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Today's bargain watch that I'm not buying

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,163 ✭✭✭893bet


    blue5000 wrote: »
    There's two ways of looking at it I suppose. Might be a lot of ppl online 'working' from home that might like a new thing to cheer them up.

    I'd offer half what they're looking for and see what happens. If they get a load of lowball offers and then someone comes up with a reasonable offer it can sell very easily.

    Not in the market for one but thought it seems ok for a nearly new watch.

    Seller has a sob story of a business getting ready to go under so no one can lowball with out being a dick.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,703 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Nolimits wrote: »
    Isn't half of what someone's asking a low ball offer in itself?
    893bet wrote: »
    Not in the market for one but thought it seems ok for a nearly new watch.

    Seller has a sob story of a business getting ready to go under so no one can lowball with out being a dick.

    I haven't seen the ad. If the seller is in a hole wouldn't 2k be a lot better to him than everyone standing around looking at it.

    Yes, half is a low ball offer, but on chrono24 a lot of asking prices are really unrealistic.

    As for being a dick, there's going to be a lot of people losing out due to this c19. Many self employed people who hung on by their fingernails after the celtic tiger went titsup can see themselves in the same situation again. This could be worse as emigrating won't be an option.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,508 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    893bet wrote: »
    A lot of nice watches popping up on SC the last week.......

    13 Rolex watches on the first page right now!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭Hogzy


    893bet wrote: »
    A lot of nice watches popping up on SC the last week.......

    What is SC?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,703 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Sales corner on a UK watch forum tz uk

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,163 ✭✭✭893bet


    https://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.php?468889-FS-Tudor-Black-Bay-Blue

    ETA black bay for 1250? Seems reasonable

    Sold in a flash


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,621 ✭✭✭celtic_oz


    not nice (or expensive) enough for most of you .. but I have my eye on this (click for price )

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    some video here :


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,163 ✭✭✭893bet


    That lovely, especially for 25 quid. Lovely omega homage.

    Always a fan of anything orange!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭Hogzy


    Is that really certified to 600m?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,257 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    Hogzy wrote: »
    Is that really certified to 600m?

    I would say not!
    Waterproof: not suit for swim or shower

    Safe to say it's probably not a co-axial movement either.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭Hogzy


    Eoin wrote: »
    I would say not!



    Safe to say it's probably not a co-axial movement either.

    Didnt realise it was for sale on AliExpress hahaha :D

    100% not certified to 600m!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,257 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    Kinda tempting, to see what $25 can get you though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,538 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    Eoin wrote: »
    Kinda tempting, to see what $25 can get you though.

    In hand those Alibaba yolks are muck. Its a fake...come on. We have a fake watch busters thread for the love of god....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,163 ✭✭✭893bet


    I hadn’t noted the “co axial” on the dial on my glance.

    Skirting a little past homage towards fake territory.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,110 ✭✭✭Thirdfox


    893bet wrote: »
    I hadn’t noted the “co axial” on the dial on my glance.

    Skirting a little past homage towards fake territory.

    Even if legally allowed (since "co axial" isn't a trademarked term - unlike "navy" - see Panerai :rolleyes:) - in my eyes it goes quite a bit beyond homage and into reproduction/misleading territory.

    Even taking it at face value the watch is putting text on the dial that is clearly false, misleading and nonsensical - it's not a master chronometer (if they're referencing the Swiss lab that Omega are using to certify their watches), it's not a co-axial and it's not water resistant to 600m. So if it's not all those things then why would they put all that on the dial? :(

    To the op - I believe Alpha do plenty of Omega homages that don't have all the fluff text on the dials - clean dials with the elements of what you're looking for might be up your street :)

    A list of other homage brands who do the Seamaster - https://forums.watchuseek.com/f71/omega-seamaster-homage-4239362.html

    And I can assure you OP for $25 you'll be getting a toy that may break in 1 day, 7 days, 7 years - you just have no idea with the components and pot luck/non-existant QC (remember they need to make a profit at $25 including postage - so the watch probably costs around $6-8 in components and around $2-4 in assembly cost). If at all possible I'd recommend you to save a little more and get something in the $75-100 range - yes that's 3x the cost but at that price they can actual spend time doing a little bit of QC to make sure the hands don't fall off after a week of wearing.

    edit: And another warning is that some sellers are known to put on a different text on the dial for advertising purposes and actually send the fake name on the dial for the actual product. Since for these watches - all that's missing from the dial to be a complete illegal "fake" is the Omega name.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭DuckSlice


    Is this a good deal? Looks a lovely watch!

    https://bit.ly/2wuFAcD


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,312 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    In hand those Alibaba yolks are muck. Its a fake...come on. We have a fake watch busters thread for the love of god....

    Homage, not a fake.

    Its very simple, it doesn't say Omega on the dial


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,110 ✭✭✭Thirdfox


    Cienciano wrote: »
    Homage, not a fake.

    Its very simple, it doesn't say Omega on the dial

    There is a bit more nuance than that though - it's why people can't "get away" with using Omcga or Rolox on the dial - even if it doesn't say Omega legally there can be a line which crosses the trademark of a brand.

    Having all the extra text on the dial which doesn't actually describe the features of the watch itself but is used by Omega to describe their planet ocean model can be thought of as an "intention to confuse" - even if not to the original purchaser (who knows that this isn't a genuine Omega) but other observers post sale.

    It's why Ferrari was able to stop people selling car kits on a commercial level that made their Toyotas look like F400... correction:
    F355 and Toyota MR2s:
    https://www.thedrive.com/news/31706/is-this-ferrari-f355-bodied-toyota-mr2-an-abomination-or-artddd

    It says Toyota on the body but the casual bystander might mistake it for a Ferrari and then think..."eh - Ferrari's ain't all that - seems like a cheap Toyota or something" if they don't notice the badge on the back.

    To be absolutely safe in the watch world if you want to homage a different design you should only include your own brand and own relevant writing on an otherwise sterile dial. Once you start copying other brand's text which is not the same as design you get into legally dubious territory. I'm no IP lawyer though :pac:

    edit: Props for the name though Pauleris - Polaris was taken I guess...


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Hogzy wrote: »
    Is that really certified to 600m?
    Aye, keep it 600m from any water.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,312 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Well, even a person who has no idea about watches can look at this and tell you it's not an omega.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,474 ✭✭✭Ryath


    etxp wrote: »
    Is this a good deal? Looks a lovely watch!

    https://bit.ly/2wuFAcD

    It's not a bad price especially with sterling tanking. €300 plus from the asian websites and you'll probably get stung for vat. I've been tempted by open hearts and skeletons a few time's most aren't terribly legible and this one is a little bit busy for my tastes. If it had blued hands it would be easier read.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 362 ✭✭Die Hard 2019


    In hand those Alibaba yolks are muck. Its a fake...come on. We have a fake watch busters thread for the love of god....

    The pagani design "Daytona" is lovley


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,621 ✭✭✭celtic_oz


    The pagani design "Daytona" is lovley




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,731 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Monaco, yours for a three figure sum

    Linky


    Tempted myself, but I know it's not my style. It would only be for sale again next week :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭Homer


    unkel wrote: »
    Monaco, yours for a three figure sum

    Linky


    Tempted myself, but I know it's not my style. It would only be for sale again next week :p

    I know it’s the less desirable of the Monaco models but sub €1k is good value for sure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,538 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    Thats a very good bargain on the monaco, somebody will get a great watch there for a bargain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,731 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    I've rarely seen a Breitling that I fancy, but I like the look of this:

    YzMzOTdjMzUwMjMxZDAwYmVlZjVlNDc0NzkxODA2YzcemgJbcO0GQAWclki4FF2XaHR0cDovL21lZGlhLmFkc2ltZy5jb20vMzJhNzY3YTQ2NmNhYmFiNjViYWJiZmU0MGU0OTJkM2UyMGU0Y2E3Mjc2MjdiNmQyMGVhYjU5M2RiN2M2NmNhOC5qcGd8fHx8fHwxMzN4MjkyfGh0dHA6Ly93d3cuYWR2ZXJ0cy5pZS9zdGF0aWMvaS93YXRlcm1hcmsucG5nfHx8.jpg

    Linky


    Pictures are pretty poor. At what sort of money would this be a real bargain?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,777 ✭✭✭Lorddrakul


    unkel wrote: »
    I've rarely seen a Breitling that I fancy, but I like the look of this:


    Linky


    Pictures are pretty poor. At what sort of money would this be a real bargain?

    That seems like an awful lot for a three-hander, even a Breitling.

    They are coming in at that price in dollars on Chrono24, so I doubt it would fetch that here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,942 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    unkel wrote: »
    I've rarely seen a Breitling that I fancy, but I like the look of this:


    Linky


    Pictures are pretty poor. At what sort of money would this be a real bargain?

    Be very careful with a Transocean.
    AFAIK the blue in particular has been repped to a very, very high standard and could need a very good eye to spot a fake.

    Not implying in any way or form that the linked ad is spurious, but just flagging that the particular model is on the "super-reps" list that floats around Reddit.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,110 ✭✭✭Thirdfox


    And it's always possible that sometimes genuine honest sellers may not know that they have replicas too if the quality is good enough. So even "buying the seller" may not be enough.

    In these cases it'll only be "certified" once it goes in for an authorised service and it comes back with a service warranty - something that can be traced online (at least it can for Omega - I'm sure the other large brands offer it too). So I guess asking about service records would be useful for "no papers" watches - quite apart from knowing if the owner has actually taken care of the watch and had it serviced or just let the lube wear out over the years etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,538 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    Thirdfox wrote: »
    And it's always possible that sometimes genuine honest sellers may not know that they have replicas too if the quality is good enough. So even "buying the seller" may not be enough.

    In these cases it'll only be "certified" once it goes in for an authorised service and it comes back with a service warranty - something that can be traced online (at least it can for Omega - I'm sure the other large brands offer it too). So I guess asking about service records would be useful for "no papers" watches - quite apart from knowing if the owner has actually taken care of the watch and had it serviced or just let the lube wear out over the years etc.

    This is why watches with generic movements are dangerous, like ETA, Valjous and Seleta (couldnt be bothered looking up the spelling on these)...the Panerai effect. A fake watch can have a real movement, making them almost impossible to spot even to experienced owners and re-sellers, espically on a non precious watch with limited complexity of design.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,473 ✭✭✭longshotvalue


    Jeez if a lad had a good cheltenham:rolleyes:. There is some load of nice watches on adverts.



    Must resist .


    That Monaco, A Sinn 103, a Grail Longines master chronograph.



    Dam the fella here who sold me a steinhart Auto for €200 it'll be the most expensive bargain i ever got , as now i cant look at quartz (sweeping hands)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,312 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Just Google rwi nwbig and you'll see a list of the super reps.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,703 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,709 ✭✭✭This is it


    Where's a good bricks and mortor shop to look at watches? I like the look of lots on here but would like to try them on before committing to anything. Budget would be in and around €1k max


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,703 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    This is it wrote: »
    Where's a good bricks and mortor shop to look at watches? I like the look of lots on here but would like to try them on before committing to anything. Budget would be in and around €1k max

    Hour passion in Kildare village for watches from the swatch group.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users Posts: 456 ✭✭oxocube


    aidankkk wrote: »
    Jeez if a lad had a good cheltenham:rolleyes:. There is some load of nice watches on adverts.



    Must resist .


    A Grail Longines master chronograph.

    Seen one of these sell for €750 on Adverts a while back. No box or papers and the seller was a cash converters type of shop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,731 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    It's a long time since I last browsed Meranom's website. I owned an Amphibia before, it was a lovely watch, but too small for me. This newer and bigger one stands out to me, USD120, including shipping

    Vostok_Amphibia_170863-01-480x480.webp

    Linky


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,942 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    blue5000 wrote: »

    That's a steal in fairness.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,703 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    blue5000 wrote: »
    banie01 wrote: »
    That's a steal in fairness.

    Sold.......banie01 was that you?;)

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,942 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    blue5000 wrote: »
    Sold.......banie01 was that you?;)

    Nope, I was tempted but tbh I'm a bit strapped for cash at the mo.
    I do really like the look of the Steinhart Kermit tho, and it is cheap enough that you can wear it as a tool watch without worrying about a ding affecting the kid's college find :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭TheRepentent


    That Steinhart is my daily watch. Really like it.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,942 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    That Steinhart is my daily watch. Really like it.

    I go back and forth between the Sinn U2 and my HKed Bund, I'll be honest tho...
    I bloody love the Bund and it is getting most of my wrist time at the moment.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭TheRepentent


    banie01 wrote: »
    I go back and forth between the Sinn U2 and my HKed Bund, I'll be honest tho...
    I bloody love the Bund and it is getting most of my wrist time at the moment.
    Yeah I liked that HKed Bund you posted previously

    Sig edited so not to "offend" genocide apologists

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,473 ✭✭✭longshotvalue


    banie01 wrote: »
    I go back and forth between the Sinn U2 and my HKed Bund, I'll be honest tho...
    I bloody love the Bund and it is getting most of my wrist time at the moment.


    I never heard of these but there is some lovely watches there


    Sapphire HKED ED63 Cream looks lovely


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,942 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    aidankkk wrote: »
    I never heard of these but there is some lovely watches there


    Sapphire HKED ED63 Cream looks lovely

    He has a couple of really nice bits.
    The emperor in blue is quite eye-catching too but out of stock a while now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,110 ✭✭✭Thirdfox


    aidankkk wrote: »
    I never heard of these but there is some lovely watches there


    Sapphire HKED ED63 Cream looks lovely

    Shows you that Chinese made stuff can be appealing too :) - it'll take time but I believe eventually enough people will come around to it - like Japanese cameras, Swiss watches (yeah Swiss watches used to be regarded as low tier stuff compared to the US/UK brands) etc. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,163 ✭✭✭893bet




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭Hogzy


    893bet wrote: »

    Thats some value!!!!

    Whats that particular seller like?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,163 ✭✭✭893bet


    Hogzy wrote: »
    Thats some value!!!!

    Whats that particular seller like?

    It’s an authorised dealer! Watches of Switzerland.


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