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Trump vs Biden 2020, Day 64 of the Pennsylvania count (pt 5) Read OP

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,112 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    And on that note, Trump is now threatening to defund the military if social media don't stop being mean to him - also inadvertently confirming his freak out tantrum over the 'diaperdon' tag, which if anything gives it more credibility.

    The military has given considerable support to police during the protests and riots. Defunding them would reduce the ability to respond go and control these. I expe t exactly zero Trump supporters to give even the remotest of ****s, unless of course they are vehemently defending it and now mysteriously become highly interested in the nuances of "defunding".

    The NDAA (National Defense Authorization Act) autorises military budgeting and expenditure, for anyone wondering.

    [url]Http://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/att/trump-using-military-funding-leverage-173401526.html[/url]

    Both Republicans and Democrats are just ignoring him on this , it's an empty temper tantrum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,078 ✭✭✭trashcan



    I particularly like the part where he says the electoral process is under siege. - yeah, from you Donnie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,078 ✭✭✭trashcan


    It actually wouldn't because it wouldn't make any sense. You need to look up the word "infer" in the dictionary, because you are using it incorrectly.

    Lots of people don’t understand the difference between imply and infer. He was inferring that you were implying it :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,329 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    .

    Panic setting in with the GOPers that some Republican voters will sit out the January senate runoffs in Georgia. :) Given the thin margins there it would only take a relatively small number to refuse to vote to swing both seats to the Dems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    everlast75 wrote: »

    Who is that idiot? That's the best they have to offer? Some conspiracy theorising drunk who's too dumb to realise she's arguing with another Reublican?

    Jesus, I cannot wait until January 20th... :rolleyes:


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,112 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    .

    Panic setting in with the GOPers that some Republican voters will sit out the January senate runoffs in Georgia. :)Given the thin margins there it would only take a relatively small number to refuse to vote to swing both seats to the Dems.

    That and the fact that Stacy Abrams is still registering new voters at a rate of knots.

    They are absolutely starting to panic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,885 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    It's telling that as the USA faces higher and higher cases and deaths from COVID, that the baby in chief insists that the most important thing happening right now is him losing an election.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,042 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    .

    Panic setting in with the GOPers that some Republican voters will sit out the January senate runoffs in Georgia. :) Given the thin margins there it would only take a relatively small number to refuse to vote to swing both seats to the Dems.
    I think they've really s rwwed themselves here, the same bad actors, troll farm accounts and foreign psy ops that they have been more than happy to stand by and benefit from for the last few years have made it exceptionally easy for these same voters to now be manipulated not to vote by those in the centre and on the left (posing as far right loons).

    Fanning the flames of lunacy in the days after the election as many such as Gingrich himself has, has made this Infinitely easier again.

    I'd bet they wish they had taken a different tack now, over the last month especially.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    astrofool wrote: »
    It's telling that as the USA faces higher and higher cases and deaths from COVID, that the baby in chief insists that the most important thing happening right now is him losing an election.

    He doesn't care about anyone or anything that doesn't affect/benefit him personally, that's why.

    More of his citizens died today than any day since the beginning of the virus and he still hasn't uttered a word of empathy, compassion, reassurement - nothing. Nada.

    Course he had plenty to say when he caught the virus, photo ops, speeches, Evita style balcony waving etc. because it was all about him.

    This man is the lowest form of narcissist - the sooner he disappears from public life, the better. He is an insult to his country.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    I think they've really s rwwed themselves here, the same bad actors, troll farm accounts and foreign psy ops that they have been more than happy to stand by and benefit from for the last few years have made it exceptionally easy for these same voters to now be manipulated not to vote by those in the centre and on the left (posing as far right loons).

    Fanning the flames of lunacy in the days after the election as many such as Gingrich himself has, has made this Infinitely easier again.

    I'd bet they wish they had taken a different tack now, over the last month especially.

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    there are 23000 people who were 17 on the date of the election who will be of voting age by the date of the run-off. In a state with small margins getting them registered could make a difference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,942 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    astrofool wrote:
    It's telling that as the USA faces higher and higher cases and deaths from COVID, that the baby in chief insists that the most important thing happening right now is him losing an election.
    Are you in the least bit surprised? He's always been about one man, the cretin that is Donald Trump.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,942 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    there are 23000 people who were 17 on the date of the election who will be of voting age by the date of the run-off. In a state with small margins getting them registered could make a difference.
    Biden has done a great job recently, he should be front and centre helping get them elected.
    He can come up with things he wants to do for the State and tell them that if they don't get the seats that the Republicans will block it from happening.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,768 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    trashcan wrote: »
    Lots of people don’t understand the difference between imply and infer. He was inferring that you were implying it :)

    It wasn't me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,940 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    He doesn't care about anyone or anything that doesn't affect/benefit him personally, that's why.

    More of his citizens died today than any day since the beginning of the virus and he still hasn't uttered a word of empathy, compassion, reassurement - nothing. Nada.

    Course he had plenty to say when he caught the virus, photo ops, speeches, Evita style balcony waving etc. because it was all about him.

    This man is the lowest form of narcissist - the sooner he disappears from public life, the better. He is an insult to his country.

    Agree with all of this.

    But and some of us having been saying this since before he was a nominee in 2016, and yet, 73M people still wanted this guy to continue as President. :eek::eek:

    Already I've seen 1 article about Ivanka's aspirations in this respect.
    As children we'd have read books or watched movies about evil overlords and their minions and generally they'd have got their comeuppance in a way that meant it was clear lessons had been learned.

    I'm fascinated at the number of examples of rhetoric espoused by Trump, his fans and his enablers in the GOP and the media. All of whom shouted like braying donkeys about what 'the Dems' were at.
    • Kept shouting 'Stop looking in to Russian collusion' after spending years talking about Benghazi.
    • Hillary couldn't accept defeat' She did, within 24 Hours, meanwhile what has gone on over the last month has been jawdropping.
    • Impeached Clinton because he lessoned the respect for the Office of the President as they refused to vote to find Trump guilty of trying to arrange a quid pro quo which he did on a telephone call.
    • The Fake News clarion call as Trump and Giuliani and Powell are just spouting absolute garbage while ignoring Trumps propensity for lying.
    • Lambasting Obama's handling of SARS while accepting no responsibility for Covid-19.
    • Calling Obama a 'Golfing President' when Trump has golfed more in 4 years than Obama did in 8.
    • Talking about draining the swamp and surrounding himself with criminals and family members.

    Don't even try to play the 'Both parties are as bad as each other' on this. The Democratic party is far from perfect but they're even in the same league as these spoofers. AOC is getting stick at the moment for selling a sweatshirt emblazoned with 'Tax the Rich' for $58. A sweatshirt made and printed in the USA with union represented workers. Trump fans are emblazoned in his MAGA message all with 'Made in China' labels.
    Which path is better for the American society?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,126 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Jesus. It's almost as if they don't give two sh1ts anymore

    https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti/status/1334591041400352770?s=19


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,078 ✭✭✭trashcan


    It wasn't me.

    No, I know it wasn’t. But you inferred that I was implying it was :p


  • Registered Users Posts: 592 ✭✭✭one world order


    Will be interesting to see which will be the first state to flip. Trump will be on 311 if he gets Pennsylvania (20) Michigan (16) Georgia (16) Wisconsin (10) Arizona (11) Nevada (6). All momentum is now firmly with Trump with 100k affidavits, graphs showing massive voter dumps, videos of hidden voter boxes opened after people told to leave, dead people voting, more votes than people on vote registry, same ballets scanned multiple times, head offices of dominion cleared out and their leaders including Eric Coomer on the run.

    Mod: Banned for (another) threadban breach


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Many of these states have already certified it for Biden, it's a done deal and momentum is most definitely not with Trump

    they all have


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,223 ✭✭✭✭briany


    I suggest to all those who want to see Trump in office that they begin backing him in his 2024 effort. This one is over. Done. Finito.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    briany wrote: »
    I suggest to all those who want to see Trump in office that they begin backing him in his 2024 effort. This one is over. Done. Finito.

    Trump has had many firsts. first to lose the popular vote twice for instance. Trump might have another first in 2024 as someone who is running for president while not being allowed to vote in the election because they are a convicted felon.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,391 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    I kind of miss arguing with the trump supporters in this thread.
    They’ve all disappeared.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭westdublin




    Skip to the 1 min mark to hear Rudy's plan, im guessing this wasn't very deep state :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,042 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    I kind of miss arguing with the trump supporters in this thread.
    They’ve all disappeared.
    In 18 months, most of them will be claiming to have never supported Trump, while eagerly supporting whichever grifter takes his place in tickling their warped, bigoted little fantasies.

    I would put the house on it, it's not like similar didn't happen following 2008.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,646 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    westdublin wrote: »


    Skip to the 1 min mark to hear Rudy's plan, im guessing this wasn't very deep state :)

    Between his hair dye streaming down his face and farting live on T.V he really is having a bad year :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,223 ✭✭✭✭briany


    In 18 months, most of them will be claiming to have never supported Trump, while eagerly supporting whichever grifter takes his place in tickling their warped, bigoted little fantasies.

    I would put the house on it, it's not like similar didn't happen following 2008.

    Have to think there are at least some Republicans who now think embracing the whole Tea Party movement wasn't such a great idea. It is directly out of that movement, and the naked populism spearheaded by Sarah Palin that the party now finds itself grappling a monster of a strength that could rend the party in two, and there'll be those who'll argue, even, that this schism has already been completed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,126 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    A good while back Cohen testified and told everyone watching that Trump will turn on you in an instant. He said with Trump, loyalty is a one way street. He said you will do everything for him, and yet he'll still throw you under the bus.

    https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1334565607522643969?s=19

    Imagine being Barr and realising now Michael ****ing Cohen is smarter than you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Between his hair dye streaming down his face and farting live on T.V he really is having a bad year :pac:

    Don't forget Borat 2. This has all been in the past 2 months.


  • Registered Users Posts: 881 ✭✭✭one armed dwarf


    But Outlaw Pete said that Bill Barr was a solid set of hands when it comes to rooting out corruption. I guess this means he isn't, or Trump is wrong or something


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,339 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    But Outlaw Pete said that Bill Barr was a solid set of hands when it comes to rooting out corruption. I guess this means he isn't, or Trump is wrong or something


    Haven't seen Outlaw Pete here for a long while. He's probably given his entire life savings to Trump so is unable to pay his Internet bills.


  • Registered Users Posts: 571 ✭✭✭rosser44


    PropJoe10 wrote: »
    Haven't seen Outlaw Pete here for a long while. He's probably given his entire life savings to Trump so is unable to pay his Internet bills.

    The way the rats are fleeing the sinking ship in the white house he might be the next comms director or AG! :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,400 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Right now Trump isn’t winning and the libs aren’t being owned so the context that normally supported Outlaw Pete’s posts isn’t available.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,942 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    LuckyLloyd wrote:
    Right now Trump isn’t winning and the libs aren’t being owned so the context that normally supported Outlaw Pete’s posts isn’t available.

    Who are these Liberals?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,126 ✭✭✭✭everlast75




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,493 ✭✭✭francois


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Who are these Liberals?

    Liberal seems to be a catch-all insult those of a far right disposition seem to think is some sort insult.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,400 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Who are these Liberals?

    I don’t know EE, you’ll have to ask Outlaw Pete should he return to these pastures.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,126 ✭✭✭✭everlast75




  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,112 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    everlast75 wrote: »

    The "Madness" was explicitly pre-planned by the GOP.

    They blocked efforts to allow early processing specifically to create these scenarios.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    everlast75 wrote: »
    A good while back Cohen testified and told everyone watching that Trump will turn on you in an instant. He said with Trump, loyalty is a one way street. He said you will do everything for him, and yet he'll still throw you under the bus.

    https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1334565607522643969?s=19

    Imagine being Barr and realising now Michael ****ing Cohen is smarter than you.
    Trump wrote:
    At 10 O Clock everybody said it was a big victory for trump

    You mean before they started counting the votes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,917 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Trump star witness at hearing yesterday says all Chinese people look alike and therefore there must have been fraud



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,126 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    I kind of miss arguing with the trump supporters in this thread.
    They’ve all disappeared.

    I would agree, with one alteration.

    I miss debating people who argued for Trump who had regard for the facts.

    Granted - this was v v early days, but still.

    I would go further to say that I would actually like to go for a pint* to discuss matters if they could argue in good faith.

    Unfortunately, anybody nowadays who still supports him would stand there, look you straight in the eye and tell you Trump is a genius who is playing 4 dimensional chess whilst accusing me of being a "libtard" who is just "triggered" because Trump is going to overturn the election.



    *after COVID - couldn't trust them to wear a mask


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,126 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    two quick things;

    1) Hannity opining on cases before the Court?? He's already parading around like a journalist, which he isn't. Now he's holding himself out to have a worthwhile opinion on law?

    2) Is it my imagination, or is Hannity looking a little bit more.... orange, lately?

    https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1334690955014770689?s=20


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,578 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Hannity sounds like he is intoxicated.

    Even beside Rudy who always sounds whacked out of his head.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    everlast75 wrote: »
    I would agree, with one alteration.

    I miss debating people who argued for Trump who had regard for the facts.

    Granted - this was v v early days, but still.

    I would go further to say that I would actually like to go for a pint* to discuss matters if they could argue in good faith.

    Unfortunately, anybody nowadays who still supports him would stand there, look you straight in the eye and tell you Trump is a genius who is playing 4 dimensional chess whilst accusing me of being a "libtard" who is just "triggered" because Trump is going to overturn the election.



    *after COVID - couldn't trust them to wear a mask

    you have a much longer memory than me because I dont remember anybody like that.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,112 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    everlast75 wrote: »
    two quick things;

    1) Hannity opining on cases before the Court?? He's already parading around like a journalist, which he isn't. Now he's holding himself out to have a worthwhile opinion on law?

    2) Is it my imagination, or is Hannity looking a little bit more.... orange, lately?

    https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1334690955014770689?s=20

    And yet not a peep out of them about the Investigations into the "Shadow" Candidates in House elections to help GOP candidates win.

    Or the Investigation into the Attorney who announced at a GOP meeting that he was temporarily moving to Georgia so he could vote in the run-offs and was actively encouraging others to do the same.

    You know , actual investigations with actual evidence and stuff..

    But it's in aid of the GOP so let's not mention it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,042 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    everlast75 wrote: »
    I would agree, with one alteration.

    I miss debating people who argued for Trump who had regard for the facts.

    Granted - this was v v early days, but still.
    They turned out to largely be arguing in bad faith - the anti drone crowd who immediately stopped caring when trunp took office, the people who insisted real unemployment should include those outside the labour market again until the day Trump came in, those arguing for the rust belt who continue to support him every bit as much despite feck all job creation in the fields they were so stubborn and insistent upon, and in and in the list goes.

    Anyone arguing in good faith jumped ship within 12-18 months as it became clear Trump stood for nothing they argued in his favour over. For the overwhelming majority of them, just just simply no longer cared... we will now see them begin to pretend to give a sh*t come late January, and they don't deserve to be treated as in good faith.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭WrenBoy


    They turned out to largely be arguing in bad faith - the anti drone crowd who immediately stopped caring when trunp took office, the people who insisted real unemployment should include those outside the labour market again until the day Trump came in, those arguing for the rust belt who continue to support him every bit as much despite feck all job creation in the fields they were so stubborn and insistent upon, and in and in the list goes.

    Anyone arguing in good faith jumped ship within 12-18 months as it became clear Trump stood for nothing they argued in his favour over. For the overwhelming majority of them, just just simply no longer cared... we will now see them begin to pretend to give a sh*t come late January, and they don't deserve to be treated as in good faith.

    Its a good tactic alright set up that anyone that has criticism of Biden during his term is a liar and arguing in bad faith because Trump. Good idea to set this up early.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    WrenBoy wrote: »
    Its a good tactic alright set up that anyone that has criticism of Biden during his term is a liar and arguing in bad faith because Trump. Good idea to set this up early.

    I'm not sure what post you thought you were replying to but it wasn't the one you actually replied to.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    everlast75 wrote: »
    A good while back Cohen testified and told everyone watching that Trump will turn on you in an instant. He said with Trump, loyalty is a one way street. He said you will do everything for him, and yet he'll still throw you under the bus.

    https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1334565607522643969?s=19

    Imagine being Barr and realising now Michael ****ing Cohen is smarter than you.

    Barr saying they turned up no evidence of wide-scale deceit and fraud. He appears to not deny fraud happened here during the election..

    The scale of the fraud would need to be vast to set aside this election result! Trump team has not handed over any such evidence.

    Barr not aiding your cause, then the game over realistically. Trump though will still not go quietly. Everyone bored now by his antics.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,942 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    The only question I have is if there's a long game at play here. I doubt it based on the history of the last four years but it still concerns me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,260 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    Trump star witness at hearing yesterday says all Chinese people look alike and therefore there must have been fraud

    And that's their argument, must have - no proof anywhere to be seen. I'm surprised they haven't wheeled our a black person to say that all rednecks look the same.


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