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Machinery Photo/Discussion Thread II

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 665 ✭✭✭josephsoap


    https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/video-dramatic-scenes-as-tractor-overturns-in-wexford/

    Did the driver pull the hand break which might have led the tractor to overturn ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,570 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    I wonder did the pin come out between the break pedals maybe and only breaked one side going into the turn?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,805 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    josephsoap wrote: »
    https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/video-dramatic-scenes-as-tractor-overturns-in-wexford/

    Did the driver pull the hand break which might have led the tractor to overturn ?

    Looks like there was some sort of grid that caught the left front wheel which it pushed in front of it and automatic four wheel or three wheel drive kicked in. It'd kick in anyway when the brakes are applied and combined with that grid and the turn spun it around and over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,743 ✭✭✭ganmo


    car up the hole
    so didn't want to slow down enough to take the turn correctly
    ended up cutting the corner
    front left wheel sinks a bit
    pushes the rear of the around and over she goes.

    thats my summary of it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,702 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    ganmo wrote: »
    car up the hole
    so didn't want to slow down enough to take the turn correctly
    ended up cutting the corner
    front left wheel sinks a bit
    pushes the rear of the around and over she goes.

    thats my summary of it

    And the loader up high just helped flip her over


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭NcdJd


    Mooooo wrote: »
    I wonder did the pin come out between the break pedals maybe and only breaked one side going into the turn?

    Or the side breaks weren't locked at all 😳


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭timple23


    Maybe track rod broke? Front left wheel looks like driver is trying to countersteer. Seems to be sliding before they hit the grass verge.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,467 ✭✭✭Panch18


    I reckon it's mechanical failure on the part of the JD, those back brakes are locked up way before it goes over


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 232 ✭✭mythos110


    Panch18 wrote: »
    I reckon it's mechanical failure on the part of the JD, those back brakes are locked up way before it goes over

    Very much doubt it was a mechanical failure but possibly the brakes were not locked as a previous poster says. Looks like a very smooth surface coupled with being wet meant no grip hence the lock up. Loader up to the last a contributing factor here as well (I can never understand why lads do that). Went into a 4 wheel skid (assuming JD's 4-wheel brake).
    Best course of action would have been to release the brakes and hit the accelerator and try to keep going straight. This would be second nature to most operators who operate on high or slippy ground but not so easy to react to if you are not used to that situation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,467 ✭✭✭Panch18


    mythos110 wrote: »
    Very much doubt it was a mechanical failure but possibly the brakes were not locked as a previous poster says. Looks like a very smooth surface coupled with being wet meant no grip hence the lock up. Loader up to the last a contributing factor here as well (I can never understand why lads do that). Went into a 4 wheel skid (assuming JD's 4-wheel brake).
    Best course of action would have been to release the brakes and hit the accelerator and try to keep going straight. This would be second nature to most operators who operate on high or slippy ground but not so easy to react to if you are not used to that situation.

    why couldn't it be mechanical failure?

    I was behind a fendt once and the driver drove for a full mile with the rear left tyre locked up completly - tyre was burnt of the tractor. He was going flat out so had foot on accelerator as opposed to brake.

    So that mechanical failure


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 232 ✭✭mythos110


    Panch18 wrote: »
    why couldn't it be mechanical failure?

    I was behind a fendt once and the driver drove for a full mile with the rear left tyre locked up completly - tyre was burnt of the tractor. He was going flat out so had foot on accelerator as opposed to brake.

    So that mechanical failure

    I didn't say it couldn't be mechanical failure, just that I'd doubt if it was :p

    I reckon there is enough other circumstances there (really smooth tar, wet, speed, loader etc) to say this could have happened to a perfectly functioning tractor. Similar has happened to me in fields where a combination of speed and slippery grass got me into a situation that thankfully to date I was able to react to and drive my way out of. Thankfully not had it on the road though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,243 ✭✭✭minerleague


    mythos110 wrote: »
    I didn't say it couldn't be mechanical failure, just that I'd doubt if it was :p

    I reckon there is enough other circumstances there (really smooth tar, wet, speed, loader etc) to say this could have happened to a perfectly functioning tractor. Similar has happened to me in fields where a combination of speed and slippery grass got me into a situation that thankfully to date I was able to react to and drive my way out of. Thankfully not had it on the road though!

    Doesn't the front wheel catch something on the ground?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,702 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Doesn't the front wheel catch something on the ground?

    Could have been a water dyke


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,189 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    Not sure he hit that dyke, but definitely tried cutting the corner. Nearly cleared the bollard out of it and it's a good bit in off the road


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,445 ✭✭✭Waffletraktor


    ganmo wrote: »
    car up the hole
    so didn't want to slow down enough to take the turn correctly
    ended up cutting the corner
    front left wheel sinks a bit
    pushes the rear of the around and over she goes.

    thats my summary of it

    Ran out of talent, all the above but i'd add in harsh breaking on the slippery surface.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 665 ✭✭✭josephsoap


    Float position

    Seldom take off the front loader here, I have a Mx loader does anyone know how to leave the lift rams in the float position?

    So when I go to attach the loader, I drive up the guide rails and the lift rams/frame should then rise and click into attached the loader?

    Every time I take the loader off, it never works that way for me :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,726 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    josephsoap wrote: »
    Float position

    Seldom take off the front loader here, I have a Mx loader does anyone know how to leave the lift rams in the float position?

    So when I go to attach the loader, I drive up the guide rails and the lift rams/frame should then rise and click into attached the loader?

    Every time I take the loader off, it never works that way for me :o

    I've one here aswell and never had a problem putting it on but it's a balls of a thing to take off. I drive in far enough to hook up the pipework and use the hydraulics to adjust it then. You can put it in float if you shove the joystick fully forward but not when it's not piped up to the tractor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,690 ✭✭✭Gillespy


    I wouldn't rule out mechanical failure either. Happened to me with a 50hx one time, front hub had enough, locked up and I veered right across the road, pure luck not into traffic. Seems very strange incident for just driver error and speed.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,655 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    is it a problem with the roadsurface,there is a different surface in the area where he braked and skidded


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,985 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    I reckon brake pedals were split.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 374 ✭✭Aska


    The day before


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 79 ✭✭ChuckieEgg


    Question about front loaders

    I have brackets fitted to my caseih mx110. I don't know what loader was originally on the Tractor all thats left is the bracket bolted onto the fron of the tractor to take the loader.
    Can I fit any loader to these brackets?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,682 ✭✭✭emaherx


    ChuckieEgg wrote: »
    Question about front loaders

    I have brackets fitted to my caseih mx110. I don't know what loader was originally on the Tractor all thats left is the bracket bolted onto the fron of the tractor to take the loader.
    Can I fit any loader to these brackets?

    No, they are for a specific type of loader. Is there any plates on them anywhere?
    you could post a picture, someone here might recognise them.

    🌈 🌈 🌈 🌈



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,082 ✭✭✭White Clover


    Aska wrote: »
    The day before


    522522.jpg

    Hope the driver is OK. What caused the overturn?


  • Posts: 6,246 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ChuckieEgg wrote: »
    Question about front loaders

    I have brackets fitted to my caseih mx110. I don't know what loader was originally on the Tractor all thats left is the bracket bolted onto the fron of the tractor to take the loader.
    Can I fit any loader to these brackets?


    Post a pic of the brackets,someone might know


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 79 ✭✭ChuckieEgg


    Will post a pic, I'll look to see if theirs any plate or numbers on them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,453 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    Ran out of talent, all the above but i'd add in harsh breaking on the slippery surface.

    +1.
    If I was hiring a professional driver and he hopped onto a tractor and locked the brake pedals together, I wouldn’t be hiring him...different story for a stockman.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,467 ✭✭✭Panch18


    +1.
    If I was hiring a professional driver and he hopped onto a tractor and locked the brake pedals together, I wouldn’t be hiring him...different story for a stockman.

    Some bigger newer tractors now are not giving you the choice - or should i say they come as 1 brake pedal as standard and if you want split you have to ask for it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,367 ✭✭✭X6.430macman


    +1. If I was hiring a professional driver and he hopped onto a tractor and locked the brake pedals together, I wouldn’t be hiring him...different story for a stockman.


    I'm going to be really dumb here but can I ask why? I know some guys never lock them and vice versa. I've never had it properly explained why you'd want them open when pulling a trailer etc at 40k+ down the road.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,702 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    I'm going to be really dumb here but can I ask why? I know some guys never lock them and vice versa. I've never had it properly explained why you'd want them open when pulling a trailer etc at 40k+ down the road.

    I've never driven a tractor with the brakes split


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