'll vote to repeal it cause I think women should have a right to choose what they do with their own bodies.
Including FGM, prostitution and womb renting?
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