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Machinery Photo/Discussion Thread II

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    #1382
    NcdJd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭NcdJd


    Mooooo wrote: »
    I wonder did the pin come out between the break pedals maybe and only breaked one side going into the turn?

    Or the side breaks weren't locked at all 😳


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    #1383
    timple23
    Registered Users Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭timple23


    Maybe track rod broke? Front left wheel looks like driver is trying to countersteer. Seems to be sliding before they hit the grass verge.


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    #1384
    Panch18
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭Panch18


    I reckon it's mechanical failure on the part of the JD, those back brakes are locked up way before it goes over


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    #1385
    mythos110
    Registered Users Posts: 223 ✭✭mythos110


    Panch18 wrote: »
    I reckon it's mechanical failure on the part of the JD, those back brakes are locked up way before it goes over

    Very much doubt it was a mechanical failure but possibly the brakes were not locked as a previous poster says. Looks like a very smooth surface coupled with being wet meant no grip hence the lock up. Loader up to the last a contributing factor here as well (I can never understand why lads do that). Went into a 4 wheel skid (assuming JD's 4-wheel brake).
    Best course of action would have been to release the brakes and hit the accelerator and try to keep going straight. This would be second nature to most operators who operate on high or slippy ground but not so easy to react to if you are not used to that situation.


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    #1386
    Panch18
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭Panch18


    mythos110 wrote: »
    Very much doubt it was a mechanical failure but possibly the brakes were not locked as a previous poster says. Looks like a very smooth surface coupled with being wet meant no grip hence the lock up. Loader up to the last a contributing factor here as well (I can never understand why lads do that). Went into a 4 wheel skid (assuming JD's 4-wheel brake).
    Best course of action would have been to release the brakes and hit the accelerator and try to keep going straight. This would be second nature to most operators who operate on high or slippy ground but not so easy to react to if you are not used to that situation.

    why couldn't it be mechanical failure?

    I was behind a fendt once and the driver drove for a full mile with the rear left tyre locked up completly - tyre was burnt of the tractor. He was going flat out so had foot on accelerator as opposed to brake.

    So that mechanical failure


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    #1387
    mythos110
    Registered Users Posts: 223 ✭✭mythos110


    Panch18 wrote: »
    why couldn't it be mechanical failure?

    I was behind a fendt once and the driver drove for a full mile with the rear left tyre locked up completly - tyre was burnt of the tractor. He was going flat out so had foot on accelerator as opposed to brake.

    So that mechanical failure

    I didn't say it couldn't be mechanical failure, just that I'd doubt if it was :p

    I reckon there is enough other circumstances there (really smooth tar, wet, speed, loader etc) to say this could have happened to a perfectly functioning tractor. Similar has happened to me in fields where a combination of speed and slippery grass got me into a situation that thankfully to date I was able to react to and drive my way out of. Thankfully not had it on the road though!


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    #1388
    minerleague
    Registered Users Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭minerleague


    mythos110 wrote: »
    I didn't say it couldn't be mechanical failure, just that I'd doubt if it was :p

    I reckon there is enough other circumstances there (really smooth tar, wet, speed, loader etc) to say this could have happened to a perfectly functioning tractor. Similar has happened to me in fields where a combination of speed and slippery grass got me into a situation that thankfully to date I was able to react to and drive my way out of. Thankfully not had it on the road though!

    Doesn't the front wheel catch something on the ground?


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    #1389
    Reggie.
    Registered Users Posts: 24,364 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    minerleague wrote: »
    Doesn't the front wheel catch something on the ground?

    Could have been a water dyke


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    #1390
    roosterman71
    Registered Users Posts: 5,360 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    Not sure he hit that dyke, but definitely tried cutting the corner. Nearly cleared the bollard out of it and it's a good bit in off the road


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    #1391
    Waffletraktor
    Registered Users Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭Waffletraktor


    ganmo wrote: »
    car up the hole
    so didn't want to slow down enough to take the turn correctly
    ended up cutting the corner
    front left wheel sinks a bit
    pushes the rear of the around and over she goes.

    thats my summary of it

    Ran out of talent, all the above but i'd add in harsh breaking on the slippery surface.


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    #1392
    josephsoap
    Registered Users Posts: 649 ✭✭✭josephsoap


    Float position

    Seldom take off the front loader here, I have a Mx loader does anyone know how to leave the lift rams in the float position?

    So when I go to attach the loader, I drive up the guide rails and the lift rams/frame should then rise and click into attached the loader?

    Every time I take the loader off, it never works that way for me :o


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    #1393
    funkey_monkey
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    Any photos of it when it was righted up?
    It would be hardly be a right-off would it?


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    #1394
    Limestone Cowboy
    Registered Users Posts: 3,519 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    josephsoap wrote: »
    Float position

    Seldom take off the front loader here, I have a Mx loader does anyone know how to leave the lift rams in the float position?

    So when I go to attach the loader, I drive up the guide rails and the lift rams/frame should then rise and click into attached the loader?

    Every time I take the loader off, it never works that way for me :o

    I've one here aswell and never had a problem putting it on but it's a balls of a thing to take off. I drive in far enough to hook up the pipework and use the hydraulics to adjust it then. You can put it in float if you shove the joystick fully forward but not when it's not piped up to the tractor.


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    #1395
    Gillespy
    Registered Users Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭Gillespy


    I wouldn't rule out mechanical failure either. Happened to me with a 50hx one time, front hub had enough, locked up and I veered right across the road, pure luck not into traffic. Seems very strange incident for just driver error and speed.


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    #1396
    K.G.
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    is it a problem with the roadsurface,there is a different surface in the area where he braked and skidded


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    #1397
    blue5000
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    I reckon brake pedals were split.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



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    #1398
    Aska
    Registered Users Posts: 373 ✭✭Aska


    The day before


    522522.jpg


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    #1399
    ChuckieEgg
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 79 ✭✭ChuckieEgg


    Question about front loaders

    I have brackets fitted to my caseih mx110. I don't know what loader was originally on the Tractor all thats left is the bracket bolted onto the fron of the tractor to take the loader.
    Can I fit any loader to these brackets?


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    #1400
    emaherx
    Registered Users Posts: 5,961 ✭✭✭emaherx


    ChuckieEgg wrote: »
    Question about front loaders

    I have brackets fitted to my caseih mx110. I don't know what loader was originally on the Tractor all thats left is the bracket bolted onto the fron of the tractor to take the loader.
    Can I fit any loader to these brackets?

    No, they are for a specific type of loader. Is there any plates on them anywhere?
    you could post a picture, someone here might recognise them.


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    #1401
    White Clover
    Registered Users Posts: 4,558 ✭✭✭White Clover


    Aska wrote: »
    The day before


    522522.jpg

    Hope the driver is OK. What caused the overturn?


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    #1402
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ChuckieEgg wrote: »
    Question about front loaders

    I have brackets fitted to my caseih mx110. I don't know what loader was originally on the Tractor all thats left is the bracket bolted onto the fron of the tractor to take the loader.
    Can I fit any loader to these brackets?


    Post a pic of the brackets,someone might know


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    #1403
    ChuckieEgg
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 79 ✭✭ChuckieEgg


    Will post a pic, I'll look to see if theirs any plate or numbers on them


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    #1404
    Gawddawggonnit
    Registered Users Posts: 3,244 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    Waffletraktor wrote: »
    Ran out of talent, all the above but i'd add in harsh breaking on the slippery surface.

    +1.
    If I was hiring a professional driver and he hopped onto a tractor and locked the brake pedals together, I wouldn’t be hiring him...different story for a stockman.


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    #1405
    Panch18
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭Panch18


    Gawddawggonnit wrote: »
    +1.
    If I was hiring a professional driver and he hopped onto a tractor and locked the brake pedals together, I wouldn’t be hiring him...different story for a stockman.

    Some bigger newer tractors now are not giving you the choice - or should i say they come as 1 brake pedal as standard and if you want split you have to ask for it


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    #1406
    funkey_monkey
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    Panch18 wrote: »
    Some bigger newer tractors now are not giving you the choice - or should i say they come as 1 brake pedal as standard and if you want split you have to ask for it

    I don't think I've ever used split pedals on our big tractor. Used to do some ballerina style stuff on an old 7711 with a silage grab on the back though :D


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    #1407
    X6.430macman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,367 ✭✭✭X6.430macman


    Gawddawggonnit wrote:
    +1. If I was hiring a professional driver and he hopped onto a tractor and locked the brake pedals together, I wouldn’t be hiring him...different story for a stockman.


    I'm going to be really dumb here but can I ask why? I know some guys never lock them and vice versa. I've never had it properly explained why you'd want them open when pulling a trailer etc at 40k+ down the road.


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    #1408
    Reggie.
    Registered Users Posts: 24,364 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    X6.430macman wrote: »
    I'm going to be really dumb here but can I ask why? I know some guys never lock them and vice versa. I've never had it properly explained why you'd want them open when pulling a trailer etc at 40k+ down the road.

    I've never driven a tractor with the brakes split


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    #1409
    wrangler
    Registered Users Posts: 11,058 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Reggie. wrote: »
    I've never driven a tractor with the brakes split

    You'd imagine it'd be illegal to have them split on the road at least. a car showing uneven braking wouldn't be long failing a test


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    #1410
    Say my name
    Registered Users Posts: 11,054 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Reggie. wrote: »
    I've never driven a tractor with the brakes split

    A spud farmers son introduced me to split braking when I got stuck with a deutz pulling a spud trailer in the field on a damp November morning.


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    #1411
    mengele
    Registered Users Posts: 868 ✭✭✭mengele


    Its the old lads that would be the masters of split brakes. Ploughing with old tractors with no diff locks, and they would be tapping the side brake to keep her moving.


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