Cillian Murphy's looking rough

kowloon · 08-05-2019 9:34pm

JayZeus wrote: »

That animal is better suited to forced labour on a chain gang. Give me a whip and a Winchester and I’ll get my own horse and Stetson.

I'll practice my southern accent if you get some chew.

Yer Da sells Avon · 08-05-2019 9:34pm

JayZeus wrote: »

You’re not great at reading the room either. As I’ve told you before, it’s hard to be angry with someone when I’m laughing at them.

At, not with.

Sorry, I've no recollection of ever interacting with you before. You do seem angry though, despite your protestations. A stranger's crap joke on the internet isn't worth responding to, let alone getting yourself all worked up over.

Noveight · 08-05-2019 9:37pm

158 previous convictions? She couldn’t live by the laws of society if she was paid to!

Length of rope and a 4 foot drop. Case closed.

mfceiling · 08-05-2019 9:37pm

She gave Ruth credit for her plea, her personal circumstances, her remorse

So there you have it. Just say sorry and that is taken in to account when sentencing. Should knock a few months off.

Peatys · 08-05-2019 9:38pm

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

You do seem angry though.

Shouldn't bother you this much, let it go. Life's too short to let people live in your head rent free

08-05-2019 9:39pm

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

Sorry, I've no recollection of ever interacting with you before. You do seem angry though, despite your protestations. A stranger's crap joke on the internet isn't worth responding to, let alone getting yourself all worked up over.

You seem a bit needy, to be fair. And pointing out to you that I’m laughing at you isn’t a protestation or getting worked up. You try that on a fair bit but I’m not bothered by you. Every village needs someone like you.

Titzon Toast · 08-05-2019 9:39pm

Jesus, who got up on that thing? Twice!

Peatys · 08-05-2019 9:40pm

Titzon Toast wrote: »

Jesus, who got up on that thing? Twice!

Drugs can be a terrible thing in the wrong hands

08-05-2019 9:42pm

JayZeus wrote: »

You seem a bit needy, to be fair. And pointing out to you that I’m laughing at you isn’t a protestation or getting worked up. You try that on a fair bit but I’m not bothered by you. Every village needs someone like you.

Ah you sound a bit worked up in fairness

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 08-05-2019 9:43pm

Boiling water? What a scumbag. I’m glad that the victim had no permanent scarring. That could have been so much worse.

Reminds me of an incident I had happen to me in a city centre shop about six or seven years ago. A security guard told a teenage boy to give back the 500ml bottle of coke he had just shoplifted. I was standing between the two. The teenager was at the door, the guard by the till. The teenager flung the unopened bottle at the security guard. It flew past my head, just missing me and I could tell from the spin on the bottle that it was flung with some considerable force. I was so relieved that it didn’t hit my head. I think some sort of injury would have resulted. Scumbags gonna scumbag. :mad:

08-05-2019 9:44pm

kowloon wrote: »

I'll practice my southern accent if you get some chew.

Deal. Bring you bring your own damned spitoon and rocking chair for the porch. And I ain’t sharing my beans, or my mash.

If we get this up and running, I get to kick her square in the box the first time she falls down on all fours. You can recite bible passages while her junkie tears turn the dust to mud.

08-05-2019 9:47pm

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Ah you sound a bit worked up in fairness

My words only sound the way you voice them in your own mind. My only hostility here is towards that useless bag of guts throwing boiling water on someone who gets up and goes to work each day.

Yer Da sells Avon · 08-05-2019 9:50pm

JayZeus wrote: »

I’m not bothered by you.

You do seem bothered. Anyway, last thing I wanted to do this evening was bother someone, so I'd just like to say I'm sorry. Genuinely.

08-05-2019 9:51pm

JayZeus wrote: »

My words only sound the way you voice them in your own mind. My only hostility here is towards that useless bag of guts throwing boiling water on someone who gets up and goes to work each day.

She's not totally useless. Maybe not you I don't know you, but she's given a lot of angry people a way to vent.

super_furry · 08-05-2019 9:53pm

In fairness though, how can she protect you in this craaaaaazy world?

08-05-2019 9:58pm

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

She's not totally useless. Maybe not you I don't know you, but she's given a lot of angry people a way to vent.

She’d be useful if ahe could pull a plough or swing a hammer to break rocks.

Otherwise all I see is an argument in favour of sterilisation of repeat offenders, mandatory sentencing and more power for the state to remove children at birth from people who never should have been able to breed.

She’s a walking speed bump.

08-05-2019 10:10pm

JayZeus wrote: »

She’d be useful if ahe could pull a plough or swing a hammer to break rocks.

Hard labour. Why has nobody thought of that before??!

fonecrusher1 · 08-05-2019 10:14pm

Noveight wrote: »

158 previous convictions? She couldn’t live by the laws of society if she was paid to!

Length of rope and a 4 foot drop. Case closed.

In a way though society has failed her.

Fr_Dougal · 08-05-2019 10:21pm

If we say that she got her first conviction at the age of 10, that’s a conviction every 10 weeks so far in her life. Madness.

Keyzer · 09-05-2019 10:27am

Judge Melanie Greally sentenced Ruth to three years imprisonment, but suspended the final 18 months on condition that she keep the peace and be of good behaviour and follow all direction of the Probation Service for 18 months post release.

Great decision from the Judge - because she's really demonstrated she can adhere to this through the behaviour which led to her previous 158 convictions.

What a joke of a country...

partyguinness · 09-05-2019 10:29am

I love the 'She gave Ruth credit for her plea, her personal circumstances, her remorse and her favourable engagement with drugs services.

Playing the game to perfection.

TerrorFirmer · 09-05-2019 10:30am

The most terrifying part about is that 158 convictions - things she's been caught doing and charged over - is likely only a drop in the ocean of the criminal acts actually carried out.

sbsquarepants · 09-05-2019 10:36am

Sonny noggs wrote: »

The banks, the banks, the banks...some do gooder will be along to say the banks cost much more than these individuals cost us.

Whereas I've little doubt this particular yummy mummy has been a net drain on the state coffers, I'd be quite surprised to learn her account had run to minus 60billion.

But I'm just guessing of course, do you know the actual cost?;)

Mantis Toboggan · 09-05-2019 10:39am

Keyzer wrote: »

Judge Melanie Greally sentenced Ruth to three years imprisonment, but suspended the final 18 months on condition that she keep the peace and be of good behaviour and follow all direction of the Probation Service for 18 months post release.

Great decision from the Judge - because she's really demonstrated she can adhere to this through the behaviour which led to her previous 158 convictions.

What a joke of a country...

Judges in this country are a law onto themselves, absolute disgrace.

topper75 · 09-05-2019 10:40am

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Do you want the maths or not?

The people who say that have things like "numbers" and "facts" and other such lefty notions behind them

Ah she threw boiling water at a worker's face!!!!

The notion of the "left" being about workers' rights is far too quaint for some champagne socialist mouths and limousine liberals out there today.

Noveight · 09-05-2019 10:54am

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

In a way though society has failed her.

You're right there I suppose. To suggest the gallows was a knee-jerk reaction.

However, is it society's responsibility to save this woman from herself?

partyguinness · 09-05-2019 11:38am

This woman is a career criminal. Jail holds no fear for her. In fact she will just catch up with the friends and family. Warm bed and board, drugs, no bills to worry about. Just a little getaway for her.

Open house at Mountjoy where she can come and go as she pleases and released in a few months. She won't even serve 6 months before she is left back out.

Deebles McBeebles · 09-05-2019 12:19pm

I thought this was a genuine thread about Cillian Murphy after falling off the wagon or something so skipped it til now. This is much better.

partyguinness · 09-05-2019 12:20pm

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

I thought this was a genuine thread about Cillian Murphy after falling off the wagon or something so skipped it til now. This is much better.

It is.

He is at rock bottom- hard to believe it.

freshpopcorn · 09-05-2019 12:34pm

How many of the 18 months will she serve if she behaves inside?

partyguinness · 09-05-2019 12:44pm

freshpopcorn wrote: »

How many of the 18 months will she serve if she behaves inside?

I would say 2-3mts at best.

Dyr · 09-05-2019 12:49pm

Perhaps a 158-strikes-and-you're-out law would be handy?

Cue pissing and moaning from the do gooder contingent

mcmoustache · 09-05-2019 12:51pm

158 convictions is a bit much though. I mean it's one thing for someone to do something silly in their lives that get them a conviction but it's another thing entirely to rack up as many as she has. There is clearly something wrong with her and I'm not sure that our justice system is properly handling such cases.

For most of us, 6 months in jail would be a huge deal and something that we would want to avoid. It would damage our reputations and our ability to make an income. In short, it's a deterrent for most of us.

Now, with people like this who don't give a shíte, what should be done? It's clear that the justice system isn't a deterrent because, well, 158 convictions. What's being done isn't working for people like this.

Personally, I think that some sort of escalating sentencing might work and by "work" I mean keeping such people away from the public for longer and longer. The thing is, judges do has some discretion here. They should be able to recognise that some people are not being deterred by short and suspended sentences and they should increase them when it's obvious that the criminal doesn't give a shíte. Nobody should be able to get those sorts of numbers and anyone on those numbers shouldn't be around the general public.

partyguinness · 09-05-2019 1:00pm

mcmoustache wrote: »

158 convictions is a bit much though. I mean it's one thing for someone to do something silly in their lives that get them a conviction but it's another thing entirely to rack up as many as she has. There is clearly something wrong with her and I'm not sure that our justice system is properly handling such cases.

For most of us, 6 months in jail would be a huge deal and something that we would want to avoid. It would damage our reputations and our ability to make an income. In short, it's a deterrent for most of us.

Now, with people like this who don't give a shíte, what should be done? It's clear that the justice system isn't a deterrent because, well, 158 convictions. What's being done isn't working for people like this.

Personally, I think that some sort of escalating sentencing might work and by "work" I mean keeping such people away from the public for longer and longer. The thing is, judges do has some discretion here. They should be able to recognise that some people are not being deterred by short and suspended sentences and they should increase them when it's obvious that the criminal doesn't give a shíte. Nobody should be able to get those sorts of numbers and anyone on those numbers shouldn't be around the general public.

She is a career criminal.

Don't make the mistake of thinking that she thinks like the rest of us or try to rationalise her behaviour or get inside her head- she doesn't think like the rest of us.

You don't criticize a dog for ****ting in the street- that's what dogs do. Like child abusers- some of them genuinely do not see that they are doing anything wrong.

She does not know any better.

09-05-2019 1:23pm

partyguinness wrote: »

I love the 'She gave Ruth credit for her plea, her personal circumstances, her remorse and her favourable engagement with drugs services.

Playing the game to perfection.

If the judge doesn't point out those considerations at sentencing, she'd be leaving an open goal for the Defence to appeal the sentence.

It isn't clear how much time the judge deducted from the headline penalty for simply having pleaded guilty, for example. It may only have been a few weeks' deduction.

But it is worth remarking that it saved the State (and a dozen jurors) a considerable waste of time and money, and it saved Gardaí a lot of resources too, since there needed to be no trial, and the investigation seems to have been cooperative. It's worth *something*,

partyguinness · 09-05-2019 1:44pm

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

If the judge doesn't point out those considerations at sentencing, she'd be leaving an open goal for the Defence to appeal the sentence.

It isn't clear how much time the judge deducted from the headline penalty for simply having pleaded guilty, for example. It may only have been a few weeks' deduction.

But it is worth remarking that it saved the State (and a dozen jurors) a considerable waste of time and money, and it saved Gardaí a lot of resources too, since there needed to be no trial, and the investigation seems to have been cooperative. It's worth *something*,

I agree but my overall point is that 'Ruth' knows well what to do and say.

Likewise the Judge knows damn well that she will see her again in a few months. The prison will just release her after a weeks anyway so the amount knocked off the sentence is in reality neither here nor there.

mcmoustache · 09-05-2019 2:34pm

partyguinness wrote: »

She is a career criminal.

Don't make the mistake of thinking that she thinks like the rest of us or try to rationalise her behaviour or get inside her head- she doesn't think like the rest of us.

You don't criticize a dog for ****ting in the street- that's what dogs do. Like child abusers- some of them genuinely do not see that they are doing anything wrong.

She does not know any better.

Oh I know. There's a massive difference between someone like that and the 90-odd percent of us who would be deterred by just having our names in the papers due to a court appearance.

People like this woman, and there are plenty of them out there simply don't give a shíte and I doubt that they ever will. This is why I think long sentences would be the way to go. It won't fix people like this but it will stop them being a nuisance.

Unfortunately, this will be very difficult as a long sentence could be appealed on the basis of being disproportionate. If it were up to me and there were no legal restrictions on what I could impose, I'd happily ship such people off to Saudi Arabia to serve their sentences and I wouldn't feel bad about it at all.

The problem is that this won't happen. The only way that this gets sorted is through legislation and sentencing guidelines which are currently inadequate in dealing with such people.

JupiterKid · 09-05-2019 2:37pm

Classy lady.

But seriously, 150+ convictions? Many of them possibly violent? At this stage that woman (who DOES bear a passing resemblance to Cillian Murphy) needs a good stretch inside.

Our legal system is completely dysfunctional and the "justice" it dispenses is ineffectual for serial offenders who know nothing other than a life of addiction and crime.

Sinus pain · 09-05-2019 3:09pm

She’ll also get a free travel pass to get her to her drugs treatment

partyguinness · 09-05-2019 3:11pm

I have experience of working within the court system and I was exposed to these cretins.

Honestly, Court appearances to them are like popping down to the shop for the rest of us. It's the most natural thing in the world.

Family day out sometimes with multi generations all stuck in the same cycle. They have nothing to lose, live off the state and petty crime.

The likes of her have absolutely no interest in 'changing her ways'. She honestly does not know any different and her way of life is absolutely normal.

marvin80 · 09-05-2019 3:13pm

"Ruth, of Spring Garden Street, North Strand, Dublin has 158 previous convictions, mostly for shoplifting and public order offences.

Judge Melanie Greally sentenced Ruth to three years imprisonment, but suspended the final 18 months on condition that she keep the peace and be of good behaviour and follow all direction of the Probation Service for 18 months post release."

Why are the final 18 months being suspended - with 158 previous convictions it's very doubtful she'll keep the peace - lock her away for the full 3 years - ridiculous stuff

tayto lover · 09-05-2019 3:22pm

Those people don’t know the meaning of the word sorry. They know that it will get them a lower sentence though.
Shame on a system that cuts sentences for people with such high offending rates. It clearly isn’t working.

partyguinness · 09-05-2019 3:22pm

People need to understand what happens when someone like this get jailed. The Governor of the jail (not the Courts) takes the decision to release them when they feel like it.

I saw a guy sentenced to 90 days in jail on a Monday (handcuffed and taken off) and much to my surprise the following Monday he was in to see me. He said he spent one night in Cork jail and let out the following morning (this guys had nearly 50 convictions). All petty stuff.

Apparently that is the norm.

So in reality she will be stuck in there for a few months and then out the gap when they need to free up some space.

M5 · 09-05-2019 7:01pm

I swear your honor, I've learned my lesson. The 159th time is the charm!

09-05-2019 7:06pm

partyguinness wrote: »

So in reality she will be stuck in there for a few months and then out the gap when they need to free up some space.

I imagine that's a particular problem given that we have only two women's prisons in the country. I think there are only about 150 places in total, so you'd wonder about the consistency with which sentences can be completed at all.

Brendan Delaney · 09-05-2019 7:27pm

'People' like her need to be put into work camps.

seasidedub · 10-05-2019 12:03am

Always nice to see a photo of one of the recipients of our tax euros.

Yes - it doesn't say she's a welfare queen, but what are the chances she's not????

Christ, I haul my bum out of bed at 5.45am every weekday, drive an hour each way and pay nearly half of what I earn for this sh%$e...

Is there any political party who has the balls to grasp the welfare nettle??

10-05-2019 12:14am

seasidedub wrote: »

Christ, I haul my bum out of bed at 5.45am every weekday, drive an hour each way and pay nearly half of what I earn for this sh%$e...

Here's a back-of-the-envelope calculation that should put your mind at rest.

A worker on 50k a year, who works 39 hours every week, will put 15 minutes of their tax contributions towards all jobseekers expenditure.

That's assuming that nobody on a jobseekers payment has funded their own welfare payments through their taxes (so even 15 minutes is obviously an overstatement).

A small fraction of that time will go towards long-term layabouts (and they definitely do exist, of course).

I wonder how many people spend longer than 15 minutes complaining about this problem, in real life or online?

kowloon · 10-05-2019 12:35am

Just one small mistake, 158 times.

mynamejeff · 10-05-2019 12:38am

Another specimen who should never be allowed to see the light of day ever again in order to protect innocent people from her,

but if your a judge of a politician you dont care about that sort of thing

Cillian Murphy's looking rough

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