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06-06-2008, 09:26   #1
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Redbrick?

Anyone got any updates on Redbrick?

The status message on the web site hasn't been updated in quite a while...
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06-06-2008, 12:03   #2
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Yes, it's all back to normal.
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Something failed on the failbrick for a while. All returned now I believe.
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seemingly the newly elected chairman has resigned already...
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Redbricks back?


Oh thank god!
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seemingly The Newly Elected Chairman Has Resigned Already...
I Love That Guy!
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09-06-2008, 01:38   #7
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Hi,

We are pleased to announce that RedBrick is back online following a disk
failure in our primary storage array (minerva) on Tuesday evening. No data
was lost, and the array was re-built sucessfully with a replacement disk.

We are planning to schedule downtime this Saturday to that will allow us
to reduce the number of disks in use on minerva, meaning there would be
spare disks available and installed in the event of future failures.

This work is dependant on re-installing severus, and creating a full backup
of minerva in advance. More detailed notice will be given via boards/motd
later in the week.

I must also take this opportunity to announce the resignation of our
chairperson, robby, and explain the circumtances leading up to this.

On Friday May 16th robby told the committee over irc that he had received
an email containing the root password that had been in use on minerva & murphy
when RedBrick was hacked.

Robby provided this password, but told us that he had deleted the email, which
was received from 10minutemail.com. Myself and the other admins found it
odd that someone would go to the relative trouble of sending mail via
this service, and that robby would delete this potential evidence.

The following Monday I emailed the committee, requesting that we hold an
emergency meeting to dicuss this email. Robby replied, saying he would
be unavailable for any meetings that week. Given that the semester was ending
and people would be gone home by the next week it was decided to hold the
meeting anyway, on the Thursday evening. This was the first meeting called
by anyone since before the network had been compromised.

At this meeting the committee decided that in robby's absence the only
course of action was to discuss the issue further over the email.

Late that night, cian, johan, werdz and I met robby in Fibbers. Cian, Johan and
I expressed our discontent with the situation by telling robby he should resign.
Whatever the circumstances, it was pretty unprofessional of us to have a go
in public like that, and we apologise for our actions.

The following afternoon dano mailed the committee outlining our conversation
about the email, and asking robby for more information. Robby replied to this
email with his resignation, citing the events of the previous night as his
primary reason.

An EGM will be held at the earliest oppertunity next semester to elect a new
chairperson, however the committee have not decided how best to fill this
position in the interim, and will be happy to take on board any suggestions
from members.

All the best,
andrew.
I'm really, genuinely disappointed in the behaviour of the admins in this situation. I can't believe how shabbily robby has been treated and to basically push him out the door before he had a chance to really take the reigns, shows the new and disappointing direction redbrick is taking.

It really has turned into a clique. Taking committee decisions in a pub? What the hell kind of behaviour is that? I'm disgusted, I've been on plenty of committees over the years, some of which contained elements where no love was lost and never have I seen such behaviour.

Robby was elected at the AGM to represent the majority of users who were present, it may not have sat well with some elements on the committee, but his treatment was uncalled for.

Robby, I'm genuinely sorry to see you go, and I really hope that whoever is elected at the proposed EGM can guide redbrick in the direction that the majority of members want it to go, as evidenced by the results at the AGM.
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I've been a member of redbrick for 4 years. Year after year I got to know more and more people, but also I got to see how cliquey the place was also. The only reason I joined back up this year is because i thought I'd a project left on the server and needed to check.

I was around when the passed committee joined redbrick, amazing to see the change in particular users when they got that sought after '@' beside their name...

I doubt I will join up next semester and if I do it will only be to use the server, chat is abismal, bunch of nerds jostling for position trying to out do each other on the most futile of topics. Haha I remember being lectured about my French and how I was wrong, even though I spent 13months in France speaking French and the other person spent 3 weeks on an exchange. Funny stuff.

Anywho well said Amz. Hopefully stuff will get sorted out. Redbrick needs fresh blood and to flush the hangers on. Also free Zyox!

edit: Oh yeah and poor show on the aul hacking incident. Everyone was kept in the dark for ages.
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With behaviour like this, it shouldn't be Robby leaving.

Get to it you bunch of saps.
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I'm really, genuinely disappointed in the behaviour of the admins in this situation. I can't believe how shabbily robby has been treated and to basically push him out the door before he had a chance to really take the reigns, shows the new and disappointing direction redbrick is taking.

It really has turned into a clique. Taking committee decisions in a pub? What the hell kind of behaviour is that? I'm disgusted, I've been on plenty of committees over the years, some of which contained elements where no love was lost and never have I seen such behaviour.

Robby was elected at the AGM to represent the majority of users who were present, it may not have sat well with some elements on the committee, but his treatment was uncalled for.

Robby, I'm genuinely sorry to see you go, and I really hope that whoever is elected at the proposed EGM can guide redbrick in the direction that the majority of members want it to go, as evidenced by the results at the AGM.
Repost time for the boards.ie contingent!

I'd love to hear the, despite possibly drunken, reasoning behind this.
If _I_ hacked redbrick, and I didn't (starts in c ends in # lol), I think
as an outsider the first person I would mail would be the chairperson no?
Obviously there is more bitter unsaid association between robby and what
happened.

Either way, I'd like to take this opportunity to say it is a serious shame
that robby felt he should have to resign over this.
Finally when there was a glimmer of hope, and sincere joy among those
associates who rejoiced when he was elected, that redbrick could be
led once more by someone who had the best interests of the community at
heart then only to see it crushed before the man had a chance of showing
us what he was capable of without the new term having even of begun really
is a stomach churning upset.

Someone who a good few of us put a lot of faith in and were so happy to see
elected, only to see him being pushed more and more out by the admins (who,
in my opinion, made no secret of letting it known they didn't want him
in their exclusive clique) and finally done off by drunken ****e talking.

A real pity.

RIP the brick that could have been.
Thank you robby for standing up that day and actually running when you
were nominated. It made a lot of us happy that you got voted in to something
we had lost a lot of faith in.

I'd really like robby to reconsider his choice to leave. The admins and the "cool kids" on #lobby might not support him, but a lot more people outside of this circle do.

Let's see how things go from here.
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I definitely second most of what's been said.

Also, that I think Redbrick needs to get an outside hand in to help guide the society, because obviously the current committee and most definitely the current admins are unable to do their jobs. SPC rep or something. Because otherwise, Redbrick is doomed.

On a slightly seperate although related note, it seems entirely unfair that every detail of robbys resignation was told by the committee, when NONE of the other relevant information on the previous hack were shared with the society. I think it is the responsibility of the the cmte to share those details with the greater community in order to safegaurd against gossip/misinformation and to encourage openness among the society in general.
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but its redbrick, if they didnt have their sekrets theyd just be normal users... they certainly dont wanna do that!
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The purpose of going into so much detail in the email was in an attempt to be open with members. Transparency imo is important so as not to exclude members from the running of the society. Had we said nothing in the email apart from "we don't have a chair" then I think we'd have the exact same outrage. The email admitted that the behaviour was unprofessional. We're not trying to hide anything. The email was approved by the committee so I guess that was poor judgement on all our parts.

The admins, past and present, spent a lot of their spare time working on restoring everything after the whole security issue and I don't think that many of you appreciate the work they put in, instead choosing to insult them at every available opportunity. No wonder there's issues filling in positions on committee. It's a totally thankless job.
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I wasnt trying to be cheeky with what I said, but I meant it. There is an elitism that goes on in RB. You'd be blind if you didn't notice it. When that lil ops symbol goes beside their name everything changes.
I didn;t attend any RB events this year, no interest. RB may be the biggest soc in DCU but we all know very few people actually stay or are active. Was the same when I was in 1st year.
Dunno why you are mentioning the admins in relation to rebuilding the servers... nobody is debating the work that went into it at all.
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I definitely second most of what's been said.

Also, that I think Redbrick needs to get an outside hand in to help guide the society, because obviously the current committee and most definitely the current admins are unable to do their jobs. SPC rep or something. Because otherwise, Redbrick is doomed.

On a slightly seperate although related note, it seems entirely unfair that every detail of robbys resignation was told by the committee, when NONE of the other relevant information on the previous hack were shared with the society. I think it is the responsibility of the the cmte to share those details with the greater community in order to safegaurd against gossip/misinformation and to encourage openness among the society in general.
We gave out pretty much everything we could about the break in, there was quite a long thread about it on boards (redbrick boards, not boards.ie). As for us being unable to do our jobs, I'd think I'm quite capable of being an admin. Running a committee, the admin team is an awful lot less good at. We're supposed to have a chair, to organise meetings and things for that. During the entire break in/everything else, I believe robby sent one email to the committee. He certainly didn't provide any type of leadership, or anything of that like. And yes, I did a terrible job of dealing with robby, and it's something I've apologised to him for, and I have no problem apologising to anyone else, or offering my resignation come the EGM.

On a further point, No one in the committe, bar myself, was in anyway out of line here. So lay off them. Attacking a group who for the most part are new on the committee, and whos involvement in this was decidedly limited, is only going to hurt Redbrick.
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