The Tipperary GAA (Club and Intercounty) Thread

16-12-2015 11:47pm #1

Thread open in the GAA forum for those who frequent it more. All welcome

Xenophile · 18-12-2015 10:46am

Congratulations on opening a Tipperary GAA Thread here, it was a mistake to limit it to 2016. As you leave yourself open to someone else opening a 2017 thread next October.

If it were possible to change the title and omit the year the thread would run for 10,000 posts just like all the other counties.

evolving tipperary · 19-12-2015 12:00am

This hurling business really doesn't matter that much does it....

[font=Arial, Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif]Tipperary goalkeeper talks about how a deep personal loss turned his world upside down two days before the 2011 All-Ireland senior hurling semi-final.[/font]

http://www.balls.ie/football/watch-chelsea-fan-singing-on-sky-sports/319750?utm_campaign=twitter&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitter

19-12-2015 12:03am

evolving tipperary wrote: »

This hurling business really doesn't matter that much does it....

[font=Arial, Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif]Tipperary goalkeeper talks about how a deep personal loss turned his world upside down two days before the 2011 All-Ireland senior hurling semi-final.[/font]

http://www.balls.ie/football/watch-chelsea-fan-singing-on-sky-sports/319750?utm_campaign=twitter&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitter

I read that in Cummins book alright. I've the utmost respect for that man. Worth noting he never lowered himself to the digs of Babs. Always criticised the situation and not the man

evolving tipperary · 19-12-2015 1:55am

Deleted User wrote: »

evolving tipperary wrote: »

This hurling business really doesn't matter that much does it....

[font=Arial, Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif]Tipperary goalkeeper talks about how a deep personal loss turned his world upside down two days before the 2011 All-Ireland senior hurling semi-final.[/font]

http://www.balls.ie/football/watch-chelsea-fan-singing-on-sky-sports/319750?utm_campaign=twitter&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitter

I read that in Cummins book alright. I've the utmost respect for that man. Worth noting he never lowered himself to the digs of Babs. Always criticised the situation and not the man

That is very true - that takes class.

evolving tipperary · 19-12-2015 1:56am

The budget is getting bigger - but we seem to be abe to pay the bills, for now. But, all it takes is one bad year...

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/tipperary-gaas-costs-pass-1m-but-board-remain-in-the-black-372209.html

digzy · 19-12-2015 9:14am

evolving tipperary wrote: »

The budget is getting bigger - but we seem to be abe to pay the bills, for now. But, all it takes is one bad year...

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/tipperary-gaas-costs-pass-1m-but-board-remain-in-the-black-372209.html

Would this be in line with other counties...looks like a huge amount to me.

Though we're one of the few counties along with Galway and cork who field teams competitive in both codes..

blackcard · 19-12-2015 12:50pm

digzy wrote: »

Would this be in line with other counties...looks like a huge amount to me.

Though we're one of the few counties along with Galway and cork who field teams competitive in both codes..

Dublin?

danganabu · 21-12-2015 4:56pm

digzy wrote: »

Though we're one of the few counties along with Galway and cork who field teams competitive in both codes..

Are we really though?

Bit of a myth to be honest, the reality is our footballers are a Division 3 team who have beaten no one of note in their province ( 2 wins in the last 6 years against Limerick and Waterford), yes we have enjoyed some great success underage but the reality is our seniors are as far from success as they have ever been, and that is not likely to change any time soon.

evolving tipperary · 21-12-2015 7:29pm

danganabu wrote: »

digzy wrote: »

Though we're one of the few counties along with Galway and cork who field teams competitive in both codes..

Are we really though?

Bit of a myth to be honest, the reality is our footballers are a Division 3 team who have beaten no one of note in their province ( 2 wins in the last 6 years against Limerick and Waterford), yes we have enjoyed some great success underage but the reality is our seniors are as far from success as they have ever been, and that is not likely to change any time soon.

I would qualify that by saying success is relative and compared to the doldrums Tipp Football was in...it's in a far better state now...

Commercials won their first Munster Senior Club title
- there is regular underage success, as in getting to finals and sometimes getting silverware,
-the senior Tipp footballers have taken some scalps in the last few years that they would never have gotten to play before. They're are definitely not as far away as they have ever been - do they have the budget, tradition, and current set up of kerry, dublin, tyrone, donegal and others - no. But, there's been huge improvements but they have had some serious set backs before this season has begun through losing players . And, you're right if success is just senior silverware then it will be a long time in coming...

digzy · 21-12-2015 8:59pm

danganabu wrote: »

Are we really though?

Bit of a myth to be honest, the reality is our footballers are a Division 3 team who have beaten no one of note in their province ( 2 wins in the last 6 years against Limerick and Waterford), yes we have enjoyed some great success underage but the reality is our seniors are as far from success as they have ever been, and that is not likely to change any time soon.

i'll qualify that by saying that if you split the football teams into 2 halves we'd just about be in the better half..

DEFTLEFTHAND · 22-12-2015 6:22pm

danganabu wrote: »

Are we really though?

Bit of a myth to be honest, the reality is our footballers are a Division 3 team who have beaten no one of note in their province ( 2 wins in the last 6 years against Limerick and Waterford), yes we have enjoyed some great success underage but the reality is our seniors are as far from success as they have ever been, and that is not likely to change any time soon.

They've beaten some decent sides and reached the last round of qualifiers ( last 12 in AI) a couple of years back. They've certainly come on quite a bit from the days of being a lower half of the table div 4 side and going out after two games in the championship every summer.

I agree with you though that to truly breakthrough they need to claim a championship win over one of the big two in Munster.

Boom__Boom · 22-12-2015 10:20pm

digzy wrote: »

Would this be in line with other counties...looks like a huge amount to me.

Though we're one of the few counties along with Galway and cork who field teams competitive in both codes..

Couple of other counties have released financial statements recently so it doesn't seem wildly out of line with figures from other counties.

Also it's not just the senior teams - U21, minor and junior teams can add a fair chunk especially if they go on a good way in their respective competitions. Some county (I think it's Limerick but not sure) were saying their expenses had increased because a high number of players had to have surgery in the one year.

Xenophile · 06-01-2016 7:17pm

Time we got behind Clonmel Commercials in their preparations for the quarter final with Ballyboden/St.Endas.

Or maybe they will just come in under the radar!

buggy beag · 06-01-2016 7:29pm

Any of ye heading to templemore sunday?im heading anyway looking forward to it now.hopefully weather wont be 2 bad.

danganabu · 07-01-2016 10:32am

buggy beag wrote: »

Any of ye heading to templemore sunday?im heading anyway looking forward to it now.hopefully weather wont be 2 bad.

Will it go ahead at all I wonder? Templemore is a wet field at the best of times.

buggy beag · 07-01-2016 10:42am

danganabu wrote:

Will it go ahead at all I wonder? Templemore is a wet field at the best of times.

Someone was saying during the weekend that it would be grand but alor of rain has falling since and probably more to come so its hard to know.any templemore lads on here that could tell us more?

buggy beag · 09-01-2016 10:47pm

Line up for tomorrows game as per programme:

1. Darren Gleeson, Portroe
2. Joe O’Dwyer, Killenaule
3. Michael Breen, Ballina
4. Conor O’Brien, Eire Óg Anacarthy
5. Willie Ryan, Clonakenny
6. John Meagher, Loughmore Castleiney
7. Padraic Maher, Thurles Sarsfields
8. Joe Gallagher, Kiladangan
9. Bill Maher, Kilsheelan-Kilcash
10. Dan McCormack, Borris-Ileigh
11. Patrick Maher, Lorrha Dorrha
12. Sean Curran, Mullinahone
13. Liam McGrath, Loughmore Castleiney
14. Conor Kenny, Borris-Ileigh
15. Adrian Ryan, Templederry
16. Darragh Mooney, Eire Óg Anacarthy
17. Cathal Barrett, Holycross Ballycahill
18. Michael Cahill, Thurles Sarsfields
19. Liam Ryan, Drom & Inch
20. Kieran Bergin, Killenaule
21. Daire Quinn, Nenagh Eire Óg
22. John O’Dwyer, Killenaule
23. Jason Forde, Silvermines
24. Kieran Morris, Moycarkey-Borris
25. Dylan Fitzell, Cashel King Cormacs

buggy beag · 10-01-2016 3:51pm

Tipp lead at ht 2 10 to 1 08

evolving tipperary · 11-01-2016 7:12pm

Brendan MAHER is in Australia playing cricket =

http://www.balls.ie/gaa/brendan-maher-the-toughest-trade/321233

Xenophile · 11-01-2016 7:21pm

Clonmel Commercials beat Tipperary in Thurles yesterday!

evolving tipperary · 14-01-2016 12:31am

Thoughts on Stakelum?

Nice guy, sound.

But, is he cut out for this?

evolving tipperary · 14-01-2016 12:32am

O'Mahony on life as a professional:

'[font=source-sans-pro, sans-serif]People think you just come out here and bulk up but it couldn't be more the opposite. They want lean athletes who can run. It's not rugby, you're not tumbling into lads every two seconds, you're trying to avoid the hits.[/font]
[font=source-sans-pro, sans-serif]Some people thought I was coming over here for a holiday and thought I'd be in looking at the Opera House and the Harbour Bridge every day of the week, but I haven't been into the city once.[/font]
[font=source-sans-pro, sans-serif]I've driven one road: the road to the club and then back home. All you do is [/font][font=source-sans-pro, sans-serif]train[/font][font=source-sans-pro, sans-serif]. You come home, you sleep, you eat, you train. It's a cliche but it's true and when you're not training, you're trying to recover.'[/font]

[font=source-sans-pro, sans-serif]http://www.balls.ie/gaa/colin-oriordan-reveals-the-harsh-lesson-he-learned-due-to-the-professionalism-of-the-afl/321477[/font]

Xenophile · 14-01-2016 8:38am

evolving tipperary wrote: »

O'Mahony on life as a professiona

I think you mean Colin O'Riordan.

evolving tipperary · 14-01-2016 10:58am

correct

danganabu · 14-01-2016 1:01pm

evolving tipperary wrote: »

Thoughts on Stakelum?

Nice guy, sound.

But, is he cut out for this?

Posted this on the 'other' Tipp thread ;

Just heard the same, and to be honesty am a little shocked, I don't recall him having any previous management roles ever apart from a brief stint with his own club a few years back which wasn't exactly earth shattering, but without knowing his exact role etc. we will reserve judgement. The management team was looking rather lob sided with ex-defenders so at least he is different in that regard.

evolving tipperary · 14-01-2016 7:24pm

danganabu wrote: »

evolving tipperary wrote: »

Thoughts on Stakelum?

Nice guy, sound.

But, is he cut out for this?

Posted this on the 'other' Tipp thread ;

Just heard the same, and to be honesty am a little shocked, I don't recall him having any previous management roles ever apart from a brief stint with his own club a few years back which wasn't exactly earth shattering, but without knowing his exact role etc. we will reserve judgement. The management team was looking rather lob sided with ex-defenders so at least he is different in that regard.

I'd agree. There's always room for a nice, even eccentric member of a backroom team to provide relief and humanity. But, I'd prefer someone like that to also be bringing a wealth of coaching talent... - I don't think Stakelum's career to date suggests that... - I'd like to see both Wiliam Maher and Liam Cahill as part of the senior set-up also. If we're serious about continuity and apprenticing future coaches why not do that...
And, if you're bringing in someone like Stakelum, why not someone like Mini Heffernan instead who has taken Nenagh to a few county finals playing a good brand of hurling...

danganabu · 15-01-2016 10:47am

evolving tipperary wrote: »

I'd agree. There's always room for a nice, even eccentric member of a backroom team to provide relief and humanity. But, I'd prefer someone like that to also be bringing a wealth of coaching talent... - I don't think Stakelum's career to date suggests that... - I'd like to see both Wiliam Maher and Liam Cahill as part of the senior set-up also. If we're serious about continuity and apprenticing future coaches why not do that...
And, if you're bringing in someone like Stakelum, why not someone like Mini Heffernan instead who has taken Nenagh to a few county finals playing a good brand of hurling...

Oh good god no, I doubt you would even get a Nenagh man to agree with that, a complete liabilty and Nenagh have gotten to those County Finals in spite of him as opposed to because of him.

Liam Cahill would never give up the Minor job to play a bit part and likewise William Maher has ambitions of some day landing the main job himself.

Both have had run ins with the county board, in particular Maher, but seems to be back somewhat in the good books again.

I would predict that William Maher and Eoin Kelly will be the next management team(both more that qualified and competent and they are brothers in law)

evolving tipperary · 15-01-2016 1:15pm

danganabu wrote: »

evolving tipperary wrote: »

I'd agree. There's always room for a nice, even eccentric member of a backroom team to provide relief and humanity. But, I'd prefer someone like that to also be bringing a wealth of coaching talent... - I don't think Stakelum's career to date suggests that... - I'd like to see both Wiliam Maher and Liam Cahill as part of the senior set-up also. If we're serious about continuity and apprenticing future coaches why not do that...
And, if you're bringing in someone like Stakelum, why not someone like Mini Heffernan instead who has taken Nenagh to a few county finals playing a good brand of hurling...

Oh good god no, I doubt you would even get a Nenagh man to agree with that, a complete liabilty and Nenagh have gotten to those County Finals in spite of him as opposed to because of him.

Liam Cahill would never give up the Minor job to play a bit part and likewise William Maher has ambitions of some day landing the main job himself.

Both have had run ins with the county board, in particular Maher, but seems to be back somewhat in the good books again.

I would predict that William Maher and Eoin Kelly will be the next management team(both more that qualified and competent and they are brothers in law)

I don't think they should have to give up their roles with the underage set up to be involved with the senior set up. The whole point was continuity - they could have some role with the seniors twice a month or something. Continuity is continuity - that way they can have an overview of the current set up and players - and go from there down the line.

I'd say Fanning would be ahead of the que of Maher and Kelly - not saying that's right. But, he seems to be being for the role. Has that bit more experience of the senior set up that both of those two...

What's wrong with Heffernan? Do you have any examples?

danganabu · 15-01-2016 1:44pm

evolving tipperary wrote: »

What's wrong with Heffernan? Do you have any examples?

Oh too many to mention, and I have first hand experience.

Two managers have left Nenagh in the past 4 years as a result of him. He's role in the Toomevara scrap this year was embarrassing, he roared personal abuse at an opponent two years ago who had lost a family member to suicide, and did something similar to a Templederry player last year although not as personal.

There have been numerous incidents down the years during his involvement with Nenagh Vocational school as well.

Not being smart at all and maybe from the outside the results are impressive (don't actually think they are myself considering the talent produced) but there is less than a zero chance of him being involved with Tipp, there is a very substantial number of people involved in the Nenagh club who want him out and if it weren't for Tommy, Michael and Barry he would be gone long ago.

Xenophile · 15-01-2016 2:43pm

danganabu wrote: »

he roared personal abuse at an opponent two years ago who had lost a family member to suicide

If this is true he should be banned for life, even as a spectator at all GAA matches!

danganabu · 15-01-2016 3:03pm

Xenophile wrote: »

If this is true he should be banned for life, even as a spectator at all GAA matches!

I was standing no more than 10 yards away and my father, who is not a young man, had to physically hold me back until I calmed down, it 100% happened.

evolving tipperary · 15-01-2016 3:33pm

danganabu wrote: »

evolving tipperary wrote: »

What's wrong with Heffernan? Do you have any examples?

Oh too many to mention, and I have first hand experience.

Two managers have left Nenagh in the past 4 years as a result of him. He's role in the Toomevara scrap this year was embarrassing, he roared personal abuse at an opponent two years ago who had lost a family member to suicide, and did something similar to a Templederry player last year although not as personal.

There have been numerous incidents down the years during his involvement with Nenagh Vocational school as well.

Not being smart at all and maybe from the outside the results are impressive (don't actually think they are myself considering the talent produced) but there is less than a zero chance of him being involved with Tipp, there is a very substantial number of people involved in the Nenagh club who want him out and if it weren't for Tommy, Michael and Barry he would be gone long ago.

Just putting this out there, maybe....just maybe... to play devil's advocate....that's the hard edge, win-at-all-costs attitude, we're missing?

I don't think Nenagh are particularly talented - as fast skillful players....yes - but - in particular they lack physical players in the forwards - and all over the field they lack ball winners really - he produced a game plan in my eyes that got the best out of them...

danganabu · 15-01-2016 3:54pm

evolving tipperary wrote: »

Just putting this out there, maybe....just maybe... to play devil's advocate....that's the hard edge, win-at-all-costs attitude, we're missing?

I don't think Nenagh are particularly talented - as fast skillful players....yes - but - in particular they lack physical players in the forwards - and all over the field they lack ball winners really - he produced a game plan in my eyes that got the best out of them...

Regarding the talent, I was really just going on the talent that they produce under age, before this year they had won 11 minor titles in a row ( guess who stoped them

:D) and basically reaped nothing from it, one single county title in the clubs history for a club their size is a shocking under achievement.

I would argue that game plan was in place well before Minny got the reigns, he had no meaningful input under the previous managers, they haven't actually won anything either and were beaten in 4 championship matches last year.

evolving tipperary · 15-01-2016 5:24pm

danganabu wrote: »

evolving tipperary wrote: »

Just putting this out there, maybe....just maybe... to play devil's advocate....that's the hard edge, win-at-all-costs attitude, we're missing?

I don't think Nenagh are particularly talented - as fast skillful players....yes - but - in particular they lack physical players in the forwards - and all over the field they lack ball winners really - he produced a game plan in my eyes that got the best out of them...

Regarding the talent, I was really just going on the talent that they produce under age, before this year they had won 11 minor titles in a row ( guess who stoped them :D) and basically reaped nothing from it, one single county title in the clubs history for a club their size is a shocking under achievement.

I would argue that game plan was in place well before Minny got the reigns, he had no meaningful input under the previous managers, they haven't actually won anything either and were beaten in 4 championship matches last year.

But, have the county final numerous times...
Previous managers were disasterous?

danganabu · 15-01-2016 6:00pm

evolving tipperary wrote: »

But, have the county final numerous times...

Not under Minnie they haven't, 2013 was under the management of Sean Tracey and last year was the only other one they got to since about 10 years ago when they sh*t the load against Toom and Johnno beat then on his own. Minnie had nothing to do with that team either.

evolving tipperary · 15-01-2016 6:14pm

Last year the got beat by Thurles by a point in the quarters...

Minnie's been involved for three years...at least

Knocked out by a point each year...

danganabu · 15-01-2016 6:25pm

evolving tipperary wrote: »

Last year the got beat by Thurles by a point in the quarters...

Minnie's been involved for three years...at least

Knocked out by a point each year...

Minnie has been involved for 7 or 8 years, its just most of the time he was no more than the kit man!

Nenagh will always do well against the likes of Thurles, who are basically a better version of Nenagh, skillfull, easy on the eye, lots of talent on paper but ultimately flatter to deceive.

You're obviously a fan and we are not going to agree, but I absolutely guarantee he will never have anything to do with Tipp, under any circumstances.

evolving tipperary · 15-01-2016 9:46pm

danganabu wrote: »

evolving tipperary wrote: »

Last year the got beat by Thurles by a point in the quarters...

Minnie's been involved for three years...at least

Knocked out by a point each year...

Minnie has been involved for 7 or 8 years, its just most of the time he was no more than the kit man!

Nenagh will always do well against the likes of Thurles, who are basically a better version of Nenagh, skillfull, easy on the eye, lots of talent on paper but ultimately flatter to deceive.

You're obviously a fan and we are not going to agree, but I absolutely guarantee he will never have anything to do with Tipp, under any circumstances.

I'm not a fan necessarily... - he's produced three sons who can hurl to a massive level...whatever that means - I'm just putting his credentials on the table in comparison to Stakelum who has been given a role...
I wouldn't downgrade Nenagh either - they've been closer, than Toome and lots of other clubs, to Drom, Thurles and Loughmore over the years - so they are a top club in Tipp even if they don't have the silverware to back it up - they're doing something right...

Plus, they're a young side with a sprinkling of veterans...

I'm trying to get my head around Stakelum as opposed to others on the scene...

evolving tipperary · 17-01-2016 6:11pm

[font=Arial, sans-serif]TipperaryGAA[/font][font=Arial, sans-serif] 0-14 [/font][font=Arial, sans-serif]@cbsthurles[/font][font=Arial, sans-serif] 1-7 FT.[/font]

evolving tipperary · 17-01-2016 8:53pm

Maybe, Michael Ryan is on the ball:

http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2016/0117/760884-cats-legend-calls-for-pre-season-changes/

Xenophile · 18-01-2016 10:09am

Tributes flood in for former Tipp hurling star

18 Jan, 2016

Tributes are being paid to former Tipp hurler Billy Quinn who has passed away.
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The Rossestown native won 2 All Irelands and 3 Munster minor medals with the Premier County in the 1950s.

He was also captain of the Tipp minors when they won back-to-back Munster and All Ireland titles while Billy also won Croke Cup, Dean Ryan and Harty Cup medals with Thurles C.B.S.

His son Niall had a very successful career as an International soccer player with Ireland.

80 year old Billy Quinn is survived by his wife Mary, son Niall and daughters Geri, Rosaleen and Anne-Marie.

He will be laid to rest in Ballinure following funeral mass tomorrow in St Mary’s Church, Killenaule.

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buggy beag · 20-01-2016 1:57pm

Richie power has retired.always hated the ed sheeran fanta head on him but the man was a serious hurler and more than a thorn in our sides.could win his own ball and had pace to burn and wonderfully skillful.hopfully his injurys dont affect him to badly in later life.

buggy beag · 21-01-2016 6:54pm

Tipperary v mary i college this sunday at 2pm in boherlahann

evolving tipperary · 21-01-2016 7:15pm

buggy beag wrote: »

Richie power has retired.always hated the ed sheeran fanta head on him but the man was a serious hurler and more than a thorn in our sides.could win his own ball and had pace to burn and wonderfully skillful.hopfully his injurys dont affect him to badly in later life.

He was a top top player. One of the best hurlers to watch

buggy beag · 21-01-2016 11:06pm

evolving tipperary wrote:

He was a top top player. One of the best hurlers to watch

Yep pain in the left one but he had it all.pace,power,skill and an eye for goal.hopefully the knees dont affect him to much in later life.

Xenophile · 23-01-2016 12:35am

Live on TG4...................................Saturday 13th.February.

LIVE - Ballyboden St Endas (Dublin) v Clonmel Commercials (Tipperary), O’Moore Park, Portlaoise, at 4:30pm

evolving tipperary · 24-01-2016 3:18pm

Two late changes for Tipperary v Mary I- Daire Quinn and Andrew Coffey for Willie Ryan and Steven O’Brien

TippSH v Mary I–Hogan;Cahill,Hamill,ODwyer; WRyan,Heffernan,Br Maher; Breen,Fitzelle; SOBrien,Bonner,Morris; LMcGrath,Kenny,JMcGrath

evolving tipperary · 24-01-2016 3:18pm

Two late changes for Tipperary v Mary I- Daire Quinn and Andrew Coffey for Willie Ryan and Steven O’Brien

TippSH v Mary I–Hogan;Cahill,Hamill,ODwyer; WRyan,Heffernan,Br Maher; Breen,Fitzelle; SOBrien,Bonner,Morris; LMcGrath,Kenny,JMcGrath

evolving tipperary · 24-01-2016 6:55pm

Tipperary 7-29
Mary Immaculate College 0-6

Scorers for Tipperary: John McGrath 1-7 (0-4f), Conor Kenny 2-2, Patrick Maher 2-1, Kieran Morris 1-3, Noel McGrath 1-1, Dylan Fitzell, Liam McGrath & Andrew Coffey 0-3 each, Jason Forde 0-2, Brendan Maher, Michael Breen, Dan McCormack, Daire Quinn 0-1 each.

evolving tipperary · 24-01-2016 6:56pm

Tipperary 7-29
Mary Immaculate College 0-6

Scorers for Tipperary: John McGrath 1-7 (0-4f), Conor Kenny 2-2, Patrick Maher 2-1, Kieran Morris 1-3, Noel McGrath 1-1, Dylan Fitzell, Liam McGrath & Andrew Coffey 0-3 each, Jason Forde 0-2, Brendan Maher, Michael Breen, Dan McCormack, Daire Quinn 0-1 each.

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