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Sean Quagmire · 22-01-2015 9:36am

Mr Detail wrote: »

Have you got a polisher?

If you have, meguiars polishes m105 and m205 are easy enough to work with and will tackle most jobs. It just depends on the car and paint. Carpro fixer & reflect are also quite good, as are the scholl concepts polishing range.

If you don't really have a polisher, your left with just filling them in with a glaze. Srp doesn't do a bad job of hiding swirls but really your right you need to remove them permanently.

Thanks - no i don't have a electric polisher. have considered getting one, is there one you recommend? maybe an orbital one.

I didn't know there was no 'apply by hand' cutting polishes.

MetzgerMeister · 22-01-2015 11:27am

Normally the kind of polishes that you apply by hand are only glossing polishes rather than cutting. If you saw the amount of work a dual action polishing machine does to correct a patch of paintwork, you'll quickly understand why it's impossible to do a correction by hand.

Gordy6040 · 22-01-2015 1:53pm

I've noticed that the car is fogging up a lot. It's a pain in the arse. Anyone have any look with a treatment for this? I've used de fogging spray on masks etc and generally not over impressed with the results.

Foxhole Norman · 22-01-2015 2:17pm

Gordy6040 wrote: »

I've noticed that the car is fogging up a lot. It's a pain in the arse. Anyone have any look with a treatment for this? I've used de fogging spray on masks etc and generally not over impressed with the results.

I'd put a dehumidifier in it first to see if moisture is the problem.

markc1184 · 22-01-2015 2:19pm

Can anyone recommend a good degreaser for cleaning brake calipers? Particularly gold Brembo calipers.

Thanks.

vectra · 22-01-2015 3:07pm

Gordy6040 wrote: »

I've noticed that the car is fogging up a lot. It's a pain in the arse. Anyone have any look with a treatment for this? I've used de fogging spray on masks etc and generally not over impressed with the results.

Curious
What car is it?

Apparently Cat litter in a sock helps in a big way.
Not sure I would loike a sock on my dash every night though

Gordy6040 · 22-01-2015 3:17pm

It happens on both my cars.
Peugeot 308SW and Renault Clio.

The Clio is only used for short trip and every time I get into it the windscreen is foggy with a lot on condensation.

With the 308, its more something that happens when we've been driving for a while.
No sure I want to go the cat litter route!!

MetzgerMeister · 22-01-2015 3:59pm

vectra wrote: »

Curious
What car is it?

Apparently Cat litter in a sock helps in a big way.
Not sure I would loike a sock on my dash every night though

It'll match the bra you wear every day

Gordy6040 · 22-01-2015 5:00pm

Dude , don't get me started. The Clio is something we've had since 2003 - the missus got it.
I've gone from a Subaru with a nice 2.0 WRX engine to a BMW 320, that had a fantastic spec.. to 3 kids , no cash, and a family wagon that was bought based on the boot side (double buggy + shopping) and running costs.

I'll be setting up a pay pal account, anyone who feels that they can contribute to a new motor is welcome to chip in.

Curran · 22-01-2015 5:54pm

Has the cabin filter been changed recently? If not, change it.
Are you using A/C in an attempt to clear the screen quickly? If yes, stop using it, it makes it worse, but yes it clears it quicker. Clean the windscreen well, change the cabin filter, use a few dehumidifier bags if the interior might be slightly damp, dont use the A/C. Should see a return to normal then!

punisher5112 · 22-01-2015 8:06pm

Hi all need to d a big job on vrs and the green callipers are peeling so need to paint does anyone know where could get the green paint.

quadrifoglio verde · 23-01-2015 1:36am

punisher5112 wrote: »

Hi all need to d a big job on vrs and the green callipers are peeling so need to paint does anyone know where could get the green paint.

Halfords?

vectra · 23-01-2015 10:39am

Sock can go under seats as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t4mzMS-ZZ8

Pops_20 · 24-01-2015 4:06pm

I was giving the car a complete detail today, and used Bilt Hamber Korrosol and Orchard Auto Care Tar remover for the first time. I noticed after I used them, there were light brown streaks down certain areas of the car, and these wont come off at the claying stage. Not sure what it was caused by but could be the Tar remover?

Has anyone come across this before or know how to get rid of it?

Mr Detail · 24-01-2015 4:20pm

Pops_20 wrote: »

I was giving the car a complete detail today, and used Bilt Hamber Korrosol and Orchard Auto Care Tar remover for the first time. I noticed after I used them, there were light brown streaks down certain areas of the car, and these wont come off at the claying stage. Not sure what it was caused by but could be the Tar remover?

Has anyone come across this before or know how to get rid of it?

Did you wipe the Tar away with a Microfibre cloth as your Tar remover was working?

I havent used orchards tar remover but their stuff is all savage quality.

MetzgerMeister · 24-01-2015 4:43pm

Pops_20 wrote: »

I was giving the car a complete detail today, and used Bilt Hamber Korrosol and Orchard Auto Care Tar remover for the first time. I noticed after I used them, there were light brown streaks down certain areas of the car, and these wont come off at the claying stage. Not sure what it was caused by but could be the Tar remover?

Has anyone come across this before or know how to get rid of it?

Those streaks are proof that the tar remover worked. It melts the tar and when it starts to do this, that's when you have to wipe it in order to remove that tar. What happened in your case is that you let the tar remover dry in. Just give the area another spray and when you see it drip again, wipe it all (including the tar) off the surface.

Curran · 24-01-2015 4:53pm

Yeah, as above, it will probably need a light misting to remove the dried in tar streaks.

Pops_20 · 24-01-2015 5:05pm

Thanks guys, I'll give that a shot.

Orchard Auto care tar remover is powerful stuff alright, but I've nearly used the whole bottle on the car! Should it last longer than that? The car did have very heavy tar spots around the arches.

Curran · 24-01-2015 5:08pm

If the car was very bad, then it is possible that a large quantity of the bottle will be used. Perhaps you were a bit heavy handed with it too, if it was your first time using it.

Pops_20 · 24-01-2015 5:16pm

Possibly a bit heavy handed. The sprayer that I used with it doesn't produce a mist, it comes out in a line of fluid, and I don't have great aim :pac: , so I probably ended up using way more than necessary

Mr Detail · 24-01-2015 5:23pm

Pops_20 wrote: »

Possibly a bit heavy handed. The sprayer that I used with it doesn't produce a mist, it comes out in a line of fluid, and I don't have great aim :pac: , so I probably ended up using way more than necessary

Ya a mist will help that. With tar removers. I usually do a spray over an area. Give it a minute to work, then give another light spray, wait 30 seconds and then wipe clear. The only caution is if a tar spot remains, rather than rubbing like crazy just hit it again with a little spray.

Pops_20 · 24-01-2015 5:31pm

Ok, these streaks are proving quite difficult to remove right now. Maybe another few sprays and hopefully they will come off

Curran · 24-01-2015 5:47pm

Have you got a picture of the streaks!

Also, the sprayer is adjustable. Twist the tip, and it will change from a jet to a mist!

Pops_20 · 24-01-2015 6:07pm

Curran wrote: »

Have you got a picture of the streaks!

Also, the sprayer is adjustable. Twist the tip, and it will change from a jet to a mist!

No pics sorry, the camera won't pick them up properly! They're very feint now, maybe I should give it another 4-5 sprays and that might do it?

MetzgerMeister · 24-01-2015 6:31pm

You have to spray the tar remover on and then wipe the whole lot away with a microfibre cloth or similar. It's not just going to disappear by spraying it.

myshirt · 24-01-2015 7:00pm

On the issue of dried in products, what is the best way to remove?

So, polish residue ---> IPA
Wax Residue ---> Quick Detailer *

What about dried on TFR, Citrus Cleaner, G101, or even frozen snow foam? :pac:

*I'm talking if you haven't worked the polish enough, to a haze, or left it dry on; broken your arm trying to buff; or you've left the wax cure too long.

MetzgerMeister · 24-01-2015 7:05pm

IPA will break down the likes of polish and wax as they are usually oil or silicon based.

To remove TFR or any of the other things you mentioned, just wash the car again.

Curran · 24-01-2015 7:07pm

Polish Residue* - IPA will work, but there is also specific products like Menzerna Top Inspection, CarPro Eraser, Meguiar's Final Inspection, gtechniq Panel Wipe
Wax Residue* - same as above, but if you mean on the paintwork, usually another light application and not letting it cure for as long will make it easier to remove.

Dried TFR, Citrus Cleaner, G101....shouldnt be letting them dry out - same said for Tar Removers or Fallout Removers

Polish* - but to clear it up for paintwork....obviously you dont want to remove hand polish due to their filling properties, but for machine polish, it always needs to be removed, especially if going for some of the ultra durable coatings.

Pops_20 · 24-01-2015 7:10pm

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

You have to spray the tar remover on and then wipe the whole lot away with a microfibre cloth or similar. It's not just going to disappear by spraying it.

I've been doing it that way. Spray on, leave for a few minutes and wipe away with a microfibre towel, and then wash the car again when I'm done to remove the residue.

MetzgerMeister · 24-01-2015 7:14pm

+1 on what Curran said about the wax residue. Another application to soften up the dried on stuff and it's fine.

Pops - I think you might be leaving it too long so it's all drying in. just spray it and wipe almost immediately. All you're trying to do right now is remove the dried-in stuff. Once this is gone then have another go at removing the tar.

myshirt · 24-01-2015 7:17pm

You shouldn't leave them dry, but it can happen. Apply away from sunlight, most people get that, but also very cold panels can cause drying, or frozen snow foam/lance solution / tfr.

I'm was wondering would you nearly have to polish to remove the after effect.

Curran · 24-01-2015 7:20pm

To be fair, neither should happen - if snowfoam, TFR, etc get frozen to the car....what do you do when your windscreen is frozen?
Lash a bucket of lukewarm water over the affected area!

And you shouldnt be using TFR! :P

Slattsy · 24-01-2015 7:24pm

Anyone know anything about Keoghs
http://www.keoghscarvaleting.com/index.html

Mr Detail · 24-01-2015 7:34pm

Slattsy wrote: »

Anyone know anything about Keoghs
http://www.keoghscarvaleting.com/index.html

Very nice and genuine guy and turns out good work from what I seen.

Curran · 24-01-2015 7:35pm

Dont know Trevor - but follow him on Twitter, and he seems to turn out some really nice work!

bbari · 24-01-2015 9:46pm

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After washing and drying the car, i applied the Autoglym Rapid Detailer. when i was wiping it off it was leaving black spots which look like kind of tar. They disappeared when i wiped it off with the wet towel which i had used to dry the car. Any idea why that happens? I didn't leave the detailer long or anything. These marks only appeared after i wiped off detailer with a dry mf cloth...

Gordy6040 · 26-01-2015 11:38am

Meguiar's DA Power System
Does anyone have any opinions on this as a polishing tool? Details from halfords here

Curran · 26-01-2015 12:01pm

Interesting, seems like a good idea. Id reserve judgement until using it, but in reality Im not sure how effective it would be. It looks like its a bit awkward to use, your hand holding the trigger on the drill is quite high making it an awkward posture...not ideal doing a whole car, though, it probably wouldn't be an issue on vertical panels.

quadrifoglio verde · 26-01-2015 12:05pm

Gordy6040 wrote: »

Meguiar's DA Power System
Does anyone have any opinions on this as a polishing tool? Details from halfords here

For correction, I'd say it isn't worth while, as the rpm isn't high enough.
And you're better of waxing your car by hand, if you've ever waxed a car with a da, you'll know why

Mr Detail · 26-01-2015 1:12pm

For another 50 quid or so you'd have a das6 polisher, and I know that's quite a bit more but it would be worth it in my opinion.

I haven't used the above of course but it looks awkward and the fact it's around a while and not that popular speaks volumes in my opinion.

Curran · 26-01-2015 1:53pm

bbari wrote: »

After washing and drying the car, i applied the Autoglym Rapid Detailer. when i was wiping it off it was leaving black spots which look like kind of tar. They disappeared when i wiped it off with the wet towel which i had used to dry the car. Any idea why that happens? I didn't leave the detailer long or anything. These marks only appeared after i wiped off detailer with a dry mf cloth...

That is very strange bbari - only for you said it was like tar, thats what I would have said!

What have you got on the paintwork, not that it should make any difference really.

bbari · 26-01-2015 2:16pm

Curran wrote: »

That is very strange bbari - only for you said it was like tar, thats what I would have said!

What have you got on the paintwork, not that it should make any difference really.

Sorry, I should have taken better pics!

A couple of week after buying the car (Sep) I put a coat of 845, a month later, a coat of Fusso, then a few later a coat of Softt99 King of Gloss. . As I said above, these marks appeared when I was wiping off the AG quick detailer,

The madness crazy towel cloth i was wiping with was used for buffing wax before - could it be due to that as I never washed the towel after using 3/4 times ? or the only other thing i could thinks of is .. could it be due to a cold morning ?

I'm not an expert but i think the surface is pretty smooth and it beads well-ish

, not sure if this means that surface is clean. This is the pic this morning..

Curran · 26-01-2015 2:24pm

Looks good to me!

Gordy6040 · 26-01-2015 4:14pm

Mr Detail wrote: »

For another 50 quid or so you'd have a das6 polisher, and I know that's quite a bit more but it would be worth it in my opinion.

I haven't used the above of course but it looks awkward and the fact it's around a while and not that popular speaks volumes in my opinion.

I always figured that they were more expensive .

Ah, so the Das 6 a standard rather then a brand or model.
I see this one here which looks like a standard enough piece of kit. Anywhere in Ireland these things are available from? just wondering if i can save on the postage.

Cheers

*Kol* · 28-01-2015 2:44pm

quadrifoglio verde wrote: »

For correction, I'd say it isn't worth while, as the rpm isn't high enough.
And you're better of waxing your car by hand, if you've ever waxed a car with a da, you'll know why

So is there any need to have a DA polishing machine at all if your car is fairly swirl free and you really take care washing, claying and waxing it? I spotted one for not bad money and was thinking of getting it, but how much would i use it in reality?

Mr Detail · 28-01-2015 2:50pm

Gordy6040 wrote: »

I always figured that they were more expensive .

Ah, so the Das 6 a standard rather then a brand or model.
I see this one here which looks like a standard enough piece of kit. Anywhere in Ireland these things are available from? just wondering if i can save on the postage.

Cheers

The das6 is kind of recognised as the best beginner friendly da. A good few companies rebrand them but they are essentially the exact same piece of kit. I have one left in Stock as it happens. Ha ha.

Kol in fairness if your happy with your paint and the finish there is no need for a da. Some people quite like using them for applying all in one polishes and glazes as well but it's mainly down to the individual I guess.

*Kol* · 28-01-2015 4:03pm

Mr Detail wrote: »

The das6 is kind of recognised as the best beginner friendly da. A good few companies rebrand them but they are essentially the exact same piece of kit. I have one left in Stock as it happens. Ha ha.

Kol in fairness if your happy with your paint and the finish there is no need for a da. Some people quite like using them for applying all in one polishes and glazes as well but it's mainly down to the individual I guess.

Thanks for the reply. I might use it on the camper to bring up the finish as its badly in need. Would save a lot of elbow grease over an area that big. What's your opinion about waffle pads vs flat pads for the DA?

Mr Detail · 28-01-2015 4:23pm

Its just a personal preference but I am not a fan of the waffle pads, not that they don't work or anything. I prefer "flat" foam pads, although I use lake country and cg hexlogic pads and they are not completely flat either.

Certainly make doing the camper a bit easier on the arm anyway.

*Kol* · 28-01-2015 5:38pm

Just after sitting into the car and have made a scratch with a rivet on my jeans. Black Audi leather. Is there something I can get to touch it up or colour where I have scratched?

Heathen · 29-01-2015 1:26am

Lads,

for small scratch to clear coat i want to rub approx 2000 grit wet... and then hit it with polishing compound to bring the shine back..... would a DA polisher do the trick here or would it be a job for a rotary?

I have read somewhere that a DA is only good for swirl removal and not good for paint correction type stuff?

H

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