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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 276 ✭✭Rocky Bay


    Rocky Bay wrote: »
    ...now headed for Sneem.
    AIR...now headed for Schull. Anybody find out who is on board?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    Rocky Bay wrote: »
    AIR...now headed for Schull. Anybody find out who is on board?

    I heard the Cadbury's heir. I also heard nobody. Purely doing a PR cruise to be seen in all those other places.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭marlin vs


    I heard the Cadbury's heir. I also heard nobody. Purely doing a PR cruise to be seen in all those other places.
    It actually arrived here late for the Titanic anniversary and stayed here because they had no where else to go and too costly to keep it moving it around and didn't get enough media attention.As if they hadn't enough knowledge to do their figures to get here on time.:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,700 ✭✭✭tricky D


    Rocky Bay wrote: »
    AIR...now headed for Schull. Anybody find out who is on board?
    I heard the Cadbury's heir. I also heard nobody. Purely doing a PR cruise to be seen in all those other places.

    There's a thread on the Cork forum with lots of speculation and a few good photos (post #22): http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?threadid=2056632195


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Nice to see something unusual in and out of Dublin again
    http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/shipdetails.aspx?mmsi=258531000


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 276 ✭✭Rocky Bay


    O to be on the beach in Rocky Bay this morning...Olib and Alfa Italia laying offshore with the Esther Schulte and her bananas approaching as I type this. Last time I was in Ringaskiddy I don't recall noticing a container yard so I would imagine that there is a long line of artic's waiting for the boxes off the Esther Schulte. I would also imagine every time a "banana boat" makes a call this is the practice, does anybody know that to be true?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 276 ✭✭Rocky Bay


    Alfa Germania off the southcoast as I type this. The Freja Hafnia which departed from Whiddy over two weeks ago and discharged in New Jersey a few days ago was laying off the N.J. coast. Last indications were that it was headed back into New York harbour, this morning A.I.S. indicates it is "out of range".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭bladebrew


    Rocky Bay wrote: »
    Last time I was in Ringaskiddy I don't recall noticing a container yard so I would imagine that there is a long line of artic's waiting for the boxes off the Esther Schulte. I would also imagine every time a "banana boat" makes a call this is the practice, does anybody know that to be true?

    I was wondering the same thing when the "banana" service started, it seems to be a very recent thing though,

    http://afloat.ie/port-news/port-of-cork/item/18877-port-of-cork-marks-expansion-of-ringaskiddy-container-facility

    this article is only from this week, it mentions the creation of a container storage area, so they must have had some spare room,
    how many containers are coming off at a time?, from reading bits on the internet they sound like a fecking nuisance to transport,
    i am assuming they all head to togher to be ripened?

    edit: sorry i answered a question with a question!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 276 ✭✭Rocky Bay


    The Orpheas joins the Alfa Germania in Bantry Bay. Is it first come, first served?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 276 ✭✭Rocky Bay


    bladebrew wrote: »
    I was wondering the same thing when the "banana" service started, it seems to be a very recent thing though,

    http://afloat.ie/port-news/port-of-cork/item/18877-port-of-cork-marks-expansion-of-ringaskiddy-container-facility

    this article is only from this week, it mentions the creation of a container storage area, so they must have had some spare room,
    how many containers are coming off at a time?, from reading bits on the internet they sound like a fecking nuisance to transport,
    i am assuming they all head to togher to be ripened?

    edit: sorry i answered a question with a question!
    I seem to remember a "banana call" at Ringaskiddy up until a few years ago, just can't remember the details. I wonder if anyone bothered to consider deepening the river and using Marino Point as a place to drop boxes. Marino Point is connected the the rail system, so many of those boxes could go "up the country" by rail to a certain point. ( I will leave the naming/shaming of the moron who decided to sever rail service into the Tivoli container terminal to another thread/discussion!)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    Rocky Bay wrote: »
    I seem to remember a "banana call" at Ringaskiddy up until a few years ago, just can't remember the details. I wonder if anyone bothered to consider deepening the river and using Marino Point as a place to drop boxes. Marino Point is connected the the rail system, so many of those boxes could go "up the country" by rail to a certain point. ( I will leave the naming/shaming of the moron who decided to sever rail service into the Tivoli container terminal to another thread/discussion!)

    Deepening the river? Pointless, while the low hanging ESB lines are there. It isn't the depth that's the issue, there's 17m of water below datum at Marino Point. Port of cork plan to use Marino Point as their new Bulk cargo Hub. Container hubs need to be as close to the open sea as possible. The turnaround is so short there is no advantage adding an hour transit time each end. It will just deter the lines from stopping there. That is one of the reasons Waterford(Bellevue) lost out.
    There is a rail link to Marino Point in the same way there is a rail link to tivoli. The line is still there, but Irish Rail are not doing TEU freight any more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭who the fug


    Rocky Bay wrote: »
    The Orpheas joins the Alfa Germania in Bantry Bay. Is it first come, first served?

    Orpheas wins


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 276 ✭✭Rocky Bay


    Orpheas wins
    Anybody know why? Alfa was first "on line". The Freja Hafnia has reappeared. It is laying up just north of the Verrazano Narrows bridge, just offshore of Staten Island in the "upper bay" of New York harbour. Still showing New York as its next destination. The Verrazano Narrows bridge connects the NYC boroughs of Brooklyn and Staten Island.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 276 ✭✭Rocky Bay


    Deepening the river? Pointless, while the low hanging ESB lines are there. It isn't the depth that's the issue, there's 17m of water below datum at Marino Point. Port of cork plan to use Marino Point as their new Bulk cargo Hub. Container hubs need to be as close to the open sea as possible. The turnaround is so short there is no advantage adding an hour transit time each end. It will just deter the lines from stopping there. That is one of the reasons Waterford(Bellevue) lost out.
    There is a rail link to Marino Point in the same way there is a rail link to tivoli. The line is still there, but Irish Rail are not doing TEU freight any more.
    I would think that the wires would not pose a problem, just raise the pylons on each side of the river. Would it actually take an additional hour to go to Marino Point as opposed to the DWB? On my last trip between Midleton and Cork on the train I could see the switch into Tivoli has been removed, this was well after reading about it some years ago. CIE is running container trains but only between two or three points-Mayo to Wexford or is it Waterford? Thanks for the news that Marino Point will be put to use, had no idea of that bulk port. In America there is a saying..."Keep on trucking ...by train" ( trailers and containers on railway flatcars as opposed to road movements.)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 276 ✭✭Rocky Bay


    Now for something a little tougher than observing tanker movements in and out of Bantry Bay.
    Does anybody know what happened to the Daunt lightship off of Roberts Cove?
    Does anybody know what happened to "Ship Ahoy" the column in the Echo by Peter Levy? I think it stopped appearing about ten years ago.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 276 ✭✭Rocky Bay


    Another tanker off the southcoast headed for Bantry, SCF Primorye.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 6,854 Mod ✭✭✭✭mp22


    Rocky Bay wrote: »
    Another tanker off the southcoast headed for Bantry, SCF Primorye.
    Its like O'Connell street in the rush hour here.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 276 ✭✭Rocky Bay


    mp22 wrote: »
    Its like O'Connell street in the rush hour here.
    Will all three load or are they unloading?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    Must be something happening with the Price of crude. Alfa Germania is due in Whitegate on the 7th,


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 6,854 Mod ✭✭✭✭mp22


    Rocky Bay wrote: »
    Will all three load or are they unloading?
    I dont know,I am going over to glengarrif in the morning so I will have a look and see.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 276 ✭✭Rocky Bay


    I doff my hat and send my compliments to Ray O' Donoghue for the picture he took yesterday in Bantry Bay of the Orpheas with the Alfa Germania in the background. Brilliant. Well done Ray, well done!!! Somehow, someway I am going to figure out how to make that picture my screensaver. And if I could also figure out how to put that picture on a T-shirt I would make a vast fortune, with royalties to Ray of course!


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 6,854 Mod ✭✭✭✭mp22


    Right click on the image-save as.go to where you save the image right click-set as desktop background.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    This one?
    showphoto.aspx?photoid=831826


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 276 ✭✭Rocky Bay


    Yes, that is THE one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭323


    Just looking at marine traffic for the west coast, Seen this heading to Killybegs in from Corrib.
    Got this photo when was up there last year when she was in.

    NormandSubsea_Killybegs.jpg

    “Follow the trend lines, not the headlines,”



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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 276 ✭✭Rocky Bay


    mp22 wrote: »
    Right click on the image-save as.go to where you save the image right click-set as desktop background.
    Thank You. It took a lot of clicks a couple of curses but now I have one of the most interesting desktop backgrounds where I work. When I get home I will try to do the laptop. Thanks again.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 276 ✭✭Rocky Bay


    In the event that anybody was wondering about the Freja Hafnia...it is now east of Sandy Hook, N.J. and south of Hampton Bays, N.Y. eastbound with New York still listed as its destination. At this stage New York is far behind it.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 6,854 Mod ✭✭✭✭mp22


    Alfa Germania came up onto the SPM to load.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    mp22 wrote: »
    Alfa Germania came up onto the SPM to load.

    Expected to go to anchor outside Cork harbour this evening. Meanwhile Rio Taku is this weeks "banana boat".(Formerly Maersk Nolanville).


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 276 ✭✭Rocky Bay


    Expected to go to anchor outside Cork harbour this evening. Meanwhile Rio Taku is this weeks "banana boat".(Formerly Maersk Nolanville).
    Is the SCF Primorve still in the bay? A.I.S. has not shown its location for two days and when I try to look it up, it shows "out of range". Perhaps its signal has be turned off. Been watching the "banana boat" since I got into work.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,827 ✭✭✭ex_infantry man


    clicked on the keriole just outside bantry says on location "anywhere but here" at least someone has a sense of humour, also two naval vessels L.E. Roisin L.E. Aoife anchored at spike island and L.E. Orla underway from cork harbour


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 276 ✭✭Rocky Bay


    I was poking around the Maersk website and found some information about the "banana boat" service. It is listed under "Central America and Caribbean Express" (CRX). The schedule published is for into early November.
    The calls are: Veracruz, Altamira, Port of Big Creek, Manzanillo, Puerto Moin, Puerto Limon, Cork, Tilbury, Rotterdam, Bremerhaven and St.Petersburg, PLP.
    The Ships are: Esther Schulte, Rio Taku, Ocean Promise, Nedlloyd Adriana, Maersk Nairobi, Anna Schulte, Maersk Norwich, Thelka Schulte and Marianne Schulte.
    This is all subject to change of course, not all voyages call at all ports. As an example Puerto Limon is called at only once, 10/6/12.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,827 ✭✭✭ex_infantry man


    was driving home from work and saw this beauty docked on the quay in waterford http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/showallphotos.aspx?imo=8903923


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭who the fug


    was driving home from work and saw this beauty docked on the quay in waterford http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/showallphotos.aspx?imo=8903923


    reminds one of the livestock trade


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,827 ✭✭✭ex_infantry man


    reminds one of the livestock trade
    haha very true that but the only difference is that this lot of "cattle" will dump a large amount of cash in waterford


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 276 ✭✭Rocky Bay


    SCF Primorve has departed Whiddy and is now on its way to Scotland, at least that is what its desination on A.I.S. indicates. Its seems to have sailed north between the Skelligs and the Kerry coast. I would think they would sail on the far side of the Skelligs and not so close to any land. Since I don't have "sealegs" it must be a normal course I imagine.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 276 ✭✭Rocky Bay


    Rather odd I thought, the Atlantic Compass sitting off the southwest coast of Dursey Island for the last few hours. I was always under the impression that ACL ships were held to a strict schedule with pressure to get to the next call.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    Could be ahead of schedule due to tailwind? Depending on where they are coming from they could gain half a day, and there may not be much room at lay by for a ship of their size.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 276 ✭✭Rocky Bay


    Could be ahead of schedule due to tailwind? Depending on where they are coming from they could gain half a day, and there may not be much room at lay by for a ship of their size.
    ...12 hours later she is still off the south coast, south of Hook Head as I type. Alfa Germania still outside Cork and the SCF Primorve still laying off Clare. I have a lot to learn about ship operations...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,827 ✭✭✭ex_infantry man


    Rocky Bay wrote: »
    ...12 hours later she is still off the south coast, south of Hook Head as I type. Alfa Germania still outside Cork and the SCF Primorve still laying off Clare. I have a lot to learn about ship operations...
    alfa germania is alongside whitegate now more than likely was waiting ahead of schedule to head in and unload


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,827 ✭✭✭ex_infantry man


    there's two tankers at whitegate alfa germania and B gas lotta and a third off the baltimore west cork forth fisher which is steaming for whitegate


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    The Fisher tankers are weekly visitors, and shuttle product between Wales, Dublin, Whitegate, Limerick and Galway.
    They are also equipped to cleanup oil spills at sea.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Excalibur jack up barge is currently sitting in the middle of Dublin Bay, anyone know what they are doing?

    5450644646_2276a523a4_z.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,700 ✭✭✭tricky D


    It seems to back for Round 2 of borehole drilling for the Ringsend Waste Water Treatment Programme.

    Round 1 last year : http://www.sail.ie/wp222/?p=508

    Afloat article from yesterday: http://afloat.ie/port-news/dun-laoghaire-news/item/18972-rig-returns-in-dublin-bay-not-for-oil-but-for-preliminary-sewage-pipeline-work

    And the NOTICE TO MARINERS: http://www.dublinport.ie/fileadmin/user_upload/documents/2012-15_Borehole_drilling_within_Dublin_Bay.pdf

    I'm a bit puzzled as I thought the Ringsend treatment works was doing tertiary treatment which should mean it's almost drinkable so wouldn't need to be discharged so far out (9 kms). That was the aspiration back in the day. Mind you that's going on what I remember from 1988 and the auld memory is rusty on this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,546 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    Alfa Germania is on the go again, it's on the way to the Hebredies.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 276 ✭✭Rocky Bay


    Alfa Germania is on the go again, it's on the way to the Hebredies.
    ...and the SCF Primorye is also on the move.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 6,854 Mod ✭✭✭✭mp22




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 276 ✭✭Rocky Bay


    ...as I type this the Nedlloyd Adriana approaches the Old Head of Kinsale, here is the "banana boat" schedule up until early November. All of course subject to change:
    28 Jun. Maersk Nairobi
    6 Jul. Anna Schulte
    13 Jul. Esther Schulte
    20 Jul. Thekla Schulte
    27 Jul. Ocean Promise
    3 Aug. Nedlloyd Adriana
    10 Aug. Marianne Schulte
    17 Aug. Maersk Norwich
    24 Aug. Maersk Nairobi
    31 Aug. Anna Schulte
    7 Sep. Esther Schulte
    14 Sep. Thekla Schulte
    21 Sep. Ocean promise
    28 Sep. Nedlloyd Adriana
    5 Oct. Marianne Schulte
    12 Oct. Maersk Norwich
    19 Oct. Maersk Nairobi
    26 Oct. Anna Schulte
    2 Nov. Esther Schulte


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭seanmacc


    Irish Ferries HSC Jonathan Swift arrived into Dublin approximatley 1 hour late (14:48) due to an engine failure which occured when the vessel attempted to depart Holyhead at 11:50.

    This type of technical issue is hitting this vessel a bit more regularly, maybe its time for an upgrade


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    Nice visitor to Cork Harbour at the moment.
    showphoto.aspx?photoid=854476

    Georg Stage, Danish 3 masted Tall Ship.


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