Syrian boy bullied in Huddersfield

Cockford Ollie · 28-11-2018 4:41pm

> Ethnic person commits crime against white person
> Someone posts about it
> Response: "What does that person's race have to do with it?"

> White person commits crime against ethnic person
> Liberal lefty outrage
> Go Fund Me page set up
> Shout racist a million times

Hummm

WinnyThePoo · 28-11-2018 4:43pm

Cockford Ollie wrote: »

> Ethnic person commits crime against white person
> Someone posts about it
> Response: "What does that person's race have to do with it?"

> White person commits crime against ethnic person
> Liberal lefty outrage
> Go Fund Me page set up
> Shout racist a million times

Hummm

>Person gets banned from forum
> Consistently re-regs
> Life ambitions met

Steve F · 28-11-2018 4:45pm

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

2, 7, 14, 22, 37, 38,44.

Fixed it for ya Pete

AryaStark · 28-11-2018 4:50pm

John Sacrimoni wrote: »

If he that was an english lad getting bullied you wouldnt hear anything about this. Just saying.

Posts like this make me hate boards.. and idiots like you make me sick

Just Saying!

Gimme A Pound · 28-11-2018 4:52pm

Cockford Ollie wrote: »

> Ethnic person commits crime against white person
> Someone posts about it
> Response: "What does that person's race have to do with it?"

> White person commits crime against ethnic person
> Liberal lefty outrage
> Go Fund Me page set up
> Shout racist a million times

Hummm

I know there are double standards but I think you've picked the wrong example. This boy was being bullied because of his ethnicity. So it was racist - on top of the bullying itself and life in Syria and fleeing from it. You hardly have to be a "liberal lefty" to object to that. People always get angered over any defenceless person being bullied.

It's never good, no matter how strongly you feel about something, to run out of empathy completely.

I think the Go Fund Me thing is a bit bizarre but it's a way to show support. There was also a fundraiser for the lady on the bus a few years back in the US after she was tormented by kids.

lawred2 · 28-11-2018 5:05pm

AryaStark wrote: »

Posts like this make me hate boards.. and idiots like you make me sick

Just Saying!

12 likes that got as well

weldoninhio · 28-11-2018 5:10pm

Charleigh Tight Ferry wrote: »

I know there are double standards but I think you've picked the wrong example. This boy was being bullied because of his ethnicity. So it was racist - on top of the bullying itself and life in Syria and fleeing from it. You hardly have to be a "liberal lefty" to object to that. People always get angered over any defenceless person being bullied.

It's never good, no matter how strongly you feel about something, to run out of empathy completely.

I think the Go Fund Me thing is a bit bizarre but it's a way to show support. There was also a fundraiser for the lady on the bus a few years back in the US after she was tormented by kids.

Have you got anything, absolutely anything, to show that this was due to his ethnicity?? The "bully" literally said "what are you saying now" before having a go at him, which would make me think that the guy who was "bullied" had been mouthing off previously. Unless "what are you saying now" has some ethnic undertone that i'm not seeing.

ohnonotgmail · 28-11-2018 5:10pm

weldoninhio wrote: »

Have you got anything, absolutely anything, to show that this was due to his ethnicity?? The "bully" literally said "what are you saying now" before having a go at him, which would make me think that the guy who was "bullied" had been mouthing off previously. Unless "what are you saying now" has some ethnic undertone that i'm not seeing.

i think the fact he is a fan of tommy robinson might have some bearing.

weldoninhio · 28-11-2018 5:12pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

i think the fact he is a fan of tommy robinson might have some bearing.

Jaysus! :rolleyes:

ohnonotgmail · 28-11-2018 5:13pm

weldoninhio wrote: »

Jaysus! :rolleyes:

Well we all know how much Tommy loves those immigrants.

28-11-2018 5:14pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

i think the fact he is a fan of tommy robinson might have some bearing.

:rolleyes:

weldoninhio · 28-11-2018 5:15pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Well we all know how much Tommy loves those immigrants.

Gets on fairly well with Maajid Nawaz, amongst other immigrants.

ohnonotgmail · 28-11-2018 5:15pm

Deleted User wrote: »

:rolleyes:

at least your mate managed some actual words, stupid and all as they were.

ohnonotgmail · 28-11-2018 5:16pm

weldoninhio wrote: »

Gets on fairly well with Maajid Nawaz, amongst other immigrants.

what, no emoji?

weldoninhio · 28-11-2018 5:18pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

what, no emoji?

I pointed out that you were wrong, and that he has quite a few immigrant pals, and that's your retort?? Shows the level of debate around here.

ohnonotgmail · 28-11-2018 5:23pm

weldoninhio wrote: »

I pointed out that you were wrong, and that he has quite a few immigrant pals, and that's your retort??

you have done nothing of the sort.

weldoninhio wrote: »

Shows the level of debate around here.

your first response was

Jaysus!

Not sure you are in any position to talk about level of debate.

weldoninhio · 28-11-2018 5:25pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

you have done nothing of the sort.

your first response was

Not sure you are in any position to talk about level of debate.

My first response was to you after saying that this was a racially motivated attack because the "bully" liked Tommy Robinson. All it deserved was "Jaysus :rolleyes:" in response.

Back on topic, anything to add on the actual event without speculation and falsehoods??

evolving tipperary · 28-11-2018 5:27pm

Faugheen wrote: »

Just as I expected,

Well, hello eighties TV generic detective personality...

*** Agree with what you're saying though.

ohnonotgmail · 28-11-2018 5:28pm

weldoninhio wrote: »

My first response was to you after saying that this was a racially motivated attack because the "bully" liked Tommy Robinson. All it deserved was "Jaysus :rolleyes:" in response.

Back on topic, anything to add on the actual event without speculation and falsehoods??

what have a speculated on? the boy in question is a fan of Tommy Robinson. It is on his FB page.

4068ac1elhodqr · 28-11-2018 5:33pm

The contextual factors associated with Huddersfiled (where this took place) are probably relevant to this unfortunate incident.
There was many cases of racial discrimination (on both sides).

e.g. Young white school girls were specifically targetted by an ethnic grooming gang (jailed earlier this year for 220yrs, think the ringleader is even appealing the charge).
One girl was 'abused' by over 100 men, only white girls were the victims, and no white men were the perpetrators of this gang.

Unfortunately, imagine Huddersfield will be a hotbed of tension for many years to come.

mirwillbeback · 28-11-2018 5:33pm

The thing is, if you stand up to bullies, the bullying will stop.

I know this, I have bullied many people.

weldoninhio · 28-11-2018 5:45pm

Daniella Early Comet wrote: »

The contextual factors associated with Huddersfiled (where this took place) are probably relevant to this unfortunate incident.
There was many cases of racial discrimination (on both sides).

e.g. Young white school girls were specifically targetted by an ethnic grooming gang (jailed earlier this year for 220yrs, think the ringleader is even appealing the charge).
One girl was 'abused' by over 100 men, only white girls were the victims, and no white men were the perpetrators of this gang.

Unfortunately, imagine Huddersfield will be a hotbed of tension for many years to come.

Thats jumping the gun a bit. We've zero evidence that this was racially motivated.

28-11-2018 5:52pm

ohnonotgmail wrote:

at least your mate managed some actual words, stupid and all as they were.

Because we agree on certain points we are "mates"? I'm sure if I met him I would find him to be a nice guy but then again, we may disagree on other subjects.

In much the same way that people can agree with and like Tommy Robinson on some aspects and disagree and dislike him on some.

Or does everyone who likes Tommy Robinson a literal nazi?

orourkeda1977 · 28-11-2018 5:55pm

How many kids from Huddersfield have received police protection after they got battered in school?

circadian · 28-11-2018 6:06pm

orourkeda1977 wrote: »

How many kids from Huddersfield have received police protection after they got battered in school?

I wouldn't know but it is a dog rough town. I felt safer in the Bogside in the 80s than Huddersfield to be honest.

evolving tipperary · 28-11-2018 6:08pm

orourkeda1977 wrote: »

How many kids from Huddersfield have received police protection after they got battered in school?

How many kids have come from a war-torn society and land - where they've witnessed, up close and personal, the worst of war and human nature - to come to a 'civilised' country to be bullied?

How many?

Think these people deserve help and protection - think it's a great message to send to the Syrian community and the Huddersfield community - these people need help and protection to properly integrate...

A Dub in Glasgo · 28-11-2018 6:14pm

What a car crash of a thread

The bully will get his comeuppance

It is not Tommy Robinson, it is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon

weldoninhio · 28-11-2018 8:01pm

evolving tipperary wrote: »

How many kids have come from a war-torn society and land - where they've witnessed, up close and personal, the worst of war and human nature - to come to a 'civilised' country to be bullied?

How many?

Think these people deserve help and protection - think it's a great message to send to the Syrian community and the Huddersfield community - these people need help and protection to properly integrate...

Another poster who knows the young chap and his back story/what he’s witnessed etc. What a coincidence that so many in here know him.

evolving tipperary · 28-11-2018 8:12pm

weldoninhio wrote: »

Another poster who knows the young chap and his back story/what he’s witnessed etc. What a coincidence that so many in here know him.

It's called reading about a subject and then expanding that reading. Keeping up with the news. Being informed. Try it some time, it's quite enlighting.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/28/schoolboy-to-be-charged-over-huddersfield-attack-on-refugee-15

'Tasnime Akunjee, a solicitor representing the family, said they were considering moving away from the area and had received offers to be rehomed in Oxford.

He said the couple’s daughter, who attends the same school, had been bullied by another group of pupils. Last week someone forcibly removed the girl’s hijab. On Tuesday a girl was excluded from the school over the incident.

Akunjee said the family had contacted him and their local MP, Barry Sheerman, a month ago. “The family had concerns about their children and the environment their children were in at school. They weren’t sure how to engage assistance because of the language barrier. We were so concerned about these children that we contacted the school, council and the local police.”

The family came to Huddersfield two years ago after fleeing persecution under the Bashar al-Assad regime in Syria. They first went to Lebanon, where they lived for six years, and were later given safe passage to Britain by the UN before being resettled in 2016.'

statesaver · 28-11-2018 8:15pm

Teenager bully’s teenager, well I never

Mate of mine saying there is a Go Fund Me page for the young lad getting bullied.

Is that true ?

Billy86 · 28-11-2018 8:16pm

Threads like this always serve as a good reminder that some people are indeed pathetic enough to be fine with seeing kids bullied in school... just so long as they're Muslim, black, refugees, etc.

Gatling · 28-11-2018 8:27pm

Billy86 wrote: »

Threads like this always serve as a good reminder that some people are indeed pathetic enough to be fine with seeing kids bullied in school... just so long as they're Muslim, black, refugees, etc.

Unfortunately bullying happens in evy preschool, primary school , secondary ,third level ,and it the work place ,
And it doesn't discriminate against race ,Color ,creed ,age , sexual orientation

Unfortunately when we get amateur dramatics and faux all it does is make the snowflakes look like crybabies because of the poor child from where ever ,but will happily ignore it when the bullies aren't white or Irish , English

And it takes away from any real discussion on bullying and the effects and reason why it happens

weldoninhio · 28-11-2018 8:36pm

evolving tipperary wrote: »

It's called reading about a subject and then expanding that reading. Keeping up with the news. Being informed. Try it some time, it's quite enlighting.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/28/schoolboy-to-be-charged-over-huddersfield-attack-on-refugee-15

'Tasnime Akunjee, a solicitor representing the family, said they were considering moving away from the area and had received offers to be rehomed in Oxford.

He said the couple’s daughter, who attends the same school, had been bullied by another group of pupils. Last week someone forcibly removed the girl’s hijab. On Tuesday a girl was excluded from the school over the incident.

Akunjee said the family had contacted him and their local MP, Barry Sheerman, a month ago. “The family had concerns about their children and the environment their children were in at school. They weren’t sure how to engage assistance because of the language barrier. We were so concerned about these children that we contacted the school, council and the local police.”

The family came to Huddersfield two years ago after fleeing persecution under the Bashar al-Assad regime in Syria. They first went to Lebanon, where they lived for six years, and were later given safe passage to Britain by the UN before being resettled in 2016.'

Syrian civil war broke out 7 years ago. They’ve been out of Syria for eight years according to that. So before the war.

Which sort of puts the kaybosh on your emotive “How many kids have come from a war-torn society and land - where they've witnessed, up close and personal, the worst of war and human nature - to come to a 'civilised' country to be bullied?” nonsense

khaldrogo · 28-11-2018 8:42pm

Faugheen wrote:

Why are you getting outraged at the idea that people are outraged about a boy being waterboarded by a racist?

If you had actually seen a person being water boarded in person you would realize how embarrassing it is to call this water boarding.

28-11-2018 8:47pm

Billy86 wrote:

Threads like this always serve as a good reminder that some people are indeed pathetic enough to be fine with seeing kids bullied in school... just so long as they're Muslim, black, refugees, etc.

Nobody here whatsoever said that it is fine that kids are being bullied. Stop making things up.

evolving tipperary · 28-11-2018 8:53pm

weldoninhio wrote: »

Syrian civil war broke out 7 years ago. They’ve been out of Syria for eight years according to that. So before the war.

Which sort of puts the kaybosh on your emotive “How many kids have come from a war-torn society and land - where they've witnessed, up close and personal, the worst of war and human nature - to come to a 'civilised' country to be bullied?” nonsense

Yeah, war just breaks out one day. Nothing happens in the years leading up to a cause. Absolutely nothing. Just appears one day on an exact day and time...

Hasn't been a extremely difficult place to live in for decades...

weldoninhio · 28-11-2018 8:54pm

evolving tipperary wrote: »

Yeah, war just breaks out one day. Nothing happens in the years leading up to a cause. Absolutely nothing. Just appears one day on an exact day and time...

Hasn't been a extremely difficult place to live in for decades...

Want a hand with those goalposts??

evolving tipperary · 28-11-2018 8:55pm

weldoninhio wrote: »

Want a hand with those goalposts??

Go troll someone else! You'll get more traction!

evolving tipperary · 28-11-2018 8:57pm

Gatling wrote: »

Unfortunately bullying happens in evy preschool, primary school , secondary ,third level ,and it the work place ,
And it doesn't discriminate against race ,Color ,creed ,age , sexual orientation

Unfortunately when we get amateur dramatics and faux all it does is make the snowflakes look like crybabies because of the poor child from where ever ,but will happily ignore it when the bullies aren't white or Irish , English

And it takes away from any real discussion on bullying and the effects and reason why it happens

What amateur dramatics? What snowflakes?

weldoninhio · 28-11-2018 8:57pm

evolving tipperary wrote: »

Go troll someone else! You'll be get more traction!

You are the one making false emotive statements. Not me. No need for name calling when your falsehoods are pointed out.

evolving tipperary · 28-11-2018 8:59pm

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weldoninhio wrote: »

You are the one making false emotive statements. Not me. No need for name calling when your falsehoods are pointed out.

You haven't a clue what you're talking about.

Dates about a war...

Name calling! :rolleyes:

falsehoods

:pac:

martingriff · 28-11-2018 10:00pm

ZeroThreat wrote: »

At least people can have their say here, no matter whether you agree or not. Unlike other online media organs which usually close comments on anything remotely controversial.......https://www.thejournal.ie/syria-refugee-teen-uk-assault-video-4364636-Nov2018/

Thats due to it now going legal. The journal does that with every case regardless where it is. I agree it annoying as how could what someone says in Ireland go against a legal procedure in another country but it a way they do it to stop libel. They were probably threatened with legal action on something and rather then some kind of mods they went the nuclear route.

Defending The Journal how has my life descended to this.

In relation to above I think some people are putting to much on the GoFundME page to show some outrage and have a justification so they do not have to talk about the video and other are putting too much on trying to define how he was bullied to show just how outraged they are.

I am outraged he was bullied it does not make it any more of less serious due to his skin color or a GoFundMePage and I feel the same for any form of bullying that happens.

For those who ask why is there not a spotlight on those who are English or Irish or any other nationality. There have been a few mentioned here that got attention and threads on here. But if you are so outraged they have not been given the airing well you are on a social media site make a thread highlight it.

Finally for those who hate bad spelling and/or grammar I am sorry dyslexia is all i can say

martingriff · 28-11-2018 10:05pm

ZeroThreat wrote: »

Usually thejournal just says 'comments are closed for legal reasons' in relation to something that happens in the RoI. Normally anything that happens abroad has comments enabled whether someone has been charged or not. I'd say they just decided they didn't have the time or energy to moderate comments that such an article typically generates.

Nope it closed them for legal reason for cases outside of Ireland the comments for the El Chappo case is closed and all the Harvey Weinstein comments were closed

the_syco · 28-11-2018 10:21pm

Faugheen wrote: »

The **** was the point of this post?

That bullies pick on people different to themselves.

AllForIt · 28-11-2018 10:29pm

Despicable act no doubt whatsoever. Glad to hear the bully will be charged.

However I can't help but be a little cynical about this particular story making such national headlines.

I heard in UK media this week that there is a study being conducted into the rise of 'islamophobia' in the UK.

What a waste of money. The rise of islamophobia is primarily down to terrorist attacks such as the Manchester attacks which killed teenagers, and the uncovering of multiple Pakistani Muslim rape gangs. To think that one needs to conduct a study to figure this out is laughable, I'll answer the question for them for free. And of course the reasons I mentioned aren't the only reasons.

To create the notion that the rise of islamophobia is completely random and as a result of thoughtless hate is to give some legitimacy to the actions of Muslim terrorists etc, as if it's in some way the fault of indigenous UK citizens in what the terrorists do.

The issue here is BULLYING which no ever seem to wish to tackle either in schools or the workplace, not islamophobia.

Gimme A Pound · 28-11-2018 10:30pm

Gatling wrote: »

Unfortunately bullying happens in evy preschool, primary school , secondary ,third level ,and it the work place ,
And it doesn't discriminate against race ,Color ,creed ,age , sexual orientation

Unfortunately when we get amateur dramatics and faux all it does is make the snowflakes look like crybabies because of the poor child from where ever ,but will happily ignore it when the bullies aren't white or Irish , English

And it takes away from any real discussion on bullying and the effects and reason why it happens

Nobody ignores ANY case of bullying that they are made aware of via social media.
And just because bullying is always going on, how is that a reason to downplay it? How is that something to be blase about?

Gatling · 28-11-2018 10:35pm

Charleigh Tight Ferry wrote: »

Nobody ignores ANY case of bullying that they are made aware of via social media

No don't agree with you ,

Gimme A Pound · 28-11-2018 10:41pm

Gatling wrote: »

No don't agree with you ,

Every time there is a heartbreaking story shared on social media by a news outlet or well known person, of someone unable to defend themselves being bullied - no matter who they are - it goes viral and people get very emotional.

I can think immediately of examples of white adults being ridiculed and humiliated, which went viral and caused huge outcry. People would be even more affected by children, no matter what skin colour.

JJayoo · 28-11-2018 10:51pm

It makes no difference where the kid is from.
The Bully is almost twice the size of him.
The Bully is there with his friends
The victim doesn't fight back.
The victim already has his arm in a cast.

And the fact that this wasn't even a sudden attack the bully was being filmed as he walked towards the kid, this was planned and was his version of fun.

Imagine how many times that bully has done stuff to kids.

But the bully is absolutely fcuked now. He will never get away from this, his name will be linked to that clip for the rest of his life, and he will have a big target on his head.

The cameraman should also be named and shamed.

But on the topic of bullying, it can be very hard for a person to come forward either the victim or a bystander however if each school had a facility in which people would annoymousy send in videos of incidents it could really help.

evolving tipperary · 28-11-2018 10:56pm

The fund is up to 100,000 now which brings me no end of joy.

Apparently a Video of sister being bullied:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-46379548

Syrian boy bullied in Huddersfield

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