Today's bargain watch that I'm not buying

peasant

This works a treat on motors ..let's see if it works here too

Came across this lovely little watch, unworn, old stock, handwind.



currently at €1.50 with 6 hours to go on the bay

Reason I'm not buying it ...it's only 31 mm diameter and thus really only for ladies

Smokeyskelton

Hi Peasant, (That makes me sound like a toff addressing a minion)

Good idea for a thread. I think there used to be a bargain alert sticky on this forum, but perhaps it was removed for infrequency of posts.

The watch isn't my style either, but thanks for sharing the goodness, that's a cheap price!

Smokey

Monty Burnz

Great idea for a thread Peasant!

peasant

Ok ...here's another one then:

Slava handwind, interesting movement with two mainsprings, 36 mm Diameter, yours for all of € 17.26 "buy it now" and the same again in shipping




http://cgi.ebay.de/SPECIAL-RUSSIAN-MILITARY-WATCH-COMMANDOS-STORM-SLAVA-/160611455535?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item256530522f

available in different styles




Reason why I'm not buying ...we (my wife) have already got one ...in military green
Fantastic ickle watch that currently runs at - 4 seconds per day :P

(we did buy from a different seller though, so I have no remarks about this particular one)

peasant

This is today's item that I'm not buying



http://cgi.ebay.de/Schiffschronometer-/180690197382?pt=DE_Elektronik_Computer_Audio_Hi_Fi_Mikrofone&hash=item2a11f99b86

It's a ship's chronometer ...yepp, one of those incredibly intricate and complicated mechanical timekeepers.

It's currently at only 200 Euro, listed in a strange category and ends on Thursday morning.

It could therefore potentially end up as the bargain of the century (these things range in price from about 1500 for a bad one to infinity and beyond)

The reason why I'm not buying this ...well I don't have a ship
(and no skills or watchmaker at hand to do it justice in maintenance)

Homer

Hmmm. Might be worth a punt as a long term investment and a quirky coffee table talking point!

Wibbs

Tempting alright, though actual chronometers have delicate escapements and can be delicate full stop. You'd need a friendly watchmaker.

peasant

Here's one from a dealer (at 2.4k) with some more pics:
http://www.poljot24.de/en/pd1033749353.htm?categoryId=9

peasant

today's bargain watch that I'm not buying.

A Kienzle. A good old German brand, recently saved from the brink.
This watch is a 40 mm automatic with Myota movement.
Brandnew and yours for 99 Euro (incl. shipping)


http://cgi.ebay.de/KIENZLE-1822-Herrenuhr-Automatic-UVP-99-00-/250842740807?pt=DE_Kleidung_Schmuck_Accessoires_Uhren_Armbanduhren&hash=item3a67647847
Reason why I'm not buying ...while it has a nice classical look to it, it's perhaps a bit on the dowdy side and doesn't quite grab me ...might grab someone else though.


BTW ...I'm quite happy for someone else to post bargains too


EDIT

I found it even cheaper ...only 69 Euro ... http://cgi.ebay.de/KIENZLE-Edelstahl-AUTOMATIK-Herrenuhr-NEU-/110700244050?pt=DE_Kleidung_Schmuck_Accessoires_Uhren_Armbanduhren&hash=item19c63fac52

Bullseye1

That's very nice.

Smokeyskelton

This may well go higher and I'm not sure about postage, but I think it's pretty nice, (oh yeah, and cheap). From German Ebay, so you may need to translate the page.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110709352678&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_826wt_1139

quarryman

Smokeyskelton wrote: »

This may well go higher and I'm not sure about postage, but I think it's pretty nice, (oh yeah, and cheap). From German Ebay, so you may need to translate the page.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110709352678&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_826wt_1139

The translated description makes interesting reading:


I guess that the clock was built so about 1965.

There are traces of hand on the clock. The dial has errors. Please see the pictures
Part of the description, are the exact state of the Clock.

The automatic movement is in motion immediately.

The genuine leather strap clip is new and never worn and from a retail price of 30 € included, otherwise it is: the
Bracelet is not included.

quarryman

peasant wrote: »

today's bargain watch that I'm not buying.

A Kienzle. A good old German brand, recently saved from the brink.
This watch is a 40 mm automatic with Myota movement.
Brandnew and yours for 99 Euro (incl. shipping)


http://cgi.ebay.de/KIENZLE-1822-Herrenuhr-Automatic-UVP-99-00-/250842740807?pt=DE_Kleidung_Schmuck_Accessoires_Uhren_Armbanduhren&hash=item3a67647847
Reason why I'm not buying ...while it has a nice classical look to it, it's perhaps a bit on the dowdy side and doesn't quite grab me ...might grab someone else though.


BTW ...I'm quite happy for someone else to post bargains too


EDIT

I found it even cheaper ...only 69 Euro ... http://cgi.ebay.de/KIENZLE-Edelstahl-AUTOMATIK-Herrenuhr-NEU-/110700244050?pt=DE_Kleidung_Schmuck_Accessoires_Uhren_Armbanduhren&hash=item19c63fac52

Are Kienzle a decent make? They're around 190 years but I can't seem to find much info online about them. Could that one be a fake?

Edit: It looks like their watches start at around €100 new so unlikely to be a fake etc..

peasant

This is currently at 1 Euro with three hours to go.

I haven't the slightest notion what it is (and the ad doesn't give any info either other than that it's running and mechanical) but it sounds and looks intriguing




diamond tooled, tropicalized, radar tested ...who could resist?


http://cgi.ebay.de/Seltene-mechanische-Diane-HAU-Diamond-Tooled-TOP-/250849121627?pt=DE_Kleidung_Schmuck_Accessoires_Uhren_Armbanduhren&hash=item3a67c5d55b

marcus1971

Check this out a Rado ..... for the man on the go, who has plans to make and things to do in funky 70ie-tastic style.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170664499322&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

peasant

The Slava rattrapante stopwatch


At 50 Euro "buy it now" incl. shipping currently the cheapest one in the bay
http://cgi.ebay.de/SLAVA-VINTAGE-Russian-Pocket-SPLIT-Stopwatch-3-Butt-/190552245679?pt=Pocket_Watches&hash=item2c5dcc85af

Reason why I'm not buying:
Nice as they are ...I don't need two

peasant

Sorry, boring you with another Russian

A funky ...well it's a matter of taste really, I call it funky:D ...little Raketa



For a vintage watch it's rather big and "modern" at 39 mm w/o crown ...so quite wearable.
Yours for 35 +10 "buy it now" http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170662078207&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Reason I'm not buying:
I bought something a little more classy

markesmith

That second Russian looks really nice. Reason I'm not buying: waiting on first paycheck!

peasant

Here it is again
http://cgi.ebay.de/RAKETA-USSR-ANTIQUE-WRIST-WATCH-10-MICRONS-GOLD-FILLED-/120749782478?pt=Pocket_Watches&hash=item1c1d3f75ce
with gilt case & strap (and lots of pics) ...unfortunately also twice the price.
But then again they say its serviced and tested which in case of a really old watch is worth quite a bit (if true)

peterako

sold for....€13 :eek:

peasant wrote: »

This is currently at 1 Euro with three hours to go.

I haven't the slightest notion what it is (and the ad doesn't give any info either other than that it's running and mechanical) but it sounds and looks intriguing




diamond tooled, tropicalized, radar tested ...who could resist?


http://cgi.ebay.de/Seltene-mechanische-Diane-HAU-Diamond-Tooled-TOP-/250849121627?pt=DE_Kleidung_Schmuck_Accessoires_Uhren_Armbanduhren&hash=item3a67c5d55b

peasant

sorry ..still on Russians ...or Belorussians in this case.

Here's a perfect, super-slim dresswatch for under 50 Euro including shipping, serviced and all:

Luch de luxe (with 2209 movement which is only 2.9 mm thick)




put a decent strap on it and you're done



http://cgi.ebay.de/LUCH-DE-LUXE-ULTRA-SLIM-SOVIET-LUXURY-WATCH-VINTAGE-/120745460702?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item1c1cfd83de


Reason I'm not buying:
I'm not all that "dressy" really

Bullseye1

Seems like a very long strap.

Homer

Spotted this on www.dealrush.ie today. At €18 including P&P it's a bargain and a cheap and cheerful addition to the collection

Eoin

peasant wrote: »

sorry ..still on Russians ...or Belorussians in this case.

Here's a perfect, super-slim dresswatch for under 50 Euro including shipping, serviced and all:

Luch de luxe (with 2209 movement which is only 2.9 mm thick)

http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/olegfrog/watch_luch_deluxe_4_2006111.JPG
http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/olegfrog/watch_luch_deluxe_4_2006113.JPG

put a decent strap on it and you're done

http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/olegfrog/watch_luch_deluxe_4_2006115.JPG

http://cgi.ebay.de/LUCH-DE-LUXE-ULTRA-SLIM-SOVIET-LUXURY-WATCH-VINTAGE-/120745460702?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item1c1cfd83de


Reason I'm not buying:
I'm not all that "dressy" really

that's quite tempting...

peasant

A Swiss watch "Zephyr" from 1968 ...now old stock in perfect condition.
Unitas movement, handwind.

An interesting and different piece for small money. With handwind and no complications *you just wind and set it whenever you want to wear it and off you go.

* tsk ...I overlooked the date

Yours for 50 Euro + freight



http://cgi.ebay.de/ZEPHIR-DE-LUXE-UNITAS-Werk-um-1968-ungetragenen-/190557015837?pt=DE_Kleidung_Schmuck_Accessoires_Uhren_Armbanduhren&hash=item2c5e154f1d

Might not be the most beautiful watch out there, but it would certainly stand out.


Reason I'm not buying:
I'm on a watch buying hiatus right now ...I'm fast running out of wrists and days of the week to give all my recent acquisitions an airing

peasant

I recently stumbled over Aristo watches. Made in Germany, some of them with ETA 2824-2 movements at a very good price (i.e. under 300 Euro).

Look at these three from their "Dessau" range for example ...on sale at 238.-- Euro ...not to be sniffed at, I think.





http://cgi.ebay.de/ARISTO-Dessau-Bauhaus-Automatic-Ref-4H127-white-/270780647211?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item3f0bc8c72b

They've got some nice Flieger-style watches too, if you're into that kind of thing

Bullseye1

Those top three are nice.

peasant

Ok ...so this is not a watch, nor will it really be a bargain ...but I found it really interesting, so it's going up here:
http://cgi.ebay.de/LUSO-Baby-Puppenstubenwanduhr-/300578550921?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item45fbe0b489



This is (of all things!) a miniature wall clock ...for a dollhouse !

Interesting (if useless) in itself ...but what really grabbed me is the fact that the box says "made in Germany", but the back says this:

"Made (in) U.S. Zone"

which would place the date of manufacture (or at least the tooling for the case ) firmly between 1945 and 1949.

Some (presumably Black Forest area) watchmaking company must have been really desperate to get its share of the GI souvenir market.


Here it is in its "natural environment" (pic from the dollhouse museum)

peasant

This could be a tool watch / beater that should take some beating


http://www.ranger-shop.de/products/Ausruestung/Technik/Uhren/Taucheruhr-mit-Edelstahlgehaeuse.html

Stainless steel, 1000 m water proof, sapphire glass, Neoprene strap 25 mm wide, 43 mm diameter case.

Doesn't say what's under the hood ...but at that price it has to be quartz.

yours for 129 Euro

Reason I'm not buying ...I don't dive

marcus1971

peasant wrote: »

This could be a tool watch / beater that should take some beating


http://www.ranger-shop.de/products/Ausruestung/Technik/Uhren/Taucheruhr-mit-Edelstahlgehaeuse.html

Stainless steel, 1000 m water proof, sapphire glass, Neoprene strap 25 mm wide, 43 mm diameter case.

Doesn't say what's under the hood ...but at that price it has to be quartz.

yours for 129 Euro

Reason I'm not buying ...I don't dive

Nice shape on that case, looks very Omegaesque & its a destro too,

Another one of theirs that looks ok...
http://www.ranger-shop.de/products/Ausruestung/Technik/Uhren/Army-Uhr-German-Air-Force.html

Only 37yoyos and it's on a bund......
of course you couldn't buy this either....unless you fly?

peasant

A lovely NOS Swiss Chrono for 90 quid "buy it now"


http://cgi.ebay.de/CHRONOGRAPH-SUISSE-CHATEAU-SPORT-1970er-ungetragen-NOS-/190562224227?pt=DE_Kleidung_Schmuck_Accessoires_Uhren_Armbanduhren&hash=item2c5e64c863

looks tempting, doesn't it?


Until you get to the reason why I'm not buying

Luckily there is also a big picture of the movement.



It has the grand total of one (1!!) Jewel :eek: ...one Jewel in a Chrono

I guess the plastic ring is in there so you can flood it with WD40 every now and then ...like when you want to use the chrono ...so it doesn't grind itself to death in 30 seconds.

Not everything that says "Swiss made" is quality ...give me a cheap Chinese chrono any day

peasant

Here's another of these superslim handwinds:



for a little over 20 quid http://cgi.ebay.de/Vintage-SEKONDA-LUCH-SLIM-ussr-soviet-russia-23J-GILT-/180705363595?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item2a12e1068b

reason I'm not buying:
I've already got one in blue and I'm not really a gold watch type of guy

peasant

Somebody is cleaning out their old stock of Vostok Europe watches ...among them some funky K3 models in, lets say "bright" colours



http://stores.ebay.de/MosWatch2010/_i.html?rt=nc&_sid=997195069&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14&_sop=10&_sc=1

Vostok Europe make good quality watches (I've got one and I really like it) and at 170 quid one of the above could be a funky little "special occasion" watch.

automatic, 41 mm dia, mineral crystal and back, 24h indicator and date and 2 years warranty from this seller.

Mycroft H

Vostok Amphibia (labelled as the komandirskie)







Love the pilot dial on it, not too many amphibias have them

http://cgi.ebay.ie/VOSTOK-KOMANDIRSKIE-STYLE-SOVIET-WATCH-ANTIMAGNETIC-/110727774302?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item19c7e3c05e#ht_3667wt_1139

peasant

While we're on the subject in another thread

This:

http://cgi.ebay.de/v186-Soviet-Watch-Molnija-Waffen-SS-B-uhr-W-SS-/300572236626?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item45fb805b52

is of course a total fake ...but it's made of nice-ish components, especially the movement, another Molnija pocket watch movement.

At 56 Euro it might be worth a gamble

Bullseye1

Interesting design. If you hadn't said it was soviet id have guessed it was an SS officers watch with the two thunder bolts.

peasant

It's a copy/imitation of the 65 mm Waffen-SS sextant watch from the other thread.

Stalin would rotate in his grave if he new that SS insignia found their way onto a Russian made (faked) watch

Bullseye1

LOL.

Bullseye1

It's. Nice looking face.

Zagato

peasant wrote: »

It's a copy/imitation of the 65 mm Waffen-SS sextant watch from the other thread.

You make my thread sound dirty!

peasant

Today, something a bit out of the ordinary.

A watch with hand engraved Molnija pocket watch movement in a custom made brass/gilt case.



Invest in a few blued screws and you have an absolute beauty on your hands.

Considering the work that went into it, the 245 Euro asking price is an absolute steal
http://cgi.ebay.de/Beautiful-Designer-Molnija-Wristwatch-Art-Deco-/150651069317?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item231380e385

Reason I'm not buying:
It's just sooo not my style
(plus, somehow it's not quite finished)

Nolimits

It's always dodgy buying a wrist watch with a pocket watch movement, the movement will have little or no shock protection and it's designed to be kept relatively still sitting in a pocket, not for the kind of action it would get on a wrist. For that kind of price I think it's a bit of a gamble, certainly shouldn't be worn regularly.

Bullseye1

I really need to get a good reference book on watch movements. What would you guys recommend?

Wibbs

Nolimits wrote: »

It's always dodgy buying a wrist watch with a pocket watch movement, the movement will have little or no shock protection and it's designed to be kept relatively still sitting in a pocket, not for the kind of action it would get on a wrist.

Ahh I dunno N. I've a couple of early wristwatches that are all essentially small pocket watch movements with no shock protection and they've lasted 60,70 80 years just fine and never gave me a moments trouble(and I've actually dropped the oldest one to the floor :eek::o). Now it depends on your lifestyle and how that may affect a watch of course. I'd not wear one playing tennis or doing DIY, but they're not that delicate

peasant

With the Molnija movements you can get the modified 3603 version ...with shock protection (the one without is 3602 ...and even that is known to last for decades)



and then there is the fact that due to their bigger size and scale, pocket watch movements aren't THAT delicate in the first place

marcus1971

"Invest in a few blued screws and you have an absolute beauty on your hands."


If you ever wanted to try out making a few blue screws its probably one of the easier mods you can do to a watch with great effect, not much harder than changing a battery. A few sheets of very fine sandpaper, a bottle of alcochol, a heat gun (the ones that look like hairdryers) and a length of copper wire bent into a loop at the end to hold the screw....only takes a few seconds once the screw is prepped and if you F it up all you do is sand, dip and try again

peasant

pretty self explanatory:



a good home for any spare ETA 2824-2 you might have lying around

...or you might want to buy that in their shop as well, while you're at it

http://cgi.ebay.de/SET-SUBMARINER-ETA-2824-CASE-44mm-DIAL-HANDS-ST-BAND-/130519910021?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e6397c685

marcus1971

peasant wrote: »

pretty self explanatory:



a good home for any spare ETA 2824-2 you might have lying around

...or you might want to buy that in their shop as well, while you're at it

http://cgi.ebay.de/SET-SUBMARINER-ETA-2824-CASE-44mm-DIAL-HANDS-ST-BAND-/130519910021?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e6397c685

I've thrown a couple of these together, they actually look pretty good, very solid, easy to make, usually more like 100Euro from actual online stores.....lots of different styles too.
If you were going make one of these best route would be to go for one of the Chinese DG0000 movements with matching sub hands, usually about a tenth of the price of an ETA.

These JLC Polaris style are awesome for the money,

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BOITIER-ACIER-CADRAN-STYLE-POLARIS-POUR-MIYOTA-8215-/120569021011?pt=FR_YO_BijouxMontres_Montres&hash=item1c12794253

and all you need to finish it off is a cheap miyota movt and a set of broad arrow hands should be completed for less than 150 Euro and looks like much much more when finished.

Wibbs

I need a hack watch and god am I sooooo tempted. NATO strap of course... marcus1971 and peasant you tempters you.

peasant

Wibbs wrote: »

marcus1971 and peasant you tempters you.

Oyh!
Not even my wife talks to me like that!

peasant

Something Russian again (for a change )

The Raketa "Kopernik"



35 mm diameter, handwind, new old stock with papers and "box", 45 quid delivered
http://cgi.ebay.ie/RARE-USSR-RUSSIAN-WATCH-RAKETA-A178-/160642023433?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item256702c009

This could also make a nice ladies watch (4 months to Christmas :pac:)

alternatively in silver