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Second Captains Part II

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  • #52
    Brock Turnpike
    Registered Users Posts: 3,758 ✭✭✭Brock Turnpike


    Did anyone else have the Ken faffing around looking for stuff, and asking the lads if they could still hear him at the 36 mins mark on the show yesterday? Obviously should've been edited out.


  • #53
    Seamy Fitz
    Registered Users Posts: 49 ✭Seamy Fitz


    Brock Turnpike wrote: »
    Did anyone else have the Ken faffing around looking for stuff, and asking the lads if they could still hear him at the 36 mins mark on the show yesterday? Obviously should've been edited out.

    Yeah. First time I’ve ever remembered that happening on SC. Which is good going!

    They’ve just got that bit better quality ..... It might be a nob end in the.....


  • #54
    sheroman01
    Registered Users Posts: 4,685 ✭✭✭sheroman01


    Brock Turnpike wrote: »
    Did anyone else have the Ken faffing around looking for stuff, and asking the lads if they could still hear him at the 36 mins mark on the show yesterday? Obviously should've been edited out.

    Is it possible that they left that bit in? I found it interesting and funny. I laughed when Ken was like "....hello?". People seemed to like his sound effects when doing his David Silva research, so maybe this was an insight into the real sound effects of Ken's research :pac:


  • #55
    jaykay74
    Registered Users Posts: 6,586 ✭✭✭jaykay74


    Ken on Lampard and his use of a whatsapp group for his coaches yesterday. Great stuff :pac::D


  • #56
    sheroman01
    Registered Users Posts: 4,685 ✭✭✭sheroman01


    jaykay74 wrote: »
    Ken on Lampard and his use of a whatsapp group for his coaches yesterday. Great stuff :pac::D

    I found that extremely nitpicky. I’m sure plenty of managers/staff have WhatsApp groups. I prefer their obsession over David Silva than Lampard!


  • #57
    franglan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭franglan


    On the Arsenal job losses heard on the price of football which is arguably a better podcast than Second Captains (cheep shot, cheep shot!!!) that winning the FA cup is actually costing Arsenal over 9 million pounds in bonuses, non wage reductions due to winning a cup, etc. Still no excuse for those reducancies in the cafe or groundsmen etc.


  • #58
    Brock Turnpike
    Registered Users Posts: 3,758 ✭✭✭Brock Turnpike


    sheroman01 wrote: »
    I found that extremely nitpicky. I’m sure plenty of managers/staff have WhatsApp groups. I prefer their obsession over David Silva than Lampard!

    He wasn't criticising Lampard for it. He was taking the piss out of how it was being reported as some innovative approach.


  • #59
    Ivefoundgod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭Ivefoundgod


    sheroman01 wrote: »
    I found that extremely nitpicky. I’m sure plenty of managers/staff have WhatsApp groups. I prefer their obsession over David Silva than Lampard!

    I think thats exactly the point they were making? That surely almost every club has a whatsapp group yet some in the media are praising Lampard as if this is some revolutionary new idea that Frank came up with as apposed to standard practice in most clubs for years now.


  • #60
    sheroman01
    Registered Users Posts: 4,685 ✭✭✭sheroman01


    Ivefoundgod wrote: »
    I think thats exactly the point they were making? That surely almost every club has a whatsapp group yet some in the media are praising Lampard as if this is some revolutionary new idea that Frank came up with as apposed to standard practice in most clubs for years now.

    Ah, my bad! I completely missed the point so, I thought the whole sarcasm was being directed at Frank rather than the journalist.


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  • #61
    Seamy Fitz
    Registered Users Posts: 49 ✭Seamy Fitz


    sheroman01 wrote: »
    Ah, my bad! I completely missed the point so, I thought the whole sarcasm was being directed at Frank rather than the journalist.

    What the Frank! Ken is obsessed.

    You’re not completely missing the point. I think the journalist is getting this managerial gold from Lampards Media People. So Kens sardonic comments are about Lampard effectively.


  • #62
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,651 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Ken reading out excerpts from that laughable Lampard article made me very glad that I cancelled my athletic subscription.


  • #63
    Brock Turnpike
    Registered Users Posts: 3,758 ✭✭✭Brock Turnpike


    Arghus wrote: »
    Ken reading out excerpts from that laughable Lampard article made me very glad that I cancelled my athletic subscription.

    Same here. I found a large amount of their pieces to be like that. Wasn't a fan at all


  • #64
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,651 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Brock Turnpike wrote: »
    Same here. I found a large amount of their pieces to be like that. Wasn't a fan at all

    Maybe worth it if you followed American sports, maybe. There just wasn't enough football content there to shell out a tenner a month for me.


  • #65
    Still Ill
    Registered Users Posts: 1,438 ✭✭✭Still Ill


    I got the yearly subscription for $30 last year. Just about to run out now. It's great if you have the time to sit down and read a few articles. They're usually pretty lengthy though. I'll renew if I get a similar deal again. There seems to always be offers so you'd be mad to pay full whack. Think I actually have five free 30 day passes on my account so if anyone wants one send me a PM with your phone number/email and I'll try pass it on. I don't get anything from it btw, just rather give them to someone than have them go to waste.


  • #66
    Obrieski
    Registered Users Posts: 457 ✭✭Obrieski


    Thought the Jamie Wall char was excellent. A very rough story but he is certainly remaining positive. Not sure my mindset would be quite so positive, fair play to him!


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  • #67
    Obrieski
    Registered Users Posts: 457 ✭✭Obrieski


    First clip of the George Gibney series on the SC instagram and twitter pages. Looks like the makings of an excellent, informative documentary


  • #68
    deisedude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,922 ✭✭✭deisedude


    Obrieski wrote: »
    Thought the Jamie Wall char was excellent. A very rough story but he is certainly remaining positive. Not sure my mindset would be quite so positive, fair play to him!

    I remember seeing him in a club hurling game 10 years ago and the lad had serious talent. Bursting with pace and well able to take a score. Think he got 4 points that day. He had the potential to make it as a Cork senior hurler and by all accounts he was a better footballer


  • #69
    Hippo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,880 ✭✭✭Hippo


    Obrieski wrote: »
    Thought the Jamie Wall char was excellent. A very rough story but he is certainly remaining positive. Not sure my mindset would be quite so positive, fair play to him!

    Eoin once again demonstrating his mastery of the sensitive interview, the recent Racheal Denhollander one was another great example. There's no-one better.


  • #70
    sheroman01
    Registered Users Posts: 4,685 ✭✭✭sheroman01


    Obrieski wrote: »
    First clip of the George Gibney series on the SC instagram and twitter pages. Looks like the makings of an excellent, informative documentary

    Don't know much about it but really looking forward to it.

    They talked about it on the Sunday Review on Off The Ball a few weeks ago. Joe Molloy was just saying how it sounds great etc, but the guest on the day went on about he loved the Second Captains and how he was raging and upset when they left Newstalk, sounded like he thought they were unfairly treated. Molloy was fairly quiet after that and just moved onto the other guest. Found it a bit funny :pac:


  • #71
    healy1835
    Registered Users Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭healy1835


    sheroman01 wrote: »
    Don't know much about it but really looking forward to it.

    They talked about it on the Sunday Review on Off The Ball a few weeks ago. Joe Molloy was just saying how it sounds great etc, but the guest on the day went on about he loved the Second Captains and how he was raging and upset when they left Newstalk, sounded like he thought they were unfairly treated. Molloy was fairly quiet after that and just moved onto the other guest. Found it a bit funny :pac:

    I think it's fairly common knowledge that the SC lads and the management in Newstalk left on pretty bad terms and they'd be personae non grata around those parts. I had a chuckle listening to that review alright, think it was Shane Keegan who was the guest.


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  • #72
    jaykay74
    Registered Users Posts: 6,586 ✭✭✭jaykay74


    JW and Ken with a decent chat about Pirlo today. The ins and out of who is right doesn't matter. Ken being incredulous at the dismissal of Pirlo was good craic.


  • #73
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,523 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Obrieski wrote: »
    First clip of the George Gibney series on the SC instagram and twitter pages. Looks like the makings of an excellent, informative documentary

    Podcast subscription linky

    https://podcasts.files.bbci.co.uk/p08njhrm.rss

    Scrap the cap!



  • #74
    Arghus
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    JW out contrarianing Ken yesterday was quite entertaining.


  • #75
    Beersmith
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    Could have done with a bonus weekend episode. Too much to talk about on Monday.


  • #76
    Smell the glove
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,811 ✭✭✭Smell the glove


    Beersmith wrote: »
    Could have done with a bonus weekend episode. Too much to talk about on Monday.

    Monday episodes are always the worst. Ken talks for 40 mins about the football (normally mainly one story) then they have someone on to talk for a half hour about the exact same thing Ken has spent the whole episode talking about.


  • #77
    DukeCaboom
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    Smell the glove wrote: »
    Monday episodes are always the worst. Ken talks for 40 mins about the football (normally mainly one story) then they have someone on to talk for a half hour about the exact same thing Ken has spent the whole episode talking about.

    And its already what's he has said in that days paper.


  • #78
    Jim Root
    Registered Users Posts: 487 ✭✭Jim Root


    Ah, surely he will be on top form tommorow having called the Barcelona massacre in advance? I’m looking forward to it


  • #79
    humberklog
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,580 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    I can hear new Giles audio bed already.

    Over on The Stand with Dunphy they had a pop and a laugh at Ken... "he mustn't know much about football". They didn't mention Ken by name, didn't need to.


  • #80
    EltonJohn69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,492 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    humberklog wrote: »
    I can hear new Giles audio bed already.

    Over on The Stand with Dunphy they had a pop and a laugh at Ken... "he mustn't know much about football". They didn't mention Ken by name, didn't need to.

    The stand is a vipers nest.


  • #81
    humberklog
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,580 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    EltonJohn69 wrote: »
    The stand is a vipers nest.

    Can be. It sounded like a set up between Dunphy and Giles too.


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  • #82
    cmac2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭cmac2009


    humberklog wrote: »
    I can hear new Giles audio bed already.

    Over on The Stand with Dunphy they had a pop and a laugh at Ken... "he mustn't know much about football". They didn't mention Ken by name, didn't need to.

    What was the context of the conversation?


  • #83
    humberklog
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,580 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    cmac2009 wrote: »
    What was the context of the conversation?

    Dunphy saying a certain Irish journalist's headline is "Barca's problem is Messi".


  • #84
    duffman13
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,025 ✭✭✭duffman13


    https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2020/0817/1159664-silva-statue-planned-for-the-etihad/

    City going for a David Silva love in, id say this might please Ken :D

    Whats the stand like, worth a listen? Liked Dunphy in the past but Giles is struggling a bit in recent years


  • #85
    cmac2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭cmac2009


    duffman13 wrote: »
    https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2020/0817/1159664-silva-statue-planned-for-the-etihad/

    City going for a David Silva love in, id say this might please Ken :D

    Whats the stand like, worth a listen? Liked Dunphy in the past but Giles is struggling a bit in recent years

    Struggling a bit! You're being very kind there :)


  • #86
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,651 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    duffman13 wrote: »
    https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2020/0817/1159664-silva-statue-planned-for-the-etihad/

    City going for a David Silva love in, id say this might please Ken :D

    Whats the stand like, worth a listen? Liked Dunphy in the past but Giles is struggling a bit in recent years

    It can be really good depending on who he has on. Niall Stanage on American politics and Chris Johns on economics are really good. The quality of the contributor determines the quality of the show. Unfortunately he gets a lot of absolute headbangers on there too and Dunphy is such an inveterate hole licker to whoever he is talking too that he never challenges any wacky opinion.

    I haven't listened to it too much when he has the boys talking about football. I love Johnny Giles, he was my favourite pundit for a long, long time and he was still more than decent for a long time after people said he was past it, but I do think he is legitimately past it now. His stories about the past are fantastic, but he's well out of touch with today at this stage.


  • #87
    [Deleted User]
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    Arghus wrote: »
    It can be really good depending on who he has on. Niall Stanage on American politics and Chris Johns on economics are really good. The quality of the contributor determines the quality of the show. Unfortunately he gets a lot of absolute headbangers on there too and Dunphy is such an inveterate hole licker to whoever he is talking too that he never challenges any wacky opinion.

    I haven't listened to it too much when he has the boys talking about football. I love Johnny Giles, he was my favourite pundit for a long, long time and he was still more than decent for a long time after people said he was past it, but I do think he is legitimately past it now. His stories about the past are fantastic, but he's well out of touch with today at this stage.

    He’s gone fairly scorpy in his old age too. He was never all that cheery but he’s sour as a bag of lemons these days.


  • #88
    CatFromHue
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    humberklog wrote: »
    Dunphy saying a certain Irish journalist's headline is "Barca's problem is Messi".

    At the end of the day Ken's not a football people


  • #89
    Ol' Donie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,674 ✭✭✭✭Ol' Donie


    Arghus wrote: »
    It can be really good depending on who he has on. Niall Stanage on American politics and Chris Johns on economics are really good. The quality of the contributor determines the quality of the show. Unfortunately he gets a lot of absolute headbangers on there too and Dunphy is such an inveterate hole licker to whoever he is talking too that he never challenges any wacky opinion.

    I haven't listened to it too much when he has the boys talking about football. I love Johnny Giles, he was my favourite pundit for a long, long time and he was still more than decent for a long time after people said he was past it, but I do think he is legitimately past it now. His stories about the past are fantastic, but he's well out of touch with today at this stage.

    I just like to hear Giles talking about football, to be honest. I don't mind if it's not that insightful (I would argue most pundits are not especially insightful). I just like to hear what he thinks. It's the only thing on Off The Ball I regularly listen to these days

    I quite like The Stand, but I don't listen if it's a topic I'm not interested in (which is reasonably common).


  • #90
    kilns
    Registered Users Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    Jim Root wrote: »
    Ah, surely he will be on top form tommorow having called the Barcelona massacre in advance? I’m looking forward to it

    Was looking forward to it too but then realized Eoin was not presenting and they will have bloody Miguel Delaney on


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  • #91
    Beersmith
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    kilns wrote: »
    Was looking forward to it too but then realized Eoin was not presenting and they will have bloody Miguel Delaney on

    Yeah it wasn't a good episode at all. Ken went off on strange tangents about messi inspiring other younger players via TV and mobile phones. Seemed like 4 or 4 half points balled up together and Murph didn't reel him in like Eoin would have. RH on again and he was good.


  • #92
    al87987
    Registered Users Posts: 705 ✭✭✭al87987


    The messi take was a weird one alright, thought he might have gone after him for his poor recent record in the champions league.

    RH is always good. Him, Tim Vickery and Jonathan Wilson would be my favourites.


  • #93
    MercuryBoy
    Registered Users Posts: 121 ✭✭MercuryBoy


    Is Miguel Delaney to Pochettino what Duncan Castles is to Jose Mourinho? i.e a paid cheerleader?

    In the last few weeks Delaney has "linked" Pochettino to the jobs at Juve and Barca, only for them to give the job to someone else a few hours later..fairly lame


  • #94
    jaykay74
    Registered Users Posts: 6,586 ✭✭✭jaykay74


    Todays pod should be good :D
    Ep 1836: Football Men Take Aim At Ken Again......

    giles-ken-copy.jpeg


  • #95
    Say Your Number
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,795 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number


    Ken and Giles did seem to agree that Messi playing that way for Munich wouldn't be a problem.


  • #96
    kilns
    Registered Users Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    MercuryBoy wrote: »
    Is Miguel Delaney to Pochettino what Duncan Castles is to Jose Mourinho? i.e a paid cheerleader?

    In the last few weeks Delaney has "linked" Pochettino to the jobs at Juve and Barca, only for them to give the job to someone else a few hours later..fairly lame

    No he is just a terrible journalist


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  • #97
    Hippo
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    Beersmith wrote: »
    Yeah it wasn't a good episode at all. Ken went off on strange tangents about messi inspiring other younger players via TV and mobile phones. Seemed like 4 or 4 half points balled up together and Murph didn't reel him in like Eoin would have. RH on again and he was good.

    RH? Surely you mean 'Raffi'.


  • #98
    Arghus
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    Say Your Number wrote: »
    Ken and Giles did seem to agree that Messi playing that way for Munich wouldn't be a problem.

    I'm sure he agrees with plenty.


  • #99
    Say Your Number
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,795 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number


    Arghus wrote: »
    I'm sure he agrees with plenty.

    I'm sure if you showed Giles some of Ken's articles without a name attached, he probably would agree with a fair amount of what he has to say, I'd love to know what Ken said when they met to get that level of disdain anytime his name gets mentioned by Dunphy.


  • #100
    duffman13
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    Arghus wrote: »
    I'm sure he agrees with plenty.

    He just took the headline and said I wouldn't agree with anything then he actually says fairly similar things to what Ken said in the article. Enjoyable pod today, I usually miss Eoin but Ciaran did well today. RH is brilliant, loved the story about him correcting Kens grammar


  • #101
    Brock Turnpike
    Registered Users Posts: 3,758 ✭✭✭Brock Turnpike


    Hippo wrote: »
    RH? Surely you mean 'Raffi'.

    Was ready to put my fist through the phone with him saying that. I'd say RH can't stand him.


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